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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2121<br />
| date = March 8, 2019<br />
| title = Light Pollution<br />
| image = light_pollution.png<br />
| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by the DESTROYER OF SAGITTARIUS. Needs flushing out and reference to light pollution with regard to astronomy. Could use list of actual things that are no longer visible in the sky anywhere due to industrialization. Maybe a list of what any of these things could be reference to (The fake things). Please mention here why else this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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This comic shows how {{w|Light pollution|light pollution}} in cities affect what you can see from the night sky. The first three panels are real-life examples of what you could see from the sky inside a large city, in the suburbs and far away from night pollution. These panels roughly correlate on the {{w|Bortle Scale}} to 8-9 (city), 5-6 (suburbs) and 2-3 (remote area).<br />
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The last panel contrasts these for comedic effect with fake things in the sky that are not actually present in the night sky. "{{w|Celestial spheres|Crystal spheres}}" is an ancient theory about the heavens and what it was that held up the stars, before it was commonly accepted that space could be made of hard vacuum.<br />
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The title text starts off sounding like a legitimate statement about light pollution. It is common to remark that the vast majority of people never see things in the night sky that were commonly seen by our ancestors every night prior to industrialization, such as the {{w|Milky Way}} or now-obscure phenomena such as {{w|Zodiacal light}}, {{w|Airglow}} or {{w|Gegenschein}}. The title text then further adds to the humor of the last panel by describing non-existent features, many of which could be references to {{w|H. P. Lovecraft}}. He often refers to beasts the possible size that “The Destroyer of Sagittarius” would have to be. He also often speaks of insanity and color, connecting the two.<br />
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For non astronomers, {{w|Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius}} is one of the constellations of the zodiac and {{w|Sagittarius A*}} a black hole at the center of the {{w|Milky Way}} inside of that constellation.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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:[Four views of the night sky are shown among each other. The text on top reads:]<br />
:'''Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky'''<br />
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:[The first view shows only a few bright stars visible on a fairly light gray-brownish background. The inline text on the left top is:]<br />
:High Light Pollution<br />
:(Cities)<br />
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:[On the second view more stars are appearing and some faint blurry white clouds on a dark-gray background are visible.]<br />
:Moderate Light Pollution<br />
:(Suburbs)<br />
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:[A lot of stars, even partly colored, and a clear image of many clouds on a dark background are shown.]<br />
:Low Light Pollution<br />
:(Very remote areas)<br />
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:[The last image shows the same region as above but with even more exposed stars and clouds, the colors are also more explicit. A faint lattice of triangles overlaying the image to its full extent and three ghastly silhouettes of sailships are shown embedded in clouds. The text on the top left reads:]<br />
:No Light Pollution<br />
:(How the sky should look)<br />
:[Four arrows are pointing to some triangles:]<br />
:Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
:[Three arrows are indicating the sailships:]<br />
:Ships of the Sky King<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Astronomy]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=170810Talk:2121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T18:56:01Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.</p>
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Small error in this comic. It's not possible to tile a sphere with just hexagons. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/749264/covering-earth-with-hexagonal-map-tiles<br />
[[User:AlanKilian|AlanKilian]] ([[User talk:AlanKilian|talk]]) 16:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Six triangles form a hexagon - just an explanation for people with less mathematical or geometric knowledge. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::but a indefinite large group of triangles doesn't automatically transform to hexagons, since it could be overlapping hexagons, or hexagons with their interim spaces filled up by triangles?--[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 16:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::Look at that hexagons (consisting of six triangles), each fitting to the next, and you will understand that this is only possible in a plane but not in a sphere. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, but if the triangles are not actually equilateral then they could form a sphere. And if the sphere is big enough (I think solar-system-surrouding or bigger counts) then you probably wouldn't be able to see it with the naked eye. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 17:08, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::But can it form a [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1365:_Inflation basketball?] [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Your eyes are making the hexagons up. Some triangles would be left over if you tried to make every group of 6 triangles a hexagon. Triangle arrays like this are commonly used in computer graphics, as they are the closest approximation to a sphere: https://mft-dev.dk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/icosahedron_frame_sub3.gif [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.185|162.158.79.185]] 17:25, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Not really. On a plane, there are only three {{W|tesselation|tesselations}} made only of identical regular polygons: {{W|triangular tiling}}, {{W|square tiling}} or {{W|hexagonal tiling}}. But since a regular hexagon can be divided into six equilateral triangles, the tiling in the picture can be seen as both triangular and hexagonal. The leaving out you write about may have come from another tesselation which uses hexagons and triangles, the {{W|trihexagonal tiling}}. On a sphere, there's a completely different discussion as there's no tesselations, only approximations of them. {{unsigned|Malgond}}<br />
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Oh man where are the conspiracy nuts from a few weeks ago ;-) [[User:Cgrimes85|Cgrimes85]] ([[User talk:Cgrimes85|talk]]) 17:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Hey, I think this works like Beetlejuice. Shush. Don’t jinx it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, I know most of the discussion is focused on the lattice, but are the ships a reference to something? LOTR maybe? Also there’s nothing about the title text at all, and the (more probable than LOTR) Lovecraft reference, considering the mentions of insanity, cosmic horror, and color. (I believe the book was Cool Air?) [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I think it's notable that the world actually works this way. The sky is full of drones, satellites, {{w|Mesosphere#Exploration_and_uses|nearcraft}}, and we basically can't see them, but they can freely observe us, transmit things to us, and drop things on us. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.185|162.158.79.185]] 17:34, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I may be too nerdy, but my mind went to Spelljammer on this. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 18:44, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=1708012121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T17:39:52Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2121<br />
| date = March 8, 2019<br />
| title = Light Pollution<br />
| image = light_pollution.png<br />
| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by the DESTROYER OF SAGITTARIUS. Needs flushing out and reference to light pollution with regard to astronomy. Could use list of actual things that are no longer visible in the sky anywhere due to industrialization. Maybe a list of what any of these things could be reference to (The fake things). Please mention here why else this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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This comic shows how {{w|Light pollution|light pollution}} in cities affect what you can see from the night sky. The first three panels are real-life examples of what you could see from the sky inside a large city, in the suburbs and far away from night pollution.<br />
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The last panel contrasts these for comedic effect with fake things in the sky that are not actually present in the night sky.<br />
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The title text starts off sounding like a legitimate statement about light pollution. It is common for to remark that the vast majority of people never see things in the night sky that were commonly seen by our ancestors every night prior to industrialization, such as the {{w|Milky Way}} or now-obscure phenomena such as {{w|Zodiacal light}}, {{w|Airglow}} or {{w|Gegenschein}}. The title text then further adds to the humor of the last panel by describing non-existent features, many of which could be references to {{w|H. P. Lovecraft}}. He often refers to beasts the possible size that “The Destroyer of Sagittarius” would have to be. He also often speaks of insanity and color, connecting the two.<br />
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For non astronomers, {{w|Sagittarius (constellation)|Sagittarius}} is one of the constellations of the zodiac and {{w|Sagittarius A*}} a black hole at the center of the {{w|Milky Way}} inside of that constellation.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky<br />
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[Four panels showing roughly the same area of the night sky]<br />
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[Only a few bright starts visible on a fairly light gray-brownish background]<br />
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High Light Pollution<br />
(Cities)<br />
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[More stars and a faint image of the Milky Way on a dark-gray background]<br />
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Moderate Light Pollution<br />
(Suburbs)<br />
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[A lot of stars and partly coloured, clear image of the Milky Way on a dark background]<br />
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Low Light Pollution<br />
(Very remote areas)<br />
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[Same image as above but with a faint lattice of triangles overimposed on it and three ghastly silhouettes of sailships]<br />
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No Light Pollution<br />
(How the sky should look)<br />
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Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
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Ships of the Sky King<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Astronomy]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2117:_Differentiation_and_Integration&diff=1707892117: Differentiation and Integration2019-03-08T17:05:52Z<p>Dgbrt: Reverted edits by 172.69.50.52 (talk) to last revision by PeterMortensen</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2117<br />
| date = February 27, 2019<br />
| title = Differentiation and Integration<br />
| image = differentiation_and_integration.png<br />
| titletext = "Symbolic integration" is when you theatrically go through the motions of finding integrals, but the actual result you get doesn't matter because it's purely symbolic.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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This comic illustrates the old saying [https://mathoverflow.net/q/66377 "Differentiation is mechanics, integration is art."] It does so by providing a {{w|flowchart}} purporting to show the process of differentiation, and another for integration.<br />
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{{w|Derivative|Differentiation}} and {{w|Antiderivative|Integration}} are two major components of {{w|calculus}}. As many Calculus 2 students are painfully aware, integration is much more complicated than the differentiation it undoes.<br />
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However, Randall dramatically overstates this point here. After the first step of integration, Randall assumes that any integration can not be solved so simply, and then dives into a step named "????", suggesting that it is unknowable how to proceed. The rest of the flowchart is (we can assume deliberately) even harder to follow, and does not reach a conclusion. This is in contrast to the simple, straightforward flowchart for differentiation. The fact that the arrows in the bottom of the integration part leads to nowhere indicates that "Phone calls to mathematicians", "Oh no" and "Burn the evidence" are not final steps in the difficult journey. The flowchart could be extended by Randall to God-know-where extents.<br />
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It should be noted that Randall slightly undermines his point by providing four different methods, and an "etc", and a "No"-branch for attempting differentiation with no guidelines for selecting between them.<br />
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===Differentiation===<br />
'''{{w|Chain rule}}'''<br />
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For any <math> \frac{d}{dx}f(x)=f'(x)</math> and <math> \frac{d}{dx}g(x)=g'(x) </math>, it follows that <math> \frac{d}{dx}(f(g(x)))=f'(g(x))\cdot g'(x)</math>.<br />
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'''{{w|Power Rule}}'''<br />
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For any <math> f(x)=x^a </math>, it follows that <math> \frac{d}{dx}f(x)=a\cdot x^{a-1} </math>.<br />
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'''{{w|Quotient rule}}'''<br />
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For any <math> \frac{d}{dx}f(x)=f'(x)</math> and <math> \frac{d}{dx}g(x)=g'(x) </math>, it follows that <math> \frac{d}{dx} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)}=\frac{f'(x)\cdot g(x)-f(x)\cdot g'(x)}{(g(x))^2}</math> if <math>g(x)\ne 0</math>.<br />
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'''{{w|Product rule}}'''<br />
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For any <math> \frac{d}{dx}f(x)=f'(x)</math> and <math> \frac{d}{dx}g(x)=g'(x) </math>, it follows that <math> \frac{d}{dx}(f(x)\cdot g(x))=f'(x)\cdot g(x)+f(x)\cdot g'(x)</math>.<br />
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===Integration===<br />
'''{{w|Integration by parts}}'''<br />
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The "product rule" run backwards. Since <math>(uv)' = uv' + u'v</math>, it follows that by integrating both sides you get <math> uv = \int u dv + \int v du</math>, which is more commonly written as <math>\int u dv = uv - \int v du</math>. By finding appropriate values for functions <math>u, v</math> such that your problem is in the form <math>\int u dv</math>, your problem ''may'' be simplified. The catch is, there exists no algorithm for determining what functions they might possibly be, so this approach quickly devolves into a guessing game - this has been the topic of an earlier comic, [[1201: Integration by Parts]].<br />
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'''{{w|Integration by substitution|Substitution}}'''<br />
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The "chain rule" run backwards. Since <math> d(f(u)) = (df(u))du</math>, it follows that <math>f(u) = \int df(u) du</math>. By finding appropriate values for functions <math>f, u</math> such that your problem is in the form <math>\int df(u) du</math> your problem ''may'' be simplified.<br />
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'''{{w|Cauchy's integral formula|Cauchy's Formula}}'''<br />
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Cauchy's Integral formula is a result in complex analysis that relates the value of a contour integral in the complex plane to properties of the singularities in the interior of the contour. It is often used to compute integrals on the real line by extending the path of the integral from the real line into the complex plane to apply the formula, then proving that the integral from the parts of the contour not on the real line has value zero. <br />
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'''{{w|Partial_fraction_decomposition#Application_to_symbolic_integration|Partial Fractions}}'''<br />
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Partial fractions is a technique for breaking up a function that comprises one polynomial divided by another into a sum of functions comprising constants over the factors of the original denominator, which can easily be integrated into logarithms.<br />
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'''Install {{w|Mathematica}}'''<br />
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Mathematica is a modern technical computing system spanning most areas. One of its features is to compute mathematical functions. This step in the flowchart is to install and use Mathematica to do the integration for you. Here is a description about the [https://reference.wolfram.com/language/tutorial/IntegralsThatCanAndCannotBeDone.html intricacies of integration and how Mathematica handles those]. (It would be quicker to try [https://www.wolframalpha.com Wolfram Alpha] instead of installing Mathematica, which uses the same backend for mathematical calculations.)<br />
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'''{{w|Riemann integral|Riemann Integration}}'''<br />
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The Riemann integral is a definition of definite integration. <math>\sum_{i=0}^{n-1} f(t_i) \left(x_{i+1}-x_i\right).</math> Elementary textbooks on calculus sometimes present finding a definite integral as a process of approximating an area by strips of equal width and then taking the limit as the strips become narrower. Riemann integration removes the requirement that the strips have equal width, and so is a more flexible definition. However there are still many functions for which the Riemann integral doesn't converge, and consideration of these functions leads to the {{w|Lebesgue integration|Lebesgue integral}}. Riemann integration is not a method of calculus appropriate for finding the anti-derivative of an elementary function.<br />
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'''{{w|Stokes' Theorem}}'''<br />
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Stokes' theorem is a statement about the integration of differential forms on manifolds. <math>\int_{\partial \Omega}\omega=\int_\Omega d\omega\,.</math> It is invoked in science and engineering during control volume analysis (that is, to track the rate of change of a quantity within a control volume, it suffices to track the fluxes in and out of the control volume boundary), but is rarely used directly (and even when it is used directly, the functions that are most frequently used in science and engineering are well-behaved, like sinusoids and polynomials). <br />
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'''{{w|Risch Algorithm}}'''<br />
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The Risch algorithm is a notoriously complex procedure that, given a certain class of symbolic integrand, either finds a symbolic integral or proves that no elementary integral exists. (Technically it is only a semi-algorithm, and cannot produce an answer unless it can determine if a certain symbolic expression is {{w|Constant problem|equal to 0}} or not.) Many computer algebra systems have chosen to implement only the simpler Risch-Norman algorithm, which does not come with the same guarantee. A series of extensions to the Risch algorithm extend the class of allowable functions to include (at least) the error function and the logarithmic integral. A human would have to be pretty desperate to attempt this (presumably) by hand.<br />
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'''{{w|Bessel function}}'''<br />
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Bessel functions are the solution to the differential equation <math> x^2 \frac{dy^2}{dx^2}+x \frac{dy}{dx}+(x^2-n^2)*y=0</math>, where n is the order of Bessel function. Though they do show up in some engineering, physics, and abstract mathematics, in lower levels of calculus they are often a sign that the integration was not set up properly before someone put them into a symbolic algebra solver.<br />
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'''Phone calls to mathematicians'''<br />
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This step would indicate that the flowchart user, desperate from failed attempts to solve the problem, contacts some more skilled mathematicians by phone, and presumably asks them for help. The connected steps of "Oh no" and "Burn the evidence" may suggest the possibility that this interaction might not play out very well and could even get the caller in trouble.<br />
Specialists and renowned experts being bothered - not to their amusement - by strangers, often at highly inconvenient times or locations, is a common comedic trope, also previously utilized by xkcd (for example in [[163: Donald Knuth]]).<br />
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'''Burn the evidence'''<br />
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This phrase parodies a common trope in detective fiction, where characters burn notes, receipts, passports, etc. to maintain secrecy. This may refer to the burning of one's work to avoid the shame of being associated with such a badly failed attempt to solve the given integration problem. Alternatively, it could be an ironic hint to the fact that in order to find the integral, it may even be necessary to break the law or upset higher powers, so that the negative consequences of a persecution can only be avoided by destroying the evidence.<br />
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'''{{w|Symbolic integration}}'''<br />
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Symbolic algebra is the basic process of finding an antiderivative function (defined with symbols), as opposed to numerically integrating a function. The title text is a pun that defines the term not as integration that works with symbols, but rather as integration as a symbolic act, as if it were a component of a ritual. A symbolic act in a ritual is an act meant to evoke something else, such as burning a wooden figurine of a person to represent one’s hatred of that person. Alternatively, the reference could be seen as a joke that integration might as well be a symbol, like in a novel, because Randall can't get any meaningful results from his analysis.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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:[Two flow charts are shown.]<br />
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:[The first flow chart has four steps in simple order, one with multiple recommendations.]<br />
:DIFFERENTIATION<br />
:Start<br />
:Try applying<br />
::Chain Rule<br />
::Power Rule<br />
::Quotient Rule<br />
::Product Rule<br />
::Etc.<br />
:Done?<br />
::No [Arrow returns to "Try applying" step.]<br />
::Yes<br />
:Done!<br />
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[The second flow chart begins like the first, then descends into chaos.]<br />
:INTEGRATION<br />
:Start<br />
:Try applying<br />
::Integration by Parts<br />
::Substitution<br />
:Done?<br />
:Haha, Nope!<br />
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:[Chaos, Roughly from left to right, top to bottom, direction arrows not included.]<br />
::Cauchy's Formula<br />
::????<br />
::???!?<br />
::???<br />
::???<br />
::?<br />
::Partial Fractions<br />
::??<br />
