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<p>Waldir: filename not needed</p> <hr /> <div>:''See also: [[List of unexplained comics]]''<br /> <br /> This is the list of comics from '''1001 till date'''.<br /> :For the first 500 comics, see [[List of all comics (1-500)]].<br /> :For comics 501-1000, see [[List of all comics (501-1000)]].<br /> :The whole list is available at [[List of all comics (full)]].<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable sortable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |+ Comics<br /> |-<br /> !xkcd<br /> !Title<br /> !Redirects<br /> !Image<br /> !Date&lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{comicsrow|1211|2013-05-13|Birds and Dinosaurs}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1210|2013-05-10|I'm So Random|im_so_random.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1209|2013-05-08|Encoding}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1208|2013-05-06|Footnote Labyrinths}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1207|2013-05-03|AirAware}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1206|2013-05-01|Einstein}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1205|2013-04-29|Is It Worth the Time?|is_it_worth_the_time.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1204|2013-04-26|Detail}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1203|2013-04-24|Time Machines}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1202|2013-04-22|Girls and Boys}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1201|2013-04-19|Integration by Parts}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1200|2013-04-17|Authorization}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1199|2013-04-15|Silence}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1198|2013-04-12|Geologist}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1197|2013-04-10|All Adobe Updates}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1196|2013-04-08|Subways}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1195|2013-04-05|Flowchart}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1194|2013-04-03|Stratigraphic Record}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1193|2013-04-01|Externalities}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1192|2013-03-29|Humming}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1191|2013-03-27|The Past}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1190|2013-03-25|Time}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1189|2013-03-22|Voyager 1}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1188|2013-03-20|Bonding}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1187|2013-03-18|Aspect Ratio}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1186|2013-03-15|Bumblebees}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1185|2013-03-13|Ineffective Sorts}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1184|2013-03-11|Circumference Formula}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1183|2013-03-08|Rose Petals}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1182|2013-03-06|Rembrandt Photo}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1181|2013-03-04|PGP}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1180|2013-03-01|Virus Venn Diagram}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1179|2013-02-27|ISO 8601}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1178|2013-02-25|Pickup Artists}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1177|2013-02-22|Time Robot}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1176|2013-02-20|Those Not Present}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1175|2013-02-18|Moving Sidewalks}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1174|2013-02-15|App}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1173|2013-02-13|Steroids}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1172|2013-02-11|Workflow}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1171|2013-02-08|Perl Problems}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1170|2013-02-06|Bridge}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1169|2013-02-04|Expedition}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1168|2013-02-01|tar}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1167|2013-01-30|Star Trek into Darkness}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1166|2013-01-28|Argument}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1165|2013-01-25|Amazon}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1164|2013-01-23|Home Alone}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1163|2013-01-21|Debugger}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1162|2013-01-18|Log Scale}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1161|2013-01-16|Hand Sanitizer}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1160|2013-01-14|Drop Those Pounds}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1159|2013-01-11|Countdown}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1158|2013-01-09|Rubber Sheet}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1157|2013-01-07|Sick Day}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1156|2013-01-04|Conditioning}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1155|2013-01-02|Kolmogorov Directions}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1154|2012-12-31|Resolution}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1153|2012-12-28|Proof}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1152|2012-12-26|Communion}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1151|2012-12-24|Tests}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1150|2012-12-21|Instagram}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1149|2012-12-19|Broomstick}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1148|2012-12-17|Nothing to Offer}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1147|2012-12-14|Evolving}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1146|2012-12-12|Honest}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1145|2012-12-10|Sky Color}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1144|2012-12-07|Tags}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1143|2012-12-05|Location}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1142|2012-12-03|Coverage}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1141|2012-11-30|Two Years}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1140|2012-11-28|Calendar of Meaningful Dates}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1139|2012-11-26|Rubber and Glue}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1138|2012-11-23|Heatmap}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1137|2012-11-21|RTL}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1136|2012-11-19|Broken Mirror}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1135|2012-11-16|Arachnoneurology}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1134|2012-11-14|Logic Boat}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1133|2012-11-12|Up Goer Five}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1132|2012-11-09|Frequentists vs. Bayesians|frequentists_vs_bayesians.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1131|2012-11-07|Math}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1130|2012-11-05|Poll Watching}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1129|2012-11-02|Cell Number}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1128|2012-10-31|Fifty Shades}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1127|2012-10-29|Congress}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1126|2012-10-26|Epsilon and Zeta}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1125|2012-10-24|Objects In Mirror}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1124|2012-10-22|Law of Drama}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1123|2012-10-19|The Universal Label}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1122|2012-10-17|Electoral Precedent}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1121|2012-10-15|Identity}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1120|2012-10-12|Blurring the Line}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1119|2012-10-10|Undoing}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1118|2012-10-08|Microsoft}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1117|2012-10-05|My Sky}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1116|2012-10-03|Traffic Lights|traffic_lights.gif}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1115|2012-10-01|Sky}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1114|2012-09-28|Metallurgy}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1113|2012-09-26|Killed in Action}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1112|2012-09-24|Think Logically}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1111|2012-09-21|Premiere}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1110|2012-09-19|Click and Drag}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1109|2012-09-17|Refrigerator}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1108|2012-09-14|Cautionary Ghost}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1107|2012-09-12|Sports Cheat Sheet}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1106|2012-09-10|ADD}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1105|2012-09-07|License Plate}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1104|2012-09-05|Feathers}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1103|2012-09-03|Nine}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1102|2012-08-31|Fastest-Growing|fastest_growing.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1101|2012-08-27|Sketchiness}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1100|2012-08-27|Vows}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1099|2012-08-24|Tuesdays}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1098|2012-08-22|Star Ratings}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1097|2012-08-20|A Hypochondriac's Nightmare|a_hypochondriacs_nightmare.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1096|2012-08-17|Clinically Studied Ingredient}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1095|2012-08-15|Crazy Straws}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1094|2012-08-13|Interview}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1093|2012-08-10|Forget}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1092|2012-08-08|Michael Phelps}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1091|2012-08-06|Curiosity}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1090|2012-08-03|Formal Languages}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1089|2012-08-01|Internal Monologue}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1088|2012-07-30|Five Years}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1087|2012-07-27|Cirith Ungol}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1086|2012-07-25|Eyelash Wish Log}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1085|2012-07-23|ContextBot}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1084|2012-07-20|Server Problem}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1083|2012-07-18|Writing Styles}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1082|2012-07-16|Geology}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1081|2012-07-13|Argument Victory}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1080|2012-07-11|Visual Field}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1079|2012-07-09|United Shapes}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1078|2012-07-06|Knights}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1077|2012-07-04|Home Organization}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1076|2012-07-02|Groundhog Day}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1075|2012-06-29|Warning}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1074|2012-06-27|Moon Landing}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1073|2012-06-25|Weekend}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1072|2012-06-22|Seventies}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1071|2012-06-20|Exoplanets}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1070|2012-06-18|Words for Small Sets}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1069|2012-06-15|Alphabet}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1068|2012-06-13|Swiftkey}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1067|2012-06-11|Pressures}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1066|2012-06-08|Laundry}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1065|2012-06-06|Shoes}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1064|2012-06-04|Front Door}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1063|2012-06-01|Kill Hitler}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1062|2012-05-30|Budget News}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1061|2012-05-28|EST}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1060|2012-05-25|Crowdsourcing}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1059|2012-05-23|Bel-Air|bel_air.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1058|2012-05-21|Old-Timers|old_timers.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1057|2012-05-18|Klout}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1056|2012-05-16|Felidae}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1055|2012-05-14|Kickstarter}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1054|2012-05-11|The bacon|thebacon.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1053|2012-05-09|Ten Thousand}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1052|2012-05-07|Every Major's Terrible|every_majors_terrible.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1051|2012-05-04|Visited}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1050|2012-05-02|Forgot Algebra}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1049|2012-04-30|Bookshelf}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1048|2012-04-27|Emotion}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1047|2012-04-25|Approximations}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1046|2012-04-23|Skynet}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1045|2012-04-20|Constraints}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1044|2012-04-18|Romney 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{{comicsrow|1005|2012-01-18|SOPA}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1004|2012-01-16|Batman}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1003|2012-01-13|Adam and Eve}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1002|2012-01-11|Game AIs}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1001|2012-01-09|AAAAAA}}&lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Comics| ]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hairy 2013-05-10T22:42:01Z

<p>Waldir: Undo revision 36938 by 146.115.129.252: that's not the pickup-artist Hairy.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Infobox character<br /> | image = Hairy.png<br /> | imagesize = 50px<br /> | caption = As seen in [[1178: Pickup Artists]]<br /> | first_appearance = [[237: Keyboards are Disgusting]] &lt;!-- not sure, but that's the earliest one I could find --&gt;<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Hairy''' is a [[stick figure]] character in [[xkcd]]. The name is unofficial, used by [[explain xkcd]]ers to describe male characters with hair and no other distinguishing features.<br /> <br /> Like [[Cueball]], Hairy is not a single character but a categorization of various one-time characters. One Hairy, a learning pickup artist, has appeared in two comics ([[1027]] and [[1178]]).<br /> <br /> {{navbox-characters}}</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_all_comics_(full) 2013-05-10T18:11:22Z

<p>Waldir: avoid extra line also in the header (with the neat side-effect of aligning the transclusions :D)</p> <hr /> <div>:''See also: [[List of unexplained comics]]''<br /> <br /> This is the whole list of comics.<br /> :For the first 500 comics, see [[List of all comics (1-500)]].<br /> :For comics 501-1000, see [[List of all comics (501-1000)]].<br /> :For comics from 1001 till date, see [[List of all comics]].<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable sortable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |+ Comics<br /> |-<br /> !xkcd<br /> !Title<br /> !Redirects<br /> !Image<br /> !Date&lt;!-- avoid extra line<br /> --&gt;{{:List of all comics}}&lt;!-- avoid extra line<br /> --&gt;{{:List of all comics (501-1000)}}&lt;!-- avoid extra line<br /> --&gt;{{:List of all comics (1-500)}}<br /> |}</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=285:_Wikipedian_Protester 2013-05-10T18:02:18Z

<p>Waldir: Undo revision 36848 by TheOriginalSoni. Please, no inside jokes, recursive puns, etc.</p> <hr /> <div>{{comic<br /> | number = 285<br /> | date = July 4, 2007<br /> | title = Wikipedian Protester<br /> | image = wikipedian_protester.png<br /> | titletext = SEMI-PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Explanation==<br /> In this comic, [[Cueball]] holds up a sign showing {{w|Wikipedia:Citation needed|CITATION NEEDED}} during a political speech. The sign text is a Wikipedia template placed next to a statement that needs a citation, usually because of questionable validity. Cueball is obviously using this template to challenge the politician's speech.<br /> <br /> The title text references {{w|Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy|semi-protection}}, a protection measure typical of Wikipedia, which basically protects some content from being anonymously edited.<br /> <br /> [[Randall]] re-licensed this comic under [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license] so that it could be {{w|File:Webcomic xkcd - Wikipedian protester.png|used on Wikipedia}}. (By default, xkcd is licensed under [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ CC-BY-NC 2.5], which is considered too restrictive for Wikipedia files.)<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> :[There is a politician speaking at a podium, which sports an American flag.]<br /> :[In front of the speaker there is a crowd of people listening. In the middle of the crowd a man is standing up holding a sign reading &quot;[CITATION NEEDED]&quot; in blue underlined text, as in Wikipedia articles.]<br /> <br /> {{comic discussion}}<br /> [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br /> [[Category:Comics with color]]<br /> [[Category:Wikipedia]]<br /> [[Category:CC-BY-SA comics]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals 2013-05-09T11:09:38Z

<p>Waldir: Great job, thanks! (Assisted)</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> == Add unexplained strips ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, browsing through the explanations using the previous and next buttons is interrupted whenever there's an explanation missing.<br /> <br /> I think adding a page with the strip fr all of those with a short message like &quot;no one has explained this yet, want to give it a shot?&quot; would make the wiki easier to browse through and will get more strips explained faster.<br /> <br /> :I don't think that would happen. If suddenly it was much easier for people to skip over pages that had no explanation, I think they would do exactly that, skip right over it. On the same side of that coin, If suddenly there are no longer any red links on the [[List of all comics]] then everyone perusing that page assumes that all the comics have been explained and don't need to contribute any more. It's astonishing how quickly an [[589: Designated Drivers|embedded]] red link gets an explanation page created simply to get rid of the red link.<br /> <br /> :Secondarily, ''many'' of the pages created recently aren't being created with their numerical and titular redirects. Without the numerical redirect, the comic template can't find that there is a previous/next comic to link to. Every once in a while somebody will go through and try to notice all the pages that don't have their redirects created but it's an unscientific process that only happens occasionally. If we could get every joe blow that comes in and vomits up a poorly done explanation to create the redirects I wouldn't be quite as annoyed at their lack of show-don't-tell-manship. But, since they can't be bothered to put the date in the comic template, I doubt we'll ever get people to create the redirects.<br /> <br /> :'''TL;DR:''' No more red links, no more work gets done on the back catalog.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 14:28, 21 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xplainkcd.com ==<br /> <br /> When I first saw this site I thought it should definitely be at xplainkcd.com or at least redirect from that url {{unsigned|115.166.22.158|12:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> : I like that idea! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah! If it's possible, it would be cool! At least as a redirect. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Section style and usage ==<br /> <br /> I am new here and I'm trying to get up to speed with the culture. I have a few questions about how and where to use sections (== this ==). I am more willing to go with (and enforce) whatever norms there are here, but I have not seen them actually discussed. <br /> <br /> # '''Is it OK to create sections in Discussion pages?''' I have been told no, but there are many examples extant of this usage in this Wiki and indeed in Wikipedia.<br /> # '''Section title case''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Acronyms Wikipedia's style guide] recommends sentence case, not title case. There are many title cased section headers here. <br /> # '''Links''' I do not have a reference for this but it seems to me putting links in section code (== [[&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;this&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] == ) is bad form. <br /> <br /> Last note -- it's understood if these bylaws have not yet been written. I can see that a few of you have made a huge personal investment to make this Wiki what it is today, and that is a credit to you all -- this is awesome! As a long-time aficionado of xkcd I applaud your work and look forward to further collaboration.<br /> --[[User:Smartin|Smartin]] ([[User talk:Smartin|talk]]) 04:15, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As a general rule, we stick to the standard format that existing pages follow, with an optional trivia section below the transcript. Some zealous editors like to add other sections though, which tend to be for the most part unneeded or redundant. If something you want to add doesn't help to explain the comic in some way, but the inclusion of which would somehow still add to the page, *and* it doesn't fall under the trivia category, a new section is warranted. This isn't the case most of the time though, so editors usually fold the content of extraneous sections into &quot;Explanation&quot; or &quot;Trivia.&quot; We have no policy on links in titles, and they're allowed so long as they are appropriate; the link is useful and can't be folded into the section itself. And we use title case for titles cuz it just makes sense. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We generally do not (or at least, discourage) use sections on the talk/discussion pages for explanation pages. This is purely for looks. The comic discussion section of the explanation page looks/feels wrong if there are level 2 section breaks in the transclusion. Also, if the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Table_of_contents Table of Contents] starts showing up on a page, such as on [[Click and Drag]] the sections created on the talk page also show up in the TOC. This gets confusing, and this is why we prefer not to use them on explanation talk pages. Everywhere else we follow standard wiki format and do use sections on the discussion pages.<br /> <br /> :Personally, I think that links in section titles looks wrong, but I choose not to be the dictator of style in this matter. :p<br /> <br /> :Please feel free to make edits. The worst that happens is someone reverts your edit. If it's a big enough issue and/or you don't seem to be learning from what people are fixing about your edits someone will leave a comment on your talk page. That's it. We might leave a nasty-gram in the edit summary, but oh well. We only ban for malicious intent. Honestly working to better the wiki is good, even if sometimes we grumble about it.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh, I just looked at your talk page. I completely forgot that that happened. Don't worry about it. Learning the ropes is part of the experience. Do make edits, and if they're wrong, we'll nudge you in the right direction. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I have been moving some trivia sections to directly below the explanation, in order to make it more consistent, and easier to survey and maintain. Often the dividing line between trivia and explanation is not entirely clear, and in articles without a trivia section the end of the explanation very often contains trivia-like information. (e.g. [[1155: Kolmogorov Directions]]) -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protip ==<br /> <br /> Anyone for adding ''Protip'' as a [[:Category:Comic series|Comic series]]. I have found five so far: [[653]], [[711]], [[1022]], [[1047]] and [[1156]]. (There are also a few comics with a protip title text.) -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think that qualifies as a recurring topic (thus worthy of a category), but not as a series, where you can see a clear sequence. In fact, [[:Category:My Hobby|My Hobby]] has the same limitation, for what I suggest it to be removed from [[:Category:Comic series]]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Seconded. Looks general and common enough to be a category. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Okay, great! Do you think that the ones with a &quot;protip:&quot; title text should be included? Besides, I think I might be the one responsiple for moving My Hobby from [[:Category:Comics by topic|Comics by topic]] to Comic series. I felt that all the My Hobby comics were about different topics, but maybe i've got to narrow an interpretation of the word &quot;topic&quot;. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Can you link to the protip-in-title-text comics?<br /> :::: As for My Hobby, note that categories aren't mutually exclusive. They can be in the &quot;my hobby&quot; topic, and each of them further categorized as appropriate: music, math, etc. Makes sense? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: I just searched for protip in the xkcd search bar. Here: [[1084]], [[427]]. And yes, makes sense. I've moved My Hobby back to &quot;by topic&quot;. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Category: Sports ==<br /> <br /> How about creating a new &quot;Sports&quot; category? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 15:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Well, maybe. Everyone aren't so keen on new categories here. Which comics are you thinking of, for a start? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 20:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::We definitely need to reach an agreement as a community on when to create new categories. Something simple like a minimum of 3 (or, say, 5) existing comics. Since we're already at the proposals' portal... what do you guys think about that? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::My opinion: Five would be enough to qualify. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 09:31, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I vote for four. But it should also be a reasonable thing to categorize, like sports, not like &quot;sports with Cueball containing at least three anagram words&quot;. Wich sholdn't be a problem. :) But the best name choice could be tricky sometimes. e.g. &quot;Film &amp; television&quot;, Film &amp; TV&quot;, &quot;Film&quot;, &quot;Films&quot;, or &quot;Movies&quot;? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::<br /> ::::Agreed, five should be enough to create the category without having to discuss it. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> : OK, let's start with [[588: Pep Rally|588]], [[1092: Michael Phelps|1092]], [[904: Sports|904]] and [[1107: Sports Cheat Sheet|1107]]. Should be able to find a few more. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 05:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, it's a broad subject so there are probably several more. -[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::I found another one, sort of, in [[929:Speculation|929]] (although it hasn't been explained yet). Should I get the ball rolling (no pun intended) on setting up the category? Don't wanna do it unilaterally and get yelled at. ;) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 06:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think you should. On a wiki, getting stuck in discussions which die without a conclusion, to the point that motivated people give up without having done anything, is definitely counter-productive, and phrases like [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|Wikipedia:Be bold]] are here to remind us of that. Seems like people agreed that you ''could'', and after a while nobody said that you ''shouldn't'', so I'd say do it. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Category: Sex ==<br /> <br /> I think we should also create a Sex category. There's no ''doubt'' we can find more than three examples. I'll start looking for them and post the ones I find in here; again, I don't wanna create a large category by myself without community consent. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 09:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> *OK, the ones for Category: Sex that I've found so far are [[443]], [[219]], [[550]], [[1026]], [[575]], [[468]], [[592]], [[320]], [[1101]], [[417]], [[713]], [[672]], [[230]], [[436]], [[940]], [[532]], [[649]], [[176]], [[1006]], [[596]] and [[717]], and I'm sure there are many more. Should we create this category? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 23:17, 3 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Same as [[#Category: Sports|above]], do it. Oh, already did; well, all the better. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==New character==<br /> As per [[Talk:1178: Pickup Artists]], the character with hair has appeared in quite a few comics now, and he's starting to become a recurring character. Shall we go ahead with inaugurating him into our list of regular characters, and what name shall we assign him? Current candidate names include Hairy and Harry. Anyone? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 00:07, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I like Harry :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 01:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Cos made a point in the discussion on [[Talk:1178: Pickup Artists]] that Hairy is directly descriptive, whereas Harry is not obvious to visitors. On the other hand, not all names are descriptive ([[Danish]]) and I think this wiki is entitled to create some xkcd-in-culture, and not just describe. And Harry is quite funny.<br /> ::I wonder: has [[Randall]] ever called him anything at all in the transcript? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, he's not named in a any official transcripts, but he's already called Harry in quite a few comic explanations. Then again, I do like having a more descriptive name for him. Shall we hold this up to a vote? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think we should wait a little for a few more viewpoints to crop up. Also, can someone link to some more comics he's been featured in? I've got [[1028: Communication]], [[1027: Pickup Artist]] and [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 23:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::I actually like what that anon said: ''Curly''. Second choice: Hairy (being descriptive, a la Black Hat, Beret, Cueball, etc.) While there's talk about in-culture, we've done that with the names Cueball, Beret, etc. It's my opinion that the only names that should be &quot;real&quot; proper names are those that are named in the comic. Megan, Miss Lenhart, etc. Danish (as is discussed below) isn't truly a proper name, but you could argue it's a meta-description (one attributed by Black hat.) So that's my vote: yes for '''Curly''' or '''Hairy''', no for Harry. [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::That's right, [[Danish]] is not descriptive, but 1/ that name was suggested because the character [[515: No One Must Know|was called that way in the comic]], which is a tiny bit like a name given by the author (at least more than Harry which we have completely made up), and 2/ in that case it's hard to find a descriptive term: use something that revolves around her black hair (her only descriptive feature), and you easily mix up with [[Megan]]; the only graphical difference is that her hair is ''long'', but what kind of name can you make out of that?<br /> :::For this new character, I suggest Hairy because it comes as the easy solution with every advantage: descriptive, easy to understand, and it's not ugly... I actually see no reason to resort to a made-up name like Harry.<br /> :::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 22:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : '''Alright. So the discussion's been had, and the most oft recommended name appears to be Hairy. All in favor, say aye. If more than 1/3 of editors agree and we have more than 6 votes, Hairy it is.''' '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' [[User:Guru-45|Guru-45]] ([[User talk:Guru-45|talk]]) 06:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' to Hairy. [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. Harry would be a nice nod to the fact that he's actually hairy, but indeed it's better to avoid inside jokes. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. I'm convinced! –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 17:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. Hairy. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Hooray! We now have a [[:Category:Comics featuring Hairy]], with four pages already! Does anyone feel compelled to create &quot;[[Hairy]]&quot;, with a brief description and a nice profile pic like the other characters? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:58, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ambiguous characters ==<br /> <br /> I've been thinking about the problem of the ambiguity of characters. &quot;Is this really Cueball even though he has an eye and half a nose?&quot;, &quot;This is very likely ''not'' x.&quot; &quot;Darnit, these arn't Cueballs, these are Randall and his friends!&quot;, and so on. The character ambiguity is standard for xkcd (not less so in the early ones), and comes from the very loose or &quot;free&quot; way Randall uses his characters to be whatever he needs at the moment. It's simply often impossible for us to know whether he had e.g. &quot;Cueball&quot; or himself in mind, when drawing a particular comic (and I'd say: probably often both).<br /> <br /> I want to suggest that we in general have a likewise rather loose policy towards including characters in the categories for the comics. So that reasonably ambiguous cases should be included in e.g. [[Category: Comics featuring Ponytail]] (does she have a ponytail?) This is not because I believe this or that to really be this or that; I just don't believe in objective truth (here!). I feel that when doing research :) on a character, the borderline cases are often the most interesting ones, and you want to be able to find them through the &quot;Comics featuring miss x&quot;!<br /> <br /> I came to think this through now, when I wanted to (and did) list two comics with [[Miss Lenhart]] (?) where she was drawn but not named. Any thoughts on this in general? Other case studies? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :My take has always been that [[Cueball]], for example, has not been a specific character. There is not ''a'' cueball, per se, distinct from any other cueball... indeed, there are several comics with several cueballs in-frame, and that is the point. I see the cueball character as a wildcard character (pun intended) ready to stand in for anybody (and ''not'' necessarily just Randall; I think those readers who suggest &quot;this ''is'' Randall&quot; are missing the point; he's way more META than that...) [[Megan]], while slightly less generic, still remains the female wild-card significant-other, while Curls seems to be a not-significant-other female used to illustrate a relationship that is transient. Other characters come and go, and when it's important to visually distinguish them from others in the frame, they're given additional characteristics, to wit [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], etc.<br /> :Unfortunately, that viewpoint is not commonly held, so I daresay I'm in the minority here.<br /> :-- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Note at the top, about the server error ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread was moved to [[MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice]]''<br /> <br /> == Category: Flowcharts ==<br /> <br /> Hello, the line &quot;Randall has made use of flowcharts before.&quot; in today's comic explanation made me want a [[:Category:Flowcharts|flowcharts category]] to navigate into...<br /> <br /> As it didn't exist, I proceeded to create it, but as the log says, [[User:lcarsos|lcarsos]] deleted such a category in November, saying ''&quot;Insufficient differentiation from Category:Comics with charts, diluting the depth of comics tagged charts&quot;''.<br /> <br /> I don't agree with that, and I think we could profit from such a subcategory. I found those pages fitting it:<br /> * [[94: Profile Creation Flowchart]]<br /> * [[210: 90's Flowchart]]<br /> * [[488: Steal This Comic]]<br /> * [[627: Tech Support Cheat Sheet]]<br /> * [[844: Good Code]]<br /> * [[851: Na]]<br /> * [[854: Learning to Cook]]<br /> * [[1195: Flowchart]]<br /> <br /> So? - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 10:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Weell if you're willing to take charge of the category and personally make sure it's added to all relevant comic explanations, go ahead. The usual objection to making new categories is that we admins can't remember all the categories when we're reviewing new explanations, but it's K if you're willing to take up that responsibility yourself. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> :: OK. I did it without waiting for further replies, because I think it will be especially profitable today (to viewers).<br /> :: It doesn't seem a big issue to me if the correct category is not added when a new explanation is made: a passing editor will do it later on... But hey, I'm OK with taking special care of adding pages to this category.<br /> :: [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 12:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I just want to add that Cos' view is indeed the appropriate way to work in wikis: there is no concept of a single author for a page, category, or piece of text, and the workload is meant to be distributed among several editors: it is not necessary that any single editor remembers all existing categories, or knows the wiki markup by heart, or knows how to work with all the features of mediawiki, etc. The reason why wikis can be edited by anyone is precisely a recognition that there *will* be errors and any page can be improved somehow. That reasoning against categories should, IMO, be abandoned, or at most only kept as the opinion of some editors. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 22:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Isnt there a page which lists all the categories? If not, there should be one, and it should be accessible to all. Such a page could be useful when trying to quick-add categories to comics. [[Special:Contributions/117.194.83.155|117.194.83.155]] 13:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, there is. [[Special:Categories]]. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:07, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> This does move it to above the line, and the rule stops early. Undo my change if that's more bothering than when the TOC is displayed as &quot;add a comment!Discussion&quot;... <br /> <br /> I don't know how to automatically treat level 2 headers as level 3. That may be why Discussion was a level 1 heading earlier.<br /> [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Actually I now noticed there was a short edit war at {{tl|comic discussion}} over whether it should be a level 1 heading, just for this reason. [[User:Waldir]] seems to have conceeded... [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:25, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: No edit war, hence no (intentional) concession. I reverted a change once, and didn't notice the change being re-implemented by another user. In any case, it is irrelevant now since we actively discourage using headers in talk pages precisely so that they don't display in the TOC for the main comic page, where the discussion page is transcluded to (see the discussion [[#Section style and usage|above]]). This might not scale well for comics that generate lots of discussion. It might be worth discussing our customs (and perhaps write them down somewhere) before performing such changes. What do others think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:49, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Time: The Table ==<br /> <br /> Right now on the page [[1190: Time]], we have a whole bunch of tables in the form image-time-hash. The tables take up heaps of vertical space and all have to be collapsed to even be remotely traversible. I propose that we aggregate all the images into one table after Time ends, like so:<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> |-<br /> |[[Media:time.png|00:00]]||01/00:00||[[Media:time.png|10:00]]||01/10:00||[[Media:time.png|20:00]]||01/20:00||[[Media:time.png|30:00]]||AND MOAR SAMPLE DATAS<br /> |-<br /> |[[Media:time.png|00:30]]||01/00:30||[[Media:time.png|10:30]]||01/10:30||[[Media:time.png|20:30]]||01/20:30||[[Media:time.png|30:30]]||AND MOAR SAMPLE DATAS<br /> |}<br /> <br /> The hash values aren't really a part of the comic, they're gibberish for the most part and they take up space that could be used to compact the table, as shown above. Even if we are conservative and make the table only five columns wide to account for smaller screens, we've divided scrolling time by five and eliminated much of the need for annoying collapsed tables and section headers for each day. Constructing the table shouldn't be particularly hard either, as all our current data is in nice regular tables with clear patterns that are easy enough to parse through. <br /> <br /> I'm putting this here because the organization of the frame entries would be unintuitive and difficult to change from the edit window, which would make it a poor choice when we're still expanding it and don't even know how long the comic will continue for. It's merely a space-saving trick for after we're sure that the comic is over. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 09:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh and it'd be really nice if other people could also upload images if you're awake and a new one rolls by. There's gaps in the image record every time I wake up, and I dun likey. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:34, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Good work so far; go ahead make it better! :) –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Featured Explanation, and Archival?==<br /> <br /> * Wikipedia has featured content. Now that we are close to reaching the goal of all comics explained, I think it makes more sense to have a &quot;featured explanation&quot; which would serve as a sort of a marker for a complete and good explanation. Many comics, and almost all charts are not fully explained/not a good quality explanation.<br /> <br /> * We should set up archival of discussion of the most discussed pages, like this one. Its not very pleasing to see comments from July 2012 still lying around here. It becomes hectic at some point.<br /> <br /> Just my 2 cents, feel free to discuss. Cheers,<br /> [[Special:Contributions/117.194.88.180|117.194.88.180]] 13:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We dedicate this wiki to explaining xkcd, and we do actually have a featured comic feature; it changes every week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and we usually manage to fill out the explanation for it within an hour or so of it going up. The most recent comic tends to be the one that most people visiting the wiki care about, so we give it prime space on the front page so they can find it easily. xkcd updates frequently enough that there isn't really that big of a time window for us to feature an article on our front page. Also, we're a volunteer project with quite a bit less manpower than Wikipedia.<br /> :We do need to archive talk pages though. Some of these are getting ridiculously long. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree with Davidy22. Archiving topics can be done by anyone, by moving resolved threads to the portal section's corresponding [[explain xkcd talk:Community portal/Proposals|talk page]]. We could start with the threads marked &quot;✓ Closed&quot;. [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason I asked for a &quot;featured explanation&quot; was because many of the comic explanations we currently have are sub-par, and we're almost at our initial goal of explaining all comics. A &quot;featured explanation&quot; would drive our editors towards the goal of having complete and good explanation towards all comics, and would allow us to know which explanations need elaboration.<br /> :: P.S. My definition of complete explanation would be - To have a good explanation, To have all categories relevant, To link to any comics related and To explain any technical portions of the comic.<br /> :: [[Special:Contributions/117.194.82.49|117.194.82.49]] 07:45, 8 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::That message on the front page is going to link to all the pages marked by the incomplete template. If you find an unsatisfactory explanation, please mark it with &lt;nowiki&gt;{{incomplete}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 07:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: By my definition, I think all comics will be incomplete. An incomplete template will be focused more towards improving the worst explanations, while a featured one will be to improve the best ones. Since we already have the former, we should focus on the latter. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/117.194.85.82|117.194.85.82]] 06:55, 9 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Split the list of all comics ==<br /> <br /> [[List of all comics]] is getting larger and larger, which makes it hard to read and hard to edit. How about splitting into parts, say [[List of all comics/1-1000]], [[List of all comics/1001-2000]], etc., or something to that effect? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Done. [[Special:Contributions/117.194.88.176|117.194.88.176]] 10:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Great job, thanks! [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sidebar ads ==<br /> <br /> ''Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]] –– [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 08:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> Are they generating significant money? The ones I see are pretty sleazy looking and/or scammy - &quot;Power Companies Hate this Device! - click here to break the laws of thermodynamics!&quot; and &quot;Debt relief program click here to lose more money&quot;. How much money are they generating? Can you set any selections to remove the sleazy ads? [[User:J-beda|J-beda]] ([[User talk:J-beda|talk]]) 18:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Do we have sleazy sidebar ads? Since when? Thanks Google Chrome and AdBlock, I had no idea! –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 07:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::People give 20$ a pop to get a bunch of clicks on explainxkcd, and Jeff uses that money to buy a faster server with a hard drive that doesn't have less space than a public toilet with an elephant in it. It'd be really nice if you didn't turn on adblock, the money is appreciated. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::It's a question of me not turning it off specifically every time I visit this site. More importantly, I do think people would be more likely to click the &quot;donate&quot; if it weren't irrelevant ads around it. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 19:29, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Generating money is a great thing. Getting &quot;20$ a pop to get a bunch of clicks&quot; is a bit unclear. Do the ads only generate revenue when clicked on? So EXKCD only gets money when someone actually falls for the sleazy ads? I know lots of people do not like Google - but at least their adsense stuff is relevant to the content of the website, which might generate some legitimate traffic for a legitimate advertiser.... [[User:J-beda|J-beda]] ([[User talk:J-beda|talk]]) 11:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::Welllll, I didn't pick the ad supplier. You could bring it up with [[User talk:Jeff|Jeff]] if you want, I think he picked the ad provider on basis of which one had a mediawiki plugin or something. If you can link Jeff to a quick and easy way to put adsense on mediawiki, he should change it quickly enough. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:21, 19 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::And I also gather then that they are only a temporary thing? -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 08:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Until we can buy a server that doesn't poop itself every time a new comic is released, the ads are staying. If you want them to go away sooner, throw more money at Jeff. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 09:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: The ads are crap. For sure. Wish I didn't have to run them, but I don't trust donations alone to hold up continually some better hosting. The ads really don't bring in that much $$$. I had google adsense before, but Google shutdown my adsense account for unnamed reason after 1 week. This new ad service is way sketchier. If you all think they don't have a place here, I'll ax 'em. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Thanks for the info Jeff. How much ad money are we talking about? Is it calculated on how many ads are displayed or how many are clicked-through? How close to the goal is the server fund? How about a Kickstarter campaign for the server? $10 gets your name on a thankyou webpage or something like that. [[User:J-beda|J-beda]] ([[User talk:J-beda|talk]]) 17:32, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: It ain't much, last I looked it was $2 or $3 in 2 weeks. I believe it is based on clicks, it is not nearly as clear as Google adsense. I'm not really interested in doing a Kickstarter. I think the donations will cover the initial start up, I just want to be able to cover the monthly costs as well. A few things are still up in the air. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Can you find a way to show the donations and ad income on the site, to make it transparent? ––[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::: How about a donation amount that you'll take to turn it (the annoying unethical scummy ads) off for a year? Give me a dollar value and I might step up for the good of us all! [[User:J-beda|J-beda]] ([[User talk:J-beda|talk]]) 16:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=410:_Math_Paper 2013-05-05T16:50:04Z

<p>Waldir: /* Explanation */ improve explanation of imaginary and complex numbers</p> <hr /> <div>{{comic<br /> | number = 410<br /> | date = April 14, 2008<br /> | title = Math paper<br /> | image = math_paper.png<br /> | titletext = That's nothing. I once lost my genetics, rocketry, and stripping licenses in a single incident. <br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Explanation==<br /> This comic is a set up to use the joke about {{w|imaginary friend}}s by taking the concept of &quot;friendly numbers&quot; into the complex plane, which comprises numbers that have both a real and an imaginary part.<br /> <br /> An {{w|imaginary number}} is a number that can be written as a real number multiplied by the imaginary unit ''i'', which is defined by its property ''i&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt; = -1'' (an impossibility for regular, &quot;real&quot; numbers, for which all squares are positive). <br /> <br /> An imaginary number ''bi'' can be added to a real number ''a'' to form a complex number of the form ''a+bi'', where ''a'' and ''b'' are called, respectively, the real part and the imaginary part of the complex number. <br /> <br /> The name &quot;imaginary number&quot; was coined in the 17th century as a derogatory term, since such numbers were regarded by some as fictitious or useless, but over time many applications in science and engineering have been found.<br /> <br /> Joel Bradbury has a wonderful explanation of {{w|friendly number}}s on [http://joelbradbury.net/notes/friendly_numbers his site]:<br /> <br /> :What are Friendly Numbers? <br /> :We need first to get define a divisor function over the integers, written σ(n) if you’re so inclined. To get it first we get all the integers that divide into n. So for 3, it’s 1 and 3. For 4, it’s 1, 2, and 4, and for 5 it’s only 1 and 5.<br /> <br /> :Now sum them to get σ(n). So σ(3) = 1 + 3 = 4, or σ(4) = 1 + 2 + 4 = 6, and so on.<br /> <br /> :For each of these n, there is something called a characteristic ratio. Now that’s just the divisors function over the integer itself ( σ(n)/n . So the characteristic ratio where n = 6 is σ(6)/6 = 12/6 =2.<br /> <br /> :Once you have the characteristic ratio for any integer n, any other integers that share the same characteristic are called friendly with each other. So to put it simply a friendly number is any integer that shares its characteristic ratio with at least one other integer. The converse of that is called a solitary number, where it doesn’t share it’s characteristic with anyone else.<br /> <br /> :1,2,3,4 and 5 are solitary. 6 is friendly with 28. ( σ(6)/6 = (1+2+3+6)/6 = 12/6 = 2 = 56/28 = (1+2+4+7+14+28)/28 = σ(28)/28.<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> :Lecturer: In my paper, I use an extension of the divisor function over the Gaussian integers to generalize the so-called &quot;friendly numbers&quot; into the complex plane. [Points to equations on the board.]<br /> :Guy in room: Hold on. Is this paper simply a giant build-up to an &quot;imaginary friends&quot; pun?<br /> :[Lecturer stands speechless.]<br /> :Lecturer: It MIGHT not be.<br /> :Guy in room: I'm sorry, we're revoking your math license.<br /> <br /> {{comic discussion}}<br /> [[Category:Math]]<br /> [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page 2013-05-04T13:45:10Z

<p>Waldir: </p> <hr /> <div>__NOTOC__{{DISPLAYTITLE:explain xkcd}}<br /> &lt;center&gt;<br /> &lt;font size=5px&gt;''Welcome to the '''explain [[xkcd]]''' wiki!''&lt;/font&gt;<br /> <br /> We have collaboratively explained [[:Category:Comics|'''{{#expr:{{PAGESINCAT:Comics|R}}-10}}''' xkcd comics]],<br /> &lt;!-- Note: the -10 in the calculation above is to discount subcategories (there are 8 of them as of 2013-02-27),<br /> as well as [[List of all comics]] and [[List of unexplained comics]], which are obviously not comic pages. --&gt;<br /> and only {{#expr:{{LATESTCOMIC}}-({{PAGESINCAT:Comics|R}}-10)}}<br /> ({{#expr: ({{LATESTCOMIC}}-({{PAGESINCAT:Comics|R}}-10)) / {{LATESTCOMIC}} * 100 round 0}}%)<br /> [[List of unexplained comics|remain]]. '''[[Help:How to add a new comic explanation|Add yours]]''' while there's a chance!<br /> &lt;/center&gt;<br /> == Latest comic ==<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;border:1px solid grey; background:#eee; padding:1em;&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;span style=&quot;float:right;&quot;&gt;[[{{LATESTCOMIC}}|'''Go to this comic explanation''']]&lt;/span&gt;<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;right&quot;&gt;<br /> {{:{{LATESTCOMIC}}}}<br /> {{#ifexist:Talk:{{LATESTCOMIC}}|&lt;h2&gt;Discussion&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> {{Talk:{{LATESTCOMIC}}}}<br /> }}&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;''Is this out of date? {{Purge|Clicking here will fix that}}.''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == New here? ==<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;float:right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em&quot;&gt;{{Special:ContributionScores/10/7/nosort,notools}}&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.85em; width:25em; font-style:italic&quot;&gt;[[Special:ContributionScores|Lots of people]] contribute to make this wiki a success. Many of the recent contributors, listed above, have just joined. You can do it too! Create your account [[Special:UserLogin/signup|here]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> You can read a brief introduction about this wiki at [[explain xkcd]]. Feel free to sign up for an account and contribute to the wiki! We need explanations for comics, characters, themes, memes and everything in between. If it is referenced in an [[xkcd]] web comic, it should be here.<br /> <br /> * If you're new to wikis like this, take a look at these help pages describing [[mw:Help:Navigation|how to navigate]] the wiki, and [[mw:Help:Editing pages|how to edit]] pages.<br /> <br /> * Discussion about various parts of the wiki is going on at [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]]. Share your 2¢!<br /> <br /> * [[List of all comics]] contains a complete table of all xkcd comics so far and the corresponding explanations. The missing explanations are listed [[List of unexplained comics|here]]. Feel free to help out by creating them! '''[[Help:How to add a new comic explanation|Here's how]]'''.<br /> <br /> == Rules ==<br /> Don't be a jerk. There are a lot of comics that don't have set in stone explanations; feel free to put multiple interpretations in the wiki page for each comic.<br /> <br /> If you want to talk about a specific comic, use its discussion page.<br /> <br /> Please only submit material directly related to —and helping everyone better understand— xkcd... and of course ''only'' submit material that can legally be posted (and freely edited.) Off-topic or other inappropriate content is subject to removal or modification at admin discretion, and users who repeatedly post such content will be blocked.<br /> <br /> If you need assistance from an [[explain xkcd:Administrators|admin]], post a message to the [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests|Admin requests]] board.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Root category]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_all_comics 2013-05-01T18:01:59Z

<p>Waldir: For future reference, Kronf himself {{diff|11070|moved}} the template to the lowercase title to make this work. (Assisted)</p> <hr /> <div><br /> ==Add blog entry==<br /> Hmm is there a way we can have a column linking to the original explainxkcd blog entry if it exists? --[[User:SurturZ|SurturZ]] ([[User talk:SurturZ|talk]]) 08:55, 5 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Sure, that makes perfect sense, especially since the comments were very important for many of the comics. Feel free to add it :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 14:27, 5 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Create not working==<br /> The create-links don't work because &quot;Template:'''C'''reate&quot; has to be written with a capital C. Unfortunately, text replacing is not installed. --[[User:Kronf|Kronf]] ([[User talk:Kronf|talk]]) 13:58, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :For future reference, Kronf himself {{diff|11070|moved}} the template to the lowercase title to make this work. [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Dates==<br /> The dates for comics 12 and 5 can be deduced from the dates of the adjacent comics - they're all 2005-09-30. We can also make a jab at guessing that comic number 36 is between 2005-10-28 and 2005-10-26. Those comments in the source annoy me, and I wish them gone. We could also jump on the XKCD forums and see if they know anything, but the relative dates should be telling enough. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 09:06, 27 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :XKCD back in 2005 was not published on a regular schedule. Randall doesn't have logs from when those comics went live, so the dates are in fact lost to history. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:57, 27 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeeah, but we can see from the dates on comics submitted around the unknowns that the first 14 comics seem to have been batch-uploaded on the same day, and that comics 35 and 37 leave a three-day range that comic 36 could have been published on, the most likely of those dates being 2005-10-27 given the way that Randall seems to never release two comics on the same day after his initial 14. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 06:10, 28 November 2012 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals 2013-05-01T17:42:15Z

<p>Waldir: I agree with Davidy22. Archiving topics can be done by anyone, by moving resolved threads to the portal section's corresponding talk page. We could start with the threads marked &quot;✓ Closed&quot;. ([[Use...</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Spampage Rampage ==<br /> Hail fellow admins, Jeff, distinguished editors all,<br /> <br /> We've just been through a second spike of spam, (the first being around the 1110 Click and Drag comic) so as your friendly Angel of Death to such spammery, I'd like to open the floor to discussion on strategies to deal with the issue.<br /> <br /> Personally, I don't mind the role of grim reaper for these miscreants, but I'd also prefer that it doesn't grow in magnitude; of late, I find myself almost exclusively dealing with the matter, leaving little enough time to enjoy the site, let alone contributing to it. Anything we can do to keep things under control would be appreciated.<br /> <br /> So far, the spam comes in these flavors:<br /> * One-timers. New users that create their own user page, oddly alike (couldn't be a spam-bot, eh?) always linking to &quot;their&quot; website. By far the biggest percentage of time the scythe falls, it falls on these.<br /> ** Two-timers. A variant of above, except they create one or two additional pages, typically the user's talk page, or a page same as the username, but not in the user namespace. Here too, quickly dispatched across the Styx.<br /> * IPersonators: IP users that create faux user (and other) pages. Second largest group, though this trend has been growing, especially during this recent onslaught.<br /> ** A particularly insidious variant: IPersonators creating or modifying a real users' page. I've been pretty careful, so far, to track down the author, and block ''them'' (as opposed to assuming author = user) but I can see how this flavor of spam risks accidental blocking of legit contributors, which would be doubleplusungood.<br /> * Jibberish vandal: Somebody creating content that isn't spam, but just repeated ''asdf'' or ''ghjkl'' content. Treated as above, though I don't call this spam in the logs. My guess is that this is a spam-bot under development. Fairly infrequent, and addressed using techniques as for above.<br /> <br /> There are a few other one-off types, too, which I won't bother elaborating here.<br /> <br /> So, the open-ended question stands: What do we do?<br /> <br /> # There has been a suggestion to block IP-only contributors (ie must log in) ... perhaps only on an as-needed basis.<br /> # Another thought would be to (by some as-yet unspecified means) prevent the creation, or cause the timely deletion, of user pages by other than said user.)<br /> # Restricting external links (by a similarly as-yet-unspecified means) either to a specified approved white-list, or by a specified set of contributors (must have made more than n edits, for example.)<br /> # Other thoughts? Let the discussion unfold...<br /> <br /> No solution is likely to be perfect; this is a matter of raising the bar to where whatever processed meat can crest over it can be most easily managed... all without being so draconian that we compromise the appeal of the site.<br /> <br /> All said, I have no problems with the grim reaper enterprise, but would like to spend more time in the [[User:IronyChef/TestKitchen|kitchen]], and less in the [[Special:Log/block|dumpster]].<br /> <br /> A little postscript to put the issue into perspective: the ''top four contributors'', (as per Active Users as I write this) are as follows:<br /> * Lcarsos [169 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Davidy22 [282 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Bpothier [298 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * IronyChef [433 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> I can tell you that of my four-hundred plus edits, only about a dozen have not been spam related. Lcarsos and Davidy22 are two ace spam-seeking deputies, so a large part of their edits involve tagging pages with the spam template, not (as I'm sure they'd prefer) actually chiming in on matters xkcd. The rest of the field: not even close in terms of edit magnitude. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was going to suggest a range block, but the IP addresses com from everywhere. The only pattern I can see is in the 83.&lt;25 range. We could also change the captcha to cut into the bots for a little while. Another suggestion would be to create every explanation page, then mark the unfinished ones with the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template, if that exists in this wiki. Then we can block anonymous page creation without having to worry about stopping anonymous users from creating new explanations. We'll have to make a few modifications to the site, to instruct users on how to find pages in need of explanations, but it'll kill all the userpage and self-help spambots. We can figure out how to deal with vandalism later - I would recommend implementing wikipedia's cluebot to automagically roll back page clearing and the like. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 23:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Also, we can semi-protect important pages like categories and templates. Chances are, anonymous users aren't familiar enough with wikis to be handling those anyways, and wiki veteran anonymous users will probably make an account. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 09:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ... ''Madame la Guillotine'' has been busy, dealing with no less than four dozen spammified pages and their attendant contributors in the last hour, to address a third spike in spam. Our hyper-contributing editors have been helping identify these malefactors, so the process has been fairly straight-forward on my part, but it's awfully quiet here....<br /> <br /> The top five contributors, as of this writing, are:<br /> * Divad27182 [133 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Davidy22 [202 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Lcarsos [207 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Bpothier [267 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * IronyChef [537 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> <br /> Number six is comes in at less than half of Divad's, and the curve decays precipitiously from there... so this is becoming a call to arms for admins to convene and discuss, ''or'' Jeff to anoint other, more active contributors, admin status.<br /> <br /> Thoughts?<br /> <br /> -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Would it be possible to volunteer to be another admin to move some of the load off of IronyChef? It feels slightly cruel and unusual for him to be the only active admin, and thus ad-hoc in charge of keeping the engines running. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Another admin is definitely needed, given the volume of spam. It'd be nice if we could [[Special:UnusedTemplates|clean]] [[Special:UnusedFiles|out]] the attic too. Shall we hold a vote? [[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 06:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I only have sporadic time to do edits, so I'd likely not be an ideal choice if there can be only 1 more... --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 07:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: This is yet again great. I'm researching SPAM prevention tools in use on other wikis. Let me know if you have something you think will work. Also, Lcarsos, you are up. Best new admin I can think of. I'm not afraid to add other admins if some (including myself) are less active. Other candidates can be submitted here. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:53, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm immensely honored that you trust me that much. Thank you, I'll work hard to better the wiki. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirect main-page of explainxkcd.com ==<br /> <br /> I mentioned this on the old site, but I guess this is a better place. The first page most people will get to is still the main explainxkcd.com page. With no more updates there it looks at first glance like a dead place, and when I out of habit go there, I still get an instinctive feeling that the site is dead because the first place I am send is a dead place. PLEASE redirect the main-page to this wiki, since this is the place that is still alive. [[User:Carewolf|Carewolf]] ([[User talk:Carewolf|talk]]) 14:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> : Good idea. Will work on that soon. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tagline ==<br /> <br /> I haven't created [[MediaWiki:Tagline]] yet, but we need to think about what to put there. That's the familiar &quot;From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.&quot; over at Wikipedia - it appears right under the title of each page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:39, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]] --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:09, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :I think it's pretty obvious we should keep the &quot;It's cause you're dumb.&quot; :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Well, since there haven't been any objections, I went ahead and added it: [[Mediawiki:Tagline]]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:46, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Separate discussion page(s) ==<br /> <br /> I think we should create a separate Discuss the wiki page, so that each discussion can go under its own header. I'd suggest setting up a todo list where people can help out. I'd start with a suggestion:<br /> : We should be using [[mw:Manual:Short URL|cleaner urls]]. Maybe [http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ this tool] can help setting that up. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 05:46, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :: Whatever we do decide, I've created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates to create links to the xkcd site and other explanations here on this site; that should factor at least those sites (nice central administration) as well as helping us categorize pages that use them. Was thinking of also &lt;nowiki&gt;{{wiki}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; for the same benefit, even if there's already a prefix built into mediawiki... the only drawback is the bias toward the en side... [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 10:31, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm liking the idea of creating a Discuss the wiki page - I'll start one if someone doesn't/hasn't beat me to it and add it to the sidebar. I'd asked for better URLs at [[User talk:Jeff#Robots.txt]], though I didn't know what they were called. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:17, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::I also like the idea of the {{tl|xkcd}} tags. On a related note, I've [[Special:Import|imported]] {{tl|tl}}. :-) &lt;s&gt; I also realize we don't have a secure server here, but I'd support the best practice of beginning URLs with protocol-relative links ( // instead of http:// or https:// ) anyway, especially since the xkcd website ''itself'' appears to be https-compatible.&lt;/s&gt;&lt;small&gt;Nevermind, it doesn't seem to be. So I guess it doesn't matter.&lt;/small&gt; --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:40, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: Maybe we can create a subpage of the community portal for the wiki discussion. What do you think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:32, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::: Also one for editing coordination (see [[User:SurturZ/sandbox]] for instance), another for mediawiki assistance (requests to admins perhaps on the same page, or on a separate one). Any other ideas? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:41, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]], may need to be broken out into new headers or sub-headers. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:12, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Great job on creating the subpages! I think the subpages can be made more intuitive for newcomers, though. Here are my subbestions:<br /> * merge &quot;/Design&quot; and &quot;/Proposals&quot; into '''&quot;/Discuss the wiki&quot;''' or &quot;/Improve the wiki&quot; or something to that effect.<br /> * rename &quot;/Technical&quot; into '''&quot;/Tecnical assistance&quot;''' so it is clear that it should be used for one-off issues rather than coordination of wiki-wide changes (which should go in the section above)<br /> * merge the &quot;/Administrator's noticeboard&quot; above? That would reinforce that adminship is nothing but a set of technical tools to assist the wiki<br /> * New '''&quot;/Editing coordination&quot;''' subpage for organizing what to do, maintenance, keeping a TODO list for newcomers to tackle, etc -- essentially like WikiProjects work at Wikipedia.<br /> --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:35, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :As I see this, it would involve mostly just renaming pages. I don't particularly care what the names are, so I won't comment on that.<br /> :*I'd like to keep /Administrator's noticeboard for the time being. The primary advantage of this is that administrators can watchlist this and things which need the tools are less likely to get lost in discussion. It can always be deprecated afterwards if it isn't being used enough.<br /> :*I'd sort of seen /Design as doing what you're proposing for /Editing coordination, though I didn't explain it as well.<br /> :--''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:43, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :: Ok, I get what you mean with the Admin page. I don't think this wiki is going to be that busy to warrant a separate page, though. But for now, let's at least simplify the name? &quot;Admin requests&quot;, for instance :)<br /> :: And yeah, Design isn't really a good name for content-related coordination. What I'm suggesting here is to have one page for meta (wiki-related) discussion, and another for content-related discussion. Does that make sense? And what name do you think would be good for the former rather than the current, too generic imo, &quot;Proposals&quot;? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:20, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::&quot;Discuss the wiki&quot; sounds good to me, as does &quot;Admin requests.&quot; Or whatever, I guess. ;-) I may not be online much for the next few days (or much this evening), so go ahead and change it how you think it should be, I guess. Having stable discussion pages sooner than later would be good. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:48, 6 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::: Ok I changed the admin page name, and merged &quot;design&quot; and &quot;proposals&quot;, but for now I left it named &quot;Proposals&quot;. I'm not quite confident about the clarity of &quot;Discuss the wiki&quot;... I'll wait until others comment here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 14:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: I'm not seeing any further discussion and it's been a few days since the move, so I'm clearing the sitenotice. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automatic Import ==<br /> <br /> Hi<br /> <br /> I created a draft for the comic pages. It's still work in progress, but I'd like to retrieve feedback.<br /> <br /> Also, maybe we could autmatically import comics using the JSON data Randall gives us ([http://xkcd.com/614/info.0.json]). This way, we could also include transcripts. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:23, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> : Hm, I should add a link to my draft: [[User:SlashMe/Testpage]] ;-) --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I updated the page, including links to the next/previous comic similar to [[Template:ComicHeader]]. I used comic 472, because it has a lot of metadata (link, news, HTML title, etc.). --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 07:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Just to remind everyone, I'd be ready to import the comics, but I don't want to until I got more feedback. Please have a look at [[User:SlashMe/Testpage]] and tell me your opinion. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:02, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> : I think your test page looks great. I'm a big fan of it. Any way to fit the text in the text box rather than having it run all the way to the right? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:19, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :: I just made a change concerning line breaks, at least it works in Firefox and Chrome. Could somebody please test it in different versions of Internet Explorer?<br /> :: If you agree, I would start uploading tomorrow. I'll send you a mail. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 18:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> The discussion is now at [[Explain XKCD:Community_portal/Design#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:20, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Random comic?&quot; ==<br /> <br /> Not to clutter the sidebar, but what would you say to adding a &quot;Random comic&quot; right under &quot;Random page&quot;, linking to [//dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/ //dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/] ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:46, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Naw, xkcd already has a random comic. I think we should have a ''random explanation''. ;-) All kidding aside, I was wondering: generating a random member of a category...? Has that improved since the early days when I tried to do something like that. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 03:19, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Hi. For how to do this, we could install the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Random_In_Category Random In Category] Mediawiki extension, which would allow us to use &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Special:RandomInCategory/Comics]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; to point to any random explanation. {{User:Omega/sig}} 22:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Or we could move the comics into a Comic namespace, and use Special:Random/comic (See for instance [[Special:Random/template]]). This doesn't require any server-side changes. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Header template ==<br /> <br /> Hi, I've created a template called [[Template:ComicHeader]], which might make things easier when creating comic pages (and also provide better consistency between the pages). I've used it on the [[Internal monologue]] page, to display the comic number and the date it was published. The template also adds the page to the [[:Category:Comics|Comics]] category.<br /> <br /> You just need to add:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{ComicHeader|1089|August 1, 2012}}&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> …to the start of the page (replacing the comic number and date).<br /> <br /> I'll try to make the template look a bit nicer, but the great thing about templates of course, is that once they're updated, the changes are reflected on all the pages that include that template. --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 18:46, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :By the way, I'm thinking of maybe programming something that would allow you to easily import the comic image and alt text from xkcd without having to upload the images manually and the like. You'd just have to host a single PHP file on your server and make a few changes to the MediaWiki configuration. Of course, you'd be able to see source code and everything to make sure I'm not trying to do something fishy. :-P Let me know what you think. :-) --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 18:54, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Yirba - I like the idea. My email is explain@explainxkcd.com - send me what you put together and we can sort it out. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:37, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Ditto on the Template. Up-vote. Any thought on harvesting the pre-wiki content from ExplainXKCD with some sort of a Python, Perl, or PHP script? (That sounds more like a 'bot than something that would have to be hosted, though.) [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:52, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::: I was thinking of putting it into a infobox, please [[#Idea|see above]]. I also intended to automatically extract data from xkcd, which would lack descriptions, but at least we would have data like title, image and transcripts. Also, there are some other data like links (e.g. 832), news (which are displayed in xkcd's header, e.g. 739) and titles which contain HTML (259 and 472). I also extracted all those data. When we agree on a page layout, I could begin programming a bot. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmmm… an infobox may be a good idea. And a bot that imports data from xkcd might be handy. Anyway, here's something I programmed that would allow for access to the xkcd API from the wiki itself. Essentially, you'd put this xkcdinfo.php ([http://gist.github.com/3239432 source], [http://github.com/downloads/Yirba/yirba.github.com/xkcdinfo.php download]) file somewhere on the server (e.g. at http://www.explainxkcd.com/xkcdinfo.php) and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki#Adding_a_new_website_for_interwiki_linking include it in MediaWiki's interwiki table] (ensuring iw_trans == 1):<br /> &lt;pre&gt;INSERT INTO interwiki (iw_prefix, iw_url, iw_local, iw_trans) VALUES ('xkcdinfo', 'http://www.explainxkcd.com/xkcdinfo.php?input=$1', 0, 1);&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> ::::After [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding enabling scary transclusion] in LocalSettings.php, you'd then be able to send queries to the xkcd JSON API via this file. In other words, &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:32-title}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; would make comic 32's title appear. &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:55-alt}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; would make comic 55's image text appear. I've also set it so you could enter &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:100-embed}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;, and it would make the comic 100 image appear on the wiki page. Feel free to use it however you want (if at all), and modify the code should you wish. (Hint: Using the number 0 for the comic number will query the most recent comic, so &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:0-num}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; will return the current comic number. Also, adding &quot;raw:&quot; before &quot;xkcdinfo:&quot; might be more useful in some instances. E.g.: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{raw:xkcdinfo:555-title}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;)--[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 14:50, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::: Nice idea, altough this would mean to load all data from xkcd whenever a page is &lt;del&gt;viewed&lt;/del&gt;&lt;ins&gt;edited&lt;/ins&gt; (I think this is the way MediaWiki caches the data). This is a lot of traffic for little data. I'd say to include the metadata statically, but linking the external image seems a good thing to me. Again, it'd be great if you gave me feedback for [[User:SlashMe/Testpage|my idea]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::::Yes, the data would be loaded from xkcd for each edit. You can, however, substitute (subst) the template for data that is unlikely to change. And therefore the data would indeed be stored statically. I like the layout you've come up with. It could perhaps do with a bit of tweaking here and there, but the general idea is good. --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 17:16, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::::: What kind of tweaking do you mean? I know the code is a bit messy, if you have a better idea, please tell me (or do it yourself - hey, it's a wiki!). The CSS should be placed in an external file, but for now, it's ok. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:51, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Looks like there is another/newer template called [[Template:Comic]] that includes prev/next buttons as well. <br /> You add it with:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{comic<br /> | number = 1<br /> | date = September 30, 2005<br /> | title = {{PAGENAME}}<br /> | image = barrel_cropped_(1).jpg<br /> | imagesize = <br /> | alttext = Don't we all.<br /> }}<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --~~~~&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ==Description==<br /> xxxxxxxxxxx<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> No need to include the alt text separately, as the template does it for you. It also includes the comic category, but only if the first 4 fields are filled out.<br /> --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 18:47, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> : Yes, but that is not necessarily an advantage. My template only creates the infobox, so you are still able to create an introductory text or other sections, for special comics that need a more detailed description. I can also add categories if needed. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:02, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I think it is a major advantage to make the thing easier to use and more consistant site-wide.<br /> <br /> ::As the creator of the new one, I'm obviously biased, but I created it because I think it's better. Not putting your work down, it was a great piece of code that I put to work in my template. But I think if there's need for pre-text of any kind (not sure there is, as the articles probably should all open with the comic itself as presented on XKCD), a pre-comment can be added into the template, but I'm not sure what that would be. Perhaps there would be a requirement for special circumstances like the comic a few weeks ago where there were a million iterations depending on locality, browser, etc. But that's the rarity. I think the new one simplifies it for users. They need only one template to post the comic, alt text title and nav buttons. What could be easier? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:08, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::: As the creator of the other one, I'm equally biased. What about a &quot;main template&quot;, which then calls one or two other templates (e.g. one for the infobox, another for image and alt text? For most comics, this main template could be used, but if absolutely needed, it would still be possible to use the underlying templates with custom sections/text. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::I just now saw your request for feedback on your new comic page with the sidebar. I honestly am not sure which format is better. I kind of like my format for the fact that it basically presents the comic as it was originally posted, but your infobox does provide some additional stuff like 3D link (not sure what &quot;news&quot; is, of where the &quot;link&quot; comes from but...) Perhaps we could integrate the two. I like that the comic is visble right away on my template, but on your page it's down below the first header. I don't think the comic itself needs an &quot;image&quot; heading. No disrespect, but I think your sidebar, esp. because of the &quot;news&quot; field is a bit chunky - too wide for most of its content.<br /> <br /> ::::I think we could easily add things like a &quot;3d&quot; link into {{tl|comic}} as part of the next/prev bar where a &quot;3D&quot; field in the template is non-blank. Similarly, original title could read something like (Originally titled: xxxxx) below the primary title in a smaller font. Other than the &quot;link&quot; and &quot;news&quot; fields (which again, I'm not sure what they are), I think that would inclde all the same info as your infobox into my template. Thoughts? <br /> <br /> ::::As to your other comment about compartmentalizing the template, I have nothing against that, but which parts of the template would you want to be able to use separately (and can you suggest an example where that might be necessary?) Subdividing the template can always be done later if it becomes needed; just trying to get an idea of what you have in mind by compartmentalizing it. Cheers [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:43, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:37, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> {{outdent|::::}}<br /> <br /> ''Suggestion:''<br /> <br /> * I will start by uploading all images. This will take some time and has no points to discuss. (If it has, tell me.) At a later point, maybe we could link them directly from xkcd.com.<br /> * For the comic pages: Let's say we'll use {{tl|Comic}}. I'll change the arguments of the template to be more like my {{tl|Infobox comic}}, see [[Template:Infobox comic#Arguments|documentation]]. I'll keep the ''alttext'' argument, but make ''image'' optional (file name should be guessed from the title). Do we really need ''imagesize''?<br /> * {{tl|Comic}} would then call some further templates, passing the appropriate arguments. This way, we are able to use custom sections/text if needed for special comics (like [http://xkcd.com/1037/ Umwelt]) by using these templates instead of the all-in-one {{tl|Comic}}.<br /> * Since we have one template doing all the work, we can easily change the page layout even after the import. (We should only keep track of the pages that don't use {{tl|Comic}}, using a hidden category)<br /> * For consistency, I would move all existing pages out of the way and re-create them. The moved pages could be collected by adding them to a category like [[:Category:legacy pages]], so they should easily be found. Descriptions should be moved to the new pages, afterwards the legacy pages can be deleted.<br /> <br /> This way, I can import all comics, but we would still be able to change the layout afterwards. My 2ct concerning page layout:<br /> * &lt;del&gt;'''Use comic titles as page names.'''&lt;/del&gt;&lt;ins&gt;(See below)&lt;/ins&gt; The title should be prominent, the number will be in the infobox.<br /> * I'll remove ''Original title'', ''news'' and ''link'' from the infobox and move them to a section after the description. (For details, see [[Template:Infobox_comic#Documentation|here]])<br /> * suggested layout:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> =====page title=====<br /> +--------------------+ +---------+<br /> | | | infobox |<br /> | image | | text |<br /> |(no section heading)| | |<br /> | | | |<br /> | | +---------+<br /> +--------------------+<br /> ==alt==<br /> text<br /> ==description==<br /> text<br /> ==transcript==<br /> text<br /> ==original title, news and link== (if available)<br /> text<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Still open for opinions.--[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:13, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :It might make more sense to use the comic number as the page title, and then use [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowDisplayTitle DISPLAYTITLE] to make the comic title appear in place of the number. Just putting that out as another possibility. --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 09:49, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Good point, I agree. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 09:54, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> If anyone wants to use it, I've written a bot [http://pastebin.com/5F877BHE] that can upload images, create redirect pages, and create comic pages. You can change the format it uses for the comic page if you have some knowledge of python. To use it, look at [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Quick_Start_Guide]. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 10:56, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Sorry, I was faster. I'm using [http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/mwclient/ mwclient], and I already uploaded all images. I could also create pages and redirects, but I'm waiting until we have a consent. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 11:02, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::A few thoughts: if you start uploading images, but don't create the comic pages with them, a user going to create a new comic page isn't going to know whether or not the comic image has already been uploaded. This could be confusing. Hopefully the uploads are going to be named the same as the original images? (when I do upload, I actually just paste the URL in my &quot;browse&quot; box and upload directly from my browsers cache that way so it works out), but I just want to avoid duplicating images on the server as well as wasting time by trying to upload something that's already there.<br /> <br /> ::As to the page layout, I'm still of the view that the transcript should be in a collapsed frame so that it doesn't take up half the article. I don't honestly think that most people are coming to read the transcript. I could be wrong tho. Open to opinions on that. Otherwise, I do like transcript AFTER The explanation (also, the heading &quot;explanation&quot; vs. &quot;description&quot; as mentioned in another discussion in the portal. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::PS: We definately need imagesize. It defaults to full size, but I think we definately need the optional argument for large comics. Remembering that this is a wiki to explain the comics, there are many large comics that ought to be restricted to a smaller size for the page (they can be clicked to enlarge - the template automatically creates a &quot;click to enlarge&quot; link if imagesize is used). I have generally been using a 375 or 400px size for keeping larger comics managable, but sometimes it's a comic-dependant decision. Also, notwithstanding my comment on another thread, even though I agree that the xkcd commentary is actually &quot;title text&quot;, just as a side note, I've just noticed that the transcripts for older comics actually do call it &quot;alt text&quot;) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: As long as no one has any objections, this header looks awesome (with ImageSize as TheHYPO suggested), so feel free to work on the importation functionality. Let me know if you need anything from me in order to import from the Wordpress side of things. If we start talking importation, lets move that conversation under a different header. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Date format ===<br /> <br /> I suggest to enter the date as YYYY-MM-DD and using &lt;nowiki&gt;{{#dateformat: {{date}}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; in {{tl|comic}}. This way, the date should be displayed using the personal preferences (see [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-datetime]]). Does anyone disagree? --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 20:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Displaying Comics {{done|Closed}}==<br /> <br /> For the home page, I think the comic and explanation should be displayed instead of a link to the comic.<br /> <br /> For reasons unknown to me, I decided to create [[Template:Comicbox]] and [[Template:Comicbox2]]. Looks nice, as long as you use the correct one for the comic.<br /> <br /> Go to [[User:Grep/comicbox]] and [[User:Grep/comicbox2]] for examples. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :Those're wonderful! And should probably be on the main page. If you wanted, we could probably incorporate them (and maybe a third?) into a single template with a &quot;square/vertical or horizontal&quot; switch. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:36, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, you used &quot;comicbox&quot; for the class. Is that a class that's defined somewhere? (And if so, where?) --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:36, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::Good point. Removed. And merging them sounds wonderful. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> ::::Maybe merging them into [[Template:comicbox]]? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :::::I think classes are defined at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], so if you really wanted to define the class.... And [[Template:Comicbox]] would probably be best. Did you want to merge them or should I take a look at it? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:25, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::ParserFunctions and any sort of non-XMLish markup is weird. I would rather you look at it. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :::::::Okay, I've moved your templates to {{tl|Comicbox square or vertical}} and {{tl|Comicbox horizontal}} so I can work on {{tl|Comicbox}} as the main one. It may take a while - I like to think of myself as a &quot;[[wikipedia:Category:User template coder|master of all known wikimarkup]],&quot; but I don't actually use those skills that often. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Thanks. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :::::::::I've made it at {{tl|Comicbox}}. This actually leaves {{tl|Comicbox square or vertical}} and {{tl|Comicbox horizontal}} unused, though I credited you (and them) in a comment at the top of the template. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:21, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I think that the explanation should be on the right because it just looks weird as is... --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> {{outdent}} Sure. But right now they both look like they're on the bottom? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:02, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :{{done|Fixed}} --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> ===Sans-serif typeface {{done|Closed}}===<br /> ::::::::I like these, too, but the roman typeface... how do folks feel about sticking with a sans-serif typeface throughout the site? [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 00:13, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::We should be able to change that wiki-wide through [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], I think. Unfortunately, I don't know enough CSS to do it. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::: I believe sans serif is already the default wiki-wide. Those specific instances were deliberately coded to use a serif font. It's just a matter of removing &lt;code&gt;font-family: 'Times New Roman';&lt;/code&gt; from the template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:01, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::: Oh, I'd missed that. I removed it. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:14, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:37, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == comic header ==<br /> <br /> Jeff, further to your previous conversation on the comic header, I've significantly rewritten Yirba's template (thanks to Yirba for the hard work. His navigation bar was very useful) and I've created a new template of {{tl|comic}}. An example of the comic in use can be seen at [[T-shirts]]. I started a discussion on the main page discussion board, but I thought if I pointed it out to you and you like it, it can start going in the rotation for new comics.<br /> <br /> I actually now see that Grep did a template up with intent (I think) to use for the main page. Had I known that when I started, I would have probably based my template off of his, because it looks nice, but either way, mine is intended for the actual articles. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:46, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Again, may I link to &lt;del&gt;[[User talk:Jeff#Automatic Import|my request for feedback]]&lt;/del&gt;? --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:52, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> The discussion is now at [[Explain XKCD:Community_portal/Design#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:17, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:37, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Bylines ==<br /> In the migration from blog to wiki, I noticed a few things:<br /> # Visitors still seem to assume there's a single, ''invisible other'' that provides the explanations; this might be a carryover from the blog days when Jeff was the author of that content, or it may be newcomers not familiar with the license-to-create a wiki offers. You see it in comments that call out corrections, without the corrections actually being made to the explanations. Usually a more savvy editor swings in, makes the fix, and chimes in on the comments.<br /> # There's no visual cue on the page itself to disabuse a novice of that fact. Sure, wikiphiles will check the history; but aside from that the novice has is left in the dark, and certainly isn't led to the conclusion that they, too, can contribute to the explanation.<br /> To that end, I was wondering: why not put a {{tl|byline}} on each explanation, and give credit where credit is due? I know Waldir wanted to &quot;gamify&quot; the wiki a bit. I don't know that I'd go ''that'' far, but putting bylines does kill a few birds by raising awareness of the democratic approach to explanations, and giving kudos to the contributor(s). I've prototyped it (and of course, it's subject to revision) but here's how it would work:<br /> * '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|you}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|you}}<br /> * '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|you|me}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|you|me}}<br /> * '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|you|me|someone else}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|you|me|someone else}}<br /> * More concretely, '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|Jeff|Waldir|IronyChef|Blaisepascal}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|Jeff|Waldir|IronyChef|Blaisepascal}}<br /> (in general, the parameters are the usernames, up to about 5 or six contributors, for now.) Was thinking about having the content be automatically turned into wiki-links, but left that out while we think it over. Thotz? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: How would we indicate who is in the byline? The person who created the page? The person who edited the most characters? Would it be a combination of all the names? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 14:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I have to say, it sounds contrary to the whole wiki premise. I agree with you that there does seem to be a bit of a learning curve here, but I don't know if &quot;crediting&quot; the explanations is the right solution. How much editing does one have to do to get credit on an article? You might get people who want to edit just to get credits, and credits over time could get relatively lengthy. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:41, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Template improvement suggestion ==<br /> <br /> Can I suggest that we work on improving {{tl|ComicHeader}} - I wish I had time to do it myself and then edit all the comic pages, but I would suggest the best way might be to start a new template (perhaps design it a bit more like an infobox) and start converting the old pages over to new ones.<br /> <br /> The feature I think should be added is that, where the template currently includes teh comic number and date, and creates the nav header, the template really ought to include the image name, and the alt text. In that way, the template can produce the entire part of the article that displays the comic and its alt text (and the alt text, as mentioned, could be more like a caption, instead of just looking like a generic section of the article - it's part of the comic, it shouldn't look like part of the article on this site (no offence, Jeff, but that's one thing I always didn't like about explain XKCD - the image text should be bold or underlined or italics or something to signify that it's part of the comic and not the explanation.<br /> <br /> I'll see if I can work on a prototype. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 12:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :What does everyone thing of this as a better layout? [[Blown Apart]] [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 13:09, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::May I link to &lt;del&gt;[[User talk:Jeff#Automatic Import|my request for feedback]]&lt;/del&gt;? --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:52, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:44, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;The discussion is now at [[#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:17, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Transcripts ==<br /> <br /> Do we need to add a whole section on &quot;Transcript&quot; for each comic? That could get very long for some comics, and basically pushes the explanations down further (which is what people generally come to explainxkcd for). If anything, perhaps the transcripts could be in a minimizable box like some navboxes do on wikipedia? I don't see a majority of users coming to read the transcripts... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> : What about putting the transcripts at the bottom of the page?<br /> : BTW: If you agree, this discussion should be moved to [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]], as [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] suggested. At least for new discussions. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:19, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::No problem there. Feel free to move it. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::How about having it be collapsed, with the option to expand it (TOC-like)? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:25, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:47, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;The discussion is now at [[#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:18, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Adding a new comic ==<br /> <br /> This is the process I use to add a new comic. YMMV... Feel free to update this as/if needed to provide some consistency...--[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 19:22, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I start by uploading the image using the name from [[XKCD]]'s page.<br /> <br /> I create the new page using the comic number(not the name), e.g. &quot;http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1&quot;<br /> <br /> I (currently) insert using the &quot;Comic&quot; template:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> {{comic<br /> | number = 1<br /> | date = September 30, 2005<br /> | title = {{PAGENAME}}<br /> | image = barrel_cropped_(1).jpg<br /> | imagesize = <br /> | alttext = Don't we all.<br /> }}<br /> ==Transcript==<br /> This is the transcript from xkcd<br /> ==Description==<br /> Wow what a cool comic!<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> I &quot;Show preview&quot; to ensure the image shows up and everything looks good.<br /> <br /> I &quot;Save page&quot;.<br /> <br /> I click the &quot;move&quot; link on the down-arrow drop-down menu to the right of &quot;View history&quot; (at top of page).<br /> <br /> I rename the page from &quot;1&quot; to the page title from [[XKCD]].<br /> <br /> This will automatically create a redirect from &quot;1&quot; to the correct page name without having to do it manually.<br /> --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 19:22, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Please, have a break here. When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically. I repeat, when we agree on the layout (which should also include the direction of the redirects) --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:25, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:47, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> The discussion concerning the layout is at [[Explain XKCD:Community_portal/Design#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:18, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == styling of xkcd links ==<br /> <br /> I added code to the end of [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] to style links to the xkcd website as http://xkcd.com rather than the regular external link format, http://example.com. What do you guys think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 05:06, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :I like it generally. Is there a way to force it to not display on individual pages, though? I don't think we should have it at [[Explain XKCD:Copyrights]], {{tl|XKCD file}}, or {{tl|XKCD file derived}}, as they are more serious. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Sure. I've disabled it on those pages, feel free to add more as you see fit. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:22, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::Thanks! --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:34, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :I like the idea of the graphic, too, but wonder if it could be muted a bit (medium gray vs black) so it recedes a bit into the background; the classic graphic is a very light blue for that reason, too. (Oh, and a minor quibble... overheard: &quot;who is that short, bearded dude?&quot; &quot;Oh! That's megan?&quot;) ... I don't know how we could update it, and maybe it'll be less of an issue when muted... Thotz? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The image can be updated by uploading new versions of [[File:xkcd favicon.png]]. It doesn't need to be the xkcd.com favicon; in fact, it would be good if we could make it even smaller (e.g. just cueball's head, or simply &quot;xkcd&quot; in the typical handwritten font, etc). Making it dimmer also seems like a good idea, btw. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 'Explanation' rather than 'Description' ==<br /> <br /> Can I suggest we use the heading &quot;Explanation&quot; rather than &quot;Description&quot; on the comic pages, since that fits with the name of the wiki? --[[User:SurturZ|SurturZ]] ([[User talk:SurturZ|talk]]) 09:20, 5 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Agreed. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 14:27, 5 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Seconded [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Allow external inline images ==<br /> <br /> Hi. I'd like to propose that we set [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages $wgAllowExternalImages] to true '''or''' add &lt;tt&gt;xkcd.com&lt;/tt&gt; and some image hosting sites (such as &lt;tt&gt;imgur.com&lt;/tt&gt;) to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImagesFrom $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom]. If the former is set to true, external images will be allowed from any host, whereas if the former is kept as false but we add some sites to the latter (obviously adding xkcd's site itself seems to be the logical choice), then only images that are from whitelisted sites can appear as inline images. What this does is it allows external images to be displayed as an actual image, rather than just a link (note that sites not in the whitelist will still appear as just the link). Why? Because there's no way to display images without uploading them. Obviously some editors may wish to use images for non-wiki purposes, such as proposing alternative logos or for their userspace, in which case uploading the images to this site isn't entirely practical. Allowing externally hosted images to be displayed will alleviate that problem.<br /> <br /> Yes, there is the risk of... less appropriate images being displayed, however, I consider that being a null argument, as editors could just as easily upload the image here and link it as an internal image. As well, using the whitelist alternative would limit the image to being posted from a trusted site, such as imgur. Finally, if worries about nude photos being posted is really a concern (seriously, what's stopping an editor from just uploading said image here? Nothing.), it's possible to only whitelist sites which don't permit nude images from being hosted on their site (such as &lt;tt&gt;imageshack.us&lt;/tt&gt;), although I think that's a bit extreme (especially considering that imgur is hands down the most popular image host these days). {{User:Omega/sig}} 07:52, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I really don't see a compelling reason to have this. It's not about improper images or anything. (Note that we already have access to all images in [[commons:|Wikimedia Commons]], by the way, which has a large variety of images and other media, with the added benefit that we're sure they can be reused without licensing concerns). A specific whitelist could be interesting (e.g. we could hotlink the images from xkcd), but having the images here allows us to do neat things like categorizing them by topic, size, etc. Also, images like logo proposals, etc. do benefit from being uploaded here (for historical interest, for a guarantee that they won't be deleted wherever they're hosted, for better control regarding how they're displayed, etc.) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Latest comic handling ==<br /> <br /> Currently the latest comic is handled automatically by the {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} template, which tests the existence of pages like 1092, 1093 (supposed to be redirects to the corresponding comics), to see which is the highest-number existing page, and consider it the latest comic.<br /> <br /> That way we can have the latest comic automatically transcluded on the main page.<br /> <br /> But we cannot have, with that system, an automatic &quot;Edit&quot; link (to edit the latest comic) on the main page, nor can we have automatically the comments associated with that latest comic. The former was {{diff|5587|changed to a &quot;Go to this comic&quot; link}}, and the latter was {{diff|4940|removed}}. I think both of them are really useful things to have on the main page.<br /> <br /> I've been thinking a little bit about this, and in the end I suggest that we handle manually the latest comic :<br /> * There would be a single {{tl|latest comic}} template, which would have to be updated manually to return the full title of the latest comic's page (such as &quot;1092: Michael Phelps&quot;).<br /> * Next to the &quot;Latest comic&quot; header, on the front page, would be appended a &quot;[update]&quot; link, to a page explaining that to insert the new latest comic in the wiki: one needs to 1/ create a page titled &quot;&lt;number&gt;: &lt;title&gt;&quot; and 2/ update the {{tl|latest comic}} template with the new title.<br /> * The &quot;Edit this explanation&quot; link could be put back on the main page, using something like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[{{fullurl:{{latest comic}}|action=edit}} '''Edit this explanation''']&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. And I firmly believe that link is important. ({{diff|5598|*this*}} for instance is exactly what I'm talking about)<br /> * The comments to the latest comic could be appended under the latest comic's transclusion, with something like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{ {{TALKPAGENAME: {{latest comic}} }} }}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. They could be in a collapsible area if they take too much space. Same here than about the edit link, I believe that's really important to impel/motivate readers to leave their comments as well.<br /> * Finally, when only the number is needed (such as in the computation of the number of missing explanations), this could be done via another template (for instance {{tl|latest comic number}}), automatic this time, which would replace the current {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} by extracting the value out of {{tl|latest comic}} (with something like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#explode:{{latest comic}}|:}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;).<br /> <br /> So, yes there would be a value to update manually, but that's not really much and if it's part of a process I don't think that would be a big drawback, and on the other hand I think it would be less error-prone than an automatic calculation, and allow more useful things. And make less use of redirects as well. Furthermore, the current {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}}, used quite a lot (in the sidebar, so in every page actually), makes heavy use of the &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#ifexist:...}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; parser function, [[mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##ifexist|qualified as &quot;expensive&quot;]], so even though it may not be a big deal it could be a better option to try to avoid that...<br /> <br /> What do you think?