::?<br />
::Install Mathematica<br />
::?<br />
::Riemann Integration<br />
::Stokes' Theorem<br />
::???<br />
::?<br />
::Risch Algorithm<br />
::???<br />
::[Sad face.]<br />
::?????<br />
::???<br />
::What the heck is a Bessel Function??<br />
::Phone calls to mathematicians<br />
::Oh No<br />
::Burn the Evidence<br />
::[More arrows pointing out of the image to suggest more steps.]<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Flowcharts]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&diff=1707882120: Brain Hemispheres2019-03-08T17:04:44Z<p>Dgbrt: Reverted edits by 162.158.106.30 (talk) to last revision by Dgbrt</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2120<br />
| date = March 6, 2019<br />
| title = Brain Hemispheres<br />
| image = brain_hemispheres.png<br />
| titletext = Neurologically speaking, the LEFT hand is actually the one at the end of the RIGHT arm.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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As a general rule, each cerebral hemisphere (half of the brain) innervates (feeds/supplies/controls) the contralateral (opposite side) portion of the body. So things on the left half of the body are controlled by the right side of the brain and vice-versa. As previously noted however, this is simply a rough approximation. Biology is complicated, and as with most biology "rules" there are exceptions.<br />
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A notable exception are the cranial nerves; some do not decussate (cross over) as would be predicted from the rule above and directly innervate the ipsilateral (same side) side (eg abducens CN6). And of course, many cranial nerves innervate both ipsilateral and contralateral sides. This phenomenon is often seen, when everything is working properly, in things like the pupillary reflex (when you shine a bright light in one eye, both eyes' pupils constrict)<br />
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While the motor and sensation aspects of nerve innervation have been relatively well-established from studies, experiments, and dissections, (mostly through knockout(what happens to function if I damage/remove this part of the brain?) or stimulation studies) there is probably always going to be an exception, as you might imagine. Any number of factors may cause deviation from the normal physiology: trauma, disease, congenital birth defects, brain plasticity, etc.<br />
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With less concrete aspects of human brain function, such as logic, emotion, language processing, and creativity, establishing which brain hemisphere has control is obviously more complicated. Because a lot of these are higher order functions (these are things you tend to learn, develop, and obtain as you grow into an adult from a neonate), establishing which hemisphere has control of which function are obviously more complicated. Due again to brain plasticity or other factors, different developing brains may grow to wire control of these functions differently. So while studies have established which hemisphere is more likely to be involved with which function (eg left with language processing), again mostly through knockout studies, these generalizations are not necessarily true for every individual.<br />
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Randall spoofs these by suggesting that the right brain instead controls the upper torso, while the left brain still controls the right side. The product of this partitioning in two dimensions gives four areas of the human body (upper left, upper right, lower left, lower right) and would eventually suggest that your left leg moves independently of your brain. To explain the areas of the body controlled by both halves of the brain, Randall declares those sections "disputed," echoing a note added on maps that must display a border which is part of a {{w|territorial dispute}}. This suggests that the halves of your brain fight for control of the region, and is also described similarly to two countries disputing territory. Alternatively, he states there would be cooperative shared control (= {{w|Dual control}}) like in an airplane, where the pilot and the copilot both can control the plane with their respective yoke or stick at any time. His (fun) theory would explain, why most people are more skilled with their hands than their feet and with their right side than their left.<br />
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The title text further confuses the aspects of this decussation. The fact{{Dubious}} that hands are an exception in neurology might be a confusion based to the common argument explaining the actual exceptions mentioned above, that a strictly divided control over body halfes would make coordinated tasks with both hands close to impossible.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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:[Cueball is shown with the right half of his brain (on the viewer's left) colored in orange and the left half (on the viewer's right) in iris blue. An iris blue box is overlaid over the right half of the body (on the viewer's left), and an orange box is overlaid over the top half. The boxes are overlapping in a greenish color on the upper right quarter of the body (on the viewer's left).]<br />
:'''Neuroscience Fact:'''<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the iris blue rectangle on top with the text above:]<br />
:The ''left'' half of the brain actually controls the ''right'' half of the body...<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the orange rectangle at the right, the text reads:]<br />
:...while the ''right'' half of the brain actually controls the ''top'' half of the body.<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the overlapping area (the top left body from the viewers perspective) with the text below:]<br />
:Disputed/dual control<br />
:[An arrow pointing to Cueball's left leg area (on the viewer's right), not highlighted by any color, and the text is:]<br />
:This leg is fully autonomous<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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This comic shows how {{w|Light pollution|light pollution}} in cities affect what you can see from the night sky. The first three panels are real-life examples of what you could see from the sky inside a large city, in the suburbs and far away from night pollution.<br />
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The last panel contrasts these for comedic effect with fake things in the sky that are not actually present in the night sky.<br />
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The title text further adds on to this by describing non-existent features.<br />
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Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky<br />
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[Four panels showing roughly the same area of the night sky]<br />
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[Only a few bright starts visible on a fairly light gray-brownish background]<br />
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High Light Pollution<br />
(Cities)<br />
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[More stars and a faint image of the Milky Way on a dark-gray background]<br />
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Moderate Light Pollution<br />
(Suburbs)<br />
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[A lot of stars and partly coloured, clear image of the Milky Way on a dark background]<br />
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Low Light Pollution<br />
(Very remote areas)<br />
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[Same image as above but with a faint lattice of triangles overimposed on it and three ghastly silhouettes of sailships]<br />
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No Light Pollution<br />
(How the sky should look)<br />
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Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
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Ships of the Sky King<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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| titletext = Neurologically speaking, the LEFT hand is actually the one at the end of the RIGHT arm.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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As a general rule, each cerebral hemisphere (half of the brain) innervates (feeds/supplies/controls) the contralateral (opposite side) portion of the body. So things on the left half of the body are controlled by the right side of the brain and vice-versa. As previously noted however, this is simply a rough approximation. Biology is complicated, and as with most biology "rules" there are exceptions.<br />
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A notable exception are the cranial nerves; some do not decussate (cross over) as would be predicted from the rule above and directly innervate the ipsilateral (same side) side (eg abducens CN6). And of course, many cranial nerves innervate both ipsilateral and contralateral sides. This phenomenon is often seen, when everything is working properly, in things like the pupillary reflex (when you shine a bright light in one eye, both eyes' pupils constrict)<br />
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While the motor and sensation aspects of nerve innervation have been relatively well-established from studies, experiments, and dissections, (mostly through knockout(what happens to function if I damage/remove this part of the brain?) or stimulation studies) there is probably always going to be an exception, as you might imagine. Any number of factors may cause deviation from the normal physiology: trauma, disease, congenital birth defects, brain plasticity, etc.<br />
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With less concrete aspects of human brain function, such as logic, emotion, language processing, and creativity, establishing which brain hemisphere has control is obviously more complicated. Because a lot of these are higher order functions (these are things you tend to learn, develop, and obtain as you grow into an adult from a neonate), establishing which hemisphere has control of which function are obviously more complicated. Due again to brain plasticity or other factors, different developing brains may grow to wire control of these functions differently. So while studies have established which hemisphere is more likely to be involved with which function (eg left with language processing), again mostly through knockout studies, these generalizations are not necessarily true for every individual.<br />
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Randall spoofs these by suggesting that the right brain instead controls the upper torso, while the left brain still controls the right side. The product of this partitioning in two dimensions gives four areas of the human body (upper left, upper right, lower left, lower right) and would eventually suggest that your left leg moves independently of your brain. To explain the areas of the body controlled by both halves of the brain, Randall declares those sections "disputed," echoing a note added on maps that must display a border which is part of a {{w|territorial dispute}}. This suggests that the halves of your brain fight for control of the region, and is also described similarly to two countries disputing territory. Alternatively, he states there would be cooperative shared control (= {{w|Dual control}}) like in an airplane, where the pilot and the copilot both can control the plane with their respective yoke or stick at any time. His (fun) theory would explain, why most people are more skilled with their hands than their feet and with their right side than their left.<br />
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The title text further confuses the aspects of this decussation. The fact{{Dubious}} that hands are an exception in neurology might be a confusion based to the common argument explaining the actual exceptions mentioned above, that a strictly divided control over body halfes would make coordinated tasks with both hands close to impossible.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
:[Cueball is shown with the right half of his brain (on the viewer's left) colored in orange and the left half (on the viewer's right) in iris blue. An iris blue box is overlaid over the right half of the body (on the viewer's left), and an orange box is overlaid over the top half. The boxes are overlapping in a greenish color on the upper right quarter of the body (on the viewer's left).]<br />
:'''Neuroscience Fact:'''<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the iris blue rectangle on top with the text above:]<br />
:The ''left'' half of the brain actually controls the ''right'' half of the body...<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the orange rectangle at the right, the text reads:]<br />
:...while the ''right'' half of the brain actually controls the ''top'' half of the body.<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the overlapping area (the top left body from the viewers perspective) with the text below:]<br />
:Disputed/dual control<br />
:[An arrow pointing to Cueball's left leg area (on the viewer's right), not highlighted by any color, and the text is:]<br />
:This leg is fully autonomous<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Biology]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1287:_Puzzle&diff=1707821287: Puzzle2019-03-08T16:48:46Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Transcript */</p>
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| date = November 6, 2013<br />
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| titletext = Prediction for Carlsen v. Anand: ...25. Qb8+ Nxb8 26. Rd8# f6 27. "...dude." Qf5 28. "The game is over, dude." Qxg5 29. Rxe8 0-1 30. "Dude, your move can't be '0-1'. Don't write that down." [Black flips board]<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
The game of {{w|Go (game)|go}} (also called Weiqi, Baduk or Igo) is usually played on the 19×19 intersections of a grid, but sometimes a faster, simpler version is played on the 9×9 intersections of a grid; which thus has 8×8 squares, as a chessboard, though they are not colored in an alternating pattern – {{w|White and Black in chess|introduced to chess in the 13th century}}. In the comic, white has chess pieces and plays against black, which uses go stones.<br />
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In chess, particularly in puzzles, the phrasing "White to move" indicates that it's the White player's turn; "White to play and win" indicates that it's White's turn and if White plays correctly, the next series of moves will result in an advantageous position or possibly outright win for White. The caption "White to continue insisting this is a chessboard" is a play on this traditional phrasing. The same kind of phrasing is also used in {{w|Tsumego|Go puzzles}}. In Go puzzles the objectives are often of a local or tactical character, such as "White to capture four black stones" or "White to live in the corner".<br />
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Two versions of the board were posted by Randall: both had white after e3, d4, Nf3, Nc3, but the first with an extra bishop at e4 (B@e4), the second after Bd2.<br />
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B@e4 in the first version of the board was perhaps intended to represent confusion in White's mind whether he was playing Go (placing a piece) or Chess (it's a chess piece) – as a 'placement' this move could have been first, and could explain the pawn at e3, with e4 already being blocked. Like [[1230: Polar/Cartesian]], this comic thrives on ambiguity; the two boards appear similar but are incompatible in practice, but either side could be seen as right.<br />
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It is unclear who has gone first. In Go it is traditional for black to go first, while in Chess it has been traditional for white to go first for about a century. Indeed, both players have made five moves, although the caption/"punchline" implies it is the start of white's sixth turn; though if black did go first, none of his/her pieces are in the 3-3 handicap positions marked on a 9×9 Go board.<br />
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The title text refers to the (at the time) upcoming {{w|World Chess Championship 2013|2013 World Chess Championship}} between Carlsen and Anand. {{w|Magnus Carlsen}} is a (at publishing of this comic) 23 year old Norwegian chess grandmaster. {{w|Viswanathan Anand}} is a (at publishing time) 44 year old Indian grandmaster. Both have been (and as of 2019 are) among the world top chess players.<br />
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The game transcript in the title text refers to the ending of the famous {{w|Morphy versus the Duke of Brunswick and Count Isouard|Opera Game}} between Paul Morphy and the Duke of Brunswick and Count Isouard. That game ends with 16. Qb8+ Nxb8 17. Rd8#. In the title text, Black continues to make moves as if he has not been checkmated, over White's protests. After White uses his rook to capture Black's king to emphasize the checkmate, Black defiantly writes "0-1" (the notation symbolizing a Black victory) on his scoresheet. When informed that his move cannot be to declare victory, he flips the board. "0-1" may also represent a position on a go board (first down on the top left corner) in [http://senseis.xmp.net/?Coordinates certain coordinates systems].<br />
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The game transcript is written in standard {{w|Algebraic notation (chess)|algebraic notation}}. The destination square is represented by a lowercase letter (a-h, on the x-axis) and a number (1-8, on the y-axis), with the bottom-left square being a1 and the top-right square being h8. The uppercase letters refer to the piece that is moving to that square (e.g., Q = Queen, K = King, N = Knight, R = Rook), so Qa1 would mean moving the Queen to the bottom-left square. The absence of an uppercase letter refers to a pawn's move (e.g., "f6" means moving a pawn to f6). If the move captures a piece, an "x" is inserted between the piece and the destination (e.g., Nxb8). Checks are indicated by +, and checkmate by #.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[A game board with 8×8 white squares and black borders, like a goboard or an all white chessboard, there are white chess pieces in starting position on the bottom after e3, d4, Nf3, Nc3, Bd2 and five black Go pieces on the vertices in the center of the board at d4 d5 c6 g4 g6.]<br />
:[Caption below the frame:]<br />
:White to continue insisting this is a chessboard<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
[[Category:Chess]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1272:_Shadowfacts&diff=1707811272: Shadowfacts2019-03-08T16:47:28Z<p>Dgbrt: Layout</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1272<br />
| date = October 02, 2013<br />
| title = Shadowfacts<br />
| image = shadowfacts.png<br />
| titletext ='Look to my coming on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the east.' 'And look to the west to see our shadows!'<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
This comic is a parody of {{w|J.R.R. Tolkien}}'s ''{{w|The Lord of the Rings}}''. The name of the horse, Shadowfacts, is a pun on "{{w|Shadowfax (Middle-earth)|Shadowfax}}", the horse {{w|Gandalf}} rides in the books. As the name "Shadowfacts" suggests, this horse interjects into conversations various facts about shadows. There is a possible deeper level to the pun, referring to the [http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/241756-cat-facts-text-trolling Cat Facts meme].<br />
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The three parts of a shadow are the {{w|umbra}}, {{w|penumbra}} and {{w|antumbra}}.<br />
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In the title text, Gandalf continues to speak, and is interrupted again by the horse with another fact about shadows. "Look to my coming on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the east." is what Gandalf said before the battle of Helm's Deep when he went to get reinforcements. The horse notes that if the sun is in the east, the shadows will be to the west of the objects that cast them.<br />
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A similar talking horse appears in [[936: Password Strength]].<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Gandalf sits on a horse, addressing three hobbits.]<br />
:Gandalf: This is Shadowfacts, lord of all horses, and he–<br />
:Shadowfacts: The outer part of a shadow is called the penumbra!<br />
:Gandalf: ''Shut up.''<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
*Both quotes spoken from Gandalf are close to the actual ones in the movies, but not directly.<br />
*The Quote from the comic was a reply to legolas instead of the hobbits: "Shadowfax. He's the lord of all horses and he's been my friend through many dangers"<br />
*The title text one in original is: "Look to my coming, at first light, on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the East"<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Puns]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2103:_Midcontinent_Rift_System&diff=170780Talk:2103: Midcontinent Rift System2019-03-08T16:42:33Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.</p>
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Needs an explanation of the rift system itself. What is it? When did it form? How did conservatives feel about it at the time?<br />
(It’s definitely not a reference to Palladium Rifts, which would be a whole different thing!)<br />
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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If Black Hat runs, I vote for him. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.35|141.101.104.35]] 15:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:--If Black Hat runs, we all vote for him. Even if we don't vote...--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.190|162.158.38.190]] 00:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Has anyone else thought of all the new beach front property that would be created? Lex Luthor would be proud. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.166|108.162.245.166]] 15:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I have always thought the US ought to have a large shallow inland sea.<br />
:[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:38, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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“''It is unclear why would anyone vote for such a thing, but people directly affected (the Midwest) are likely to vote against Black Hat.''”<br />
:In the interests of accuracy, it should be noted that 2016 showed that it being unclear why anyone would vote for a thing doesn’t stop them from doing so, eagerly. Even when they are are going to be directly affected very adversely. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.19|162.158.107.19]] 18:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Actually we ended up with a large shallow outlandish president instead. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.42|162.158.106.42]] 18:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The reason why people vote to abandon European Union in BRexit is obvious: they think that institutions of European Union would create laws, decisions etc which would hurt them even worse than BRexit. Now, you may not agree with this, but you can’t say it’s completely unfathomable. – [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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There is an North American Midcontinent Rift as described at the start of the comic. See for example https://eos.org/features/new-insights-into-north-americas-midcontinent-rift or the Wikipedia page about it. Someone much more knowledgeable about geology than I am probably ought to update the explanation. [[User:D Gary Grady|D Gary Grady]] ([[User talk:D Gary Grady|talk]]) 02:39, 26 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I was thinking the giant crowbar is just an illustration trick, and it would be likely done with explosives or something. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.131|108.162.212.131]] 12:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The crowbar would work, provided it was big enough and one had been able to resolve Archimedes' dilemma — Δώσε μου μια θέση να σταθώ, και θα μετακινήσω τη γη.[[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 09:10, 27 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Hmm ... I guess you'd want your fulcrum and standing position to be affixed to the half of the earth that you want to stay put relative to you. You could probably find a fulcrum on the earth. You're likeliy in a space suit with a strong tether. You'd have to some how get the end of the crowbar deep inside the rock under the soil, or you'd just dig a trench. I'm suspecting it would have to be _really_ deep to actually split the continent and not just knock some huge rock chunks out like when blasting is done to reshape the landscape. You'd then have to travel far enough in outer space in order to move the rock with enough significance to produce the size of rift desired, and I don't expect things to get too much easier as the rock breaks because you are almost trying to shift entire tectonic plates. I'm thinking you'd run into major issues traveling far enough to push the crowbar, but this could be resolvable with machines. A remaining issue would be placing the crowbar deep enough to actually shift a plate. We've dug incredibly deep holes, but I'm not sure quite _that_ deep. The final issue is that a material would be needed that is strong enough to withstand the inner forces that would be required to shift an entire tectonic plate. The lever would have to be incredibly thick in order to withstand all the strain involved with the relatively-weak metals we have. At that point it would be so heavy and wide that countering its friction could be a monumental feat. I think that leverage is probably one tool for this job, but that other creative tools would need to be combined with it to actually succeed. I don't believe Archimedes! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.47|162.158.79.47]] 12:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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As a Cascadian Separatist, I'm all for this plan. Near as I can tell, the only thing the east coast does for the west coast is spend money. [[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:00, 26 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Should mention that it's also known as the Keweenawan Rift, pronounced QAnon Rift. {{unsigned ip|141.101.107.234}}<br />
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Should mention that "finish the job" is a very campaign-like statement. Nathan B-A. 3/7/2019 9:35pm EST {{unsigned ip|172.68.54.34}}</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&diff=170778Talk:2120: Brain Hemispheres2019-03-08T16:39:11Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.</p>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_hemisphere#Hemisphere_lateralization<br />
If the left side controls the top half of the body, wouldn't that mean it also controls the right half? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.248|108.162.241.248]] 20:04, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: It is uncontroversial that many senses and motoric functions are swapped between the right and left side. The anatomy of the nerve swaps can also be shown. But it is still under discussion, why evolution led to this swap (source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contralateral_brain Contralateral brain] and the even better organized German version [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontralateralit%C3%A4t_des_Vorderhirns Kontralateralität des Vorderhirns]) Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.46|172.68.110.46]] 08:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: I'm referring exclusively to the hypothetical model posed by the comic; rather than the reality.<br />
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I don't think the sentence "all 3 claims are false" is accurate. I think the claim that the right side of your brain controls the left side of your body is accurate. It says so on the Wikipedia article mentioned and in several other sources. What the Wikipedia article disputes is whether or not "higher-level" functions are partitioned to one side of the brain. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.42.64|172.69.42.64]] 20:29, 6 March 2019 (UTC) Harrison<br />
: With regard to the retina, the right half of the brain processes what the right half of each retina receives, and the left half processes what the left half of each retina receives (see e.g. [https://nba.uth.tmc.edu/neuroscience/m/s2/chapter15.html optic nerve]), but because our retina is behind the focal point of our lens so all the lightbeams cross and images hit the back of the eyeball upside-down and backwards, that means the halves of our brain process the opposite halves of what we see. But it's the same side of our body! I stopped learning neuroscience after we got to the optic nerve ;p [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.95|108.162.221.95]] 21:48, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
: You must've stopped in the middle of the lesson, because the optic nerves split so that both brain halves get a copy of each eye. Your own link points it out in the figure as the "Optic chiasm".--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 13:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: If you look closer, you can see how the left half of each eye (retina) goes only to the left half of the brain, and same for the right, even though both eyes do go to both sides. The split is by what is seen, not which eye sees it, which specially maps to the left side or right side of the eyeball. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.185|162.158.79.185]] 19:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I think the "right side of your brain controls the left side of your body" is NOT accurate, it's just closer to truth than the reverse. Some parts of perception and motor control are divided that way, but unless you have corpus callosotomy the high-level control is centralized and/or distributed regardless the side. Would be hard to synchronize both hands if not. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 02:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Having survived an ischemic stroke on the left side of my brain, which temporarily paralyzed the right side of my body, this comic speaks to me like none other.<br />
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Is it possible that the title text is a reference to the whole "magnetic north is actually south" thing? {{unsigned ip|162.158.78.208}}<br />
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Completely rewrote the explanation. There are two key phrases that were removed with the following justifications:<br />
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'''"left arm and left leg, and vice versa for the left half of the brain, and competing theories such as [https://arxiv.org/pdf/1003.1872.pdf these] [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02972358 two] attempt to explain why this is the case."<br />
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Those are not competing theories. It is the abandonment of one old theory in favor of a one that is better supported with evidence! It's like saying "There are competing theories of what an atom is actually made out of. One says that they are the smallest indivisible part of all matter. Another says that they are like plum-puddings with with a positive charge particle studded with negative charge corpsucles. And the last theory of what an atom is is a core particle with positive charge, made of many many smaller parts, surrounded by an probability/statistical cloud of negative particles which can act as both particles and waves and cannot have their speed and location determined at the same time.<br />
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... And if you think these are all "competing" and equally valid theories of what an atom is... I can not help you. Please... I don't know. Take a class or read a textbook or something. Good luck. May God have mercy on you.<br />
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'''Similarly, many people incorrectly argue that different parts of the brain control logic and emotion, due to the importance of the [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393211000285?via%3Dihub left] brain for language processing.<br />
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Removed and replaced it with a better explanation. Not technically "incorrectly argue". There is basis for which the arguments are founded.<br />
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Small error in this comic. It's not possible to tile a sphere with just hexagons. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/749264/covering-earth-with-hexagonal-map-tiles<br />
[[User:AlanKilian|AlanKilian]] ([[User talk:AlanKilian|talk]]) 16:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Six triangles form a hexagon - just an explanation for people with less mathematical or geometric knowledge. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::but a indefinite large group of triangles doesn't automatically transform to hexagons, since it could be overlapping hexagons, or hexagons with their interim spaces filled up by triangles?--[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 16:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::Look at that hexagons (consisting of six triangles), each fitting to the next, and you will understand that this is only possible in a plane but not in a sphere. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Dgbrt&diff=170776User talk:Dgbrt2019-03-08T16:32:55Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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== Create comic page in lieu of DgbrtBOT ==<br />
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I could see [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1969:_Not_Available&action=history here] that the bot seemed to have failed this time (or did RamenChef fail to wait long enough?) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Ah sorry, saw your comment in the [[Talk:1969: Not Available|Discussion]] now. Great if it has been fixed. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 20:47, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== ReCAPTCHA ==<br />
ReCAPTCHA v1 has expired, and since no one replied on the admin forum, I asked Kynde, and he told me to come to you. So can you upgrade it to v2? Thanks. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:05, 9 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]], this is bad. Also email notification doesn't work since a long time. All admins are nonexistent since months and I don't have access the the server. I will check what I can do with the BOT account. But there is not much hope. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 15:00, 9 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Oh... ok. But if I remember correctly, I think one of the admins (I think Jeff?) has a twitter account, but I don't have one and I can't ask on twitter. Could you like contact him that way? And maybe tell him to add a few admins to deal with problems like this? Thanks! [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 10:18, 11 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]], I don't have a twitter account too, but I will sign in when things go worse. And this will happen in the future when all admins are still absent because:<br />
:::*The next invoice for the web-service at Cloudflare must be paid.<br />
:::*The name registration at namecheap.com will expire on 2018-08-10.<br />
:::And it seems that there is no advertising here on the left. So we definitely need new admins here to address these and other issues. I would apply for this, but not alone. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Hello Dgbrt, I saw your message both here and on Wikipedia. Messaging me on my talk page is enough, I'll see it in my feed reader. Unfortunately, I can't do anything about recaptcha as I don't have ssh access to the server. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for your reply [[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]]. You don't have ssh access but as an Administrator you are maybe able to send an email to the relevant persons. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Unfortunately, I don't have [[User:Jeff|Jeff]]'s email address either. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:47, 12 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I'm sorry Dgbt (and all my other friendly editors/helpers!) <br />
Let me know what needs to be done and I'll work through it. I'm going to try to be much more proactive and logged in. It's been a busy few months. Please accept my apologies.<br />
The main complication with reCaptcha is that to upgrade to use ReCaptchaNoCaptcha, I'd have to upgrade the wiki. I'm not opposed, it is just a larger work effort than I thought! We are also quite a bit behind! --[[User:Jeff|<b><font color="orange">Jeff</font></b>]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A slight technical problem ==<br />
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The image size for comics is a bit off, the zoom is weird and there's some space to the right of the screen... Not sure what to do about it, but as an admin now (congratulations, by the way!) you should be able to deal with it. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hi [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]], what is weird? Please give an example of what's wrong and how it should be. BTW: To be an admin just means more work ;) --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 13:20, 4 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::It seems that there's only one problem left, rather than the three I mentioned before, but it's still a problem. For example, normally pages should be like this, where there's a sidebar to the left, and the rest is the page you're viewing. But now for comic explanations, there's an empty sidebar on the right side of the screen that shouldn't be there, and the page itself has been squeezed so now it only takes up about 60% of the screen's width. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 01:24, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Sorry for the delay, but it should be fixed now. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:38, 10 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unicode issues with the Bot ==<br />
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Hi, your bot doesn't handle UTF-8 in the alt-text well, as seen on today's comic [[2038]] :P This is a known problem with the xkcd api, which double-utf-8-encodes everything. I believe I've read your bot is programmed in Perl, so I may be able to help fix this. There is a module on CPAN to fix this automagically, [https://metacpan.org/pod/Encode::DoubleEncodedUTF8 Encode::DoubleEncodedUTF8] [[User:Gir|//gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 13:23, 27 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:'''E''': I've sent you a PR; https://github.com/dgbrt/explainXKCD_update/pull/3 [[User:Gir|//gir.st/]] ([[User talk:Gir|talk]]) 13:44, 27 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I was replying at the same time:<br />
:Thanks, you can find the GitHub link here: [[User:DgbrtBOT]]. The latest changes are a little bit ugly because I've had to find a fast solution on the forced https connection. Nonetheless the unicode issue is well known, until now I simply was too lazy. And reading the warnings at the DoubleEncodedUTF8 module tells me it should be solved in a better way.<br />
:I'm not sure, but my CentOS environment looks good:<br />
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:The Perl script already has <code>binmode STDOUT, ':utf8';</code> which was needed so maybe the same for <code>STDIN</code> could help. Any ideas? I have a Wiki at my PC for testing. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 14:26, 27 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
The problem is solved and the script successfully tested. Thanks for the help. And if Randall reads this: You probably can fool the BOT by using double encoded UTF at the comic name. But I believe the corresponding image URI wouldn't work. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 14:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Signature==<br />
Oops, sorry for forgetting my signature in my comment on "1047: Approximations", and thank you for adding it. [[User:Redbelly98|Redbelly98]] ([[User talk:Redbelly98|talk]]) 01:27, 4 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're welcome but there is absolutely no need to apologize. Errare humanum est. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 14:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Elections ==<br />
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Regarding your new [[:Category:Elections|Category:Elections]]...<br />
<br>Is it comics like this you wish to include? [[1130: Poll Watching]]? Guess anything Nate Silver is about it?<br />
<br>Just added [[500: Election]]... question is if election category is to be a subset of politics and that some politic comics that are "only" about election should then not also be directly in politic category? Sometimes there is more to it than election, but not really in the election comic for instance --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for your work. I've written "...in politics or elsewhere" because I think it may belong not only to politics. "1130: Poll Watching" definitely belongs to this category, it's even politics. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 12:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanx. ==<br />
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Thanx for the tweeking and the signing of my entry in 2066.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 21:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Purge? ==<br />
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On the main page, there's a line below the Latest Comic block that states "Is this out of date? Clicking here will fix that."<br />
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This link contains an action parameter value of "purge" in the URL. Do you know what this actually does? Is it somehow related to the caching system, or does it just force the main page to recheck the latest comic number?<br />
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Just curious, as I thought it might be useful for refreshing the cache when investigating an issue like an updated image that isn't being shown immediately. Thanks for any insight! (Oops, forgot to sign my edit!) [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 17:58, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Purging affects only the cache at this Wiki but not at Cloudflare. A purged page here will produce a new hash and thus also the Cloudflare cache will be expired. You can do this at every page here by adding "?action=purge" to the end of the URL; or if there is already a parameter with a question mark it should be "&action=purge". Nonetheless, editing a page and changing only one single character will have the same effect.<br />
:For pictures this is different because there is a page for the image:<br />
:*<nowiki>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:reminders.png</nowiki><br />
:and the image itself:<br />
:*<nowiki>https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/2/2c/reminders.png</nowiki><br />
:You can purge the first link because it's rendered through the PHP engine but the second link is just a static image and the Cloudflare cache assumes that this doesn't change often. This helps to keep the traffic at the Wiki server much lower. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 18:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Awesome and thorough answer! I appreciate you taking the time to explain it so well. [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 18:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==2003: Presidential_Succession==<br />
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In the explanation for [[2003: Presidential_Succession]], I just noticed that a number of users have updated the "List of specific individuals" section based on events since the comic was published, even though the section heading states that the list is as of the date the comic was published. Specifically, someone removed Serena Williams from the list because of a loss in July 2018, someone removed a whole section on the Royal family (which might be appropriate, but I don't know for sure), and several users changed a number of government people as a result of election results in November.<br />
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I was going to try to revert each of the changes back to the original list ,but there are also changes that are probably appropriate in other areas of the explanation. Do you know of a way to revert only those changes that were not appropriate, while retaining others that are appropriate? [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 15:46, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I decided to just manually revert each change made that was not appropriate, so you can disregard my question. I also added '''bold''' highlighting to the text in the opening paragraph that the list is as of the date of the comic to let people know that they should not update the names based on later events. One of the edits was to remove members of the royal family from the list. I left those names off of the updated list, as that makes sense to me. [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 17:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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::Many thanks for your work. The explanation always belongs to the date when the comic was published. Any further developments may be mentioned by that manner, but in general that's trivia because it doesn't explain the comic itself in it's context. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==1732: Earth_Temperature_Timeline==<br />
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Ok, hate to bug you again, but I have an odd question about [[1732:_Earth_Temperature_Timeline]] and its comic image, which is 740 × 14,889 in size.<br />
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This past week, when I viewed this comic, the image was not displaying, and it wouldn't display even when I clicked on the image file link on the image page (the thumbnail was OK though). I was getting what I thought was a server error instead, and the problem was clearly not due to something in the explanation page. I thought maybe something was wrong with the image file, but I was able to download it and open it in my local image viewer program. I was considering what I might be able to do to resolve the issue, but not knowing why it wasn't opening, I put it off...<br />
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However, now it's working fine again on the comic page, and I'm not sure what to make of the previous problem.<br />
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Have you seen similar issues like this in the past? Any thoughts on what might have caused it? I considered whether it might be helpful to actually split the image into separate slices and add them to the comic with some slider effect to view just a slice at a time, but I thought that might be too much effort for a wiki environment. Any thoughts? [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 05:28, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Please copy and paste the server error message or do a screen shot. But maybe it was just a local problem with your browser. Other comic images still did work? And click on the navigation title to see the original at the xkcd site. It also has the huge image directly embedded, thus I think we also should do so. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 17:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection from antisemitic troll ==<br />