<br /> <br /> [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Quick interjection in the middle of this larger posting, but I've been playing around with a template that should radically simplify the exhaustive and expensive logic used by {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} by using date math. It's been simmering in my test kitchen, and I'm fairly sure it's robust enough to roll out... just one thing: it would be much more efficient if we had the Variables extension (ie, ADMIN REQUEST) else there would be a lot of duplicate recalculation of the date. Not terrible, but not as good as it could be. See {{tl|LatestComicOnDate}} and the associated talk page for the guts of it. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A few considerations:<br /> :* We can instead add the edit link directly to the comic page. It could be generated by the {{tl|comic}} template, which already has to be provided with both the number and the title of the comic (in fact those could even be automatically extracted from the page title with some [[mw:Extension:StringFunctions|string parsing functions]] or {{w|Template:Str number/trim|clever}} {{w|Template:Remove first word|templates}}). This should solve the &quot;edit this comic&quot; link issue.<br /> :* Actually, the discussion part was hidden from the main page on purpose (although for a different reason: it was transcluding the main page's own talk page instead). I am not sure it's a good idea to include it in the main page as it could clutter it, but I can understand the point of putting it there. I would suggest perhaps including it directly rather than inside the {{tl|comic discussion}} box, as that would create a box on a box layout that I don't think would look too good. Note that there is no problem with needing the pagename here, since we can transclude a redirect (the same way the actual comic page is transcluded using only the number, which is a redirect).<br /> :* I did see that edit and was thinking that we could probably display a custom info message whenever someone attempts to edit main page, so they'll know they ''can'' edit the actual comic page. I'll add that to my todo list.<br /> :* Mediawiki itself will tell us when a potentially expensive parser function is being used too much, by placing the corresponding page in [[:Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls]]. So we don't need to be concerned with {{w|premature optimization}} :)<br /> :--[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The edit link can be displayed, specifically on the main page, by the {{tl|comic}} template, that is true; it just seems wrong to me however, it's not his job to do so...<br /> ::As for the comments, they cannot be displayed by the template (unless we put them before the explanation), so we still don't have a solution for them; and I still believe they would be very useful on the main page, very appealing for readers to come and comment as well.<br /> ::So, problem still not solved I would say... - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I don't see the problem with {{tl|comic}} displaying the edit link on the main page, especially since you consider using it to display the discussion as well (which, I agree, unfortunately isn't possible)<br /> ::: I added the discussion to the main page. It will depend on a redirect being created for the talk page as well every time a new comic is released, but it doesn't make it any harder. Compare:<br /> :::# Create comic page at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Update &lt;nowiki&gt;{{latest comic}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Redirect &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123]] to [[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; &lt;small&gt;(it's necessary to allow people to get to the comic with only the number)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :::with:<br /> :::# Create comic page at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Redirect &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123]] to [[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Redirect &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:123]] to [[Talk:123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::Therefore, I don't see a strong case for creating the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{latest comic}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::<br /> ::::You're right, the two systems are equivalent in use; but then is there a strong case to keep the current one against using the one I suggested?<br /> ::::Currently we cannot get an &quot;add a comment&quot; link on the main page, and to put the &quot;edit this explanation&quot; banner below the explanation one has to put it on the comic page (and manually remove it once the comic is not the latest any more). And when there is no comments yet, the main page displays a weird red link (transclusion of the redirect page to a non-existant page) instead of displaying (for instance) a nice &quot;''No comments yet''&quot;.<br /> ::::True, the {{tl|comic}} template could be used to, specifically on the main page, display something like &quot;view page - edit - add a comment&quot; on top-right, but that doesn't solve all these issues, and then the links wouldn't be at their ideal place. And one could argue that all the features I'm speaking about are not absolutely necessary, but I still think it would be better at least.<br /> ::::All in all, I can live with the current system, but I still believe a manually updated &lt;nowiki&gt;{{latest comic}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would allow, without cost, to set a better layout of content, navigation links and edit/comment links.<br /> ::::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:46, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::<br /> :::*I am in agreement that the goal should be to have the ability to comment directly onto the main page for the current comic. <br /> ::::Can all pages be formatted to look like the main page (ie header with number of comics explained/remaining and the 3 paragraphs at the end describing the site). <br /> ::::If this could be done (I don't think it would clutter the site as these take up very little space even on the main page), then could we just redirect the main page to the comic with the highest number? The function of the main page would not change as a new user would still see all information currently available on the main page, but it would have the added benefit of sending visitors to the desired location (the fully functional current comic page).<br /> ::::[[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 17:23, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How to reference strips? ==<br /> <br /> I think we need to agree on a citation style for strips in plain prose. I.e. If the [[Black Hat]] article says &quot;Black Hat first appears in ________&quot;, how are we filling that blank? In this case, the blank is [[29: Hitler]]. As I understand it, proper style for an &quot;episode&quot; name typically is quotes, so the stip is &quot;Hitler&quot;. But there's still various options:<br /> <br /> # &quot;[[29: Hitler|Hitler]]&quot; [quotes not linked]<br /> # [[29: Hitler|&quot;Hitler&quot;]] [quotes linked]<br /> # [[29: Hitler|Comic #29]]<br /> # [[29: Hitler|#29]]<br /> # [[29: Hitler]]<br /> # &quot;[[29: Hitler|Hitler]]&quot; (29)<br /> # &quot;[[29: Hitler|Hitler]]&quot; (#29)<br /> <br /> etc.<br /> <br /> Anyone have any opinions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Option 5. above seems the simplest, yet readable and informative. At most I'd prepend a # sign, like so: #[[29: Hitler]]. Being a link should be enough to differentiate it from the rest of the text (without needing quote signs). Alternatively, #7 also may be an acceptable option, but we'd need a template to make sure the formatting is maintained in all such references... I don't think it's worth the extra complexity. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Whatever we decide, let's encode it into the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and/or &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, and just agree to use those templates. That allows central administration of the stylistic issues and gives editors a simple rule to follow. Minor tweaks to either would afford that flexibility. Right now, they generate the links {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}} respectively, though the latter can be {{explain|29: Hitler}} without much fuss. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: I support modifying the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template to be along the lines of proposal number five. {{User:Omega/sig}} 09:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: Five. yes. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sidebar icons ==<br /> <br /> Hi all. I hope you'll forgive my enthusiasm but I went ahead and implemented an icon theme for the sidebar (as well as more spacing between the links, for extra breathing room). What do you guys think of it? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :I like it, but I'm not sure where you added them. Was that on a MediaWiki: page or one of the .css pages? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Both :) [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 09:07, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cueball/Rob ==<br /> <br /> I noticed someone edited the character template to add an article for &quot;[[Rob]]&quot;. I thought this might have just been a vandal edit, but I googled 'xkcd Rob' and discovered that indeed, a Cueball chracter has been referenced as Rob in several strips. Is there a reason Cueball hasn't been designated officially &quot;Rob&quot; just as [[Megan]] has been designated Megan by being named in a few strips? Do we have reason to believe that other Cueballs are non-Rob characters? PS: this might not be the right place for this discussion, but I'm not sure if anyone is reading article discussion pages at this point yet, and I thought that the name of the primary character might be a notable issue of discussion [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: I'm unclear on this as well. Cueball was just a name made up (I think here on this site) for the main character of the comic. Are there separate characters for Cueball and Rob? I'm not sure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I know that &quot;Cueball&quot; has now been severely grandfathered in, but I think we have to consider moving [[Cueball]] over to [[Rob]] and basically considering the Cueball character to be &quot;Rob&quot;, in the same way as Megan, unless it's clear that the character isn't Rob, since Cueball, as noted, is not an official title. I'm somewhat leaning in this direction.<br /> <br /> :::I do see some leakage of the term &quot;Cueball&quot; into other sites via a google search including xkcd forums. In the alternatively, I would suggest mentioning in the Cueball article that he has been referred to as &quot;Rod&quot; in some comics, but due to his lack of distinguishing physical traits, it is not always clear if a comic is depicting Rod, or a different character. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]])<br /> ::::I have to agree with this. When I first heard about the page on &quot;Rob&quot;, I was a bit skeptical, as I couldn't recall hearing the name before and the page was ridiculous at the time. However, after looking him up to try and verify the page, I found a number of &quot;Cueball&quot; characters that were referred to as &quot;Rob&quot;, officially (and even an instance where the transcript referred to the character as &quot;Rob&quot; when the comic didn't mention a name). TL; DR: The character we've all called &quot;Cueball&quot; seems to be more properly known as &quot;Rob&quot;. {{User:Omega/sig}} 22:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::{{explain|285|Citation needed...}} I, for one, would oppose the migration away from Cueball. <br /> :::::# {{w|xkcd|Wikipedia}} has been silent on the matter, giving no more credibility to the apellation than Cueball.<br /> :::::# Transcripts in xkcd typically (granted, with a few exceptions) refer to the various stick figures as Person 1, etc. Frequently, there are several stick figures, all essentially the same generic stick-figure shape. Rob is a specific proper noun, and it would be silly to suggest that each stick figure is named Rob. Cueball, on the other hand, while filling the role of a proper noun, is still generic enough to suggest the any-man nature of the figures. It is descriptive more than nominative.<br /> :::::# Local color. That's part of what distinguishes this site from others, and part of why I've been coming back. I for one would be sad to see that replaced with MacDonalds-like sameness. I ''might'' reconsider if RM's About page definitively said &quot;his name is Rob&quot;... but only reluctantly.<br /> :::::So -1 on the proposition to migrate away from Cueball. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::To respond to your points, #1, Wikipedia is not official or a primary source; it's a community edit encyclopedia like this one. If you'd like me to go over there and reference &quot;Rob&quot;, then all of a sudden Wikipedia will say Rob. Wikipedia isn't the source of credibility for xkcd imo. #2 is interesting, and I take it as a fair point (I'm not suggesting that in every case we see a Cueball it is the same character) but my interest here is consistency. Megan appears in many comic strips where she is listed as &quot;person 2&quot; in the transcript, such as [[1084]]. Should she be given a generic name other than where she is named (Cuebelle?) Similarly for #3, Megan is not refernced on the xkcd About page; it's about consistency. I understand color and such, but to an extent, when you take something that's a blog and turn it into a wiki style pseudo-encyclopedia, one of the casualties sometimes is color. It became inappropriate to use phrases like &quot;I think&quot; in explanations just because of the way the articles are perceived. In the same way, consistency is something that I think is important when going to this style format. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::&lt;small&gt;Just want to insert here that I laughed at &quot;Cubelle&quot; above, but though I enjoyed it, I'd have to say the visual similarity to Cueball would likely cause confusion. Props for the suggestion, though.--[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 18:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; <br /> :::::::* Agreed that Wikipedia is not official or primary, but it is ''de-facto'' (it's likely more linked-to than even xkcd.com is on this site, for some reason.) That standing gives it a level of authority no other site has except the source itself. And agreed, one could very easily go and add Rob, or Cueball, or some other designation to the character(s). But nobody to date has (or, if they have, it may very likely have been reverted, being subject to that evolutionary force Wikipedia in aggregate exerts on subjects there, on needing to be noteworthy.) So while not an absolute authority, it caries a gravitas that other than xkcd itself, no other site really posesses on the matter, and so far, it (the collective body of contributors) has not deemed it important to settle the matter.<br /> :::::::* I'm also not altogether convinced that, in transmogrification from blog to wiki, it necessarily follows that we must become more Wiki''pedia''-like. The medium has afforded a democratization of information here, but not a requirement that information lose its local flavor to become some dessicated academic dissertation. &quot;I think&quot; is, in my opinion, as valid here as it always was, and mediawiki doesn't necessarily impose otherwise.<br /> :::::::* As for consistency, it serves its purpose, but generally I'm not one to be ruled by hobgoblins.<br /> :::::::Anyway, the foregoing being only my opinion, and having express it, I leave it at that. Other minds may differ. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 02:30, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::It seems to me that this discussion has moved away from Cueball/Rob, and perhaps is deserving of it's own section now. When this site was a blog, and not a wiki, there was a clear separation between Jeff's explanations in the main body of the post, and the comments below. For the most part, Jeff wrote in an &quot;editorial voice&quot;, and I don't recall a lot of &quot;I think&quot;, &quot;In my opinion&quot;, etc in the main posting (there was an occasional &quot;I don't get this, can anyone explain it?&quot;, but that's clearly different). I know, at least, I've tried to maintain that color here: in the main page, editorial voice; in the discussion section (included at the bottom of every page, usually), personal voice. I think that works well. In my opinion, I think that &quot;I think&quot; and &quot;In my opinion&quot; have no place where it's not clear who the speaker is. The main pages are group edited, and have no identified speaker, so I wouldn't put it there. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 02:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I concur that Wikipedia has ''some'' gravitas over any other site, and there is a reason it has links here (it is easier to link to an existing encyclopedia article on {{w|quantum physics}} than to start from scratch explaining it here. But in the same way that this may soon be a &quot;wikipedia&quot; for all things xkcd, that still doesn't make explainxkcd official. It may be considered a more reliable source of information than some random blogger, but that doesn't make it an official source. Wikipedia, notably, doesn't call Cueball anything. If it called him Cueball, that would be one thing - the name would have pervaded culture outside this website; but Wikipedia takes no position; I don't see how we can take Wikipedia's failure to reference the character at all and use this as a rationale to make any decision on this site one way or another.<br /> :::::::::I will respond to BlaisePascal's editorial voice comment in a new section [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Default color? ==<br /> <br /> Frankly, I'm not even sure this is an issue on the wiki's end vs. the browser's default, but I've noticed this with other wiki-based software. With the default of Blue links and Purple visited links, I've been noticing a lot lately that the Purple visited links are not really standing out from the otherwise black text. Not sure why this is. Is anyone else noticing this? I'm having a hard time finding wikilinks in text that I've already visited. Perhaps it's just me. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : As a color blind user of explainxkcd, I'd like to put in a vote to up the contrast between visited and not links on the wiki. It doesn't need to be much, but more than it is now would be infinitely helpful. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Has this gone anywhere? I still find it hard to see the visited links (they now simply look like the rest of the text). And the unvisited links are hard to focus on. I'm not sure I can explain it any better. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Please let me know where the comments are for the latest comic. If<br /> I'm not the only one who can't find them, can there be a link next to the comic?<br /> <br /> == Editorial Voice ==<br /> <br /> :''This section is split off in response to a comment by [[user:Blaisepascal]] in the Cueball/Rob discussion above.<br /> I concur with Blaisepascal on the editorial voice issue. &quot;first person&quot; has no place in a wiki, as there is no single editor to be &quot;I&quot;. I have a recollection that when the wiki started, Jeff said something about how in moving to a wiki, he had attempted to edit most of the explanations that has been moved over to remove most of the first-person references, but he invited others to continue this where he missed them. I can't, however, find this reference anywhere anymore. Assuming I am not making this up in my own mind, it's Jeff's site, so I think his style wishes are paramount.<br /> <br /> I agree that most of the personal references on explainxkcd are things like &quot;let's see if I get this right&quot; or &quot;Did I miss something?&quot; or general bloggish comments like sorry I'm late to post; but there are other posts such as [http://www.explainxkcd.com/2010/10/18/connected/ this one] in which part of Jeff's post was: &quot;''This is another one of those xkcd's that I classify as &quot;emo&quot;. [...] Since there is nothing to explain here, [...] I'll wait for the next comic that makes a joke about Lord of the Rings and wormholes or something''&quot; when moved over here.<br /> <br /> The wiki format changes the nature of the explanations. It makes them no longer one person's opinion on the meaning of a comic. It is now a wiki where members of the public will aim to have a complete and accurate explanation built from many editors' thoughts and corrections. I don't think the articles need have encyclopedic definity. I have no issue with phrases like &quot;it appears&quot; or &quot;it may be&quot; where something is ambiguous, but &quot;I think&quot; or &quot;I did a Google search&quot; are not wikipropriate. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For the most part I completely agree. But I think that the explanations should not be boring. Even without personal pronouns, many of them have a congenial tone, not an overbearing one.<br /> <br /> :For example, when I brought over [[1030: Keyed]], I took out the personal pronouns, but I left in the comment &quot;Oh Beret Guy, never change.&quot; I started coming to the site, in part, because of the tone. I think that that should be preserved despite the inherent non-oneness of the wiki. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:08, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: But the tone should not reflect individuals' tastes. Let the reader decide. --[[User:Smartin|Smartin]] ([[User talk:Smartin|talk]]) 04:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Discussion comments link? ==<br /> <br /> *Does anyone else think that the {{tl|comic discussion}} template should have an argument added for some way to display a link to the comments section of the original blog posts for older comics? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> **I'm not sure that it would always be clear what the comments are referring to since the explanation may differ from the original.-[[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 21:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ***I hear you, and that's a valid point; but it seems a shame to just discard the upwards of a hundred comments that sometimes took place on the old blog. I guess it also matters whether [[User:Jeff]] intends to delete the blog version at some point given the wiki. If it is going to stay up, why not link to the archived comments? The original blog post would be viewable there as well, if there were any differences relevant to those comments. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> *I would, however, like something to be done about the issue of new users finding the discussion section from the explain wiki main page. A suggestion I saw recently on the old site by rewq^ suggesting changing 'go to this comic' to 'comments' would solve the problem. I think it could also be changed to 'go to comments' - [[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 21:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> That's an inventive answer to an intesreting question<br /> <br /> == LiveJournal content ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that people are putting content from Randall's LiveJournal account into comic articles here, which I think is good. But I'd like to make some style suggestions around that.<br /> <br /> Let's look at {{explain|42}}. Now, until someone explicitly pointed it out, I had no idea xkcd started on a LiveJournal account, so comments like &quot;Original quote&quot; or &quot;Original comment&quot; or &quot;Original title&quot; were confusing to me. I had no idea the source of this information. Now that I know better, my suggestions are as follows:<br /> <br /> # These shouldn't be listed as &quot;trivia&quot;. This is official content. I would suggest perhaps this be included in a &quot;Background&quot; section with any other background info on the comic (e.g. for some recent comics, it might reference Randall's fiancée's health issues for relevant comics).<br /> # This &quot;Background&quot; section contains official content and more official than the &quot;Explanation&quot;. The Background section should therefore go first.<br /> # The section should be written in prose, not point form. My sample replacement for the above article would be &quot;this comic was originally posted on Randall's LiveJournal account with the comment &quot;''No laughing, 'less you want some of this too! *hefts golf club menacingly*''&quot;. Randall listed his mood at the time as &quot;sick&quot;. The comic was actually the Xth comic posted on the LiveJournal account, and was included out-of-order when it was numbered as part of ''xkcd''.<br /> # I think [[LiveJournal]] should have a brief article about the original LJ account.<br /> # I note that on other wiki's including, for example [http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Family_(episode) Memory alpha (example)] and on Wikipedia, they often have boxes showing the 'previous'/'next' things on a list (prev/next songs to hit #1 on different music charts, or prev/next tv episodes produced vs. aired). Should we give thought to creating a short sub-list of the Order comics were actually posted on the Livejournal so you can prev/next through that list?<br /> <br /> Thoughts? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 22:17, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I added most of the LJ related &quot;Trivia&quot; just to get it into the wiki. I think expanding it would be nice, but I'm a bit lazy :) I did add a new category for the LJ posts, so they should be easier to find. There are still a few that do not (that I can find) appear in LJ, so I left as &quot;undated&quot; - but added the undated category that someone else had created. I was also considering creating a list ordered by LJ posting order on the LJ category page (to be created) to at least preserve some of the nostalgia. Is there another pre-xkcd site besides LJ that posts might have appeared in? Or are these &quot;undated&quot; posts possibly others that were just lumped into the &quot;early posts&quot; on xkcd? --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 21:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There are three undated comics that I found (and I noted them on the &quot;big board&quot; of all comics at [[list of all comics]]. If no one disagrees, I will start moving sections when I have time and creating any new sections as &quot;Background&quot; rather than &quot;Trivia&quot; where the sections relate to the history or backstory of the comic itself. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::The three undated comics do not appear on LiveJournal, just on the xkcd.com site. Given that (a) all of the comics on LJ from before 2006-1-1 are dated 2006-1-1 on xkcd, (b) all the ones after are dated with the same dates as on LJ, and (c) the three undated comics appear in the middle of the pre-2006 comics on LJ, I suspect that [[Randall]] posted them to the xkcd site first, and as part of a batch of comics he posted to bootstrap the site. So it's entirely likely that the 2006-1-1 date is accurate. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 16:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I added, in the &quot;Trivia&quot; section, a &quot;thread&quot; tying all the LJ comics together, in order. In doing so, I also added the half-dozen or so LJ comics not yet added. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 16:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Programmatically Accessing Comics ==<br /> <br /> I think there should be a way for other websites to view* explanations, (discussions?), etc programmatically.<br /> <br /> This could be used for the [http://explainxkcd.com front page], or a website wanting to show an explanation of a comic that is always up-to-date and correct, etc. <br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt; I wrote view, but it could also be edit.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> :This could be done with json responses to individual pages including the current explanation for that comic. Similar to how the xkcd json api works now. I don't know if that is feasible in php though. I'm currently on a RoR craze though, so maybe there's an easier and less over-engineered solution I don't know about. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::A cheap way out would be to have PHP page access the SQL DB and yank the necessary text from there. This could be useful for a naitive mobile app. Also, this site needs a mobile version. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == New Edit Explanation Image/Link (Introduced 9/22/12) ==<br /> <br /> Some initial thoughts.<br /> *Will this be a permanent part of each comic? I would not be in favor of each comic in the archives having this disclaimer/large repetitive image as part of the explanation. Instead, can this just be part of the most recent comic? <br /> *The other issue I have is that main page now has one direct link to editing the explanation (the thing least done by users) and none to editing discussion/adding comments (the thing most done by users). I see that the talk page is now displayed on the main page, which I think is a good thing, but I hope that someone can also get the 'add a comment' link on the main page as well. <br /> *In the end I feel there should be links for editing the explanation and adding comments/discussion on the main page and that these links should be proportional in size to their traffic by users (re the link for adding to the discussion should be equal to or larger than the link for the explanation).<br /> --[[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 14:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A few pointers about that:<br /> :* I introduced the &quot;edit explanation&quot; image/link below the explanation I gave for today's comic, mainly because I felt what I had written ''was'' indeed incomplete (I was lacking an explanation for the &quot;[has only one review]&quot; part and for the title text). So in a way that was some sort of calling for help with the explanation. And once done I thought it was a good idea to have a highly visible &quot;edit&quot; link for the latest comic explanation on the main page (''&quot;so that people seeing something they could add would feel invited to do so (wiki style). In my opinion this would be a good way to improve the quality of the user-generated explanations&quot;'', as I said [[Talk:Main Page#Direct link to latest comic|here]]).<br /> :* Later on, I added the &quot;may be incorrect&quot; notion in the banner, because I saw that people having different explanations only mentioned them in the comments, instead of editing my explanation (which after all could be wrong). So I fear there's some sort of &quot;we don't touch what has been done&quot; effect, where the first explanation given will be more likely to stick and not be corrected by readers who are not used to the idea that they can edit it (actually, if someone has a better explanation than the one I put, I'd be happy to see it corrected!).<br /> :* That edit banner should not be a permanent part of each comic. My opinion is that it should stay on the latest comic's page (even when the explanation could be considered complete) until there is a new comic, in order to invite as much people as possible to share their explanation; and it should also, of course, be on the comic pages for which the explanation is considered incomplete, for instance [[51: Malaria|this]] (empty) or [[46: Secrets|that]] (partial only).<br /> :* It would be nice indeed to have also, on the main page, a direct link to add a comment (exactly like the one on [[1098: Star Ratings|the comic page]]), but that is currently not feasible automatically. This is one of the reasons why I suggested an other way to handle the latest comic (see [[#Latest comic handling]] above), which I actually still think would be better, and in particular which would allow to do all that (including the edit banner) nicely automatically from the main page.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Notice templates==<br /> I would like to suggest a template for a notice saying &quot;this page requires copy editing,&quot; and one saying &quot;this page may be unclear in its meaning,&quot; or something of the sort for each. the comic posted on 8/22/12 could use both of these. (unsigned comment by [[User:Dave|Dave]] 19:11, 23 August 2012‎ )<br /> <br /> :I agree. I discussed this matter with [[User:Blaisepascal]] in respect of his template {{tl|Incomplete}} on its talk page. I have updated that template to {{tl|Incomplete/beta1}} and created {{tl|ambox}} as a generic message box ''xkcd''-style where other message templates can be created and color coded like on wikipedia, such as the ones you suggest.<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, because of the image scaling issues, the ambox template displays two broken images at the moment which we agreed shouldn't replace the existing template until the images are unbroken. I'm not sure anyone is working on the image scaling problem, is one of the issues. In any event, I also don't see the point in creating other notice templates until the issue is fixed and we can use the standardized template. I'm really hoping someone is working on the image scaling problem... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:36, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I changed the template to use the {{tl|notice}} template that is already being used in several places. I'll delete {{tl|ambox}} as it's redundant, but the styling of {{tl|notice}} can be changed if such is desired. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 02:40, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Denoting comic &quot;series&quot; ==<br /> <br /> There are several &quot;series&quot; of comics. Is there a better/prefered way of notating these? Currently I have been creating a &quot;Category:Series Name&quot;, e.g. (not all of these exist yet)<br /> * [Category:Comics featuring Barrel Boy](1-5) (Should this be just &quot;Barrel Boy&quot;?)<br /> * [Category:Journal](1-5)<br /> * [Category:The Race](1-5)<br /> * [Category:My Hobby](random)<br /> * [Category:1337](1-5)<br /> * [Category:Choices](1-5)<br /> * [Category:Parody Week](5 in this &quot;series&quot;, but others fit the genre)<br /> * [Category:Red Spiders](4 in this &quot;genre&quot;, 2 explicitly numbered)<br /> * [Category:Secretary](1-5)<br /> * [Category:Five-Minute Comics](1-3)<br /> * [Category: Guest Week](5 comics, but not exactly a &quot;series&quot;).<br /> <br /> I usually also create a REDIRECT of &quot;Series Name&quot; to &quot;Category: Series Name&quot;(breaks for &quot;Journal&quot;, as it is also a comic title.<br /> Should we have another meta-category for series comics? What about a [Series:Series Name] &quot;category&quot;? or does that break wiki? --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 23:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categories for Proposals Page ==<br /> <br /> Maybe just simply two categories, resolved and unresolved? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> Or stickers that say Open/Closed. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Moving the Wiki {{done|Closed}}==<br /> <br /> What if explainxkcd.com/wiki was move to explainxkcd.com and explainxkcd.com would be moved to explainxkcd.com/blog? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> +1 (44)<br /> <br /> -1 (0)<br /> <br /> : That's my plan long term. That might make a lot of things like shortURL possible. Just have to get some time to get it sorted out. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> &lt;hr /&gt;<br /> Sorry if your votes don't appear immediately. I will have them update automatically soon. Hopefully. And if you clicked my signature wanting to +1 this page, sorry for the confusion. DanB and Lcarsos, your +1's have been added to the count. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :+1 from me. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 14:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :+1 as well. I keep hitting the blog when I mean to go to the wiki. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chart type comics ==<br /> <br /> Some comics (circuit diagram, US states,eyes sights, among others) are in a characteristic chart format- where it is all based around a chart of some kind or the other. Should we have a separate template for them, for the type of comics?<br /> <br /> And somebody should actually create all the pages in the required format without explanations, so that other users can fill on the explanation. I can give explanations, but need somebody to make the pages first<br /> <br /> [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 17:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :All the images have been uploaded, and a template exists at [[User:Blaisepascal/newcomictemplate]] that can be copied/pasted into a new comic page that just needs to be filled in. [[User:Lcarsos]] has written a [[User:Lcarsos#Ruby_importer_script|Ruby importer script]] that will create an almost-ready-to-upload page for you. All you need to do is fill in the explanation, proof-read, and add useful Wiki links. You don't need special privileges to create new pages.<br /> :Personally, I find comic pages devoid of explanation counter to the intent of this site, and I try not to create them. If I put up a page, I try to make sure it has an explanation. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 18:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree with Blaisepascal. If a comic does not have an explanation its page should not exist so that it is easy to tell how much work there is left to be done. If suddenly all the pages are created, but none of them have explanations, a passing user won't know that there is still work to be done, and potentially won't pitch in to help complete the site.<br /> :As far as charts go, be sure to tag them with [[:Category:Charts]] and I like to change the transcript into a wiki table format. Of course, if the page doesn't have a transcript section then be sure you get the transcript from xkcd's json api (There is information about how to work it in [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Coordination#Issue dates]], as well as my [[User:Lcarsos#Ruby Importer scipt|Ruby script]] pulls in the transcript if it exists. You're still on your own to get the explanation from the blog (I'm working on that)).<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Categories ==<br /> (cut from Chart Type Comics section above, as seems new topic) [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 00:14, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok. Also, add a new section for proposing templates. We can have a very varied range of templates, like 'Comics with Black Hat', 'Comics with Raptor reference' etc... That will provide a useful ground for comparision of the most common themes [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :From context, I assume that by &quot;templates&quot;, you mean &quot;categories&quot;? [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 18:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you'd benefit from taking a gander at [[:Category:Comics by featured characters]] and [[:Category:Comics by topic]]. I think we're still debating what to do about comics with actual people in them. But that will get you a good start. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I'd be okay with creating a [[:Category:Comics featuring real people]] and including sub-categories for Cory Doctorow, the Firefly cast, RMS, Ron Paul, and other recurring real-life people. <br /> :: But then, my general philosophy is more links, more pages, more explanation the better. One-shot fictional characters (like ponytail-Sarah in [[84: National Language]]) probably don't need their own category/page, though.[[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 02:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I really like that idea. I too am of the more categories tribe, but I prefer them to be properly nested. I want to try my hand at creating categories let me see if I can do this. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 00:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Okay, the beginnings are in place. Though I used [[:Category:Comics featuring real people]] as most comics that reference these people, in fact, feature them. I've also created a [[Playpen balls]] category under [[:Category:Comics by topic]] as it seems to me that it's referenced enough that it's necessary.<br /> <br /> ::::Question: Should we mirror Featured Characters by also having a page for each character and a Category:Real people, or will the Category pages be good enough?<br /> <br /> ::::The categories are going to get/are getting crowded with all the categories, is there a better way to represent them rather than a list? I'm thinking something that looks like [[:Template:navbox-characters]] except it needs to maintain the link on highlighted items, and it needs to be capable of multiple highlights. I think it would need sections for Featured Characters, Real people, Series (Barrel boy, Secretary, The Race), and Recurring Topics. What I mean by multiple highlights is, if they exist in that comic, i.e. if a comic features Black Hat, Cueball, Cory Doctorow, and Playpen balls, all of those should be highlighted.<br /> <br /> ::::[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 02:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> It looks like a good time to resurrect this topic. So, If you are going to categorize pages into a category that doesn't exist yet. MAKE SURE that you create the category page, don't just let it be a red link. That looks so sloppy. While on the subject of sloppy, Alphabetize by type the categories on the comic page. I go: Main characters, minor characters, real people, topics, series.<br /> <br /> My personal requirements for making a category:<br /> *For new topics<br /> **For new topics, must be the central topic of ''at least'' two comics, with a few more tangentially related.<br /> **It should be something that someone reads and goes &quot;I wonder if there are more comics about this?&quot; It is not simply creating a tag cloud for a post on a blog. That metaphor is gone. These are categories, like sections in an index to a book, or rather an ''encyclopedia''.<br /> **A perfect example of this is [[User:Bpothier|Bpothier]]'s introduction of [[:Category:Comics with color]]. I've often wanted a list of all xkcds to date that have color on them. You'll know you've hit on something when another editor starts going through the pages and adding them to the new category.<br /> *For new recurring characters<br /> **They must recur. This seems obvious, but Adrian Lamo (for example, {{Wiktionary|AFAIK}}), only appears in [[1337: Part 3]]. This is a useless category if there are no other comics he appears in. It only goes to clutter up other, well populated categories.<br /> *For other new categories<br /> **You better have a damn solid case for why you have added a category that wasn't a sub-category of [[:Category:Comics by topic]] or [[:Category:Comic series]]. ''And if you do'', '''be polite''' and present it on the community portal so that the circling editors don't come in like brain-dead vultures to tear apart and re-parent your new category.<br /> <br /> It is brain dead easy to create a page (spam bots do it all the time). It is much more complicated to get a page deleted by an admin once it has been created. You can tag it [[:Category:Pages to delete]], but non-spam pages marked this aren't often cleaned out. What I'm trying to say here is, be judicious in picking the names of pages you want to create. It's a pain to have to move Comics featuring Barrel Boy into a [[Barrel]] category.<br /> <br /> Also, categorizing a page as something because of the explanation is not ok. These categories are here to group comics together, not as a general tag cloud for the wiki.<br /> <br /> '''TL;DR:''' When creating a new category, create the goddamn category page (red links icky) and have ''at least'' 2 pages in the category. For big changes come here and ask first. [http://dontbeadickday.com/ Wil Wheaton says: &quot;Don't be a dick!&quot;]<br /> <br /> Questions, comments, improvements, pies to the face accepted. Being-non-useful/criticism-with-intent-to-destroy is rude.<br /> <br /> [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No, Lcarsos, don't hold back; please tell us what you really think! ;-) All kidding aside, these suggestions seem really pretty good. There may be some subjectivity in terms of what constitutes contributing to a tag cloud vs the categorization you mention here. But as you point out, that understanding is likely to evolve: if one creates a category that somebody else runs with it, that's a pretty good indicator. I'm glad this categorization has been going on as it has; were it not for my ''de facto'' role as ''Grim Spammer-Reaper'' I'd be in there helping sort and categorize 'em all, too. So huge thanks! -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Just to clarify, I assume what you mean by &quot;''Alphabetize by type the categories on the comic page. I go: Main characters, minor characters, real people, topics, series.''&quot; is that one should ''group'' categories by type, and then alphabetize within them? If that's the case, I don't see any major issue with that; that said, I tend to add categories by deemed 'importance', i.e. I would add comics featuring Cueball before comics featuring Black Hat or Beret Guy just because Cueball is the central character in the series. Similarly, I would also reorder so that &quot;series&quot; comes before topic, if not before characters as well. The first category a &quot;My Hobby&quot; comic comes into, in my mind, is the &quot;My Hobby&quot; category. Only then is it a comic that happens to feature Cueball, or happens to be on the topic of computers. That's my personal view of it. The only reason I would keep characters first is because it's the most common category type a comic will fall into. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Randall in Comics ==<br /> <br /> In comic 541 (TED Talk), Randall uses a Cueball character to refer to himself. How should this be included in the Wiki? Cited: http://xkcd.com/541/ AWiseGuy (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think, since he also seems to appear as himself in [[1057: Klout]] it would be appropriate to create a [[:Category:Comics featuring Randall Munroe]] and parent it to [[:Category:Comics featuring real people]]. I'll let you do that. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:51, 1 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Characters appearing only by name. ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that in several comics, known and named characters appear by name only without any physical appearance. Off the top of my head, I can think of Miss Lenhart (who actually appears twice by name before making her first real appearance: http://xkcd.com/135/ and in http://xkcd.com/416/) and Rob in comic 1102. I think these should be included as appearances, or under some other related but separate category, because they do provide character development. Thoughts on this? [[User:AWiseGuy|AWiseGuy]] ([[User talk:AWiseGuy|talk]]) 19:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> :I consider references to be apperances. Anyone interested in reading all comics relating to that character or looking for a specific comic featuring that character might be remmebering one where it was a mention by name, not by apperance, and they should be included in the categories for ease of reference, IMO. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:13, 4 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> There's also Cory Doctorow, and I personally would like to know more about him. I came to explainxkcd to find out who he is, and he's not even mentioned. So he should be added to this list of characters by name.{{unsigned|‎205.189.255.122}}<br /> <br /> == Also explain cartoons from the XKCD book? ==<br /> <br /> Hi!<br /> As many of you surely know, many comics from the main site were featured in the book xkcd: volume 0. Some of them where altered or had extra explanations. Moreover, there where quite a few riddles and new comics in the book, which should be explained here, too. The forums did a great job on solving the great big riddles which lead to the legendary &quot;official&quot; XKCD-meetup with Randall. --[[Special:Contributions/137.193.213.160|137.193.213.160]] 09:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Oops, for got to log in, this suggestion came from me: [[User:Gefrierbrand|Gefrierbrand]] ([[User talk:Gefrierbrand|talk]]) 09:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just add 'explain' before the 'xkcd.com' ==<br /> <br /> You know how you there are services like [http://www.youtuberepeat.com YouTube Repeat] which let you go to the corresponding part of their site by just adding `repeat` before the `.com` of the YouTube video URL?<br /> <br /> Likewise, let us just add `explain` before the `xkcd.com` part in any comic URL and let it redirect us to the appropriate wiki post. For example: `explainxkcd.com/1000` would redirect to `http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1000`. I think since the site is based on PHP, it'd be very easy to just send a 301 Redirect header along.<br /> <br /> This will be of immense comfort and will probably see me and others using ExplainXKCD.com a lot mre ! Happy reading :)<br /> <br /> {{unsigned|YatharthROCK|15:17, 16 September 2012}}<br /> <br /> :In a way, that's the plan... per [[#Moving the Wiki ✓ Closed|#Moving the Wiki]] above, the `/wiki` part would disappear, and with shortURL at the same time (mentioned there and at other places as well), the `index.php?title=` would disappear as well. Therefore, explainxkcd.com/1000 would get you the [[1000]] page, which itself redirects to the explanation of the comic ([[1000: 1000 Comics]]). So I guess the only issue is: when will this be done?... - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 10:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: I'd LOVE this working. I've worked on this a bunch and only succeeded in bricking the site. If anyone has any advice, I'd love the help. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't think that there is a wiki way to do this, as I've never set up mediawiki before (I should get around to it though). But from 10,000 feet it appears to me that all of the wiki software lives inside a /wiki/ directory on the server, and the blog lives in the root directory. Currently, all of mediawiki's pages are being generated by being passed GET variables, and all of WordPress' pages are being generated by its use of mod_rewrite (why the difference, I don't know. I've never set up mediawiki, and thus never had to try to get mod_rewrite working for it). This is a problem, because any url sent to the server such as explainxkcd.com/1000 is causing the server to look for a directory named 1000, and when it doesn't find it, it invokes mod_rewrite and passes 1000 to the index.php of the root directory as a search term, which activates WordPress which searches for any entries dated in the year 1000 (Wordpress treats the first &quot;directory&quot; as the year), naturally none exist so WordPress generates a 404 error.<br /> <br /> :::While the blog exists, I think the only way to do this would be to write a .htaccess that conditionally reroutes directory misses to /wiki/ so something like explainxkcd.com/1000 would be sent to explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1000 but explainxkcd.com/2012/04 would still be sent to WordPress to find entries posted in April 2012.<br /> <br /> :::As soon as we can get rid of the blog (which is not yet, because there are a lot of explanations still there that haven't been migrated over) the logic that has to be in the .htaccess becomes much simpler. Anything gets redirected to explainxkcd.com/wiki/. I say anything, and I mean anything because URI requests for anything under explainxkcd.com/wiki/ apache will find the /wiki/ directory and pass everything into there (mod_rewrite or as it currently is) and anything not matchin the /wiki/ directory can be 302'd into /wiki/ for the wiki to find it.<br /> <br /> :::I hope that makes sense. If that's too long, let me sum up. '''TL;DR:''' Not very feasible until all explanations in the blog are in the wiki and we can get rid of WordPress.<br /> <br /> :::--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Yup - I certainly would be using htaccess file and that's the approach that has NOT worked in the past. It is possible it needs some tweaking so that it works for the wiki. I'm not sure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: What if you had a script to make a redirect file to the wiki with that comic. So it would make a file 1, 2, ..., 473, ..., etc. Each file (eg 1111) would redirect to /wiki/index.php?title=1111. Then when a better solution is invented, a simple regex ([0-9]+\.php or [0-9]+\.html) would remove all the unnecessary files. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]] 15:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hi, joining the conversation: Could we perhaps also ask the original administrator of explainxkcd to redirect the address of his site here? It'll be easier to get here and it might generate more traffic as well. --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 01:48, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The person you would want to talk about that is Jeff. The very same Jeff that started, and is bureaucrat of this wiki. So, read the conversation that happened above, and you'll see some of the technical reasons why this hasn't happened yet. And again, I ask that you please comment in chronological order, and that you don't add your comment in a place that it disrupts all of the nested conversation that's already happened. There was an entire comment thread that you put your new comment in the middle of. It was hard to tell if you wanted to reply to this section's OP or anyone else in that thread. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 08:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Add explanations for what-if.xkcd.com ==<br /> A new [http://what-if.xkcd.com sub-site] from Randall calls for new explanations.<br /> This might not need quite as much explaining, but it is worthy of reference anyway.<br /> --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 16:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think Randall actually does quite a good job of explaining everything in what-if. If we had a go at it, it would pretty much just be a page with a link to general and special relativity pages of wikipedia. Other than that, he provides links for almost everything he discusses. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:21, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But we may want to discuss his topics among ourselves. I am reading the lightning topic today, and wishing I could comment on it or add fragments of my own experience to it.[[User:Noni Mausa|Noni Mausa]] ([[User talk:Noni Mausa|talk]]) 11:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> ::...then you have http://forums.xkcd.com, made exactly for that purpose; in particular: [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=94449 xkcd • View topic - What-if 0016: Lightning].<br /> ::Don't want to seem unfriendly here, I'm not trying to &quot;get you out of here&quot;, it's just that if you want to ''discuss his topics'', ''comment on it or add fragments of your own experience to it'', then I believe that would be the best place for you to do so; and where you could find other people to share it, as well.<br /> ::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 17:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Thanks, I will go have a look. I'm somewhat of a newbie, quod erat demonstrandum.[[User:Noni Mausa|Noni Mausa]] ([[User talk:Noni Mausa|talk]]) 02:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == News Links ==<br /> Certain pages have custom news links.<br /> Many use the generic news link, which these days refers to what-if.xkcd.com.<br /> Template &quot;comic&quot; should probably explcitly support and display custom news.<br /> (An effort should be made at times to scan for updated news.)<br /> --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 16:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> : And, of course, there should be a category for anything with custom news. --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 16:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New List requests ==<br /> <br /> List of comics related to cancer -<br /> (Umwelt, 818,828,836,925,931,933)<br /> <br /> [Keep on adding new requests below this]<br /> [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 18:24, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> : Good suggestion. One observation... this is essentially a democratic institution, so feel free to put the catagory tags on each of these pages and get those editorial props due to you for recommending the category. I'm guessing &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Category:Cancer]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; should be a good start. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 23:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Disambiguation ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I think we need to start considering disambiguation pages.<br /> <br /> Off the top of my head there's<br /> *[[17: What If]] and [[what if?]]<br /> *[[786: Exoplanets]] and [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> <br /> If you search &quot;what if&quot; the redirect takes you to the [[17: What If]]. I've added a note to that page that links to [[what if?]].<br /> <br /> [[Exoplanets]] (the title redirect) is an informal disambiguation page. But, neither comic links to the other one in case someone clicks links and gets to the wrong page.<br /> <br /> In terms of notes on pages that there is a disambiguation page that they might be looking for, I think that the note should be made under the comic template so that people clicking the next/previous links don't have to move their cursor (I find nothing more infuriating than having a next/previous link move around as I'm browsing a website).<br /> <br /> Anyone else? Thoughts? [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:42, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == RSS Feed ==<br /> <br /> We need a new RSS feed so people using news readers can easily be notified of new comics. {{unsigned|67.186.234.12}}<br /> <br /> :First and foremost, a disambiguation: '''We are not xkcd'''. We are a group of people who love xkcd and sometimes a joke goes over our head, and we'd go into fits of OCD rage if we don't understand every joke in xkcd.<br /> <br /> :If you want to read xkcd, subscribe to the RSS feed that [[Randall]] provides. [http://xkcd.com/rss.xml here's a link] A new xkcd is posted at midnight eastern (US East coast) of every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.<br /> <br /> :We are just here for the explanation, which is community based. It takes quite a few edits from many people before an explanation is really explained-to-death and every joke found and beaten with a club to extract maximum joke-explanation value. But there's usually a fairly substantial effort at an explanation by noon eastern. That's about the best we can offer you.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:19, 12 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comic Difficulty score ==<br /> <br /> We should add a difficulty score to each page. Each XKCD comic could be awarded a score based on the number of people that have to visit explainxkcd.com on the day a comic is posted and a couple days after. Inspired by comic: http://www.xkcd.com/1137/<br /> <br /> Jim<br /> <br /> :That is a cool idea! --[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:06, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Contributions and revert buttons ==<br /> <br /> The main vandalism comes from IP adresses, and one IP may attack more than one page when it logs on. So its best to have a contributions link show up beside user page and talk page for every page history and signature; and wherever else it is used that way.<br /> <br /> Also a quick way to deal with vandalism is to have two buttons on the show history page-<br /> 1. Revert this edit [undo] (for all, including IP users, not just normal users)<br /> 2. Revert to this edit (Just beside every edit on the edit history)<br /> <br /> These two buttons (links, whatever u call them) will make it much more efficient for vandal-reverters to tackle them down.<br /> <br /> [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 20:08, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Oh and an easy template to keep tagging vandals, and vandalism affected articles, as well as a quick way to say that whatever we are doing is editing vandalism. I truly would not want to press any more than 4 buttons/clicks ideally on one page when I am trying to revert edits.<br /> <br /> The tagging vandals and vandalism affected pages will help admins keep fast track of whos the worst vandal and block that range of IPs from editing (except to submit edit request to admins) and which are worst affected pages (to protect them) [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 20:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Subsection for title text explanation ==<br /> <br /> Hey! On trial I created subsections for some longer explanations of the title text on some pages, like this: [[804: Pumpkin Carving#Explanation]]. Do you think that is helpful? – [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:22, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Good idea. In some cases it might be the best choice. I just did that on [[1074: Moon Landing]] too :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Making a special sub-section for the title text only makes sense for large explanations. Explanations that are maybe only 2-3 scrappy paragraphs, and then an explanation of the title text, is not so dense that it is hard to find it. I like this as an idea, but I think that only the really large explanations should have the subsection. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 16:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Explain other webcomics too? ==<br /> <br /> How about we explain other webcomics too, e.g. Penny Arcade? --[[User:SurturZ|SurturZ]] ([[User talk:SurturZ|talk]]) 02:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Good god, no. We've barely even finished xkcd. All these explanations pages still need a lick of polish, and there's still heaps of red links in the list of all comics page. Also, the wiki's called explainxkcd. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 02:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whatever Happened to the Template? &amp; Transcript Redirect ==<br /> <br /> I've been using the template whenever I make a new page for an explanation, but I think it's been gone for a couple of weeks now. Does anyone think they could possibly resurrect it? I'm just here to explain, I'm really not a pro with the technical details, so please bear with me.<br /> <br /> Also, I got to thinking: In the List of All Comics, there are redirects for the Number, the Title, and the Talk pages, but has anyone thought about making a redirect for the transcript? I'm pushing for transcript help in a bunch of different areas mostly because I think people have been filling it in themselves without going to the site.<br /> --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 02:07, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Add unexplained strips ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, browsing through the explanations using the previous and next buttons is interrupted whenever there's an explanation missing.<br /> <br /> I think adding a page with the strip fr all of those with a short message like &quot;no one has explained this yet, want to give it a shot?&quot; would make the wiki easier to browse through and will get more strips explained faster.<br /> <br /> :I don't think that would happen. If suddenly it was much easier for people to skip over pages that had no explanation, I think they would do exactly that, skip right over it. On the same side of that coin, If suddenly there are no longer any red links on the [[List of all comics]] then everyone perusing that page assumes that all the comics have been explained and don't need to contribute any more. It's astonishing how quickly an [[589: Designated Drivers|embedded]] red link gets an explanation page created simply to get rid of the red link.<br /> <br /> :Secondarily, ''many'' of the pages created recently aren't being created with their numerical and titular redirects. Without the numerical redirect, the comic template can't find that there is a previous/next comic to link to. Every once in a while somebody will go through and try to notice all the pages that don't have their redirects created but it's an unscientific process that only happens occasionally. If we could get every joe blow that comes in and vomits up a poorly done explanation to create the redirects I wouldn't be quite as annoyed at their lack of show-don't-tell-manship. But, since they can't be bothered to put the date in the comic template, I doubt we'll ever get people to create the redirects.<br /> <br /> :'''TL;DR:''' No more red links, no more work gets done on the back catalog.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 14:28, 21 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xplainkcd.com ==<br /> <br /> When I first saw this site I thought it should definitely be at xplainkcd.com or at least redirect from that url {{unsigned|115.166.22.158|12:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> : I like that idea! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah! If it's possible, it would be cool! At least as a redirect. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Section style and usage ==<br /> <br /> I am new here and I'm trying to get up to speed with the culture. I have a few questions about how and where to use sections (== this ==). I am more willing to go with (and enforce) whatever norms there are here, but I have not seen them actually discussed. <br /> <br /> # '''Is it OK to create sections in Discussion pages?''' I have been told no, but there are many examples extant of this usage in this Wiki and indeed in Wikipedia.<br /> # '''Section title case''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Acronyms Wikipedia's style guide] recommends sentence case, not title case. There are many title cased section headers here. <br /> # '''Links''' I do not have a reference for this but it seems to me putting links in section code (== [[&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;this&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] == ) is bad form. <br /> <br /> Last note -- it's understood if these bylaws have not yet been written. I can see that a few of you have made a huge personal investment to make this Wiki what it is today, and that is a credit to you all -- this is awesome! As a long-time aficionado of xkcd I applaud your work and look forward to further collaboration.<br /> --[[User:Smartin|Smartin]] ([[User talk:Smartin|talk]]) 04:15, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As a general rule, we stick to the standard format that existing pages follow, with an optional trivia section below the transcript. Some zealous editors like to add other sections though, which tend to be for the most part unneeded or redundant. If something you want to add doesn't help to explain the comic in some way, but the inclusion of which would somehow still add to the page, *and* it doesn't fall under the trivia category, a new section is warranted. This isn't the case most of the time though, so editors usually fold the content of extraneous sections into &quot;Explanation&quot; or &quot;Trivia.&quot; We have no policy on links in titles, and they're allowed so long as they are appropriate; the link is useful and can't be folded into the section itself. And we use title case for titles cuz it just makes sense. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We generally do not (or at least, discourage) use sections on the talk/discussion pages for explanation pages. This is purely for looks. The comic discussion section of the explanation page looks/feels wrong if there are level 2 section breaks in the transclusion. Also, if the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Table_of_contents Table of Contents] starts showing up on a page, such as on [[Click and Drag]] the sections created on the talk page also show up in the TOC. This gets confusing, and this is why we prefer not to use them on explanation talk pages. Everywhere else we follow standard wiki format and do use sections on the discussion pages.<br /> <br /> :Personally, I think that links in section titles looks wrong, but I choose not to be the dictator of style in this matter. :p<br /> <br /> :Please feel free to make edits. The worst that happens is someone reverts your edit. If it's a big enough issue and/or you don't seem to be learning from what people are fixing about your edits someone will leave a comment on your talk page. That's it. We might leave a nasty-gram in the edit summary, but oh well. We only ban for malicious intent. Honestly working to better the wiki is good, even if sometimes we grumble about it.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh, I just looked at your talk page. I completely forgot that that happened. Don't worry about it. Learning the ropes is part of the experience. Do make edits, and if they're wrong, we'll nudge you in the right direction. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I have been moving some trivia sections to directly below the explanation, in order to make it more consistent, and easier to survey and maintain. Often the dividing line between trivia and explanation is not entirely clear, and in articles without a trivia section the end of the explanation very often contains trivia-like information. (e.g. [[1155: Kolmogorov Directions]]) -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protip ==<br /> <br /> Anyone for adding ''Protip'' as a [[:Category:Comic series|Comic series]]. I have found five so far: [[653]], [[711]], [[1022]], [[1047]] and [[1156]]. (There are also a few comics with a protip title text.) -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think that qualifies as a recurring topic (thus worthy of a category), but not as a series, where you can see a clear sequence. In fact, [[:Category:My Hobby|My Hobby]] has the same limitation, for what I suggest it to be removed from [[:Category:Comic series]]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Seconded. Looks general and common enough to be a category. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Okay, great! Do you think that the ones with a &quot;protip:&quot; title text should be included? Besides, I think I might be the one responsiple for moving My Hobby from [[:Category:Comics by topic|Comics by topic]] to Comic series. I felt that all the My Hobby comics were about different topics, but maybe i've got to narrow an interpretation of the word &quot;topic&quot;. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Can you link to the protip-in-title-text comics?<br /> :::: As for My Hobby, note that categories aren't mutually exclusive. They can be in the &quot;my hobby&quot; topic, and each of them further categorized as appropriate: music, math, etc. Makes sense? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: I just searched for protip in the xkcd search bar. Here: [[1084]], [[427]]. And yes, makes sense. I've moved My Hobby back to &quot;by topic&quot;. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Category: Sports ==<br /> <br /> How about creating a new &quot;Sports&quot; category? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 15:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Well, maybe. Everyone aren't so keen on new categories here. Which comics are you thinking of, for a start? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 20:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::We definitely need to reach an agreement as a community on when to create new categories. Something simple like a minimum of 3 (or, say, 5) existing comics. Since we're already at the proposals' portal... what do you guys think about that? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::My opinion: Five would be enough to qualify. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 09:31, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I vote for four. But it should also be a reasonable thing to categorize, like sports, not like &quot;sports with Cueball containing at least three anagram words&quot;. Wich sholdn't be a problem. :) But the best name choice could be tricky sometimes. e.g. &quot;Film &amp; television&quot;, Film &amp; TV&quot;, &quot;Film&quot;, &quot;Films&quot;, or &quot;Movies&quot;? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::<br /> ::::Agreed, five should be enough to create the category without having to discuss it. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> : OK, let's start with [[588: Pep Rally|588]], [[1092: Michael Phelps|1092]], [[904: Sports|904]] and [[1107: Sports Cheat Sheet|1107]]. Should be able to find a few more. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 05:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, it's a broad subject so there are probably several more. -[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::I found another one, sort of, in [[929:Speculation|929]] (although it hasn't been explained yet). Should I get the ball rolling (no pun intended) on setting up the category? Don't wanna do it unilaterally and get yelled at. ;) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 06:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think you should. On a wiki, getting stuck in discussions which die without a conclusion, to the point that motivated people give up without having done anything, is definitely counter-productive, and phrases like [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|Wikipedia:Be bold]] are here to remind us of that. Seems like people agreed that you ''could'', and after a while nobody said that you ''shouldn't'', so I'd say do it. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Category: Sex ==<br /> <br /> I think we should also create a Sex category. There's no ''doubt'' we can find more than three examples. I'll start looking for them and post the ones I find in here; again, I don't wanna create a large category by myself without community consent. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 09:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> *OK, the ones for Category: Sex that I've found so far are [[443]], [[219]], [[550]], [[1026]], [[575]], [[468]], [[592]], [[320]], [[1101]], [[417]], [[713]], [[672]], [[230]], [[436]], [[940]], [[532]], [[649]], [[176]], [[1006]], [[596]] and [[717]], and I'm sure there are many more. Should we create this category? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 23:17, 3 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Same as [[#Category: Sports|above]], do it. Oh, already did; well, all the better. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==New character==<br /> As per [[Talk:1178: Pickup Artists]], the character with hair has appeared in quite a few comics now, and he's starting to become a recurring character. Shall we go ahead with inaugurating him into our list of regular characters, and what name shall we assign him? Current candidate names include Hairy and Harry. Anyone? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 00:07, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I like Harry :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 01:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Cos made a point in the discussion on [[Talk:1178: Pickup Artists]] that Hairy is directly descriptive, whereas Harry is not obvious to visitors. On the other hand, not all names are descriptive ([[Danish]]) and I think this wiki is entitled to create some xkcd-in-culture, and not just describe. And Harry is quite funny.<br /> ::I wonder: has [[Randall]] ever called him anything at all in the transcript? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, he's not named in a any official transcripts, but he's already called Harry in quite a few comic explanations. Then again, I do like having a more descriptive name for him. Shall we hold this up to a vote? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think we should wait a little for a few more viewpoints to crop up. Also, can someone link to some more comics he's been featured in? I've got [[1028: Communication]], [[1027: Pickup Artist]] and [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 23:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::I actually like what that anon said: ''Curly''. Second choice: Hairy (being descriptive, a la Black Hat, Beret, Cueball, etc.) While there's talk about in-culture, we've done that with the names Cueball, Beret, etc. It's my opinion that the only names that should be &quot;real&quot; proper names are those that are named in the comic. Megan, Miss Lenhart, etc. Danish (as is discussed below) isn't truly a proper name, but you could argue it's a meta-description (one attributed by Black hat.) So that's my vote: yes for '''Curly''' or '''Hairy''', no for Harry. [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::That's right, [[Danish]] is not descriptive, but 1/ that name was suggested because the character [[515: No One Must Know|was called that way in the comic]], which is a tiny bit like a name given by the author (at least more than Harry which we have completely made up), and 2/ in that case it's hard to find a descriptive term: use something that revolves around her black hair (her only descriptive feature), and you easily mix up with [[Megan]]; the only graphical difference is that her hair is ''long'', but what kind of name can you make out of that?<br /> :::For this new character, I suggest Hairy because it comes as the easy solution with every advantage: descriptive, easy to understand, and it's not ugly... I actually see no reason to resort to a made-up name like Harry.<br /> :::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 22:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : '''Alright. So the discussion's been had, and the most oft recommended name appears to be Hairy. All in favor, say aye. If more than 1/3 of editors agree and we have more than 6 votes, Hairy it is.''' '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' [[User:Guru-45|Guru-45]] ([[User talk:Guru-45|talk]]) 06:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' to Hairy. [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. Harry would be a nice nod to the fact that he's actually hairy, but indeed it's better to avoid inside jokes. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. I'm convinced! –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 17:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. Hairy. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Hooray! We now have a [[:Category:Comics featuring Hairy]], with four pages already! Does anyone feel compelled to create &quot;[[Hairy]]&quot;, with a brief description and a nice profile pic like the other characters? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:58, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ambiguous characters ==<br /> <br /> I've been thinking about the problem of the ambiguity of characters. &quot;Is this really Cueball even though he has an eye and half a nose?&quot;, &quot;This is very likely ''not'' x.&quot; &quot;Darnit, these arn't Cueballs, these are Randall and his friends!&quot;, and so on. The character ambiguity is standard for xkcd (not less so in the early ones), and comes from the very loose or &quot;free&quot; way Randall uses his characters to be whatever he needs at the moment. It's simply often impossible for us to know whether he had e.g. &quot;Cueball&quot; or himself in mind, when drawing a particular comic (and I'd say: probably often both).<br /> <br /> I want to suggest that we in general have a likewise rather loose policy towards including characters in the categories for the comics. So that reasonably ambiguous cases should be included in e.g. [[Category: Comics featuring Ponytail]] (does she have a ponytail?) This is not because I believe this or that to really be this or that; I just don't believe in objective truth (here!). I feel that when doing research :) on a character, the borderline cases are often the most interesting ones, and you want to be able to find them through the &quot;Comics featuring miss x&quot;!<br /> <br /> I came to think this through now, when I wanted to (and did) list two comics with [[Miss Lenhart]] (?) where she was drawn but not named. Any thoughts on this in general? Other case studies? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :My take has always been that [[Cueball]], for example, has not been a specific character. There is not ''a'' cueball, per se, distinct from any other cueball... indeed, there are several comics with several cueballs in-frame, and that is the point. I see the cueball character as a wildcard character (pun intended) ready to stand in for anybody (and ''not'' necessarily just Randall; I think those readers who suggest &quot;this ''is'' Randall&quot; are missing the point; he's way more META than that...) [[Megan]], while slightly less generic, still remains the female wild-card significant-other, while Curls seems to be a not-significant-other female used to illustrate a relationship that is transient. Other characters come and go, and when it's important to visually distinguish them from others in the frame, they're given additional characteristics, to wit [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], etc.<br /> :Unfortunately, that viewpoint is not commonly held, so I daresay I'm in the minority here.<br /> :-- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Note at the top, about the server error ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread was moved to [[MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice]]''<br /> <br /> == Category: Flowcharts ==<br /> <br /> Hello, the line &quot;Randall has made use of flowcharts before.&quot; in today's comic explanation made me want a [[:Category:Flowcharts|flowcharts category]] to navigate into...<br /> <br /> As it didn't exist, I proceeded to create it, but as the log says, [[User:lcarsos|lcarsos]] deleted such a category in November, saying ''&quot;Insufficient differentiation from Category:Comics with charts, diluting the depth of comics tagged charts&quot;''.<br /> <br /> I don't agree with that, and I think we could profit from such a subcategory. I found those pages fitting it:<br /> * [[94: Profile Creation Flowchart]]<br /> * [[210: 90's Flowchart]]<br /> * [[488: Steal This Comic]]<br /> * [[627: Tech Support Cheat Sheet]]<br /> * [[844: Good Code]]<br /> * [[851: Na]]<br /> * [[854: Learning to Cook]]<br /> * [[1195: Flowchart]]<br /> <br /> So? - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 10:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Weell if you're willing to take charge of the category and personally make sure it's added to all relevant comic explanations, go ahead. The usual objection to making new categories is that we admins can't remember all the categories when we're reviewing new explanations, but it's K if you're willing to take up that responsibility yourself. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> :: OK. I did it without waiting for further replies, because I think it will be especially profitable today (to viewers).<br /> :: It doesn't seem a big issue to me if the correct category is not added when a new explanation is made: a passing editor will do it later on... But hey, I'm OK with taking special care of adding pages to this category.<br /> :: [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 12:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I just want to add that Cos' view is indeed the appropriate way to work in wikis: there is no concept of a single author for a page, category, or piece of text, and the workload is meant to be distributed among several editors: it is not necessary that any single editor remembers all existing categories, or knows the wiki markup by heart, or knows how to work with all the features of mediawiki, etc. The reason why wikis can be edited by anyone is precisely a recognition that there *will* be errors and any page can be improved somehow. That reasoning against categories should, IMO, be abandoned, or at most only kept as the opinion of some editors. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 22:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Isnt there a page which lists all the categories? If not, there should be one, and it should be accessible to all. Such a page could be useful when trying to quick-add categories to comics. [[Special:Contributions/117.194.83.155|117.194.83.155]] 13:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, there is. [[Special:Categories]]. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:07, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> This does move it to above the line, and the rule stops early. Undo my change if that's more bothering than when the TOC is displayed as &quot;add a comment!Discussion&quot;... <br /> <br /> I don't know how to automatically treat level 2 headers as level 3. That may be why Discussion was a level 1 heading earlier.<br /> [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Actually I now noticed there was a short edit war at {{tl|comic discussion}} over whether it should be a level 1 heading, just for this reason. [[User:Waldir]] seems to have conceeded... [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:25, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: No edit war, hence no (intentional) concession. I reverted a change once, and didn't notice the change being re-implemented by another user. In any case, it is irrelevant now since we actively discourage using headers in talk pages precisely so that they don't display in the TOC for the main comic page, where the discussion page is transcluded to (see the discussion [[#Section style and usage|above]]). This might not scale well for comics that generate lots of discussion. It might be worth discussing our customs (and perhaps write them down somewhere) before performing such changes. What do others think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:49, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Time: The Table ==<br /> <br /> Right now on the page [[1190: Time]], we have a whole bunch of tables in the form image-time-hash. The tables take up heaps of vertical space and all have to be collapsed to even be remotely traversible. I propose that we aggregate all the images into one table after Time ends, like so:<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> |-<br /> |[[Media:time.png|00:00]]||01/00:00||[[Media:time.png|10:00]]||01/10:00||[[Media:time.png|20:00]]||01/20:00||[[Media:time.png|30:00]]||AND MOAR SAMPLE DATAS<br /> |-<br /> |[[Media:time.png|00:30]]||01/00:30||[[Media:time.png|10:30]]||01/10:30||[[Media:time.png|20:30]]||01/20:30||[[Media:time.png|30:30]]||AND MOAR SAMPLE DATAS<br /> |}<br /> <br /> The hash values aren't really a part of the comic, they're gibberish for the most part and they take up space that could be used to compact the table, as shown above. Even if we are conservative and make the table only five columns wide to account for smaller screens, we've divided scrolling time by five and eliminated much of the need for annoying collapsed tables and section headers for each day. Constructing the table shouldn't be particularly hard either, as all our current data is in nice regular tables with clear patterns that are easy enough to parse through. <br /> <br /> I'm putting this here because the organization of the frame entries would be unintuitive and difficult to change from the edit window, which would make it a poor choice when we're still expanding it and don't even know how long the comic will continue for. It's merely a space-saving trick for after we're sure that the comic is over. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 09:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh and it'd be really nice if other people could also upload images if you're awake and a new one rolls by. There's gaps in the image record every time I wake up, and I dun likey. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:34, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Good work so far; go ahead make it better! :) –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Featured Explanation, and Archival?==<br /> <br /> * Wikipedia has featured content. Now that we are close to reaching the goal of all comics explained, I think it makes more sense to have a &quot;featured explanation&quot; which would serve as a sort of a marker for a complete and good explanation. Many comics, and almost all charts are not fully explained/not a good quality explanation.<br /> <br /> * We should set up archival of discussion of the most discussed pages, like this one. Its not very pleasing to see comments from July 2012 still lying around here. It becomes hectic at some point.<br /> <br /> Just my 2 cents, feel free to discuss. Cheers,<br /> [[Special:Contributions/117.194.88.180|117.194.88.180]] 13:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We dedicate this wiki to explaining xkcd, and we do actually have a featured comic feature; it changes every week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and we usually manage to fill out the explanation for it within an hour or so of it going up. The most recent comic tends to be the one that most people visiting the wiki care about, so we give it prime space on the front page so they can find it easily. xkcd updates frequently enough that there isn't really that big of a time window for us to feature an article on our front page. Also, we're a volunteer project with quite a bit less manpower than Wikipedia.<br /> :We do need to archive talk pages though. Some of these are getting ridiculously long. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree with Davidy22. Archiving topics can be done by anyone, by moving resolved threads to the portal section's corresponding [[explain xkcd talk:Community portal/Proposals|talk page]]. We could start with the threads marked &quot;✓ Closed&quot;. [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Split the list of all comics ==<br /> <br /> [[List of all comics]] is getting larger and larger, which makes it hard to read and hard to edit. How about splitting into parts, say [[List of all comics/1-1000]], [[List of all comics/1001-2000]], etc., or something to that effect? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals 2013-05-01T17:39:16Z

<p>Waldir: /* Split the list of all comics */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Spampage Rampage ==<br /> Hail fellow admins, Jeff, distinguished editors all,<br /> <br /> We've just been through a second spike of spam, (the first being around the 1110 Click and Drag comic) so as your friendly Angel of Death to such spammery, I'd like to open the floor to discussion on strategies to deal with the issue.<br /> <br /> Personally, I don't mind the role of grim reaper for these miscreants, but I'd also prefer that it doesn't grow in magnitude; of late, I find myself almost exclusively dealing with the matter, leaving little enough time to enjoy the site, let alone contributing to it. Anything we can do to keep things under control would be appreciated.<br /> <br /> So far, the spam comes in these flavors:<br /> * One-timers. New users that create their own user page, oddly alike (couldn't be a spam-bot, eh?) always linking to &quot;their&quot; website. By far the biggest percentage of time the scythe falls, it falls on these.<br /> ** Two-timers. A variant of above, except they create one or two additional pages, typically the user's talk page, or a page same as the username, but not in the user namespace. Here too, quickly dispatched across the Styx.<br /> * IPersonators: IP users that create faux user (and other) pages. Second largest group, though this trend has been growing, especially during this recent onslaught.<br /> ** A particularly insidious variant: IPersonators creating or modifying a real users' page. I've been pretty careful, so far, to track down the author, and block ''them'' (as opposed to assuming author = user) but I can see how this flavor of spam risks accidental blocking of legit contributors, which would be doubleplusungood.<br /> * Jibberish vandal: Somebody creating content that isn't spam, but just repeated ''asdf'' or ''ghjkl'' content. Treated as above, though I don't call this spam in the logs. My guess is that this is a spam-bot under development. Fairly infrequent, and addressed using techniques as for above.<br /> <br /> There are a few other one-off types, too, which I won't bother elaborating here.<br /> <br /> So, the open-ended question stands: What do we do?<br /> <br /> # There has been a suggestion to block IP-only contributors (ie must log in) ... perhaps only on an as-needed basis.<br /> # Another thought would be to (by some as-yet unspecified means) prevent the creation, or cause the timely deletion, of user pages by other than said user.)<br /> # Restricting external links (by a similarly as-yet-unspecified means) either to a specified approved white-list, or by a specified set of contributors (must have made more than n edits, for example.)<br /> # Other thoughts? Let the discussion unfold...<br /> <br /> No solution is likely to be perfect; this is a matter of raising the bar to where whatever processed meat can crest over it can be most easily managed... all without being so draconian that we compromise the appeal of the site.<br /> <br /> All said, I have no problems with the grim reaper enterprise, but would like to spend more time in the [[User:IronyChef/TestKitchen|kitchen]], and less in the [[Special:Log/block|dumpster]].<br /> <br /> A little postscript to put the issue into perspective: the ''top four contributors'', (as per Active Users as I write this) are as follows:<br /> * Lcarsos [169 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Davidy22 [282 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Bpothier [298 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * IronyChef [433 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> I can tell you that of my four-hundred plus edits, only about a dozen have not been spam related. Lcarsos and Davidy22 are two ace spam-seeking deputies, so a large part of their edits involve tagging pages with the spam template, not (as I'm sure they'd prefer) actually chiming in on matters xkcd. The rest of the field: not even close in terms of edit magnitude. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was going to suggest a range block, but the IP addresses com from everywhere. The only pattern I can see is in the 83.&lt;25 range. We could also change the captcha to cut into the bots for a little while. Another suggestion would be to create every explanation page, then mark the unfinished ones with the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template, if that exists in this wiki. Then we can block anonymous page creation without having to worry about stopping anonymous users from creating new explanations. We'll have to make a few modifications to the site, to instruct users on how to find pages in need of explanations, but it'll kill all the userpage and self-help spambots. We can figure out how to deal with vandalism later - I would recommend implementing wikipedia's cluebot to automagically roll back page clearing and the like. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 23:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Also, we can semi-protect important pages like categories and templates. Chances are, anonymous users aren't familiar enough with wikis to be handling those anyways, and wiki veteran anonymous users will probably make an account. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 09:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ... ''Madame la Guillotine'' has been busy, dealing with no less than four dozen spammified pages and their attendant contributors in the last hour, to address a third spike in spam. Our hyper-contributing editors have been helping identify these malefactors, so the process has been fairly straight-forward on my part, but it's awfully quiet here....<br /> <br /> The top five contributors, as of this writing, are:<br /> * Divad27182 [133 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Davidy22 [202 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Lcarsos [207 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Bpothier [267 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * IronyChef [537 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> <br /> Number six is comes in at less than half of Divad's, and the curve decays precipitiously from there... so this is becoming a call to arms for admins to convene and discuss, ''or'' Jeff to anoint other, more active contributors, admin status.<br /> <br /> Thoughts?<br /> <br /> -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Would it be possible to volunteer to be another admin to move some of the load off of IronyChef? It feels slightly cruel and unusual for him to be the only active admin, and thus ad-hoc in charge of keeping the engines running. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Another admin is definitely needed, given the volume of spam. It'd be nice if we could [[Special:UnusedTemplates|clean]] [[Special:UnusedFiles|out]] the attic too. Shall we hold a vote? [[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 06:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I only have sporadic time to do edits, so I'd likely not be an ideal choice if there can be only 1 more... --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 07:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: This is yet again great. I'm researching SPAM prevention tools in use on other wikis. Let me know if you have something you think will work. Also, Lcarsos, you are up. Best new admin I can think of. I'm not afraid to add other admins if some (including myself) are less active. Other candidates can be submitted here. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:53, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I'm immensely honored that you trust me that much. Thank you, I'll work hard to better the wiki. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirect main-page of explainxkcd.com ==<br /> <br /> I mentioned this on the old site, but I guess this is a better place. The first page most people will get to is still the main explainxkcd.com page. With no more updates there it looks at first glance like a dead place, and when I out of habit go there, I still get an instinctive feeling that the site is dead because the first place I am send is a dead place. PLEASE redirect the main-page to this wiki, since this is the place that is still alive. [[User:Carewolf|Carewolf]] ([[User talk:Carewolf|talk]]) 14:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> : Good idea. Will work on that soon. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tagline ==<br /> <br /> I haven't created [[MediaWiki:Tagline]] yet, but we need to think about what to put there. That's the familiar &quot;From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.&quot; over at Wikipedia - it appears right under the title of each page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:39, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]] --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:09, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :I think it's pretty obvious we should keep the &quot;It's cause you're dumb.&quot; :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Well, since there haven't been any objections, I went ahead and added it: [[Mediawiki:Tagline]]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:46, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Separate discussion page(s) ==<br /> <br /> I think we should create a separate Discuss the wiki page, so that each discussion can go under its own header. I'd suggest setting up a todo list where people can help out. I'd start with a suggestion:<br /> : We should be using [[mw:Manual:Short URL|cleaner urls]]. Maybe [http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ this tool] can help setting that up. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 05:46, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :: Whatever we do decide, I've created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates to create links to the xkcd site and other explanations here on this site; that should factor at least those sites (nice central administration) as well as helping us categorize pages that use them. Was thinking of also &lt;nowiki&gt;{{wiki}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; for the same benefit, even if there's already a prefix built into mediawiki... the only drawback is the bias toward the en side... [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 10:31, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::I'm liking the idea of creating a Discuss the wiki page - I'll start one if someone doesn't/hasn't beat me to it and add it to the sidebar. I'd asked for better URLs at [[User talk:Jeff#Robots.txt]], though I didn't know what they were called. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:17, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::I also like the idea of the {{tl|xkcd}} tags. On a related note, I've [[Special:Import|imported]] {{tl|tl}}. :-) &lt;s&gt; I also realize we don't have a secure server here, but I'd support the best practice of beginning URLs with protocol-relative links ( // instead of http:// or https:// ) anyway, especially since the xkcd website ''itself'' appears to be https-compatible.&lt;/s&gt;&lt;small&gt;Nevermind, it doesn't seem to be. So I guess it doesn't matter.&lt;/small&gt; --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:40, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: Maybe we can create a subpage of the community portal for the wiki discussion. What do you think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:32, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::: Also one for editing coordination (see [[User:SurturZ/sandbox]] for instance), another for mediawiki assistance (requests to admins perhaps on the same page, or on a separate one). Any other ideas? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:41, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]], may need to be broken out into new headers or sub-headers. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:12, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Great job on creating the subpages! I think the subpages can be made more intuitive for newcomers, though. Here are my subbestions:<br /> * merge &quot;/Design&quot; and &quot;/Proposals&quot; into '''&quot;/Discuss the wiki&quot;''' or &quot;/Improve the wiki&quot; or something to that effect.<br /> * rename &quot;/Technical&quot; into '''&quot;/Tecnical assistance&quot;''' so it is clear that it should be used for one-off issues rather than coordination of wiki-wide changes (which should go in the section above)<br /> * merge the &quot;/Administrator's noticeboard&quot; above? That would reinforce that adminship is nothing but a set of technical tools to assist the wiki<br /> * New '''&quot;/Editing coordination&quot;''' subpage for organizing what to do, maintenance, keeping a TODO list for newcomers to tackle, etc -- essentially like WikiProjects work at Wikipedia.<br /> --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:35, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :As I see this, it would involve mostly just renaming pages. I don't particularly care what the names are, so I won't comment on that.<br /> :*I'd like to keep /Administrator's noticeboard for the time being. The primary advantage of this is that administrators can watchlist this and things which need the tools are less likely to get lost in discussion. It can always be deprecated afterwards if it isn't being used enough.<br /> :*I'd sort of seen /Design as doing what you're proposing for /Editing coordination, though I didn't explain it as well.<br /> :--''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:43, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :: Ok, I get what you mean with the Admin page. I don't think this wiki is going to be that busy to warrant a separate page, though. But for now, let's at least simplify the name? &quot;Admin requests&quot;, for instance :)<br /> :: And yeah, Design isn't really a good name for content-related coordination. What I'm suggesting here is to have one page for meta (wiki-related) discussion, and another for content-related discussion. Does that make sense? And what name do you think would be good for the former rather than the current, too generic imo, &quot;Proposals&quot;? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:20, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::&quot;Discuss the wiki&quot; sounds good to me, as does &quot;Admin requests.&quot; Or whatever, I guess. ;-) I may not be online much for the next few days (or much this evening), so go ahead and change it how you think it should be, I guess. Having stable discussion pages sooner than later would be good. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:48, 6 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::: Ok I changed the admin page name, and merged &quot;design&quot; and &quot;proposals&quot;, but for now I left it named &quot;Proposals&quot;. I'm not quite confident about the clarity of &quot;Discuss the wiki&quot;... I'll wait until others comment here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 14:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: I'm not seeing any further discussion and it's been a few days since the move, so I'm clearing the sitenotice. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automatic Import ==<br /> <br /> Hi<br /> <br /> I created a draft for the comic pages. It's still work in progress, but I'd like to retrieve feedback.<br /> <br /> Also, maybe we could autmatically import comics using the JSON data Randall gives us ([http://xkcd.com/614/info.0.json]). This way, we could also include transcripts. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:23, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> : Hm, I should add a link to my draft: [[User:SlashMe/Testpage]] ;-) --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I updated the page, including links to the next/previous comic similar to [[Template:ComicHeader]]. I used comic 472, because it has a lot of metadata (link, news, HTML title, etc.). --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 07:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Just to remind everyone, I'd be ready to import the comics, but I don't want to until I got more feedback. Please have a look at [[User:SlashMe/Testpage]] and tell me your opinion. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:02, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> : I think your test page looks great. I'm a big fan of it. Any way to fit the text in the text box rather than having it run all the way to the right? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:19, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :: I just made a change concerning line breaks, at least it works in Firefox and Chrome. Could somebody please test it in different versions of Internet Explorer?<br /> :: If you agree, I would start uploading tomorrow. I'll send you a mail. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 18:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> The discussion is now at [[Explain XKCD:Community_portal/Design#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:20, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Random comic?&quot; ==<br /> <br /> Not to clutter the sidebar, but what would you say to adding a &quot;Random comic&quot; right under &quot;Random page&quot;, linking to [//dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/ //dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/] ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:46, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Naw, xkcd already has a random comic. I think we should have a ''random explanation''. ;-) All kidding aside, I was wondering: generating a random member of a category...? Has that improved since the early days when I tried to do something like that. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 03:19, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Hi. For how to do this, we could install the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Random_In_Category Random In Category] Mediawiki extension, which would allow us to use &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Special:RandomInCategory/Comics]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; to point to any random explanation. {{User:Omega/sig}} 22:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Or we could move the comics into a Comic namespace, and use Special:Random/comic (See for instance [[Special:Random/template]]). This doesn't require any server-side changes. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Header template ==<br /> <br /> Hi, I've created a template called [[Template:ComicHeader]], which might make things easier when creating comic pages (and also provide better consistency between the pages). I've used it on the [[Internal monologue]] page, to display the comic number and the date it was published. The template also adds the page to the [[:Category:Comics|Comics]] category.<br /> <br /> You just need to add:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{ComicHeader|1089|August 1, 2012}}&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> …to the start of the page (replacing the comic number and date).<br /> <br /> I'll try to make the template look a bit nicer, but the great thing about templates of course, is that once they're updated, the changes are reflected on all the pages that include that template. --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 18:46, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :By the way, I'm thinking of maybe programming something that would allow you to easily import the comic image and alt text from xkcd without having to upload the images manually and the like. You'd just have to host a single PHP file on your server and make a few changes to the MediaWiki configuration. Of course, you'd be able to see source code and everything to make sure I'm not trying to do something fishy. :-P Let me know what you think. :-) --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 18:54, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Yirba - I like the idea. My email is explain@explainxkcd.com - send me what you put together and we can sort it out. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:37, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Ditto on the Template. Up-vote. Any thought on harvesting the pre-wiki content from ExplainXKCD with some sort of a Python, Perl, or PHP script? (That sounds more like a 'bot than something that would have to be hosted, though.) [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:52, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::: I was thinking of putting it into a infobox, please [[#Idea|see above]]. I also intended to automatically extract data from xkcd, which would lack descriptions, but at least we would have data like title, image and transcripts. Also, there are some other data like links (e.g. 832), news (which are displayed in xkcd's header, e.g. 739) and titles which contain HTML (259 and 472). I also extracted all those data. When we agree on a page layout, I could begin programming a bot. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::Hmmm… an infobox may be a good idea. And a bot that imports data from xkcd might be handy. Anyway, here's something I programmed that would allow for access to the xkcd API from the wiki itself. Essentially, you'd put this xkcdinfo.php ([http://gist.github.com/3239432 source], [http://github.com/downloads/Yirba/yirba.github.com/xkcdinfo.php download]) file somewhere on the server (e.g. at http://www.explainxkcd.com/xkcdinfo.php) and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki#Adding_a_new_website_for_interwiki_linking include it in MediaWiki's interwiki table] (ensuring iw_trans == 1):<br /> &lt;pre&gt;INSERT INTO interwiki (iw_prefix, iw_url, iw_local, iw_trans) VALUES ('xkcdinfo', 'http://www.explainxkcd.com/xkcdinfo.php?input=$1', 0, 1);&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> ::::After [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding enabling scary transclusion] in LocalSettings.php, you'd then be able to send queries to the xkcd JSON API via this file. In other words, &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:32-title}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; would make comic 32's title appear. &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:55-alt}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; would make comic 55's image text appear. I've also set it so you could enter &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:100-embed}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;, and it would make the comic 100 image appear on the wiki page. Feel free to use it however you want (if at all), and modify the code should you wish. (Hint: Using the number 0 for the comic number will query the most recent comic, so &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcdinfo:0-num}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; will return the current comic number. Also, adding &quot;raw:&quot; before &quot;xkcdinfo:&quot; might be more useful in some instances. E.g.: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{raw:xkcdinfo:555-title}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;)--[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 14:50, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::: Nice idea, altough this would mean to load all data from xkcd whenever a page is &lt;del&gt;viewed&lt;/del&gt;&lt;ins&gt;edited&lt;/ins&gt; (I think this is the way MediaWiki caches the data). This is a lot of traffic for little data. I'd say to include the metadata statically, but linking the external image seems a good thing to me. Again, it'd be great if you gave me feedback for [[User:SlashMe/Testpage|my idea]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::::Yes, the data would be loaded from xkcd for each edit. You can, however, substitute (subst) the template for data that is unlikely to change. And therefore the data would indeed be stored statically. I like the layout you've come up with. It could perhaps do with a bit of tweaking here and there, but the general idea is good. --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 17:16, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::::: What kind of tweaking do you mean? I know the code is a bit messy, if you have a better idea, please tell me (or do it yourself - hey, it's a wiki!). The CSS should be placed in an external file, but for now, it's ok. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:51, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Looks like there is another/newer template called [[Template:Comic]] that includes prev/next buttons as well. <br /> You add it with:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{comic<br /> | number = 1<br /> | date = September 30, 2005<br /> | title = {{PAGENAME}}<br /> | image = barrel_cropped_(1).jpg<br /> | imagesize = <br /> | alttext = Don't we all.<br /> }}<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --~~~~&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ==Description==<br /> xxxxxxxxxxx<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> No need to include the alt text separately, as the template does it for you. It also includes the comic category, but only if the first 4 fields are filled out.<br /> --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 18:47, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> : Yes, but that is not necessarily an advantage. My template only creates the infobox, so you are still able to create an introductory text or other sections, for special comics that need a more detailed description. I can also add categories if needed. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:02, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I think it is a major advantage to make the thing easier to use and more consistant site-wide.<br /> <br /> ::As the creator of the new one, I'm obviously biased, but I created it because I think it's better. Not putting your work down, it was a great piece of code that I put to work in my template. But I think if there's need for pre-text of any kind (not sure there is, as the articles probably should all open with the comic itself as presented on XKCD), a pre-comment can be added into the template, but I'm not sure what that would be. Perhaps there would be a requirement for special circumstances like the comic a few weeks ago where there were a million iterations depending on locality, browser, etc. But that's the rarity. I think the new one simplifies it for users. They need only one template to post the comic, alt text title and nav buttons. What could be easier? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:08, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::: As the creator of the other one, I'm equally biased. What about a &quot;main template&quot;, which then calls one or two other templates (e.g. one for the infobox, another for image and alt text? For most comics, this main template could be used, but if absolutely needed, it would still be possible to use the underlying templates with custom sections/text. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::I just now saw your request for feedback on your new comic page with the sidebar. I honestly am not sure which format is better. I kind of like my format for the fact that it basically presents the comic as it was originally posted, but your infobox does provide some additional stuff like 3D link (not sure what &quot;news&quot; is, of where the &quot;link&quot; comes from but...) Perhaps we could integrate the two. I like that the comic is visble right away on my template, but on your page it's down below the first header. I don't think the comic itself needs an &quot;image&quot; heading. No disrespect, but I think your sidebar, esp. because of the &quot;news&quot; field is a bit chunky - too wide for most of its content.