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Hi, good thing to short-term protect the new pages. However at the same time someone with the account truth revealer has registered... also still on other posts back and forth editing (with antisemitic content from IP-users) happens: https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&curid=21799&diff=170762&oldid=170760 is it possible to also block for stuff like that? like slowing down the capabilities to do multiple edits for IP-users? --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 16:22, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:This is a bad solution because many - sometimes even most - editors are just IPs. This action today is just a signal to that vandal. Further older discussions are here: [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Admin_requests#SOON_THE_TRUTH_WILL_BE_REVEALED|Admin requests at the Community portal]]. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:32, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170772Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-08T16:23:12Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.</p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::You are correct. Clarke has always insisted that the letter-shift from IBM was coincidence and that he would've picked a different name had they known at the time. HAL has always stood for "Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer". ({{w|HAL 9000#Origin of name|source}}). [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 13:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I assume that inside your phone camera there's a "retina" chip in the same dimensions as your screen, so if your phone is upright (portrait) then the picture is portrait shape too. But, sure, they could make the camera rotate inside the phone... that would work for switching between selfie / other people modes, too. But no, then your selfies would be upside down... or... can I get back to you? :-) Robert Carnegie rja.carnegie@excite.com [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.200|162.158.155.200]] 11:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Can you do me a favour and stop censoring my edits? If your position has any merit (it doesn't), you could defeat me in debate (you can't). {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Fuck you, shill. Soon the truth will be revealed, whether you want it to be or not. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.240|162.158.106.240]] 21:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
Please no censorship on comments like this in a talk page unless it's really vandalism. I have reverted the two "deleted troll stuff" remarks back to the original. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:With the language being used, the comments were, indeed, vandalism. Re-removed them. {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.82}}<br />
::Bad language isn't vandalism - but your action editing comments written by others is vandalism. This is a talk page and everybody can say anything, but some nonsense like this require a proper reply. This is not the explanation page. And further more deleting comments gives the writer an argument about censorship which in this case would be correct. Do you want that writer having a correct argument?<br />
::BTW: Please do not forget to sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Table==<br />
may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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wow this circle is sure disliked alot considering randall says it solves the aspect ratio problem. if it's a trust issue then what happens in the case that two people hold a conversation via circular televideophones? ocæon 22:14, 6 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
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Maybe Randal and someone he knows have those Alexa video things that are circular and people talk out of... [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 22:32, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Randalls favorite video orientation ==<br />
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What makes people think he likes the horizontal orientation more? Looking at the comic it seems to me he likes the vertical orientation more. --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.87|172.69.54.87]] 10:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:the pro for vertical suggests it has reached a tipping point for widespread social acceptance, but whether it's pro status is an assertion or a path of least resistance remains unclear. it leaves us free to project on the issue. ocæon 22:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
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== Pro/Contra Vertical Video ==<br />
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The explanation so far seems to suggest that he thinks vertical video is obviously bad, and even compares it to the "Norm" type file comic. "claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident 'so we might as well just accept it'". However, I think this is not true at all, and the comic aligns much more to the comics which talked about common misconceptions (Frankenstein) or commonly used bad grammar ("could care less"). On many of these comics, he seems to have the opinion that the people who insist on the "correct" way should stop insisting and just accept the change. I think this one relates much more to those, and he is pro vertical video [which I'm not, so this is not an interpretation based on personal preference], instead of relating to the "Norm" comic where he obviously is just joking. The point of the comic is "stop fighting it". And nowhere in the comic he claims that horizontal video is obviously better, like the explanation says so far. {{unsigned ip|162.158.89.223}}</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=170766Talk:2121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:17:52Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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Small error in this comic. It's not possible to tile a sphere with just hexagons. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/749264/covering-earth-with-hexagonal-map-tiles<br />
[[User:AlanKilian|AlanKilian]] ([[User talk:AlanKilian|talk]]) 16:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Six triangles form a hexagon - just an explanation for people with less mathematical or geometric knowledge. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=170764Talk:2121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:14:54Z<p>Dgbrt: Protected "Talk:2121: Light Pollution": Spam ([Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (expires 17:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)) [Move=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (expires 17:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)))</p>
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Small error in this comic. It's not possible to tile a sphere with just hexagons. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/749264/covering-earth-with-hexagonal-map-tiles<br />
[[User:AlanKilian|AlanKilian]] ([[User talk:AlanKilian|talk]]) 16:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Those are triangles, retard. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.6|162.158.106.6]] 16:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=170761Talk:2121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:08:05Z<p>Dgbrt: Moron is an improper word against other editors.</p>
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Small error in this comic. It's not possible to tile a sphere with just hexagons. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/749264/covering-earth-with-hexagonal-map-tiles<br />
[[User:AlanKilian|AlanKilian]] ([[User talk:AlanKilian|talk]]) 16:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=1707592121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:04:57Z<p>Dgbrt: Protected "2121: Light Pollution": Vandalism ([Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (expires 17:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)) [Move=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (expires 17:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)))</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2121<br />
| date = March 8, 2019<br />
| title = Light Pollution<br />
| image = light_pollution.png<br />
| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by the DESTROYER OF SAGITTARIUS. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky<br />
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High Light Pollution<br />
(Cities)<br />
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Moderate Light Pollution<br />
(Suburbs)<br />
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Low Light Pollution<br />
(Very remote areas)<br />
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No Light Pollution<br />
(How the sky should look)<br />
Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
Ships of the Sky King<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Astronomy]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=1707572121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:04:19Z<p>Dgbrt: Undo revision 170755 by 162.158.106.6 (talk)</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2121<br />
| date = March 8, 2019<br />
| title = Light Pollution<br />
| image = light_pollution.png<br />
| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by the DESTROYER OF SAGITTARIUS. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky<br />
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High Light Pollution<br />
(Cities)<br />
<br />
Moderate Light Pollution<br />
(Suburbs)<br />
<br />
Low Light Pollution<br />
(Very remote areas)<br />
<br />
No Light Pollution<br />
(How the sky should look)<br />
Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
Ships of the Sky King<br />
<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Astronomy]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=1707562121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:03:52Z<p>Dgbrt: +Category:Comics with color; +Category:Astronomy using HotCat</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2121<br />
| date = March 8, 2019<br />
| title = Light Pollution<br />
| image = light_pollution.png<br />
| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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This comic is about light pollution, which is a mechanism by which artificial light (such as light produced by cities) diffuses through the atmosphere and occludes the stars.<br />
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This mechanism does work on its own, but is significantly amplified by satellites, a mission by the Zionist conspiracy to prevent people from being able to properly interface with the stars and natural world.<br />
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(Soon the truth will be revealed.)<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky<br />
<br />
High Light Pollution<br />
(Cities)<br />
<br />
Moderate Light Pollution<br />
(Suburbs)<br />
<br />
Low Light Pollution<br />
(Very remote areas)<br />
<br />
No Light Pollution<br />
(How the sky should look)<br />
Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
Ships of the Sky King<br />
<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Astronomy]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2121:_Light_Pollution&diff=1707532121: Light Pollution2019-03-08T16:01:39Z<p>Dgbrt: Vandalism</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2121<br />
| date = March 8, 2019<br />
| title = Light Pollution<br />
| image = light_pollution.png<br />
| titletext = It's so sad how almost no one alive today can remember seeing the galactic rainbow, the insanity nebula, or the skull and glowing eyes of the Destroyer of Sagittarius.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
<br />
Light Pollution and the Disappearing Night Sky<br />
<br />
High Light Pollution<br />
(Cities)<br />
<br />
Moderate Light Pollution<br />
(Suburbs)<br />
<br />
Low Light Pollution<br />
(Very remote areas)<br />
<br />
No Light Pollution<br />
(How the sky should look)<br />
Lattice of the crystal spheres<br />
Ships of the Sky King<br />
<br />
{{comic discussion}}</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&diff=1707082120: Brain Hemispheres2019-03-07T20:44:53Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Explanation */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2120<br />
| date = March 6, 2019<br />
| title = Brain Hemispheres<br />
| image = brain_hemispheres.png<br />
| titletext = Neurologically speaking, the LEFT hand is actually the one at the end of the RIGHT arm.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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It is thought that the right half of the brain controls the left arm and left leg, and vice versa for the left half of the brain, and competing theories such as [https://arxiv.org/pdf/1003.1872.pdf these] [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02972358 two] attempt to explain why this is the case. Similarly, many people incorrectly argue that different parts of the brain control logic and emotion, due to the importance of the [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393211000285?via%3Dihub left] brain for language processing. Randall spoofs these by suggesting that the right brain instead controls the upper torso. This would suggest that your left leg moves independently of your brain. To explain the areas of the body controlled by both halves of the brain, Randall declares those sections "disputed," echoing a note added on maps that must display a border which is part of a {{w|territorial dispute}}. This suggests that the halves of your brain fight for control of the region, and is also described similarly to two countries disputing territory. Alternatively, there would be cooperative shared control (= dual control).<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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:[Cueball is shown with the right half of his brain (on the viewer's left) colored in orange and the left half (on the viewer's right) in iris blue. An iris blue box is overlaid over the right half of the body (on the viewer's left), and an orange box is overlaid over the top half. The boxes are overlapping in a greenish color on the upper right quarter of the body (on the viewer's left).]<br />
:'''Neuroscience Fact:'''<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the iris blue rectangle on top with the text above:]<br />
:The ''left'' half of the brain actually controls the ''right'' half of the body...<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the orange rectangle at the right, the text reads:]<br />
:...while the ''right'' half of the brain actually controls the ''top'' half of the body.<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the overlapping area (the top left body from the viewers perspective) with the text below:]<br />
:Disputed/dual control<br />
:[An arrow pointing to Cueball's left leg area (on the viewer's right), not highlighted by any color, and the text is:]<br />
:This leg is fully autonomous<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Biology]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&diff=1707072120: Brain Hemispheres2019-03-07T20:40:18Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Transcript */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2120<br />
| date = March 6, 2019<br />
| title = Brain Hemispheres<br />
| image = brain_hemispheres.png<br />
| titletext = Neurologically speaking, the LEFT hand is actually the one at the end of the RIGHT arm.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by an AUTONOMOUS LEG and a CHICKEN. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
It is thought that the right half of the brain controls the left arm and left leg, and vice versa for the left half of the brain, and competing theories such as [https://arxiv.org/pdf/1003.1872.pdf these] [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02972358 two] attempt to explain why this is the case. Similarly, many people incorrectly argue that different parts of the brain control logic and emotion, due to the importance of the [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393211000285?via%3Dihub left] brain for language processing. Randall spoofs these by suggesting that the right brain instead controls the upper torso. This would suggest that your left leg moves independently of your brain. To explain the areas of the body controlled by both halves of the brain, Randall declares those sections "disputed," echoing a note added on maps that must display a border which is part of a {{w|territorial dispute}}. This suggests that the halves of your brain fight for control of the region, and is also described similarly to two countries disputing territory. Alternatively, there would be cooperative shared control (= dual control).<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
:[Cueball is shown with the right half of his brain (on the viewer's left) colored in orange and the left half (on the viewer's right) in iris blue. An iris blue box is overlaid over the right half of the body (on the viewer's left), and an orange box is overlaid over the top half. The boxes are overlapping in a greenish color on the upper right quarter of the body (on the viewer's left).]<br />
:'''Neuroscience Fact:'''<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the iris blue rectangle on top with the text above:]<br />
:The ''left'' half of the brain actually controls the ''right'' half of the body...<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the orange rectangle at the right, the text reads:]<br />
:...while the ''right'' half of the brain actually controls the ''top'' half of the body.<br />
:[An arrow pointing to the overlapping area (the top left body from the viewers perspective) with the text below:]<br />
:Disputed/dual control<br />
:[An arrow pointing to Cueball's left leg area (on the viewer's right), not highlighted by any color, and the text is:]<br />
:This leg is fully autonomous<br />
<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Biology]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=743:_Infrastructures&diff=170705743: Infrastructures2019-03-07T20:12:47Z<p>Dgbrt: The trivia is below the transcript.</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 743<br />
| date = May 21, 2010<br />
| title = Infrastructures<br />
| image = infrastructures.png<br />
| titletext = The heartfelt tune it plays is CC licensed, and you can get it from my seed on JoinDiaspora.net whenever that project gets going.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
[[Cueball]] has sent an essay to his bearded friend (possibly a caricature of {{w|Richard Stallman}}) who is an advocate of open-source software. While the essay itself was good, his friend was worried because the essay was in the {{w|Doc (computing)|.doc}} format, the {{w|Proprietary Software|proprietary format}} that old versions of {{w|Microsoft Word}} used. The friend advises Cueball to use a format based on an open standard, possibly a format like ODF, ODT, ODS, ODP, or OpenOffice XML.<br />
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Cueball, who does not appreciate his friend contradicting him, accuses his friend of pedantically stirring up trouble instead of simply caring that the software works (which is what most regular users would be concerned about). Given that it can be a challenge to move from a familiar proprietary application to an open-source rival which may lack compatibility, features, support and popularity, Cueball's stance is not entirely unjustified.<br />
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The bearded guy tries to explain that he is just concerned about the current proprietary software infrastructure that forces users to use software in a specific way, penalizing them for sharing the software or even preventing looking at the source code in order to learn what the program actually does or how it works. Cueball, however, isn't buying it, and accuses his friend of having [http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html an arrogance that crowds out his perspective], while also claiming that he is {{w|Autism|autistic}} - an epithet often aimed, particularly by denizens of online forums and imageboards, at people who have an intense fixation on seemingly trivial things.<br />
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Seven years later, Cueball runs to the friend, having become alarmed at Facebook's immense control and dubious policies about the personal information it collects. Since this is exactly the kind of situation the bearded guy was warning against, he sarcastically retorts by producing "the world's tiniest open-source violin". This is a twist on "{{tvtropes|WorldsSmallestViolin|playing the world's smallest violin}}", a gesture used to convey sarcastic pity at someone else's misfortune. Interestingly, the guy does actually appear to possess the physical instrument itself, which is uncommon; usually it's just a quip or gesture. This implies that the bearded guy has been carrying around the violin for this eventuality, or perhaps he uses this sarcastic expression often enough to warrant it.<br />
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The title text references the following pieces of infrastructure that are compatible with the "free software" ideology:<br />
* [http://www.creativecommons.org Creative Commons licenses] (CC licensed) use existing copyright law to permit someone to share a creative work anywhere so long as the sharer attributes credit to the creator of the work. The particular CC license chosen may also allow for modification, derivative works, and/or commercial usage. The fellow's phrase "you can get it" in the title text is ambiguous: is he offering to share the code for the violin, or the tune that the violin plays? But since CC licenses are not used for software, we can assume "it" refers to the tune: either an audio recording of it, or perhaps source material from which to make modified versions.<br />
* [http://joindiaspora.com joindiaspora.com] (formerly joindiaspora.net) is the central host of {{w|Diaspora (social network)| Diaspora*}}, an open-source alternative to Facebook which puts the user in control of how their information is used. Of course this sort of use of Diaspora would eliminate Cueball's concern over how Facebook handled his information.<br />
* a Diaspora "seed" is a personal web server that interacts in a Diaspora "pod" of servers. It stores all of your information (such as the tune in this case) and shares it with your friends, in a way that respects your preferences around privacy, etc.<br />
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The problem with the lack of open source and Facebook is also the subject of [[1390: Research Ethics]].<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:2003:<br />
:[Cueball approaches a bearded fellow.]<br />
:Cueball: Did you get my essay?<br />
:Bearded Fellow: Yeah, it was good! But it was a .doc; You should really use a more open-<br />
:Cueball: Give it a ''rest'' already. Maybe we just want to live our lives and use software that ''works'', not get wrapped up in your stupid nerd turf wars.<br />
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:Bearded Fellow: I just want people to care about the infrastructures we're building and who-<br />
:Cueball: No, you just want to feel smugly superior. You have no sense of perspective and are probably autistic.<br />
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:2010:<br />
:Cueball: Oh my God! We handed control of our social world to Facebook and they're ''DOING EVIL STUFF!''<br />
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:Bearded Fellow: Do you see this?<br />
<br />
:[Inset, the bearded fellow rubs his index and middle fingers against his thumb.]<br />
:Bearded Fellow: ''It's the world's tiniest open-source violin.''<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* In response to this comic, a [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3193 3D model for a tiny violin] was released as open source files.<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Richard Stallman]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring real people]]<br />
[[Category:Programming]]<br />
[[Category:Social networking]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&diff=1706502120: Brain Hemispheres2019-03-06T20:04:30Z<p>Dgbrt: −Category:Biology; +Category:Comics featuring Cueball; +Category:Biology using HotCat</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2120<br />
| date = March 6, 2019<br />
| title = Brain Hemispheres<br />
| image = brain_hemispheres.png<br />
| titletext = Neurologically speaking, the LEFT hand is actually the one at the end of the RIGHT arm.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by an AUTONOMOUS LEG and a CHICKEN. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
It is often said that the right half of the brain controls the left arm and left leg, and vice versa for the left half of the brain. Also, many people incorrectly say that different parts of the brain control logic and emotion. Randall joins and spoofs these by suggesting that the right brain instead controls the upper torso. This would mean both that your left leg moves independently of your brain, and that your right arm and right face have 'disputed' control within the brain. All 3 claims are false.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
:[A stick figure with the left half of the brain colored orange and the right half colored blue. A blue box is overlaid over the left half of the body, and an orange box is overlaid over the top half. An arrow labelled :'DISPUTED/DUAL CONTROL' points towards the overlapping area.]<br />
:'''Neuroscience Fact'''<br />
:The LEFT half of the brain actually controls the RIGHT half of the body... [Arrow pointing to blue rectangle]<br />
:...while the RIGHT half of the brain actually controls the TOP half of the body. [Arrow pointing to orange rectangle]<br />
:This leg is fully autonomous. [Arrow pointing to stick figure's left leg]<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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<br />
[[Category:Comics with color]]<br />
[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Biology]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2120:_Brain_Hemispheres&diff=1706492120: Brain Hemispheres2019-03-06T20:02:08Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Explanation */ Please not "Citation needed" at every explanation. It's ment to be a joke!</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2120<br />
| date = March 6, 2019<br />
| title = Brain Hemispheres<br />
| image = brain_hemispheres.png<br />
| titletext = Neurologically speaking, the LEFT hand is actually the one at the end of the RIGHT arm.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Created by an AUTONOMOUS LEG and a CHICKEN. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
It is often said that the right half of the brain controls the left arm and left leg, and vice versa for the left half of the brain. Also, many people incorrectly say that different parts of the brain control logic and emotion. Randall joins and spoofs these by suggesting that the right brain instead controls the upper torso. This would mean both that your left leg moves independently of your brain, and that your right arm and right face have 'disputed' control within the brain. All 3 claims are false.<br />
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:[A stick figure with the left half of the brain colored orange and the right half colored blue. A blue box is overlaid over the left half of the body, and an orange box is overlaid over the top half. An arrow labelled :'DISPUTED/DUAL CONTROL' points towards the overlapping area.]<br />
:'''Neuroscience Fact'''<br />
:The LEFT half of the brain actually controls the RIGHT half of the body... [Arrow pointing to blue rectangle]<br />
:...while the RIGHT half of the brain actually controls the TOP half of the body. [Arrow pointing to orange rectangle]<br />
:This leg is fully autonomous. [Arrow pointing to stick figure's left leg]<br />
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I think the comment about the axis direction is based on how you interpret the terms Best and Worst - either for Thor or those who encounter him. [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 17:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I agree. That interpretation should be in the explanation instead of the present one.--[[User:Pere prlpz|Pere prlpz]] ([[User talk:Pere prlpz|talk]]) 19:58, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Nah. It's definitely "Best" as "Funniest". -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::Could "axis" be a play on words? The plural of "axis" is "axes." [[User:Seezee|Seezee]] ([[User talk:Seezee|talk]]) 18:38, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: It's also a play on Tools vs Weapons. The chart title is "Tools" of Thor. Thor's hammer and axe are useful weapons, but not useful for building something.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.228|172.68.65.228]] 14:08, 15 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Whoops, it's already mentioned in the article. This is not the comment you are looking for. Nothing to see here, move along.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 14:12, 15 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
Many nail-guns use cartridges filled with a combustible material (gunpowder or similar) rather than a supply of compressed air. A blank load of a .22 rimfire pistol cartridge is typical. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder-actuated_tool [[Special:Contributions/50.202.80.200|50.202.80.200]] 18:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a possibility that the reversed axis suggests an (aero)plane as the worst weapon? Bad taste rules it out I suppose. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.179|108.162.212.179]] 18:46, 11 January 2019 (UTC) Nic<br />
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I think a lightning staple/nail gun would be pretty dope...[[User:Linker|Linker]] ([[User talk:Linker|talk]]) 18:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I've been hit or otherwise injured by most of these, but I do not know of anyone who has been planed, that's how dangerous planes are, everyone knows to be careful. [[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 19:17, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: I'm not sure if you're being humorous or if you have experience with powered board planers. Are they dangerous? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.178|162.158.78.178]] 20:37, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: It's like that World War II story about warplanes returning to base with an especially large amount of bullet holes away from the engine compartment: the reason being that shots to the engine were often fatal to the vehicle. Similarly, there are few people who are left to tell the horrors of plane tool injuries, as they are almost universally fatal. (I'm interpreting OP's post as a joke, for the record)[[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.10|172.69.62.10]] 02:53, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I have a neighbor who is missing the tips of several fingers on both hands. When asked what happened he explained that he pushed a board through a power planer without using a push-stick and slipped and the plane took off his fingertips. When asked about his left hand he explained that he used his left hand to push boards through the planer while his right hand was healing. (Yes, the tool most likely was a joiner not a planer, let’s not go down that particular rabbit hole)[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.25|173.245.54.25]] 04:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::No, quite serious, planes are deceptively dangerous.[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] ([[User talk:SDSpivey|talk]]) 17:57, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::It's notable that Randall specifies _hand_ tools. He likely meant a hand plane. Having tried to produce the curve in a bow by kneeling over it and scraping toward myself using the leverage of my legs and back, I can see these as potentially being dangerous, too. But most don't appear very dangerous as they have guards preventing deep cutting. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.232|162.158.78.232]] 15:39, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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It's a pity he didn't add "Screwdriver (sonic)" to the chart. [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 19:48, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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There are some nailguns that don't use compressed air tanks or combustible materials - they have air compressors in them, powered by drill batteries or wall outlets. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.167.120|162.158.167.120]] 20:12, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Also, unless that's an electric staple gun, the transcript should say nail gun. Look at how it's being held - as if there's a trigger, not as if there's a big handle on the back. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.167.120|162.158.167.120]] 20:17, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: It looks like a staplegun to me, which is the most common of the options. I figure the lever is pressed. But that's a good point, his hand is up towards the top, not down towards the bottom for leverage. (edited from previous comment when I realized I was wrong and wanted to talk nicer) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.178|162.158.78.178]] 20:37, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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* Thor holds an adversary who refuses to free hostages, swiping the plane closer and closer to their. Soon chunks of hair are flying. "OH MY GOD DON'T PLANE ME!"<br />
* Thor throws his flying dremel towards the control board of a distant nuclear bomb on a timer, where it _CUTS THE RED WIRE THE TIMER READS 0:00_<br />
* An evil corporation is marketing a new treatment for depression. Thor marches into a demonstration being broadcast worldwide. Brandishing Mjolnir, his digital calipers, he measures the subject's left eyeball. THE TREATMENT HAS GROWN IT BY TWO THOUSANDTHS OF AN INCH.<br />
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Actually Mjolnir was supposed to be in original myth a weapon, not a tool. Hammer used as weapon is different from hammer used as a tool; this is even more pronounced for axes: the fighting axe is quite different (less weight, much thinner and sharper blade) than e.g. woodcutter axe. --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 22:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Soo... I'm guessing that chainsaw was left off because it would require a log axis? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.48.63|173.245.48.63]] 22:36, 11 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Does anyone else fell like the first items are an Infinity War reference?<br />
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Depending on which type of digital caliper is wielded, it can be a nasty weapon or more like a rock. The kind that looks like a C-clamp not so fierce. But the Vernier digital caliper can be used like a double sided pick. Imagine Thor driving the inside caliper tines into the side of your head and then spinning the wheel to crack open your skull. Wait... don't imagine that. [[User:Fungible|Fungible]] ([[User talk:Fungible|talk]]) 00:47, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Would the caliper still function as a measurement tool after this use? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.106|162.158.78.106]] 15:59, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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It appears to me that a lot of the punchline of the comic is the "dremel", whatever that is, as it is near the right side of the comic and is allegedly what Thor is wielding in the last image. I think it definitely needs further explanation! Maybe I am the only person that has never heard of "dremel" before today, but I doubt it? Even looking it up just tells me that the Dremel company makes "hand held rotary tools", but that doesn't tell me what those are used for, and makes me think of phones... and Wikipedia says they also make other products such as 3D printers... [[User:Mathmannix|Mathmannix]] ([[User talk:Mathmannix|talk]]) 12:50, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
: The article is seriously missing a list of tools with photos. Could somebody familiar with markup at least make a skeleton table for the rest of us to slowly fill in? I think a dremel is a small powered object like a thick pencil, with a small bit at the end that spins at high speeds. I think you can place the spinning bit against stuff to cut, grind, clean, or polish it, depending on the attachment, not sure, never used one myself. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.106|162.158.78.106]] 15:59, 12 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::A Dremel tool is a small motor-powered tool with a locking chuck into which you can insert the shaft of various attachments. Typical attachments include small carbide cutting/grinding heads, thin abrasive cutoff disks, small saw blades, cylindrical abrasive drums, drill bits, soft polishing disks, etc. There are probably hundreds of different attachments available for just about any type of small work requirements. They do indeed run at high speeds, although some of the tools have variable speed control. Their advantage is the ability to control their application on small craft items with extreme precision. [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 04:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::: It's more properly called a die grinder or rotary tool. Dremel is simply a brand name that has fallen into regular usage as a generic trademark (much like kleenex, velcro, teflon, etc). That said, most people I talk to have no idea what I mean by "rotary tool" so I've sort of given up on using the tool's actual name. It's important to note that the tool relies on speed rather than torque for performing most functions. A dentist's drill is a good example of the possible application of this tool. [[Special:Contributions/103.22.200.144|103.22.200.144]] 13:18, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::: Thor meets Inspector Gadget: Archaeology [[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.228|172.68.65.228]] 16:15, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::: I don't know if it was on Randall's mind, but this old TV commercial for a Dremel multi-tool is quite apt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgKLhzArQTI . In the commercial, a narrator enthusiastically rattles off all of the various DIY tasks that can be accomplished by a Dremel... but the punchline is a hammer banging a nail into a piece of wood, the one thing that Dremel can't do (although it can cut the nail). [[User:Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] ([[User talk:Hawthorn|talk]]) 13:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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There exist electric jackhammers and pyrotechnic nailguns, so compressed air supply is not essential for Thor. -- [[Special:Contributions/198.41.242.46|198.41.242.46]] 17:16, 13 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I'm not sure if Randall was watching Infinity War closely enough. The axe is far, FAR more powerful than the hammer.<br />
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Don't show this comic to the Brits - they'd ban all the tools listed, and more. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.128|162.158.88.128]] 15:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Where's the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lathe_of_Heaven Lathe of Asgard] on this scale? -- [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.190|172.69.69.190]] 16:01, 14 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
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How about "thor's hammer, screwdriver and crescent wrench " (https://www.pinterest.de/pin/482025966347236010/) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.76|162.158.114.76]] 09:21, 14 January 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=569:_Borders&diff=170647569: Borders2019-03-06T19:56:31Z<p>Dgbrt: Reverted edits by Netherin5 (talk) to last revision by CRGreathouse</p>
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| titletext = Eventually a UN is set up. And then a lone rebel runs down the line of flags in front of it, runs back to his base, and gets a kajillion points.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{w|Capture the flag}} (CTF) is a common way of playing games where the objective is to capture the opponent's flag while protecting your own team's flag. This comic describes a CTF server for an online war game where peace has been established and no one is trying to capture each other's flags, therefore making the game unexciting and pointless.<br />
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The title text refers to the line of flags in front of UN buildings. If such a collection of flags of all the teams were established on a server, one could get a very high score by quickly capturing all of them. <br />
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A {{Wiktionary|kajillion}} is slang for "an unspecified large number."<br />
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LIATE is an acronym sometimes used when {{w|Integration by parts|integrating by parts}}. The preferred part to integrate is "Logarithmic, Inverse-trig, Algebraic, Trig, Exponential." "Yarbis" could be a reference to an acronym in Turkish for "Yıldız ARastirmaci BIlgi Sistemi" which means "Yildiz Researcher Information System" in English. "Yildiz" refers to Yildiz Technical University in Turkey.<br />
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:[Two Cueball-like guys stand on a hill overlooking a great city. One of them points at the city. Between them and the city stands an embassy flying a red flag. The text is not spoken by either of the guys.]<br />
:Three years ago, the kingdom of Liate overthrew their old order and established a constitutional monarchy. Our leaders signed a treaty with their queen, and our borders were set by the Yarbis Accords.<br />
:Many said war would be unending, that peace would always be a dream deferred. But today, our flag flies proudly over our embassy in their kingdom, and they walk our lands without fear.<br />
:So come, traveller. Lay down your grudges and join us in brotherhood. It is time not to fight, but to live.<br />
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:Cueball: This is the worst capture-the-flag server ever.<br />
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Oh man, I don’t know whether to laugh or passive aggressively link people this comic. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:''Mumbles about special places in hell for people that deserve links of this comic'' [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.90|162.158.90.90]] 08:11, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
::link it to them? send it in a weird data format, including notification bar of a phone, etc.--[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 08:34, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Flag this] needs to be here. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 12:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::: I will take a photo of the comic on my screen with my phone, send that to my PC, print it out onto paper, take a photo of that (on a wooden table), embed THAT photo into an Excel sheet comment, take a photo of THAT and embed into a Word Document, and send to my customers. They would find nothing untoward about this, based on how they send me error reports...[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.61|162.158.89.61]] 14:54, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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At the moment I'm seeing " https://twitter.com/openelex/status/853977391747801088 " as the title text [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.82|108.162.216.82]] 17:36, 25 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:That’s because the comic is a link, and clicking on it will take you there. The title text is correct, though. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:: You prankster Randall. On mobile, we can only see the link **in text** as the title text. Am I to believe this, as another example of human mangling of information into an unreadable form, is an accident? [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 19:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Reminds me of [https://thedailywtf.com/articles/Web_0_0x2e_1 Web 0.1 at TheDailyWTF].[[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.113|162.158.79.113]] 19:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Why the bloody hell is everyone censoring me???[[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.202|108.162.245.202]] 21:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:From the revision history, the only things that look like they could be interpreted as being censored are the "JEWISH SHILL" thing from the (no longer present) "incomplete" tag, which is hate speech, and the "SOON THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED" thing that briefly replaced all of the actual content, which is vandalism. Both are considered unacceptable. See also [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1357:_Free_Speech xkcd #1357] [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.22|162.158.214.22]] 03:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
::This person seems to have trouble posting their edits (probably unfamiliar with the simultaneous revision merging features which appear when two people edit at the same time) & hence isn't properly submitting their edits in the first place. I too see no evidence of anything but the instances you listed. I think they are ignorant of the proper steps & paranoid enough to believe there's a conspiracy to remove their comments, going on. (Note to user at 108.162.245.202 : Any edits ''or'' censorship show up in each page's edit history (just like Wikipedia). It's pretty easy to see everything that's been written ''or'' removed. Aside from the incidents noted by 162.158.214.22, you haven't had ''anything'' removed; You're not completing the edit process to begin with.) <br />
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I'm on my phone but can someone please work this link into the explanation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_art thanks<br />
:Done. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.173|108.162.246.173]] 01:20, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The "share" functionality on mobile systems may serve as a rather catch-all protocol. On PC not many apps have this in mind.<br />
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Could someone do a short explanation of what absentee precincts are? A (quick) google search could not answer that question to me, and I think for many who do not deal with the topic whichever absentee precincts refer to will have the same question... --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 08:07, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I love .NORM files, they compress so well: https://explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1683:_Digital_Data [[Special:Contributions/162.158.78.178|162.158.78.178]] 17:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Is this really all that common? Am I the only one who came to explainxkcd because I only half got the joke? Sure, a photo of a screen with data is useless and stupid, but why make a comic about it? This has never happened to me. [[User:Jqavins|Jqavins]] ([[User talk:Jqavins|talk]]) 13:54, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It is really all that common. So common, in fact, that the original XKCD comic links to [https://twitter.com/openelex/status/853977391747801088 this]. That is on a government scale. Yes, it’s annoying. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 14:13, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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One possible legitimate use of this is when you don't trust the recipient from taking your hard work and not giving you credit for it. For an example when one of my previous employers laid me off because of 'financial reasons', there was a possibility that he might continue to send me projects as an independent contractor because he was under staffed. If he had sent me any projects, I was seriously considering sending him a screenshot of the Excel documents showing the work I completed for him to review and only after I get paid, I would submit the work to the web server because I did not trust him taking my work and uploading it himself without paying me for it.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.122.162|162.158.122.162]] 21:18, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text is not proposing vector JPEG, but vector JPEG *artifacts*; that is to say, converting the artifacts inherent in JPEG into vector form to be included in the SVG.<br />