<br /> <br /> ::::I think we could easily add things like a &quot;3d&quot; link into {{tl|comic}} as part of the next/prev bar where a &quot;3D&quot; field in the template is non-blank. Similarly, original title could read something like (Originally titled: xxxxx) below the primary title in a smaller font. Other than the &quot;link&quot; and &quot;news&quot; fields (which again, I'm not sure what they are), I think that would inclde all the same info as your infobox into my template. Thoughts? <br /> <br /> ::::As to your other comment about compartmentalizing the template, I have nothing against that, but which parts of the template would you want to be able to use separately (and can you suggest an example where that might be necessary?) Subdividing the template can always be done later if it becomes needed; just trying to get an idea of what you have in mind by compartmentalizing it. Cheers [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:43, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:37, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> {{outdent|::::}}<br /> <br /> ''Suggestion:''<br /> <br /> * I will start by uploading all images. This will take some time and has no points to discuss. (If it has, tell me.) At a later point, maybe we could link them directly from xkcd.com.<br /> * For the comic pages: Let's say we'll use {{tl|Comic}}. I'll change the arguments of the template to be more like my {{tl|Infobox comic}}, see [[Template:Infobox comic#Arguments|documentation]]. I'll keep the ''alttext'' argument, but make ''image'' optional (file name should be guessed from the title). Do we really need ''imagesize''?<br /> * {{tl|Comic}} would then call some further templates, passing the appropriate arguments. This way, we are able to use custom sections/text if needed for special comics (like [http://xkcd.com/1037/ Umwelt]) by using these templates instead of the all-in-one {{tl|Comic}}.<br /> * Since we have one template doing all the work, we can easily change the page layout even after the import. (We should only keep track of the pages that don't use {{tl|Comic}}, using a hidden category)<br /> * For consistency, I would move all existing pages out of the way and re-create them. The moved pages could be collected by adding them to a category like [[:Category:legacy pages]], so they should easily be found. Descriptions should be moved to the new pages, afterwards the legacy pages can be deleted.<br /> <br /> This way, I can import all comics, but we would still be able to change the layout afterwards. My 2ct concerning page layout:<br /> * &lt;del&gt;'''Use comic titles as page names.'''&lt;/del&gt;&lt;ins&gt;(See below)&lt;/ins&gt; The title should be prominent, the number will be in the infobox.<br /> * I'll remove ''Original title'', ''news'' and ''link'' from the infobox and move them to a section after the description. (For details, see [[Template:Infobox_comic#Documentation|here]])<br /> * suggested layout:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> =====page title=====<br /> +--------------------+ +---------+<br /> | | | infobox |<br /> | image | | text |<br /> |(no section heading)| | |<br /> | | | |<br /> | | +---------+<br /> +--------------------+<br /> ==alt==<br /> text<br /> ==description==<br /> text<br /> ==transcript==<br /> text<br /> ==original title, news and link== (if available)<br /> text<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Still open for opinions.--[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:13, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :It might make more sense to use the comic number as the page title, and then use [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowDisplayTitle DISPLAYTITLE] to make the comic title appear in place of the number. Just putting that out as another possibility. --[[User:Yirba|Yirba]] ([[User talk:Yirba|talk]]) 09:49, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Good point, I agree. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 09:54, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> If anyone wants to use it, I've written a bot [http://pastebin.com/5F877BHE] that can upload images, create redirect pages, and create comic pages. You can change the format it uses for the comic page if you have some knowledge of python. To use it, look at [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Quick_Start_Guide]. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 10:56, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Sorry, I was faster. I'm using [http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/mwclient/ mwclient], and I already uploaded all images. I could also create pages and redirects, but I'm waiting until we have a consent. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 11:02, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::A few thoughts: if you start uploading images, but don't create the comic pages with them, a user going to create a new comic page isn't going to know whether or not the comic image has already been uploaded. This could be confusing. Hopefully the uploads are going to be named the same as the original images? (when I do upload, I actually just paste the URL in my &quot;browse&quot; box and upload directly from my browsers cache that way so it works out), but I just want to avoid duplicating images on the server as well as wasting time by trying to upload something that's already there.<br /> <br /> ::As to the page layout, I'm still of the view that the transcript should be in a collapsed frame so that it doesn't take up half the article. I don't honestly think that most people are coming to read the transcript. I could be wrong tho. Open to opinions on that. Otherwise, I do like transcript AFTER The explanation (also, the heading &quot;explanation&quot; vs. &quot;description&quot; as mentioned in another discussion in the portal. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::PS: We definately need imagesize. It defaults to full size, but I think we definately need the optional argument for large comics. Remembering that this is a wiki to explain the comics, there are many large comics that ought to be restricted to a smaller size for the page (they can be clicked to enlarge - the template automatically creates a &quot;click to enlarge&quot; link if imagesize is used). I have generally been using a 375 or 400px size for keeping larger comics managable, but sometimes it's a comic-dependant decision. Also, notwithstanding my comment on another thread, even though I agree that the xkcd commentary is actually &quot;title text&quot;, just as a side note, I've just noticed that the transcripts for older comics actually do call it &quot;alt text&quot;) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: As long as no one has any objections, this header looks awesome (with ImageSize as TheHYPO suggested), so feel free to work on the importation functionality. Let me know if you need anything from me in order to import from the Wordpress side of things. If we start talking importation, lets move that conversation under a different header. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Date format ===<br /> <br /> I suggest to enter the date as YYYY-MM-DD and using &lt;nowiki&gt;{{#dateformat: {{date}}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; in {{tl|comic}}. This way, the date should be displayed using the personal preferences (see [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-datetime]]). Does anyone disagree? --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 20:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Displaying Comics {{done|Closed}}==<br /> <br /> For the home page, I think the comic and explanation should be displayed instead of a link to the comic.<br /> <br /> For reasons unknown to me, I decided to create [[Template:Comicbox]] and [[Template:Comicbox2]]. Looks nice, as long as you use the correct one for the comic.<br /> <br /> Go to [[User:Grep/comicbox]] and [[User:Grep/comicbox2]] for examples. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :Those're wonderful! And should probably be on the main page. If you wanted, we could probably incorporate them (and maybe a third?) into a single template with a &quot;square/vertical or horizontal&quot; switch. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:36, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Also, you used &quot;comicbox&quot; for the class. Is that a class that's defined somewhere? (And if so, where?) --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:36, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::Good point. Removed. And merging them sounds wonderful. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> ::::Maybe merging them into [[Template:comicbox]]? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :::::I think classes are defined at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], so if you really wanted to define the class.... And [[Template:Comicbox]] would probably be best. Did you want to merge them or should I take a look at it? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:25, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::ParserFunctions and any sort of non-XMLish markup is weird. I would rather you look at it. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :::::::Okay, I've moved your templates to {{tl|Comicbox square or vertical}} and {{tl|Comicbox horizontal}} so I can work on {{tl|Comicbox}} as the main one. It may take a while - I like to think of myself as a &quot;[[wikipedia:Category:User template coder|master of all known wikimarkup]],&quot; but I don't actually use those skills that often. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:08, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Thanks. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :::::::::I've made it at {{tl|Comicbox}}. This actually leaves {{tl|Comicbox square or vertical}} and {{tl|Comicbox horizontal}} unused, though I credited you (and them) in a comment at the top of the template. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:21, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::I think that the explanation should be on the right because it just looks weird as is... --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> {{outdent}} Sure. But right now they both look like they're on the bottom? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:02, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :{{done|Fixed}} --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> ===Sans-serif typeface {{done|Closed}}===<br /> ::::::::I like these, too, but the roman typeface... how do folks feel about sticking with a sans-serif typeface throughout the site? [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 00:13, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::We should be able to change that wiki-wide through [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], I think. Unfortunately, I don't know enough CSS to do it. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::: I believe sans serif is already the default wiki-wide. Those specific instances were deliberately coded to use a serif font. It's just a matter of removing &lt;code&gt;font-family: 'Times New Roman';&lt;/code&gt; from the template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:01, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::: Oh, I'd missed that. I removed it. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:14, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:37, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == comic header ==<br /> <br /> Jeff, further to your previous conversation on the comic header, I've significantly rewritten Yirba's template (thanks to Yirba for the hard work. His navigation bar was very useful) and I've created a new template of {{tl|comic}}. An example of the comic in use can be seen at [[T-shirts]]. I started a discussion on the main page discussion board, but I thought if I pointed it out to you and you like it, it can start going in the rotation for new comics.<br /> <br /> I actually now see that Grep did a template up with intent (I think) to use for the main page. Had I known that when I started, I would have probably based my template off of his, because it looks nice, but either way, mine is intended for the actual articles. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:46, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Again, may I link to &lt;del&gt;[[User talk:Jeff#Automatic Import|my request for feedback]]&lt;/del&gt;? --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:52, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> The discussion is now at [[Explain XKCD:Community_portal/Design#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:17, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:37, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Bylines ==<br /> In the migration from blog to wiki, I noticed a few things:<br /> # Visitors still seem to assume there's a single, ''invisible other'' that provides the explanations; this might be a carryover from the blog days when Jeff was the author of that content, or it may be newcomers not familiar with the license-to-create a wiki offers. You see it in comments that call out corrections, without the corrections actually being made to the explanations. Usually a more savvy editor swings in, makes the fix, and chimes in on the comments.<br /> # There's no visual cue on the page itself to disabuse a novice of that fact. Sure, wikiphiles will check the history; but aside from that the novice has is left in the dark, and certainly isn't led to the conclusion that they, too, can contribute to the explanation.<br /> To that end, I was wondering: why not put a {{tl|byline}} on each explanation, and give credit where credit is due? I know Waldir wanted to &quot;gamify&quot; the wiki a bit. I don't know that I'd go ''that'' far, but putting bylines does kill a few birds by raising awareness of the democratic approach to explanations, and giving kudos to the contributor(s). I've prototyped it (and of course, it's subject to revision) but here's how it would work:<br /> * '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|you}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|you}}<br /> * '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|you|me}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|you|me}}<br /> * '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|you|me|someone else}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|you|me|someone else}}<br /> * More concretely, '''&lt;nowiki&gt;{{byline|Jeff|Waldir|IronyChef|Blaisepascal}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;''' produces {{byline|Jeff|Waldir|IronyChef|Blaisepascal}}<br /> (in general, the parameters are the usernames, up to about 5 or six contributors, for now.) Was thinking about having the content be automatically turned into wiki-links, but left that out while we think it over. Thotz? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: How would we indicate who is in the byline? The person who created the page? The person who edited the most characters? Would it be a combination of all the names? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 14:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I have to say, it sounds contrary to the whole wiki premise. I agree with you that there does seem to be a bit of a learning curve here, but I don't know if &quot;crediting&quot; the explanations is the right solution. How much editing does one have to do to get credit on an article? You might get people who want to edit just to get credits, and credits over time could get relatively lengthy. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:41, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Template improvement suggestion ==<br /> <br /> Can I suggest that we work on improving {{tl|ComicHeader}} - I wish I had time to do it myself and then edit all the comic pages, but I would suggest the best way might be to start a new template (perhaps design it a bit more like an infobox) and start converting the old pages over to new ones.<br /> <br /> The feature I think should be added is that, where the template currently includes teh comic number and date, and creates the nav header, the template really ought to include the image name, and the alt text. In that way, the template can produce the entire part of the article that displays the comic and its alt text (and the alt text, as mentioned, could be more like a caption, instead of just looking like a generic section of the article - it's part of the comic, it shouldn't look like part of the article on this site (no offence, Jeff, but that's one thing I always didn't like about explain XKCD - the image text should be bold or underlined or italics or something to signify that it's part of the comic and not the explanation.<br /> <br /> I'll see if I can work on a prototype. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 12:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :What does everyone thing of this as a better layout? [[Blown Apart]] [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 13:09, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::May I link to &lt;del&gt;[[User talk:Jeff#Automatic Import|my request for feedback]]&lt;/del&gt;? --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:52, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:44, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;The discussion is now at [[#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:17, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Transcripts ==<br /> <br /> Do we need to add a whole section on &quot;Transcript&quot; for each comic? That could get very long for some comics, and basically pushes the explanations down further (which is what people generally come to explainxkcd for). If anything, perhaps the transcripts could be in a minimizable box like some navboxes do on wikipedia? I don't see a majority of users coming to read the transcripts... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> : What about putting the transcripts at the bottom of the page?<br /> : BTW: If you agree, this discussion should be moved to [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]], as [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] suggested. At least for new discussions. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:19, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::No problem there. Feel free to move it. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::How about having it be collapsed, with the option to expand it (TOC-like)? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:25, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:47, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;The discussion is now at [[#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:18, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Adding a new comic ==<br /> <br /> This is the process I use to add a new comic. YMMV... Feel free to update this as/if needed to provide some consistency...--[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 19:22, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I start by uploading the image using the name from [[XKCD]]'s page.<br /> <br /> I create the new page using the comic number(not the name), e.g. &quot;http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1&quot;<br /> <br /> I (currently) insert using the &quot;Comic&quot; template:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> {{comic<br /> | number = 1<br /> | date = September 30, 2005<br /> | title = {{PAGENAME}}<br /> | image = barrel_cropped_(1).jpg<br /> | imagesize = <br /> | alttext = Don't we all.<br /> }}<br /> ==Transcript==<br /> This is the transcript from xkcd<br /> ==Description==<br /> Wow what a cool comic!<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> I &quot;Show preview&quot; to ensure the image shows up and everything looks good.<br /> <br /> I &quot;Save page&quot;.<br /> <br /> I click the &quot;move&quot; link on the down-arrow drop-down menu to the right of &quot;View history&quot; (at top of page).<br /> <br /> I rename the page from &quot;1&quot; to the page title from [[XKCD]].<br /> <br /> This will automatically create a redirect from &quot;1&quot; to the correct page name without having to do it manually.<br /> --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 19:22, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Please, have a break here. When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically. I repeat, when we agree on the layout (which should also include the direction of the redirects) --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 19:25, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Talk:Main Page]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:47, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> The discussion concerning the layout is at [[Explain XKCD:Community_portal/Design#Header template]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 04:18, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == styling of xkcd links ==<br /> <br /> I added code to the end of [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] to style links to the xkcd website as http://xkcd.com rather than the regular external link format, http://example.com. What do you guys think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 05:06, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :I like it generally. Is there a way to force it to not display on individual pages, though? I don't think we should have it at [[Explain XKCD:Copyrights]], {{tl|XKCD file}}, or {{tl|XKCD file derived}}, as they are more serious. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Sure. I've disabled it on those pages, feel free to add more as you see fit. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:22, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :::Thanks! --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:34, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :I like the idea of the graphic, too, but wonder if it could be muted a bit (medium gray vs black) so it recedes a bit into the background; the classic graphic is a very light blue for that reason, too. (Oh, and a minor quibble... overheard: &quot;who is that short, bearded dude?&quot; &quot;Oh! That's megan?&quot;) ... I don't know how we could update it, and maybe it'll be less of an issue when muted... Thotz? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The image can be updated by uploading new versions of [[File:xkcd favicon.png]]. It doesn't need to be the xkcd.com favicon; in fact, it would be good if we could make it even smaller (e.g. just cueball's head, or simply &quot;xkcd&quot; in the typical handwritten font, etc). Making it dimmer also seems like a good idea, btw. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 'Explanation' rather than 'Description' ==<br /> <br /> Can I suggest we use the heading &quot;Explanation&quot; rather than &quot;Description&quot; on the comic pages, since that fits with the name of the wiki? --[[User:SurturZ|SurturZ]] ([[User talk:SurturZ|talk]]) 09:20, 5 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Agreed. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 14:27, 5 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Seconded [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Allow external inline images ==<br /> <br /> Hi. I'd like to propose that we set [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages $wgAllowExternalImages] to true '''or''' add &lt;tt&gt;xkcd.com&lt;/tt&gt; and some image hosting sites (such as &lt;tt&gt;imgur.com&lt;/tt&gt;) to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImagesFrom $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom]. If the former is set to true, external images will be allowed from any host, whereas if the former is kept as false but we add some sites to the latter (obviously adding xkcd's site itself seems to be the logical choice), then only images that are from whitelisted sites can appear as inline images. What this does is it allows external images to be displayed as an actual image, rather than just a link (note that sites not in the whitelist will still appear as just the link). Why? Because there's no way to display images without uploading them. Obviously some editors may wish to use images for non-wiki purposes, such as proposing alternative logos or for their userspace, in which case uploading the images to this site isn't entirely practical. Allowing externally hosted images to be displayed will alleviate that problem.<br /> <br /> Yes, there is the risk of... less appropriate images being displayed, however, I consider that being a null argument, as editors could just as easily upload the image here and link it as an internal image. As well, using the whitelist alternative would limit the image to being posted from a trusted site, such as imgur. Finally, if worries about nude photos being posted is really a concern (seriously, what's stopping an editor from just uploading said image here? Nothing.), it's possible to only whitelist sites which don't permit nude images from being hosted on their site (such as &lt;tt&gt;imageshack.us&lt;/tt&gt;), although I think that's a bit extreme (especially considering that imgur is hands down the most popular image host these days). {{User:Omega/sig}} 07:52, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I really don't see a compelling reason to have this. It's not about improper images or anything. (Note that we already have access to all images in [[commons:|Wikimedia Commons]], by the way, which has a large variety of images and other media, with the added benefit that we're sure they can be reused without licensing concerns). A specific whitelist could be interesting (e.g. we could hotlink the images from xkcd), but having the images here allows us to do neat things like categorizing them by topic, size, etc. Also, images like logo proposals, etc. do benefit from being uploaded here (for historical interest, for a guarantee that they won't be deleted wherever they're hosted, for better control regarding how they're displayed, etc.) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Latest comic handling ==<br /> <br /> Currently the latest comic is handled automatically by the {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} template, which tests the existence of pages like 1092, 1093 (supposed to be redirects to the corresponding comics), to see which is the highest-number existing page, and consider it the latest comic.<br /> <br /> That way we can have the latest comic automatically transcluded on the main page.<br /> <br /> But we cannot have, with that system, an automatic &quot;Edit&quot; link (to edit the latest comic) on the main page, nor can we have automatically the comments associated with that latest comic. The former was {{diff|5587|changed to a &quot;Go to this comic&quot; link}}, and the latter was {{diff|4940|removed}}. I think both of them are really useful things to have on the main page.<br /> <br /> I've been thinking a little bit about this, and in the end I suggest that we handle manually the latest comic :<br /> * There would be a single {{tl|latest comic}} template, which would have to be updated manually to return the full title of the latest comic's page (such as &quot;1092: Michael Phelps&quot;).<br /> * Next to the &quot;Latest comic&quot; header, on the front page, would be appended a &quot;[update]&quot; link, to a page explaining that to insert the new latest comic in the wiki: one needs to 1/ create a page titled &quot;&lt;number&gt;: &lt;title&gt;&quot; and 2/ update the {{tl|latest comic}} template with the new title.<br /> * The &quot;Edit this explanation&quot; link could be put back on the main page, using something like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[{{fullurl:{{latest comic}}|action=edit}} '''Edit this explanation''']&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. And I firmly believe that link is important. ({{diff|5598|*this*}} for instance is exactly what I'm talking about)<br /> * The comments to the latest comic could be appended under the latest comic's transclusion, with something like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{ {{TALKPAGENAME: {{latest comic}} }} }}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. They could be in a collapsible area if they take too much space. Same here than about the edit link, I believe that's really important to impel/motivate readers to leave their comments as well.<br /> * Finally, when only the number is needed (such as in the computation of the number of missing explanations), this could be done via another template (for instance {{tl|latest comic number}}), automatic this time, which would replace the current {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} by extracting the value out of {{tl|latest comic}} (with something like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#explode:{{latest comic}}|:}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;).<br /> <br /> So, yes there would be a value to update manually, but that's not really much and if it's part of a process I don't think that would be a big drawback, and on the other hand I think it would be less error-prone than an automatic calculation, and allow more useful things. And make less use of redirects as well. Furthermore, the current {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}}, used quite a lot (in the sidebar, so in every page actually), makes heavy use of the &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#ifexist:...}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; parser function, [[mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##ifexist|qualified as &quot;expensive&quot;]], so even though it may not be a big deal it could be a better option to try to avoid that...<br /> <br /> What do you think?<br /> <br /> [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Quick interjection in the middle of this larger posting, but I've been playing around with a template that should radically simplify the exhaustive and expensive logic used by {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} by using date math. It's been simmering in my test kitchen, and I'm fairly sure it's robust enough to roll out... just one thing: it would be much more efficient if we had the Variables extension (ie, ADMIN REQUEST) else there would be a lot of duplicate recalculation of the date. Not terrible, but not as good as it could be. See {{tl|LatestComicOnDate}} and the associated talk page for the guts of it. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A few considerations:<br /> :* We can instead add the edit link directly to the comic page. It could be generated by the {{tl|comic}} template, which already has to be provided with both the number and the title of the comic (in fact those could even be automatically extracted from the page title with some [[mw:Extension:StringFunctions|string parsing functions]] or {{w|Template:Str number/trim|clever}} {{w|Template:Remove first word|templates}}). This should solve the &quot;edit this comic&quot; link issue.<br /> :* Actually, the discussion part was hidden from the main page on purpose (although for a different reason: it was transcluding the main page's own talk page instead). I am not sure it's a good idea to include it in the main page as it could clutter it, but I can understand the point of putting it there. I would suggest perhaps including it directly rather than inside the {{tl|comic discussion}} box, as that would create a box on a box layout that I don't think would look too good. Note that there is no problem with needing the pagename here, since we can transclude a redirect (the same way the actual comic page is transcluded using only the number, which is a redirect).<br /> :* I did see that edit and was thinking that we could probably display a custom info message whenever someone attempts to edit main page, so they'll know they ''can'' edit the actual comic page. I'll add that to my todo list.<br /> :* Mediawiki itself will tell us when a potentially expensive parser function is being used too much, by placing the corresponding page in [[:Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls]]. So we don't need to be concerned with {{w|premature optimization}} :)<br /> :--[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The edit link can be displayed, specifically on the main page, by the {{tl|comic}} template, that is true; it just seems wrong to me however, it's not his job to do so...<br /> ::As for the comments, they cannot be displayed by the template (unless we put them before the explanation), so we still don't have a solution for them; and I still believe they would be very useful on the main page, very appealing for readers to come and comment as well.<br /> ::So, problem still not solved I would say... - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I don't see the problem with {{tl|comic}} displaying the edit link on the main page, especially since you consider using it to display the discussion as well (which, I agree, unfortunately isn't possible)<br /> ::: I added the discussion to the main page. It will depend on a redirect being created for the talk page as well every time a new comic is released, but it doesn't make it any harder. Compare:<br /> :::# Create comic page at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Update &lt;nowiki&gt;{{latest comic}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Redirect &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123]] to [[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; &lt;small&gt;(it's necessary to allow people to get to the comic with only the number)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :::with:<br /> :::# Create comic page at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Redirect &lt;nowiki&gt;[[123]] to [[123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::# Redirect &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Talk:123]] to [[Talk:123: title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> :::Therefore, I don't see a strong case for creating the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{latest comic}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::<br /> ::::You're right, the two systems are equivalent in use; but then is there a strong case to keep the current one against using the one I suggested?<br /> ::::Currently we cannot get an &quot;add a comment&quot; link on the main page, and to put the &quot;edit this explanation&quot; banner below the explanation one has to put it on the comic page (and manually remove it once the comic is not the latest any more). And when there is no comments yet, the main page displays a weird red link (transclusion of the redirect page to a non-existant page) instead of displaying (for instance) a nice &quot;''No comments yet''&quot;.<br /> ::::True, the {{tl|comic}} template could be used to, specifically on the main page, display something like &quot;view page - edit - add a comment&quot; on top-right, but that doesn't solve all these issues, and then the links wouldn't be at their ideal place. And one could argue that all the features I'm speaking about are not absolutely necessary, but I still think it would be better at least.<br /> ::::All in all, I can live with the current system, but I still believe a manually updated &lt;nowiki&gt;{{latest comic}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would allow, without cost, to set a better layout of content, navigation links and edit/comment links.<br /> ::::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:46, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::<br /> :::*I am in agreement that the goal should be to have the ability to comment directly onto the main page for the current comic. <br /> ::::Can all pages be formatted to look like the main page (ie header with number of comics explained/remaining and the 3 paragraphs at the end describing the site). <br /> ::::If this could be done (I don't think it would clutter the site as these take up very little space even on the main page), then could we just redirect the main page to the comic with the highest number? The function of the main page would not change as a new user would still see all information currently available on the main page, but it would have the added benefit of sending visitors to the desired location (the fully functional current comic page).<br /> ::::[[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 17:23, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How to reference strips? ==<br /> <br /> I think we need to agree on a citation style for strips in plain prose. I.e. If the [[Black Hat]] article says &quot;Black Hat first appears in ________&quot;, how are we filling that blank? In this case, the blank is [[29: Hitler]]. As I understand it, proper style for an &quot;episode&quot; name typically is quotes, so the stip is &quot;Hitler&quot;. But there's still various options:<br /> <br /> # &quot;[[29: Hitler|Hitler]]&quot; [quotes not linked]<br /> # [[29: Hitler|&quot;Hitler&quot;]] [quotes linked]<br /> # [[29: Hitler|Comic #29]]<br /> # [[29: Hitler|#29]]<br /> # [[29: Hitler]]<br /> # &quot;[[29: Hitler|Hitler]]&quot; (29)<br /> # &quot;[[29: Hitler|Hitler]]&quot; (#29)<br /> <br /> etc.<br /> <br /> Anyone have any opinions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Option 5. above seems the simplest, yet readable and informative. At most I'd prepend a # sign, like so: #[[29: Hitler]]. Being a link should be enough to differentiate it from the rest of the text (without needing quote signs). Alternatively, #7 also may be an acceptable option, but we'd need a template to make sure the formatting is maintained in all such references... I don't think it's worth the extra complexity. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Whatever we decide, let's encode it into the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and/or &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, and just agree to use those templates. That allows central administration of the stylistic issues and gives editors a simple rule to follow. Minor tweaks to either would afford that flexibility. Right now, they generate the links {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}} respectively, though the latter can be {{explain|29: Hitler}} without much fuss. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: I support modifying the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template to be along the lines of proposal number five. {{User:Omega/sig}} 09:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: Five. yes. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sidebar icons ==<br /> <br /> Hi all. I hope you'll forgive my enthusiasm but I went ahead and implemented an icon theme for the sidebar (as well as more spacing between the links, for extra breathing room). What do you guys think of it? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :I like it, but I'm not sure where you added them. Was that on a MediaWiki: page or one of the .css pages? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Both :) [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 09:07, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cueball/Rob ==<br /> <br /> I noticed someone edited the character template to add an article for &quot;[[Rob]]&quot;. I thought this might have just been a vandal edit, but I googled 'xkcd Rob' and discovered that indeed, a Cueball chracter has been referenced as Rob in several strips. Is there a reason Cueball hasn't been designated officially &quot;Rob&quot; just as [[Megan]] has been designated Megan by being named in a few strips? Do we have reason to believe that other Cueballs are non-Rob characters? PS: this might not be the right place for this discussion, but I'm not sure if anyone is reading article discussion pages at this point yet, and I thought that the name of the primary character might be a notable issue of discussion [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: I'm unclear on this as well. Cueball was just a name made up (I think here on this site) for the main character of the comic. Are there separate characters for Cueball and Rob? I'm not sure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I know that &quot;Cueball&quot; has now been severely grandfathered in, but I think we have to consider moving [[Cueball]] over to [[Rob]] and basically considering the Cueball character to be &quot;Rob&quot;, in the same way as Megan, unless it's clear that the character isn't Rob, since Cueball, as noted, is not an official title. I'm somewhat leaning in this direction.