:Yep, quite agree. The last paragraph misses the point IMHO. Using the terminology of the first half of the paragraph as it currently stands, Randall is proposing a filter that takes a line, caculates that it would run through X, Y and Z at low resolution, then expands the vector definition to include square blocks at those intervals (possibly with half-coloured squares surrounding it). Utterly pointless but it would satisfy both the needs of data users (since the underlying vector information is still there) and the aesthetic sensibilities of screenshot-posters (who expect to see blocky glitches). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.88.10|141.101.88.10]] 09:30, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I just want to say, in the linked tweet from less then two years ago, there's a guy with a blue check mark whose running for Detroit city clerk to fix stuff like this and wanting to get with the data wonks who posted it to see what else there was. I thought that was hella cool and went to see if he won. The man is now Lt. Governor of Michigan. That's a hell of a two year run for anyone. Well done. -[[Special:Contributions/172.68.174.64|172.68.174.64]] 03:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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So, 3 days after this went up, Microsoft posted this blog [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2019/02/28/new-to-microsoft-365-in-february-advance-security-and-empower-a-modern-workplace/#excel Add Data to Excel Directly from a Photo]. [[User:Thaledison|Thaledison]] ([[User talk:Thaledison|talk]]) 20:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I seem to recall, back in the old-old-old days, when it was common practice to include a copy of the program itself when sending data created by that program. Also, it is still common to find text displayed entirely within images on some web pages.[[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 20:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Anyone know why there might be an extra space before "aesthetic" in the title/mouseover text?<br />
It doesn't show up in this wiki cause mediawiki likes to strip extra whitespace, but it's there on xkcd.com and in the source of this page. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.206.40|172.68.206.40]] 18:32, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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'''Microsoft announces an AI service to further enable this...sigh'''<br />
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Now in Excel for Android... https://www.engadget.com/amp/2019/03/01/microsoft-excel-import-data-from-picture-android/ {{unsigned ip|108.162.219.112}}<br />
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| date = February 25, 2019<br />
| title = .NORM Normal File Format<br />
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| titletext = At some point, compression becomes an aesthetic design choice. Luckily, SVG is a really flexible format, so there's no reason it can't support vector JPEG artifacts.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
[[File:XKCD2116.norm.jpg|thumb|150px|An example of what Cueball might have seen, but presumably with numbers or other data rather than words.]]<br />
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Cueball's friend seems to have sent him a rather unusual datafile passed off as a new "normal" standard.<br />
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People who work with data, and need data sent to them electronically, typically need it sent in a way that they can easily use it &ndash; either in a text format that can be copy-pasted, or as a spreadsheet or CSV file that can be imported into a spreadsheet program, or such.<br />
Information sent by Cueball's friend in this fashion &ndash; a photograph of a spreadsheet embedded into a word processing file &ndash; is not only aesthetically unpleasing, but essentially useless for any purpose beyond being looked at. The recipient has no choice but to retype the entire data set, or attempt to use optical character recognition (OCR), and hope that no mistakes are made in the process. <br />
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Any functional relationships between data (such as formulas used to compute data values) have been lost. Further, the size of the data is bloated by being converted first from numbers and formulas into text, then text into graphics, and then from graphics to embedded graphics in a word processing document. This adds nothing to the content, and only adds steps to the process of retrieving the data.<br />
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However useless this kind of data manipulation might be, it is becoming more and more common, especially as more non-computer literate people find "creative" ways to exchange information. Usually, their job is getting the data together in a Word file, and the only file they have is a screenshot of the spreadsheet, not the original file, so they just put screenshot in the Word file. Cueball's friend suggests that this is now a normal way to send files, and that Cueball should update his system to support this new type of file, represented by a ".norm" suffix.<br />
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The caption acknowledges that this has become a ''de facto'' standard and that we should just accept and formalize it.<br />
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The comic image links to a [https://twitter.com/openelex/status/853977391747801088 tweet by OpenElections] that displays an Excel file produced by the City of Detroit that contains a lookup table for the city's absentee precincts in 2016. The data had been input as clip art (images) of the values, instead of being entered in the spreadsheet cells.<br />
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This comic is reminiscent of the comic [[763:_Workaround|Workaround]], which also describes convoluted formats.<br />
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The title text suggests that eventually compression (or at least compression with data/quality loss) will be unnecessary as technology improves in the future. SVG ({{w|Scalable Vector Graphics}}) is a vector graphic format that is fundamentally a lossless format, representing images using geometric figures. {{w|JPEG}} is a lossy format, representing images as an array of rectangles approximating the original image. Randall suggests that some people in the future may choose to include JPEG artifacts to SVG vector graphics for its "aesthetics", perhaps as a throwback to when lower quality JPEG images were commonplace, or as a form of {{w|glitch art}}. It is possible that some in the future will view JPEG artifacts as giving their images a quaint/retro feel, much the way that some people today use sepia-tone filters on their images. (And much like some people today use JPEG artifacts to give their images [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/ an intentionally low-quality appearance].)<br />
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This is made even more reasonable by the fact that the SVG spec employs a lot of filters, and already can embed regular pixel-based JPEG files. Furthermore, it allows JavaScript to be used to manipulate objects, meaning such an effect may be implementable in the current SVG 2.0 spec.<br />
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But this is all undone by the request for "vector JPEG". JPEG is a raster format, not a vector format. Vector formats encode data about lines and shapes and so on, while raster formats encode data about each pixel or groups of pixels. Vector formats can be translated to raster at a given resolution - line A means pixels X, Y, and Z, for example - but translating the other way is difficult - if you have pixels X, Y, and Z in a row, it is not possible to be entirely certain whether they are supposed to be a line or three small dots. Thus, there is not (and, from some points of view, can not be) such a thing as "vector JPEG".<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Cueball is at a computer. Someone is talking to him from off-panel.]<br />
:Voice: I sent you the data.<br />
:Cueball: Thanks!<br />
:Cueball: &hellip;this is a Word document containing an embedded photo you took of your screen with the spreadsheet open.<br />
:Voice: Yeah? Does your computer not support .NORM files? Maybe you need to update.<br />
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:[Caption below the panel:]<br />
:Since everyone sends stuff this way anyway, we should just formalize it as a standard.<br />
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[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
Several days after this comic release Microsoft announced support for loading pictures into Excel. A photo of a printed data table shall be converted it into a fully editable table. See: [https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/1/18246429/microsoft-excel-covert-photos-data-tables-editable-table-ai-feature Microsoft Excel will now let you snap a picture of a spreadsheet and import it (theverge.com)]<br />
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| date = February 25, 2019<br />
| title = .NORM Normal File Format<br />
| image = norm_normal_file_format.png<br />
| titletext = At some point, compression becomes an aesthetic design choice. Luckily, SVG is a really flexible format, so there's no reason it can't support vector JPEG artifacts.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
[[File:XKCD2116.norm.jpg|thumb|150px|An example of what Cueball might have seen, but presumably with numbers or other data rather than words.]]<br />
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Cueball's friend seems to have sent him a rather unusual datafile passed off as a new "normal" standard.<br />
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People who work with data, and need data sent to them electronically, typically need it sent in a way that they can easily use it &ndash; either in a text format that can be copy-pasted, or as a spreadsheet or CSV file that can be imported into a spreadsheet program, or such.<br />
Information sent by Cueball's friend in this fashion &ndash; a photograph of a spreadsheet embedded into a word processing file &ndash; is not only aesthetically unpleasing, but essentially useless for any purpose beyond being looked at. The recipient has no choice but to retype the entire data set, or attempt to use optical character recognition (OCR), and hope that no mistakes are made in the process. <br />
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Any functional relationships between data (such as formulas used to compute data values) have been lost. Further, the size of the data is bloated by being converted first from numbers and formulas into text, then text into graphics, and then from graphics to embedded graphics in a word processing document. This adds nothing to the content, and only adds steps to the process of retrieving the data.<br />
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It is worth noting (and emphasizing by placement in a separate paragraph) that several days later Microsoft announced support for loading pictures of documents into Excel. [https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/1/18246429/microsoft-excel-covert-photos-data-tables-editable-table-ai-feature]<br />
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However useless this kind of data manipulation might be, it is becoming more and more common, especially as more non-computer literate people find "creative" ways to exchange information. Usually, their job is getting the data together in a Word file, and the only file they have is a screenshot of the spreadsheet, not the original file, so they just put screenshot in the Word file. Cueball's friend suggests that this is now a normal way to send files, and that Cueball should update his system to support this new type of file, represented by a ".norm" suffix.<br />
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The caption acknowledges that this has become a ''de facto'' standard and that we should just accept and formalize it.<br />
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The comic image links to a [https://twitter.com/openelex/status/853977391747801088 tweet by OpenElections] that displays an Excel file produced by the City of Detroit that contains a lookup table for the city's absentee precincts in 2016. The data had been input as clip art (images) of the values, instead of being entered in the spreadsheet cells.<br />
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This comic is reminiscent of the comic [[763:_Workaround|Workaround]], which also describes convoluted formats.<br />
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The title text suggests that eventually compression (or at least compression with data/quality loss) will be unnecessary as technology improves in the future. SVG ({{w|Scalable Vector Graphics}}) is a vector graphic format that is fundamentally a lossless format, representing images using geometric figures. {{w|JPEG}} is a lossy format, representing images as an array of rectangles approximating the original image. Randall suggests that some people in the future may choose to include JPEG artifacts to SVG vector graphics for its "aesthetics", perhaps as a throwback to when lower quality JPEG images were commonplace, or as a form of {{w|glitch art}}. It is possible that some in the future will view JPEG artifacts as giving their images a quaint/retro feel, much the way that some people today use sepia-tone filters on their images. (And much like some people today use JPEG artifacts to give their images [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/ an intentionally low-quality appearance].)<br />
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This is made even more reasonable by the fact that the SVG spec employs a lot of filters, and already can embed regular pixel-based JPEG files. Furthermore, it allows JavaScript to be used to manipulate objects, meaning such an effect may be implementable in the current SVG 2.0 spec.<br />
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But this is all undone by the request for "vector JPEG". JPEG is a raster format, not a vector format. Vector formats encode data about lines and shapes and so on, while raster formats encode data about each pixel or groups of pixels. Vector formats can be translated to raster at a given resolution - line A means pixels X, Y, and Z, for example - but translating the other way is difficult - if you have pixels X, Y, and Z in a row, it is not possible to be entirely certain whether they are supposed to be a line or three small dots. Thus, there is not (and, from some points of view, can not be) such a thing as "vector JPEG".<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Cueball is at a computer. Someone is talking to him from off-panel.]<br />
:Voice: I sent you the data.<br />
:Cueball: Thanks!<br />
:Cueball: &hellip;this is a Word document containing an embedded photo you took of your screen with the spreadsheet open.<br />
:Voice: Yeah? Does your computer not support .NORM files? Maybe you need to update.<br />
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:[Caption below the panel:]<br />
:Since everyone sends stuff this way anyway, we should just formalize it as a standard.<br />
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[[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br />
[[Category:Computers]]<br />
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{{comic discussion}}</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1236:_Seashell&diff=1706421236: Seashell2019-03-06T19:33:25Z<p>Dgbrt: Moved to trivia, one single statistician against many others.</p>
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| date = July 10, 2013<br />
| title = Seashell<br />
| image = seashell.png<br />
| titletext = This is roughly equivalent to 'number of times I've picked up a seashell at the ocean' / 'number of times I've picked up a seashell', which in my case is pretty close to 1, and gets much closer if we're considering only times I didn't put it to my ear.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
The equation should be read as follows: (The probability that I'm near the ocean, given that I picked up a seashell) is equal to (The probability that I picked up a seashell, given that I'm near the ocean) multiplied by (The probability that I'm near the ocean) divided by (The probability that I picked up a seashell). This method of relating the probabilities of two events is known as {{w|Bayes' theorem|Bayes' Theorem}}.<br />
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If you put a seashell up to your ear, you can hear {{w|Seashell resonance|a sound similar to the ocean}} apparently inside the shell. But the idea that this sound is actually the sound of the sea is just a popular myth: hold only your hands close to your ears and you will hear the same sound. The comic, through an application of Bayes' Theorem, points out that most of the time when you pick up a seashell, you are in fact at the beach next to the real ocean, so hearing the ocean at that location is not all that impressive, but it's just real.<br />
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The title text points out that most instances where the author has picked up a seashell have been at the beach, and nearly all of the times where he has picked up a seashell and not put it to his ear have been there.<br />
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This comic was released late. In the first version, the formula was incorrect, but it has since been corrected.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:At the top of the panel is an equation showing Bayes' Theorem for the probability that a person is near the ocean given that they just picked up a seashell.<br />
:The probability that I'm near the ocean given I picked up a seashell equals the probability I picked up a seashell given I'm near the ocean times the probability I'm near the ocean all divided by the probability I picked up a seashell.<br />
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:[Cueball holds a seashell and stands to the left of the panel, to the right, a few birds are flying around and the sound of a wave crashing against the shore is depicted.]<br />
:''Crashhh'' ''Sploosh''<br />
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:Statistically speaking, if you pick up a seashell and ''don't'' hold it to your ear, you can probably hear the ocean.<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
Note that while this form of Bayes's theorem is often taught in statistics classes, [https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783319397559 at least one statistician] tries to show in a philosophical way that unconditional probability does not exist, which would make the equation improper as stated.<br />
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::You are correct. Clarke has always insisted that the letter-shift from IBM was coincidence and that he would've picked a different name had they known at the time. HAL has always stood for "Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer". ({{w|HAL 9000#Origin of name|source}}). [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 13:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
[[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Can you do me a favour and stop censoring my edits? If your position has any merit (it doesn't), you could defeat me in debate (you can't). {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Fuck you, shill. Soon the truth will be revealed, whether you want it to be or not. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.240|162.158.106.240]] 21:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
Please no censorship on comments like this in a talk page unless it's really vandalism. I have reverted the two "deleted troll stuff" remarks back to the original. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:With the language being used, the comments were, indeed, vandalism. Re-removed them. {{unsigned ip|108.162.216.82}}<br />
::Bad language isn't vandalism - but your action editing comments written by others is vandalism. This is a talk page and everybody can say anything, but some nonsense like this require a proper reply. This is not the explanation page. And further more deleting comments gives the writer an argument about censorship which in this case would be correct. Do you want that writer having a correct argument?<br />
::BTW: Please do not forget to sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Table==<br />
may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Randalls favorite video orientation ==<br />
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What makes people think he likes the horizontal orientation more? Looking at the comic it seems to me he likes the vertical orientation more. --[[Special:Contributions/172.69.54.87|172.69.54.87]] 10:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1911:_Defensive_Profile&diff=170631Talk:1911: Defensive Profile2019-03-06T19:06:14Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.</p>
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This reminds me of his "free speech" comic. In both, he implies that if people get mad at you for what you say, you must be the one in the wrong. He also implies that people who make that kind of statement "don't understand" why people take offense. That makes very little sense. If they say something like that, they must understand why some people dislike them. Quite possibly they even enjoy having that effect. [[User:Gmcgath|Gmcgath]] ([[User talk:Gmcgath|talk]]) 21:09, 3 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: That brings new meaning to "objective truth". In the modern world it certainly seems sometimes that relativism reigns supreme. Let's see... If we all get angry at Randall, is Randall wrong? [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.40|198.41.238.40]] 07:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: Huh. What a bizarre comment. The underlying idea that (some) people know exactly why what they are saying makes people angry and actually enjoy it. (These people are commonly called "assholes.") But I see no correlation in this and your interpretation of his freedom of speech comic. And your interpretation is very far off from what said comic said. It said that "if the best argument you have is that your comment is freedom of speech, it must be a bad argument." Freedom of speech lets you say what you want, but you still have to actually defend your argument. You don't get to just say "freedom of speech" and win the Internet. Nothing about anger making it wrong. [[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly|talk]]) 08:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: If your entire argument is that you do not care about other peoples free speech the you just show that you are unable to even address the argument. This comic directly implies that when anybody is offended by a statement than the person making the statement is in the wrong. "i am offended by your comment and the comic itself" - so now what? By your logic that means you did something wrong. {{unsigned ip|172.68.51.148}}<br />
: I don't have an account yet, but I just wanted to respond to Trlkly, actually the 1st Amendment/Freedom of Speech is the Right to NOT have the Government regulate your speech; this still actually leaves open a wide variety of ways in which your speech/conduct can be regulated by private persons and organizations. This is what is meant by 'Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence', and *doesn't* in particular refer to needing to *backup* your arguments/speech with a valid reasoning; that's a separate point of concern. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.117|162.158.74.117]] 20:41, 6 November 2017 (UTC)Raenir Salazar.<br />
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Chrome with the official Google Translate extension allows just this kind of view translation of a selection only. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.253.221|172.68.253.221]] 03:14, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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The first one works, somewhat. But the second one? What does "drama free zone" and "make people sad" have to do with one another? Drama (in this sense) is about anger, not sadness. And I don't think it's necessarily a horrible thing that you aren't good at dealing with people who get angry at you. Why assume everyone is a bad person? [[User:Trlkly|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly|talk]]) 08:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: I think that part refers to the "Geek Social Fallacies", one of which is that "addressing conflict" is the same as "cause drama" - failing to realize that addressing conflict is the way to SOLVE it, reducing drama in the long run. If a person thinks like that, telling them that you disagree/are offended by their comment would likely make them confused, angry and defensive, with no idea how to handle and overcome the conflict. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.68|162.158.88.68]] 21:16, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: I disagree with the statement "Drama (in this sense) is about anger, not sadness." The term "drama" is invoked on social media for any emotional response the invoker feels is too large to be warranted by the situation. So being excessively (in the eyes of the person invoking) sad is equally "drama" as being excessively angry. The comic and explanation don't necessarily imply that it makes you a horrible person either, just that many people's attempts to avoid drama (which seems like a noble goal on the surface) are actually their inability to deal with problems they might have caused and are far less noble on close inspection. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.64|108.162.237.64]] 20:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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The last paragraph (relating to Donald Trump and Twitter) seems out of place. It doesn't serve to describe the comic, and fails to establish context. Thoughts on deleting it completely? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.69.211|162.158.69.211]] 18:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: I agree. While I get that Randall doesn't support Trump - just look at [[1756: I'm With Her]]. That doesn't mean that he has to be shoehorned into the description for any comic that deals with anything even vaguely political [[User:Figvh|Figvh]] ([[User talk:Figvh|talk]]) 23:52, 4 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: I think it does not "fail to establish context"; the opposite actually. And therefore should be maintained. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.27.12|172.68.27.12]] 20:05, 5 November 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: I agree, this particular comic makes no reference to political views or current affairs. It is much more likely that this comment is based on personal experiences. The only links to Donald Trump are that this a comment about social media when there has been a recent news article relating to Trump and social media and that the topic is about defensiveness, which Trump is often accused of. Both are likely to be purely coincidental, given Trump has always been highly active on social media and the accusation of defensiveness could be applied to millions of people.<br />
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: Guy above, don't forget to sign your comments. Anyway, I think the fact that the comic looks like Twitter, as described in the article, makes this news item notable, especially as it provides an alternative explanation as to why Randall might want to portray "offensive" people on Twitter as insecure, as said in the article. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.230.172|198.41.230.172]] 13:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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One should also note that the comic number is 1911, the famous handgun made by Colt adding another meaning to the term defensive profile.<br />
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This comic sadly shows the very disturbing trent that more and more people think their feelings are a valid argument in a discussion and thus any statement they disagree with should not be allowed. If you can not handle reality then that is bad luck for you, but you have no right to impeach on the rights of others.{{unsigned ip|172.68.51.148}}</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2117:_Differentiation_and_Integration&diff=170628Talk:2117: Differentiation and Integration2019-03-06T18:58:17Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments. Layout.</p>
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Darn, I have no idea what this comic is about. Randal has eluded my yet again. [[User:Linker|Linker]] ([[User talk:Linker|talk]]) 17:43, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Calculus. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.143|162.158.79.143]] 18:16, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Basically, differentiation is easy to do by hand, but integration, even of things that look simple on paper, can be very difficult, as well as easy to mess up or get lost in. [[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 01:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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And Calc 2 is why I stopped being a Computer Science major and moved (eventually) to majoring in English. Consistent 4.0s in math through Trig and Calc I ... 1.6 in Calc II, retook and got a 1.8. Without the Calc, couldn't do the physics; without the physics, couldn't get my 2-yr degree and move on from community college to a full university. I don't know what all the integration stuff in the flowchart is (since I didn't do well in Calc and it was a long time ago), but there's so very many things that become [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonelementary_integral nonelementary integrals] that all sorts of special tricks have to be employed for things that look like they should be easy. It's like having a problem that's very easy to do division on, but requires special advanced mathematical tricks to use multiplication upon.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.208|108.162.216.208]] 19:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Basic ideas:<br />
Integration by parts is the reverse of the Product Rule.<br />
Substitution is the reverse of the Chain Rule.<br />
Cauchy's Formula gives the result of a contour integration in the complex plane, using "singularities" of the integrand.<br />
Partial fractions is just splitting up one complex fraction into a sum of simple fractions, which is relevant because they are easier to integrate.<br />
Stokes theorem is the relationship between an integral over an area, and an integral over the boundary of said area.<br />
Riemann integration was the first rigorous definition of integration. This has been superseded by Lesbesgue integration.<br />
Bessel functions are like 2d versions of sin and cos, and turn up sometimes when doing integration.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.61|162.158.89.61]] 20:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:"Lesbesgue integration." Best. Freudian. Slip. Ever. SCNR :P [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.59|162.158.91.59]] 08:28, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
I know what you mean ;). After all, Gen 8 Pokemon was announced the other day, so you read it as "Pokemon League Integration". Completely understandable. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.78.28|172.68.78.28]] 14:40, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
Shouldn't Wolfram Alpha be somewhere in that flowchart? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.142|162.158.255.142]] 20:54, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who is too dumb to integrate [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.36|162.158.90.36]] 21:02, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Symbolic differentiation is just going through algorithm ; there are few functions which don't have it but they tend to be constructed in complicated way, and if function have differentiation it's usually easy to find it. Symbolic integration requires lot of thinking and trial and error ; even very easy function may lack primitive function and even if they don't, you may be unable to find it except randomly. If it's exercise in book, the ones for differentiation are done by thinking about some interesting function and putting it there. The ones for integration are done by thinking about some interesting function and putting it's differentiation there. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:38, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Oddly enough it mentions Riemann integration, but that is the integral most people know how to use. Turns out there are a lot more (e.g. lebesgue and generalized riemann integrals). I'm halfway through a second semester of real analysis and was floored by how involved integration can be. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.34.106|172.68.34.106]] 21:36, 27 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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One of my professors once said: "Never try to integrate a function. Almost all (in a strict mathematical sense) functions are impossible to integrate, so there is no reason why you should even try." --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.128|162.158.88.128]] 07:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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How is there no "+ C" joke in there [[User:Blagae|Blagae]] ([[User talk:Blagae|talk]]) 13:16, 28 February 2019 <br />
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Probably because he put a +C joke in 1201:_Integration_by_Parts. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.160|108.162.219.160]] 13:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Risch algorithm ==<br />
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I thought I could contribute to the article with a better explanation of the Risch algorithm, since I have a bit of expertise here -- I've read all the original papers, plus the Cherry papers that add the extra features like Li and erf. I pulled out some of the old papers to review my knowledge of symbolic differential algebra (it's been a while!) then typed up a careful explanation which corrected some errors in the original description and fleshed out many more details... possibly excessively, but hey, that's kind of our calling here.<br />
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Then I saw that Glassvein completely removed my version for what appears to be the original without so much as a mention in the edit description. What gives? I<br />
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[[User:CRGreathouse|CRGreathouse]] ([[User talk:CRGreathouse|talk]]) 04:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Probably due to simultaneous editing. I've restored your definition. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.128|162.158.88.128]] 16:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:: OK, wasn't sure if it was intentional (if somehow it was worse). Thanks! [[User:CRGreathouse|CRGreathouse]] ([[User talk:CRGreathouse|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
That was indeed an accident due to simultaneous editing. My bad!<br />
[[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Numerical Integration ==<br />
Better still...plot the graph - cut along the line - weigh the part under the line. :-) [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 20:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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[Anonymous: I understand mathematically that integration is much more difficult than differentiation, but is there a possibility that Randall is making the comment that the same is true for Society? Integration has proved very difficult, and has led to riots, but experience shows that dividing our society up into small subgroups (that then argue with each other, but don't spend enough time together for riots) is relatively easy.]{{unsigned ip|108.162.219.112}}</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=1705832119: Video Orientation2019-03-05T20:09:17Z<p>Dgbrt: added Category:Smartphones using HotCat</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2119<br />
| date = March 4, 2019<br />
| title = Video Orientation<br />
| image = video_orientation.png<br />
| titletext = CIRCULAR VIDEO - PROS: Solves aspect ratio problem. CONS: Never trust anyone who talks to you from inside a circle.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|This was created by a TRUSTWORTHY CIRCULAR VIDEO. Need to make interpretation of circular text neutral, ideally by enumerating all the interpretations listed in the comments. Is the following relevant? Nothing about Bold and Dynamic. Better explanation on horizontal and vertical needed. DO NOT DELETE THIS TOO SOON (It already was once.)}}<br />
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This comic compares selected pros and cons of 3 video "orientations" (also known as angling), one of which is entirely made-up. This comic could have been inspired {{Dubious}} by articles like https://mashable.com/2017/12/28/vertical-video-mainstream-year/#GEK.NgJ74mqR, and https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/video-looks-most-natural-horizontally-but-we-hold-our-phones-vertically/, which comment on how videos are now filmed vertically through smartphones.<br />
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From Randall's comments on horizontal vs vertical, it seems that he is in favor of horizontal videos. However, he does love a good [[690|compromise]], so he suggests "Diagonal Orientation" as a third option to equally dissatisfy both types of user. The issue with this is that diagonal angling fails to fully capture the benefits of either horizontal or vertical angling.<br />
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This is another comic claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident "so we might as well just accept it", following on from [[2116: .NORM Normal File Format]] a week prior.<br />
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'''Horizontal orientation'''<br />
# Good for people not used to phones, and has been used for centuries for capturing video.<br />
# Not the best at capturing a human's entire body, without also capturing much of their surroundings.<br />
# Potentially uncomfortable for the one making the recording to maintain over a long period of time, as most phones were designed for vertical holding.<br />
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'''Vertical orientation'''<br />
# Supposedly the norm for most users capturing video on their smartphone (many users will avoid shooting this way despite potential discomfort)<br />
# Not ideal for capturing the background, as our world is mostly a "horizontal plane".<br />
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'''Diagonal orientation'''<br />
# Not a standard format of video, thus "bold and dynamic". {{Citation needed}}<br />
# Equally annoying to all viewers.<br />
# Flawless, as in perfect in every way.{{Dubious}}<br />
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Diagonal angling is commonly known as "oblique angle" or "{{w|Dutch angle}}" in cinema and is often used to portray psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed.<br />
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The title text quip about circular video could be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle, or being spoken to by members of a select or secretive circle of people, hence not trusting anything what is said to you due to perhaps lacking evidence of their motivations, or HAL 9000 from {{w|2001: A Space Odyssey}}. It could also be a reference to Loki in The Avengers, who is the god of trickery and is held at one point in a circular cell. The title text quip may also be a reference to an advertising trope where a talking head in a circle is superimposed over images of the product being advertised, usually this is a the case in low budget productions for "as seen on TV" products.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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:[The image shows three columns by three rows with the following headers:]<br />
:'''Video Orientation'''<br />
:'''Pros'''<br />
:'''Cons'''<br />
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:[First row:]<br />
:[A wide picture with a text above:]<br />
:Horizontal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Looks normal to old people<br />
:*Format used by a century of cinema<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Humans are taller than are wide<br />
:*I'm not turning my phone sideways<br />
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:[Second row:]<br />
:[A tall picture with a text above:]<br />
:Vertical<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*How most normal people shoot and watch video now so we may as well accept it<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Human world is mostly a horizontal plane<br />
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:[Third row:]<br />
:[A picture rotated by 45 degrees with a text above:]<br />
:Diagonal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Bold and dynamic<br />
:*Equally annoying to all viewers<br />
:*Good compromise<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*None<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Compromise]]<br />
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
[[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Can you do me a favour and stop censoring my edits? If your position has any merit (it doesn't), you could defeat me in debate (you can't). {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Fuck you, shill. Soon the truth will be revealed, whether you want it to be or not. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.240|162.158.106.240]] 21:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
Please no censorship on comments like this in a talk page unless it's really vandalism. I have reverted the two "deleted troll stuff" remarks back to the original. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Table==<br />
may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=1705812119: Video Orientation2019-03-05T20:08:02Z<p>Dgbrt: Category is below.</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2119<br />
| date = March 4, 2019<br />
| title = Video Orientation<br />
| image = video_orientation.png<br />
| titletext = CIRCULAR VIDEO - PROS: Solves aspect ratio problem. CONS: Never trust anyone who talks to you from inside a circle.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|This was created by a TRUSTWORTHY CIRCULAR VIDEO. Need to make interpretation of circular text neutral, ideally by enumerating all the interpretations listed in the comments. Is the following relevant? Nothing about Bold and Dynamic. Better explanation on horizontal and vertical needed. DO NOT DELETE THIS TOO SOON (It already was once.)}}<br />
<br />
This comic compares selected pros and cons of 3 video "orientations" (also known as angling), one of which is entirely made-up. This comic could have been inspired {{Dubious}} by articles like https://mashable.com/2017/12/28/vertical-video-mainstream-year/#GEK.NgJ74mqR, and https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/video-looks-most-natural-horizontally-but-we-hold-our-phones-vertically/, which comment on how videos are now filmed vertically through smartphones.<br />
<br />
From Randall's comments on horizontal vs vertical, it seems that he is in favor of horizontal videos. However, he does love a good [[690|compromise]], so he suggests "Diagonal Orientation" as a third option to equally dissatisfy both types of user. The issue with this is that diagonal angling fails to fully capture the benefits of either horizontal or vertical angling.<br />
<br />
This is another comic claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident "so we might as well just accept it", following on from [[2116: .NORM Normal File Format]] a week prior.<br />
<br />
'''Horizontal orientation'''<br />
# Good for people not used to phones, and has been used for centuries for capturing video.<br />
# Not the best at capturing a human's entire body, without also capturing much of their surroundings.<br />
# Potentially uncomfortable for the one making the recording to maintain over a long period of time, as most phones were designed for vertical holding.<br />
<br />
'''Vertical orientation'''<br />
# Supposedly the norm for most users capturing video on their smartphone (many users will avoid shooting this way despite potential discomfort)<br />
# Not ideal for capturing the background, as our world is mostly a "horizontal plane".<br />
<br />
'''Diagonal orientation'''<br />
# Not a standard format of video, thus "bold and dynamic". {{Citation needed}}<br />
# Equally annoying to all viewers.<br />
# Flawless, as in perfect in every way.{{Dubious}}<br />
<br />
<br />
Diagonal angling is commonly known as "oblique angle" or "{{w|Dutch angle}}" in cinema and is often used to portray psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed.<br />
<br />
The title text quip about circular video could be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle, or being spoken to by members of a select or secretive circle of people, hence not trusting anything what is said to you due to perhaps lacking evidence of their motivations, or HAL 9000 from {{w|2001: A Space Odyssey}}. It could also be a reference to Loki in The Avengers, who is the god of trickery and is held at one point in a circular cell. The title text quip may also be a reference to an advertising trope where a talking head in a circle is superimposed over images of the product being advertised, usually this is a the case in low budget productions for "as seen on TV" products.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
<br />
:[The image shows three columns by three rows with the following headers:]<br />
:'''Video Orientation'''<br />
:'''Pros'''<br />
:'''Cons'''<br />
<br />
:[First row:]<br />
:[A wide picture with a text above:]<br />
:Horizontal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Looks normal to old people<br />
:*Format used by a century of cinema<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Humans are taller than are wide<br />
:*I'm not turning my phone sideways<br />
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:[Second row:]<br />
:[A tall picture with a text above:]<br />
:Vertical<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*How most normal people shoot and watch video now so we may as well accept it<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Human world is mostly a horizontal plane<br />
<br />
:[Third row:]<br />
:[A picture rotated by 45 degrees with a text above:]<br />
:Diagonal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Bold and dynamic<br />
:*Equally annoying to all viewers<br />
:*Good compromise<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*None<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Compromise]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=1705802119: Video Orientation2019-03-05T20:06:47Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2119<br />
| date = March 4, 2019<br />
| title = Video Orientation<br />
| image = video_orientation.png<br />
| titletext = CIRCULAR VIDEO - PROS: Solves aspect ratio problem. CONS: Never trust anyone who talks to you from inside a circle.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|This was created by a TRUSTWORTHY CIRCULAR VIDEO. Need to make interpretation of circular text neutral, ideally by enumerating all the interpretations listed in the comments. Is the following relevant? Nothing about Bold and Dynamic. Better explanation on horizontal and vertical needed. DO NOT DELETE THIS TOO SOON (It already was once.)}}<br />
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This comic compares selected pros and cons of 3 video "orientations" (also known as angling), one of which is entirely made-up. This comic could have been inspired {{Dubious}} by articles like https://mashable.com/2017/12/28/vertical-video-mainstream-year/#GEK.NgJ74mqR, and https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/video-looks-most-natural-horizontally-but-we-hold-our-phones-vertically/, which comment on how videos are now filmed vertically through smartphones.<br />
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From Randall's comments on horizontal vs vertical, it seems that he is in favor of horizontal videos. However, he does love a good [[690|compromise]][[:Category:Compromise]], so he suggests "Diagonal Orientation" as a third option to equally dissatisfy both types of user. The issue with this is that diagonal angling fails to fully capture the benefits of either horizontal or vertical angling.<br />
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This is another comic claiming that an obviously bad idea keeps being done by accident "so we might as well just accept it", following on from [[2116: .NORM Normal File Format]] a week prior.<br />
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'''Horizontal orientation'''<br />
# Good for people not used to phones, and has been used for centuries for capturing video.<br />
# Not the best at capturing a human's entire body, without also capturing much of their surroundings.<br />
# Potentially uncomfortable for the one making the recording to maintain over a long period of time, as most phones were designed for vertical holding.<br />
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'''Vertical orientation'''<br />
# Supposedly the norm for most users capturing video on their smartphone (many users will avoid shooting this way despite potential discomfort)<br />
# Not ideal for capturing the background, as our world is mostly a "horizontal plane".<br />
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'''Diagonal orientation'''<br />
# Not a standard format of video, thus "bold and dynamic". {{Citation needed}}<br />
# Equally annoying to all viewers.<br />
# Flawless, as in perfect in every way.{{Dubious}}<br />
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Diagonal angling is commonly known as "oblique angle" or "{{w|Dutch angle}}" in cinema and is often used to portray psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed.<br />
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The title text quip about circular video could be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle, or being spoken to by members of a select or secretive circle of people, hence not trusting anything what is said to you due to perhaps lacking evidence of their motivations, or HAL 9000 from {{w|2001: A Space Odyssey}}. It could also be a reference to Loki in The Avengers, who is the god of trickery and is held at one point in a circular cell. The title text quip may also be a reference to an advertising trope where a talking head in a circle is superimposed over images of the product being advertised, usually this is a the case in low budget productions for "as seen on TV" products.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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:[The image shows three columns by three rows with the following headers:]<br />
:'''Video Orientation'''<br />
:'''Pros'''<br />
:'''Cons'''<br />
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:[First row:]<br />
:[A wide picture with a text above:]<br />
:Horizontal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Looks normal to old people<br />
:*Format used by a century of cinema<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Humans are taller than are wide<br />
:*I'm not turning my phone sideways<br />
<br />
:[Second row:]<br />
:[A tall picture with a text above:]<br />
:Vertical<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*How most normal people shoot and watch video now so we may as well accept it<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Human world is mostly a horizontal plane<br />
<br />
:[Third row:]<br />
:[A picture rotated by 45 degrees with a text above:]<br />
:Diagonal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Bold and dynamic<br />
:*Equally annoying to all viewers<br />
:*Good compromise<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*None<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Compromise]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170579Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-05T20:05:44Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
[[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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'''Anti-Semitic trolling'''<br />
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Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Can you do me a favour and stop censoring my edits? If your position has any merit (it doesn't), you could defeat me in debate (you can't). {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Fuck you, shill. Soon the truth will be revealed, whether you want it to be or not. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.240|162.158.106.240]] 21:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
Please no censorship on comments like this in a talk page unless it's really vandalism. I have reverted the two "deleted troll stuff" remarks back to the original. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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'''Table'''<br />
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may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170578Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-05T19:59:02Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Anti-Semitic trolling */ No censorship</p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
[[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Can you do me a favour and stop censoring my edits? If your position has any merit (it doesn't), you could defeat me in debate (you can't). {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Fuck you, shill. Soon the truth will be revealed, whether you want it to be or not. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.240|162.158.106.240]] 21:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
Please no censorship on comments like this in a talk page unless it's really vandalism. I have reverted the two "deleted troll stuff" remarks back to the original. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Table==<br />
may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170574Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-05T19:52:47Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
::I thought it was something that wasn't planned by the author? But yeah, still makes for an interesting Easter egg. [[User:Herobrine|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:that never would have happened with a circular screen ~ ocæon 01:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think the 50x150 view comment is right. I'd suggest removing it or backing it up with a source. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.146.16|162.158.146.16]] 23:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I feel like there's an awesome joke to be made about Battlefield Earth here...<br />
[[User:Glassvein|Glassvein]] ([[User talk:Glassvein|talk]]) 02:44, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, just '''revert''', do not try to edit it out or you'll miss some little bit stuffed here or there - but look at the revision history before to check out if someone haven't added useful stuff in between troll's edits. In this case you need to edit it out, just be careful. -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.90.150|162.158.90.150]] 17:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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// deleted troll stuff {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::// deleted troll stuff [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.240|162.158.106.240]] 21:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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but guys, the stuff he's saying is '''bold and dynamic''' @_@[[Special:Contributions/172.69.33.23|172.69.33.23]] 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Table==<br />
may the pro con table be replicated and expanded upon? the realworld aplications of horizontal, vertical, diagonal, and circular screens would be comparable the same way. ocæon 01:54, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
: so my first contibution and i screwed up formatting, heh, i have no clues to fixing that.. anyway angular filming with cameras goes well beyond dutchy, nobody else remember early handheld rap music videos? and circular screens also gave a pro which is not yet noted at all please don't make me add it! ocæon 18:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC) {{unsigned|Ocæon}}<br />
::You did start your first line with a space which formats the text as a quote. And please sign your comments with at least <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the sign button at the top of the editor. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"I'm not turning my phone sideways" -- seems like someone never plays any games on his phone. Heck, even docs and sheets are better in horizontal orientation than vertical orientation. As for the "don't trust anyone speaking from inside a circle," it made me think of (1) the little peepholes on doorways to see who's out there and (2) The Oval Office. While that's not technically a circle, it's somewhat related... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.153|162.158.74.153]] 08:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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"The title text quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle" Oh really? You know this how? Google certainly didn't show anything like that; indeed, there was a lot about "circle of trust" and I don't trust this comment. I'd say [citation needed] or change it to "circle of trust". ( DON'T CENSOR ME, MAN! ;^) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.70|162.158.214.70]] 11:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Circle of trust seems to be a clothing brand? I do not see any relevance on that. Nevertheless I think the demon thing should, if at all, be one of few alternative explanations. It might just be a nonsense statement, or could be related to a fisheye objective, binoculars, or to the looking holes in appartment doors. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:07, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170507Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-04T21:19:06Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Can you do me a favour and stop censoring my edits? If your position has any merit (it doesn't), you could defeat me in debate (you can't). {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.6}}<br />
:There is no censorship here. And please do us a favor and sign your comments. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 21:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=1704982119: Video Orientation2019-03-04T20:15:09Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Transcript */</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2119<br />
| date = March 4, 2019<br />
| title = Video Orientation<br />
| image = video_orientation.png<br />
| titletext = CIRCULAR VIDEO - PROS: Solves aspect ratio problem. CONS: Never trust anyone who talks to you from inside a circle.<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|This was created by a TRUSTWORTHY CIRCULAR VIDEO. Nothing about Bold and Dynamic. Bad dubious template. Better explanation on horizontal and vertical needed. DO NOT DELETE THIS TOO SOON (It already was once.}}<br />
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This comic compares different pros and cons of 3 video angles, one of which entirely made-up.<br />
<br />
Horizontal angling is: <br />
<br />
1. Good for people not used to phones, and has been used for centuries. (True)<br />
<br />
2. Not the best at capturing a human's entire body, without also capturing much of their surroundings. (True)<br />
<br />
3. Potentially uncomfortable for the one making the recording to maintain over a long period of time, as most phones were designed for vertical holding. (True)<br />
<br />
4. A more accurate visualization of the way humans view the world; we view approximately 150 degrees horizontally and only 50 degrees vertically. (Not stated in the comic)<br />
<br />
Vertical angling is: <br />
<br />
1. The norm for most users capturing video on their smartphone. (Questionable)<br />
<br />
2. Not ideal for capturing the background. (True, when not used in panoramic view)<br />
<br />
3. Better at capturing the whole body of a human subject. (True)<br />
<br />
4. Is less stressful on the hands of the one holding the mobile recording device. (Questionable)<br />
<br />
[[Randall]] does love a good [https://explainxkcd.com/690/ compromise], so he suggests "Diagonal Angling" as a third option to satisfy the needs of both types of user.<br />
<br />
Diagonal angling is: <br />
<br />
1. Not a standard format of video. {{Citation needed}} (True)<br />
<br />
2. Equally annoying to all viewers. (Almost certainly true)<br />
<br />
3. Flawless, as in perfect in every way. Dubious (False)<br />
<br />
The issue with this is that diagonal angling fails to fully capture the benefits of either horizontal or vertical angling.<br />
<br />
The titletext quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle, hence not trusting anything that would be said to you.<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
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:[The image shows three columns by three rows with the following headers:]<br />
:'''Video Orientation'''<br />
:'''Pros'''<br />
:'''Cons'''<br />
<br />
:[First row:]<br />
:[A wide picture with a text above:]<br />
:Horizontal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Looks normal to old people<br />
:*Format used by a century of cinema<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Humans are taller than are wide<br />
:*I'm not turning my phone sideways<br />
<br />
:[Second row:]<br />
:[A high picture with a text above:]<br />
:Vertical<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*How most normal people shoot and watch video now so we may as well accept it<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*Human world is mostly a horizontal plane<br />
<br />
:[Third row:]<br />
:[A picture rotated by 45 degrees with a text above:]<br />
:Diagonal<br />
:[Pros are:]<br />
:*Bold and dynamic<br />
:*Equally annoying to all viewers<br />
:*Good compromise<br />
:[Cons are:]<br />
:*None<br />
<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Compromise]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=1704972119: Video Orientation2019-03-04T20:05:03Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Explanation */ There is no template like this.</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 2119<br />
| date = March 4, 2019<br />
| title = Video Orientation<br />
| image = video_orientation.png<br />
| titletext = CIRCULAR VIDEO - PROS: Solves aspect ratio problem. CONS: Never trust anyone who talks to you from inside a circle.<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|This was created by a TRUSTWORTHY CIRCULAR VIDEO. Nothing about Bold and Dynamic. Bad dubious template. Better explanation on horizontal and vertical needed. DO NOT DELETE THIS TOO SOON (It already was once.}}<br />
<br />
This comic compares different pros and cons of 3 video angles, one of which entirely made-up.<br />
<br />
Horizontal angling is: <br />
<br />
1. Good for people not used to phones, and has been used for centuries. (True)<br />
<br />
2. Not the best at capturing a human's entire body, without also capturing much of their surroundings. (True)<br />
<br />
3. Potentially uncomfortable for the one making the recording to maintain over a long period of time, as most phones were designed for vertical holding. (True)<br />
<br />
4. A more accurate visualization of the way humans view the world; we view approximately 150 degrees horizontally and only 50 degrees vertically. (Not stated in the comic)<br />
<br />
Vertical angling is: <br />
<br />
1. The norm for most users capturing video on their smartphone. (Questionable)<br />
<br />
2. Not ideal for capturing the background. (True, when not used in panoramic view)<br />
<br />
3. Better at capturing the whole body of a human subject. (True)<br />
<br />
4. Is less stressful on the hands of the one holding the mobile recording device. (Questionable)<br />
<br />
[[Randall]] does love a good [https://explainxkcd.com/690/ compromise], so he suggests "Diagonal Angling" as a third option to satisfy the needs of both types of user.<br />
<br />
Diagonal angling is: <br />
<br />
1. Not a standard format of video. {{Citation needed}} (True)<br />
<br />
2. Equally annoying to all viewers. (Almost certainly true)<br />
<br />
3. Flawless, as in perfect in every way. Dubious (False)<br />
<br />
The issue with this is that diagonal angling fails to fully capture the benefits of either horizontal or vertical angling.<br />
<br />
The titletext quip about circular video would be a reference to having a demon trapped inside a summoning circle, hence not trusting anything that would be said to you.<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable"<br />
|-<br />
! Video Orientation<br />
! Pros<br />
! Cons<br />
|-<br />
| Horizontal<br />
| Looks normal to old people<br />
Format used by a century of cinema<br />
| Humans are taller than are wide<br />
I'm not turning my phone sideways<br />
|-<br />
| Vertical<br />
| How most normal people shoot and watch video now so we may as well accept it<br />
| Human world is mostly a horizontal plane<br />
|-<br />
| Diagonal<br />
| Bold and dynamic<br />
Equally annoying to all viewers<br />
<br />
Good compromise<br />
| None<br />
|}<br />
<br />
{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Compromise]]</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170496Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-04T20:02:51Z<p>Dgbrt: Please sign your comments.</p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg. {{unsigned ip|162.158.38.94}}<br />
<br />
A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
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:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2119:_Video_Orientation&diff=170495Talk:2119: Video Orientation2019-03-04T20:00:05Z<p>Dgbrt: /* Anti-Semitic trolling */</p>
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More readable:I think this could be done with text too.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.64|172.68.154.64]] 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Obligatory prior art in this commentary space: [https://vimeo.com/313458699 Glove and Boots: Vertical Video Syndrome] (apparently they decamped from Youtube to Vimeo last month, the original c. 2013 video was Bt9zSfinwFA). [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 14:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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The title text seems to be a reference to AL, the A.I in ''2001 : A Space Odyssey'' which cause a few problems to the crew and mainly communicate through a round lens. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 14:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Or 2002 movie The Ring [[Special:Contributions/141.101.96.221|141.101.96.221]] 14:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::I presumed it was a reference to summoning circles. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.160|172.69.62.160]] 15:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::My first thought was a reference to Matt Parker of standupmaths and his spherical camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgyI8aPctaI [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.67|162.158.62.67]] 18:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I think the same... Isn't it some Terry Pratchett quote? or may be from other fantasy? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.2|162.158.94.2]] 18:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It was HAL, not AL in Space Odyssey. Move the letters forward one, and it's IBM. Deliberate Easter egg.<br />
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A circular screen is great for that retro-look, like a [https://picclick.com/1950s-ZENITH-PORTHOLE-Television-18-Circular-TV-Screen-113317154719.html 1950's Zenith Porthole TV]. I seem to remember seeing circular screens on some really old sci-fi shows as well. As well as one use of a [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThisIslandEarth triangular screen]. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 14:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I thought the circular format was a reference to SnapChat's camera glasses and people's mistrust of "surveillance glasses". I am probably wrong. [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Fails in the obvious- Horizontal is better because you can send the video in to the TV news for your 15 seconds of fame without looking like a douche who doesn't know how to rotate their phone. And why isn't there a setting for "always landscape" anyway?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:I have to agree... the fact that most non-mobile screens are oriented horizontally being left out was kind of a big miss. A vertical video looks like crap on a TV or Computer Monitor (Ironically unless it's an old 3:4 one, where the difference is a lot more minor.) -Graptor [[Special:Contributions/172.69.62.220|172.69.62.220]] 15:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Ironically, when I first read the comic on my phone (portrait), I did not realise there was a third "CONS" column. [[User:ColinHogben|ColinHogben]] ([[User talk:ColinHogben|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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Not that good of an explanation, even if I wrote some of it. Actually, especially since I wrote some of it. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 16:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks 90.10 [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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I have never had problems holding my smartphone in landscape, or my camera in portrait. I just can't understand the use of portrait to film anything but one for two people's faces just because you hold the device that way to make a phone call (on the v rare occasion they do). Hey but I was born in the 50's [[User:RIIW - Ponder it|RIIW - Ponder it]] ([[User talk:RIIW - Ponder it|talk]]) 18:57, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Semitic trolling ==<br />
Edited to remove the anti-Semitic tag and content. {{unsigned|Elusis}}<br />
:Dealing with the same thing. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe we should replace the Google CAPTCHA with an IQ test? That should get rid of the 5-year old troll.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.226.171|172.69.226.171]] 18:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::But then they’d say IQ was rigged by the communistic jewish theocracy. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::This replies aren't helpful. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for removing that content, but please do not remove the entire incomplete tag that soon. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
My advice for now: Just revert that content silently, that unregistered user always has to solve a captcha while a registered user easily can revert it. Without any discussion that IP will get tired sooner or later. Nonetheless many thanks to everybody keeping an eye on this destructive edits. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrthttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category_talk:Noindexed_pages&diff=170493Category talk:Noindexed pages2019-03-04T19:40:33Z<p>Dgbrt: </p>
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<div>Frankie is still here. Actually, now it’s the discussion, too. [[User:Netherin5|Netherin5]] ([[User talk:Netherin5|talk]]) 19:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)<br />
:The user Frankie uses <nowiki>__NOINDEX__</nowiki> at his user page. So it's absolutely correct that it's shown up in this category. Any problems? --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)</div>Dgbrt