<br /> <br /> :::I do see some leakage of the term &quot;Cueball&quot; into other sites via a google search including xkcd forums. In the alternatively, I would suggest mentioning in the Cueball article that he has been referred to as &quot;Rod&quot; in some comics, but due to his lack of distinguishing physical traits, it is not always clear if a comic is depicting Rod, or a different character. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]])<br /> ::::I have to agree with this. When I first heard about the page on &quot;Rob&quot;, I was a bit skeptical, as I couldn't recall hearing the name before and the page was ridiculous at the time. However, after looking him up to try and verify the page, I found a number of &quot;Cueball&quot; characters that were referred to as &quot;Rob&quot;, officially (and even an instance where the transcript referred to the character as &quot;Rob&quot; when the comic didn't mention a name). TL; DR: The character we've all called &quot;Cueball&quot; seems to be more properly known as &quot;Rob&quot;. {{User:Omega/sig}} 22:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::{{explain|285|Citation needed...}} I, for one, would oppose the migration away from Cueball. <br /> :::::# {{w|xkcd|Wikipedia}} has been silent on the matter, giving no more credibility to the apellation than Cueball.<br /> :::::# Transcripts in xkcd typically (granted, with a few exceptions) refer to the various stick figures as Person 1, etc. Frequently, there are several stick figures, all essentially the same generic stick-figure shape. Rob is a specific proper noun, and it would be silly to suggest that each stick figure is named Rob. Cueball, on the other hand, while filling the role of a proper noun, is still generic enough to suggest the any-man nature of the figures. It is descriptive more than nominative.<br /> :::::# Local color. That's part of what distinguishes this site from others, and part of why I've been coming back. I for one would be sad to see that replaced with MacDonalds-like sameness. I ''might'' reconsider if RM's About page definitively said &quot;his name is Rob&quot;... but only reluctantly.<br /> :::::So -1 on the proposition to migrate away from Cueball. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::To respond to your points, #1, Wikipedia is not official or a primary source; it's a community edit encyclopedia like this one. If you'd like me to go over there and reference &quot;Rob&quot;, then all of a sudden Wikipedia will say Rob. Wikipedia isn't the source of credibility for xkcd imo. #2 is interesting, and I take it as a fair point (I'm not suggesting that in every case we see a Cueball it is the same character) but my interest here is consistency. Megan appears in many comic strips where she is listed as &quot;person 2&quot; in the transcript, such as [[1084]]. Should she be given a generic name other than where she is named (Cuebelle?) Similarly for #3, Megan is not refernced on the xkcd About page; it's about consistency. I understand color and such, but to an extent, when you take something that's a blog and turn it into a wiki style pseudo-encyclopedia, one of the casualties sometimes is color. It became inappropriate to use phrases like &quot;I think&quot; in explanations just because of the way the articles are perceived. In the same way, consistency is something that I think is important when going to this style format. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::&lt;small&gt;Just want to insert here that I laughed at &quot;Cubelle&quot; above, but though I enjoyed it, I'd have to say the visual similarity to Cueball would likely cause confusion. Props for the suggestion, though.--[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 18:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; <br /> :::::::* Agreed that Wikipedia is not official or primary, but it is ''de-facto'' (it's likely more linked-to than even xkcd.com is on this site, for some reason.) That standing gives it a level of authority no other site has except the source itself. And agreed, one could very easily go and add Rob, or Cueball, or some other designation to the character(s). But nobody to date has (or, if they have, it may very likely have been reverted, being subject to that evolutionary force Wikipedia in aggregate exerts on subjects there, on needing to be noteworthy.) So while not an absolute authority, it caries a gravitas that other than xkcd itself, no other site really posesses on the matter, and so far, it (the collective body of contributors) has not deemed it important to settle the matter.<br /> :::::::* I'm also not altogether convinced that, in transmogrification from blog to wiki, it necessarily follows that we must become more Wiki''pedia''-like. The medium has afforded a democratization of information here, but not a requirement that information lose its local flavor to become some dessicated academic dissertation. &quot;I think&quot; is, in my opinion, as valid here as it always was, and mediawiki doesn't necessarily impose otherwise.<br /> :::::::* As for consistency, it serves its purpose, but generally I'm not one to be ruled by hobgoblins.<br /> :::::::Anyway, the foregoing being only my opinion, and having express it, I leave it at that. Other minds may differ. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 02:30, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::It seems to me that this discussion has moved away from Cueball/Rob, and perhaps is deserving of it's own section now. When this site was a blog, and not a wiki, there was a clear separation between Jeff's explanations in the main body of the post, and the comments below. For the most part, Jeff wrote in an &quot;editorial voice&quot;, and I don't recall a lot of &quot;I think&quot;, &quot;In my opinion&quot;, etc in the main posting (there was an occasional &quot;I don't get this, can anyone explain it?&quot;, but that's clearly different). I know, at least, I've tried to maintain that color here: in the main page, editorial voice; in the discussion section (included at the bottom of every page, usually), personal voice. I think that works well. In my opinion, I think that &quot;I think&quot; and &quot;In my opinion&quot; have no place where it's not clear who the speaker is. The main pages are group edited, and have no identified speaker, so I wouldn't put it there. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 02:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I concur that Wikipedia has ''some'' gravitas over any other site, and there is a reason it has links here (it is easier to link to an existing encyclopedia article on {{w|quantum physics}} than to start from scratch explaining it here. But in the same way that this may soon be a &quot;wikipedia&quot; for all things xkcd, that still doesn't make explainxkcd official. It may be considered a more reliable source of information than some random blogger, but that doesn't make it an official source. Wikipedia, notably, doesn't call Cueball anything. If it called him Cueball, that would be one thing - the name would have pervaded culture outside this website; but Wikipedia takes no position; I don't see how we can take Wikipedia's failure to reference the character at all and use this as a rationale to make any decision on this site one way or another.<br /> :::::::::I will respond to BlaisePascal's editorial voice comment in a new section [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Default color? ==<br /> <br /> Frankly, I'm not even sure this is an issue on the wiki's end vs. the browser's default, but I've noticed this with other wiki-based software. With the default of Blue links and Purple visited links, I've been noticing a lot lately that the Purple visited links are not really standing out from the otherwise black text. Not sure why this is. Is anyone else noticing this? I'm having a hard time finding wikilinks in text that I've already visited. Perhaps it's just me. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : As a color blind user of explainxkcd, I'd like to put in a vote to up the contrast between visited and not links on the wiki. It doesn't need to be much, but more than it is now would be infinitely helpful. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Has this gone anywhere? I still find it hard to see the visited links (they now simply look like the rest of the text). And the unvisited links are hard to focus on. I'm not sure I can explain it any better. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Please let me know where the comments are for the latest comic. If<br /> I'm not the only one who can't find them, can there be a link next to the comic?<br /> <br /> == Editorial Voice ==<br /> <br /> :''This section is split off in response to a comment by [[user:Blaisepascal]] in the Cueball/Rob discussion above.<br /> I concur with Blaisepascal on the editorial voice issue. &quot;first person&quot; has no place in a wiki, as there is no single editor to be &quot;I&quot;. I have a recollection that when the wiki started, Jeff said something about how in moving to a wiki, he had attempted to edit most of the explanations that has been moved over to remove most of the first-person references, but he invited others to continue this where he missed them. I can't, however, find this reference anywhere anymore. Assuming I am not making this up in my own mind, it's Jeff's site, so I think his style wishes are paramount.<br /> <br /> I agree that most of the personal references on explainxkcd are things like &quot;let's see if I get this right&quot; or &quot;Did I miss something?&quot; or general bloggish comments like sorry I'm late to post; but there are other posts such as [http://www.explainxkcd.com/2010/10/18/connected/ this one] in which part of Jeff's post was: &quot;''This is another one of those xkcd's that I classify as &quot;emo&quot;. [...] Since there is nothing to explain here, [...] I'll wait for the next comic that makes a joke about Lord of the Rings and wormholes or something''&quot; when moved over here.<br /> <br /> The wiki format changes the nature of the explanations. It makes them no longer one person's opinion on the meaning of a comic. It is now a wiki where members of the public will aim to have a complete and accurate explanation built from many editors' thoughts and corrections. I don't think the articles need have encyclopedic definity. I have no issue with phrases like &quot;it appears&quot; or &quot;it may be&quot; where something is ambiguous, but &quot;I think&quot; or &quot;I did a Google search&quot; are not wikipropriate. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:44, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For the most part I completely agree. But I think that the explanations should not be boring. Even without personal pronouns, many of them have a congenial tone, not an overbearing one.<br /> <br /> :For example, when I brought over [[1030: Keyed]], I took out the personal pronouns, but I left in the comment &quot;Oh Beret Guy, never change.&quot; I started coming to the site, in part, because of the tone. I think that that should be preserved despite the inherent non-oneness of the wiki. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:08, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: But the tone should not reflect individuals' tastes. Let the reader decide. --[[User:Smartin|Smartin]] ([[User talk:Smartin|talk]]) 04:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Discussion comments link? ==<br /> <br /> *Does anyone else think that the {{tl|comic discussion}} template should have an argument added for some way to display a link to the comments section of the original blog posts for older comics? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> **I'm not sure that it would always be clear what the comments are referring to since the explanation may differ from the original.-[[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 21:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ***I hear you, and that's a valid point; but it seems a shame to just discard the upwards of a hundred comments that sometimes took place on the old blog. I guess it also matters whether [[User:Jeff]] intends to delete the blog version at some point given the wiki. If it is going to stay up, why not link to the archived comments? The original blog post would be viewable there as well, if there were any differences relevant to those comments. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> *I would, however, like something to be done about the issue of new users finding the discussion section from the explain wiki main page. A suggestion I saw recently on the old site by rewq^ suggesting changing 'go to this comic' to 'comments' would solve the problem. I think it could also be changed to 'go to comments' - [[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 21:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> That's an inventive answer to an intesreting question<br /> <br /> == LiveJournal content ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that people are putting content from Randall's LiveJournal account into comic articles here, which I think is good. But I'd like to make some style suggestions around that.<br /> <br /> Let's look at {{explain|42}}. Now, until someone explicitly pointed it out, I had no idea xkcd started on a LiveJournal account, so comments like &quot;Original quote&quot; or &quot;Original comment&quot; or &quot;Original title&quot; were confusing to me. I had no idea the source of this information. Now that I know better, my suggestions are as follows:<br /> <br /> # These shouldn't be listed as &quot;trivia&quot;. This is official content. I would suggest perhaps this be included in a &quot;Background&quot; section with any other background info on the comic (e.g. for some recent comics, it might reference Randall's fiancée's health issues for relevant comics).<br /> # This &quot;Background&quot; section contains official content and more official than the &quot;Explanation&quot;. The Background section should therefore go first.<br /> # The section should be written in prose, not point form. My sample replacement for the above article would be &quot;this comic was originally posted on Randall's LiveJournal account with the comment &quot;''No laughing, 'less you want some of this too! *hefts golf club menacingly*''&quot;. Randall listed his mood at the time as &quot;sick&quot;. The comic was actually the Xth comic posted on the LiveJournal account, and was included out-of-order when it was numbered as part of ''xkcd''.<br /> # I think [[LiveJournal]] should have a brief article about the original LJ account.<br /> # I note that on other wiki's including, for example [http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Family_(episode) Memory alpha (example)] and on Wikipedia, they often have boxes showing the 'previous'/'next' things on a list (prev/next songs to hit #1 on different music charts, or prev/next tv episodes produced vs. aired). Should we give thought to creating a short sub-list of the Order comics were actually posted on the Livejournal so you can prev/next through that list?<br /> <br /> Thoughts? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 22:17, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I added most of the LJ related &quot;Trivia&quot; just to get it into the wiki. I think expanding it would be nice, but I'm a bit lazy :) I did add a new category for the LJ posts, so they should be easier to find. There are still a few that do not (that I can find) appear in LJ, so I left as &quot;undated&quot; - but added the undated category that someone else had created. I was also considering creating a list ordered by LJ posting order on the LJ category page (to be created) to at least preserve some of the nostalgia. Is there another pre-xkcd site besides LJ that posts might have appeared in? Or are these &quot;undated&quot; posts possibly others that were just lumped into the &quot;early posts&quot; on xkcd? --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 21:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There are three undated comics that I found (and I noted them on the &quot;big board&quot; of all comics at [[list of all comics]]. If no one disagrees, I will start moving sections when I have time and creating any new sections as &quot;Background&quot; rather than &quot;Trivia&quot; where the sections relate to the history or backstory of the comic itself. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::The three undated comics do not appear on LiveJournal, just on the xkcd.com site. Given that (a) all of the comics on LJ from before 2006-1-1 are dated 2006-1-1 on xkcd, (b) all the ones after are dated with the same dates as on LJ, and (c) the three undated comics appear in the middle of the pre-2006 comics on LJ, I suspect that [[Randall]] posted them to the xkcd site first, and as part of a batch of comics he posted to bootstrap the site. So it's entirely likely that the 2006-1-1 date is accurate. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 16:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I added, in the &quot;Trivia&quot; section, a &quot;thread&quot; tying all the LJ comics together, in order. In doing so, I also added the half-dozen or so LJ comics not yet added. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 16:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Programmatically Accessing Comics ==<br /> <br /> I think there should be a way for other websites to view* explanations, (discussions?), etc programmatically.<br /> <br /> This could be used for the [http://explainxkcd.com front page], or a website wanting to show an explanation of a comic that is always up-to-date and correct, etc. <br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;*&lt;/nowiki&gt; I wrote view, but it could also be edit.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> :This could be done with json responses to individual pages including the current explanation for that comic. Similar to how the xkcd json api works now. I don't know if that is feasible in php though. I'm currently on a RoR craze though, so maybe there's an easier and less over-engineered solution I don't know about. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::A cheap way out would be to have PHP page access the SQL DB and yank the necessary text from there. This could be useful for a naitive mobile app. Also, this site needs a mobile version. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == New Edit Explanation Image/Link (Introduced 9/22/12) ==<br /> <br /> Some initial thoughts.<br /> *Will this be a permanent part of each comic? I would not be in favor of each comic in the archives having this disclaimer/large repetitive image as part of the explanation. Instead, can this just be part of the most recent comic? <br /> *The other issue I have is that main page now has one direct link to editing the explanation (the thing least done by users) and none to editing discussion/adding comments (the thing most done by users). I see that the talk page is now displayed on the main page, which I think is a good thing, but I hope that someone can also get the 'add a comment' link on the main page as well. <br /> *In the end I feel there should be links for editing the explanation and adding comments/discussion on the main page and that these links should be proportional in size to their traffic by users (re the link for adding to the discussion should be equal to or larger than the link for the explanation).<br /> --[[User:Shine|Shine]] ([[User talk:Shine|talk]]) 14:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :A few pointers about that:<br /> :* I introduced the &quot;edit explanation&quot; image/link below the explanation I gave for today's comic, mainly because I felt what I had written ''was'' indeed incomplete (I was lacking an explanation for the &quot;[has only one review]&quot; part and for the title text). So in a way that was some sort of calling for help with the explanation. And once done I thought it was a good idea to have a highly visible &quot;edit&quot; link for the latest comic explanation on the main page (''&quot;so that people seeing something they could add would feel invited to do so (wiki style). In my opinion this would be a good way to improve the quality of the user-generated explanations&quot;'', as I said [[Talk:Main Page#Direct link to latest comic|here]]).<br /> :* Later on, I added the &quot;may be incorrect&quot; notion in the banner, because I saw that people having different explanations only mentioned them in the comments, instead of editing my explanation (which after all could be wrong). So I fear there's some sort of &quot;we don't touch what has been done&quot; effect, where the first explanation given will be more likely to stick and not be corrected by readers who are not used to the idea that they can edit it (actually, if someone has a better explanation than the one I put, I'd be happy to see it corrected!).<br /> :* That edit banner should not be a permanent part of each comic. My opinion is that it should stay on the latest comic's page (even when the explanation could be considered complete) until there is a new comic, in order to invite as much people as possible to share their explanation; and it should also, of course, be on the comic pages for which the explanation is considered incomplete, for instance [[51: Malaria|this]] (empty) or [[46: Secrets|that]] (partial only).<br /> :* It would be nice indeed to have also, on the main page, a direct link to add a comment (exactly like the one on [[1098: Star Ratings|the comic page]]), but that is currently not feasible automatically. This is one of the reasons why I suggested an other way to handle the latest comic (see [[#Latest comic handling]] above), which I actually still think would be better, and in particular which would allow to do all that (including the edit banner) nicely automatically from the main page.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Notice templates==<br /> I would like to suggest a template for a notice saying &quot;this page requires copy editing,&quot; and one saying &quot;this page may be unclear in its meaning,&quot; or something of the sort for each. the comic posted on 8/22/12 could use both of these. (unsigned comment by [[User:Dave|Dave]] 19:11, 23 August 2012‎ )<br /> <br /> :I agree. I discussed this matter with [[User:Blaisepascal]] in respect of his template {{tl|Incomplete}} on its talk page. I have updated that template to {{tl|Incomplete/beta1}} and created {{tl|ambox}} as a generic message box ''xkcd''-style where other message templates can be created and color coded like on wikipedia, such as the ones you suggest.<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, because of the image scaling issues, the ambox template displays two broken images at the moment which we agreed shouldn't replace the existing template until the images are unbroken. I'm not sure anyone is working on the image scaling problem, is one of the issues. In any event, I also don't see the point in creating other notice templates until the issue is fixed and we can use the standardized template. I'm really hoping someone is working on the image scaling problem... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:36, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I changed the template to use the {{tl|notice}} template that is already being used in several places. I'll delete {{tl|ambox}} as it's redundant, but the styling of {{tl|notice}} can be changed if such is desired. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 02:40, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Denoting comic &quot;series&quot; ==<br /> <br /> There are several &quot;series&quot; of comics. Is there a better/prefered way of notating these? Currently I have been creating a &quot;Category:Series Name&quot;, e.g. (not all of these exist yet)<br /> * [Category:Comics featuring Barrel Boy](1-5) (Should this be just &quot;Barrel Boy&quot;?)<br /> * [Category:Journal](1-5)<br /> * [Category:The Race](1-5)<br /> * [Category:My Hobby](random)<br /> * [Category:1337](1-5)<br /> * [Category:Choices](1-5)<br /> * [Category:Parody Week](5 in this &quot;series&quot;, but others fit the genre)<br /> * [Category:Red Spiders](4 in this &quot;genre&quot;, 2 explicitly numbered)<br /> * [Category:Secretary](1-5)<br /> * [Category:Five-Minute Comics](1-3)<br /> * [Category: Guest Week](5 comics, but not exactly a &quot;series&quot;).<br /> <br /> I usually also create a REDIRECT of &quot;Series Name&quot; to &quot;Category: Series Name&quot;(breaks for &quot;Journal&quot;, as it is also a comic title.<br /> Should we have another meta-category for series comics? What about a [Series:Series Name] &quot;category&quot;? or does that break wiki? --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 23:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categories for Proposals Page ==<br /> <br /> Maybe just simply two categories, resolved and unresolved? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> Or stickers that say Open/Closed. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Moving the Wiki {{done|Closed}}==<br /> <br /> What if explainxkcd.com/wiki was move to explainxkcd.com and explainxkcd.com would be moved to explainxkcd.com/blog? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> +1 (44)<br /> <br /> -1 (0)<br /> <br /> : That's my plan long term. That might make a lot of things like shortURL possible. Just have to get some time to get it sorted out. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> &lt;hr /&gt;<br /> Sorry if your votes don't appear immediately. I will have them update automatically soon. Hopefully. And if you clicked my signature wanting to +1 this page, sorry for the confusion. DanB and Lcarsos, your +1's have been added to the count. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> :+1 from me. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 14:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :+1 as well. I keep hitting the blog when I mean to go to the wiki. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chart type comics ==<br /> <br /> Some comics (circuit diagram, US states,eyes sights, among others) are in a characteristic chart format- where it is all based around a chart of some kind or the other. Should we have a separate template for them, for the type of comics?<br /> <br /> And somebody should actually create all the pages in the required format without explanations, so that other users can fill on the explanation. I can give explanations, but need somebody to make the pages first<br /> <br /> [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 17:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :All the images have been uploaded, and a template exists at [[User:Blaisepascal/newcomictemplate]] that can be copied/pasted into a new comic page that just needs to be filled in. [[User:Lcarsos]] has written a [[User:Lcarsos#Ruby_importer_script|Ruby importer script]] that will create an almost-ready-to-upload page for you. All you need to do is fill in the explanation, proof-read, and add useful Wiki links. You don't need special privileges to create new pages.<br /> :Personally, I find comic pages devoid of explanation counter to the intent of this site, and I try not to create them. If I put up a page, I try to make sure it has an explanation. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 18:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree with Blaisepascal. If a comic does not have an explanation its page should not exist so that it is easy to tell how much work there is left to be done. If suddenly all the pages are created, but none of them have explanations, a passing user won't know that there is still work to be done, and potentially won't pitch in to help complete the site.<br /> :As far as charts go, be sure to tag them with [[:Category:Charts]] and I like to change the transcript into a wiki table format. Of course, if the page doesn't have a transcript section then be sure you get the transcript from xkcd's json api (There is information about how to work it in [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Coordination#Issue dates]], as well as my [[User:Lcarsos#Ruby Importer scipt|Ruby script]] pulls in the transcript if it exists. You're still on your own to get the explanation from the blog (I'm working on that)).<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Categories ==<br /> (cut from Chart Type Comics section above, as seems new topic) [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 00:14, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ok. Also, add a new section for proposing templates. We can have a very varied range of templates, like 'Comics with Black Hat', 'Comics with Raptor reference' etc... That will provide a useful ground for comparision of the most common themes [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :From context, I assume that by &quot;templates&quot;, you mean &quot;categories&quot;? [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 18:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think you'd benefit from taking a gander at [[:Category:Comics by featured characters]] and [[:Category:Comics by topic]]. I think we're still debating what to do about comics with actual people in them. But that will get you a good start. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I'd be okay with creating a [[:Category:Comics featuring real people]] and including sub-categories for Cory Doctorow, the Firefly cast, RMS, Ron Paul, and other recurring real-life people. <br /> :: But then, my general philosophy is more links, more pages, more explanation the better. One-shot fictional characters (like ponytail-Sarah in [[84: National Language]]) probably don't need their own category/page, though.[[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 02:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I really like that idea. I too am of the more categories tribe, but I prefer them to be properly nested. I want to try my hand at creating categories let me see if I can do this. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 00:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Okay, the beginnings are in place. Though I used [[:Category:Comics featuring real people]] as most comics that reference these people, in fact, feature them. I've also created a [[Playpen balls]] category under [[:Category:Comics by topic]] as it seems to me that it's referenced enough that it's necessary.<br /> <br /> ::::Question: Should we mirror Featured Characters by also having a page for each character and a Category:Real people, or will the Category pages be good enough?<br /> <br /> ::::The categories are going to get/are getting crowded with all the categories, is there a better way to represent them rather than a list? I'm thinking something that looks like [[:Template:navbox-characters]] except it needs to maintain the link on highlighted items, and it needs to be capable of multiple highlights. I think it would need sections for Featured Characters, Real people, Series (Barrel boy, Secretary, The Race), and Recurring Topics. What I mean by multiple highlights is, if they exist in that comic, i.e. if a comic features Black Hat, Cueball, Cory Doctorow, and Playpen balls, all of those should be highlighted.<br /> <br /> ::::[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 02:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> It looks like a good time to resurrect this topic. So, If you are going to categorize pages into a category that doesn't exist yet. MAKE SURE that you create the category page, don't just let it be a red link. That looks so sloppy. While on the subject of sloppy, Alphabetize by type the categories on the comic page. I go: Main characters, minor characters, real people, topics, series.<br /> <br /> My personal requirements for making a category:<br /> *For new topics<br /> **For new topics, must be the central topic of ''at least'' two comics, with a few more tangentially related.<br /> **It should be something that someone reads and goes &quot;I wonder if there are more comics about this?&quot; It is not simply creating a tag cloud for a post on a blog. That metaphor is gone. These are categories, like sections in an index to a book, or rather an ''encyclopedia''.<br /> **A perfect example of this is [[User:Bpothier|Bpothier]]'s introduction of [[:Category:Comics with color]]. I've often wanted a list of all xkcds to date that have color on them. You'll know you've hit on something when another editor starts going through the pages and adding them to the new category.<br /> *For new recurring characters<br /> **They must recur. This seems obvious, but Adrian Lamo (for example, {{Wiktionary|AFAIK}}), only appears in [[1337: Part 3]]. This is a useless category if there are no other comics he appears in. It only goes to clutter up other, well populated categories.<br /> *For other new categories<br /> **You better have a damn solid case for why you have added a category that wasn't a sub-category of [[:Category:Comics by topic]] or [[:Category:Comic series]]. ''And if you do'', '''be polite''' and present it on the community portal so that the circling editors don't come in like brain-dead vultures to tear apart and re-parent your new category.<br /> <br /> It is brain dead easy to create a page (spam bots do it all the time). It is much more complicated to get a page deleted by an admin once it has been created. You can tag it [[:Category:Pages to delete]], but non-spam pages marked this aren't often cleaned out. What I'm trying to say here is, be judicious in picking the names of pages you want to create. It's a pain to have to move Comics featuring Barrel Boy into a [[Barrel]] category.<br /> <br /> Also, categorizing a page as something because of the explanation is not ok. These categories are here to group comics together, not as a general tag cloud for the wiki.<br /> <br /> '''TL;DR:''' When creating a new category, create the goddamn category page (red links icky) and have ''at least'' 2 pages in the category. For big changes come here and ask first. [http://dontbeadickday.com/ Wil Wheaton says: &quot;Don't be a dick!&quot;]<br /> <br /> Questions, comments, improvements, pies to the face accepted. Being-non-useful/criticism-with-intent-to-destroy is rude.<br /> <br /> [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No, Lcarsos, don't hold back; please tell us what you really think! ;-) All kidding aside, these suggestions seem really pretty good. There may be some subjectivity in terms of what constitutes contributing to a tag cloud vs the categorization you mention here. But as you point out, that understanding is likely to evolve: if one creates a category that somebody else runs with it, that's a pretty good indicator. I'm glad this categorization has been going on as it has; were it not for my ''de facto'' role as ''Grim Spammer-Reaper'' I'd be in there helping sort and categorize 'em all, too. So huge thanks! -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Just to clarify, I assume what you mean by &quot;''Alphabetize by type the categories on the comic page. I go: Main characters, minor characters, real people, topics, series.''&quot; is that one should ''group'' categories by type, and then alphabetize within them? If that's the case, I don't see any major issue with that; that said, I tend to add categories by deemed 'importance', i.e. I would add comics featuring Cueball before comics featuring Black Hat or Beret Guy just because Cueball is the central character in the series. Similarly, I would also reorder so that &quot;series&quot; comes before topic, if not before characters as well. The first category a &quot;My Hobby&quot; comic comes into, in my mind, is the &quot;My Hobby&quot; category. Only then is it a comic that happens to feature Cueball, or happens to be on the topic of computers. That's my personal view of it. The only reason I would keep characters first is because it's the most common category type a comic will fall into. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Randall in Comics ==<br /> <br /> In comic 541 (TED Talk), Randall uses a Cueball character to refer to himself. How should this be included in the Wiki? Cited: http://xkcd.com/541/ AWiseGuy (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think, since he also seems to appear as himself in [[1057: Klout]] it would be appropriate to create a [[:Category:Comics featuring Randall Munroe]] and parent it to [[:Category:Comics featuring real people]]. I'll let you do that. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:51, 1 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Characters appearing only by name. ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that in several comics, known and named characters appear by name only without any physical appearance. Off the top of my head, I can think of Miss Lenhart (who actually appears twice by name before making her first real appearance: http://xkcd.com/135/ and in http://xkcd.com/416/) and Rob in comic 1102. I think these should be included as appearances, or under some other related but separate category, because they do provide character development. Thoughts on this? [[User:AWiseGuy|AWiseGuy]] ([[User talk:AWiseGuy|talk]]) 19:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> :I consider references to be apperances. Anyone interested in reading all comics relating to that character or looking for a specific comic featuring that character might be remmebering one where it was a mention by name, not by apperance, and they should be included in the categories for ease of reference, IMO. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:13, 4 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> There's also Cory Doctorow, and I personally would like to know more about him. I came to explainxkcd to find out who he is, and he's not even mentioned. So he should be added to this list of characters by name.{{unsigned|‎205.189.255.122}}<br /> <br /> == Also explain cartoons from the XKCD book? ==<br /> <br /> Hi!<br /> As many of you surely know, many comics from the main site were featured in the book xkcd: volume 0. Some of them where altered or had extra explanations. Moreover, there where quite a few riddles and new comics in the book, which should be explained here, too. The forums did a great job on solving the great big riddles which lead to the legendary &quot;official&quot; XKCD-meetup with Randall. --[[Special:Contributions/137.193.213.160|137.193.213.160]] 09:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Oops, for got to log in, this suggestion came from me: [[User:Gefrierbrand|Gefrierbrand]] ([[User talk:Gefrierbrand|talk]]) 09:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just add 'explain' before the 'xkcd.com' ==<br /> <br /> You know how you there are services like [http://www.youtuberepeat.com YouTube Repeat] which let you go to the corresponding part of their site by just adding `repeat` before the `.com` of the YouTube video URL?<br /> <br /> Likewise, let us just add `explain` before the `xkcd.com` part in any comic URL and let it redirect us to the appropriate wiki post. For example: `explainxkcd.com/1000` would redirect to `http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1000`. I think since the site is based on PHP, it'd be very easy to just send a 301 Redirect header along.<br /> <br /> This will be of immense comfort and will probably see me and others using ExplainXKCD.com a lot mre ! Happy reading :)<br /> <br /> {{unsigned|YatharthROCK|15:17, 16 September 2012}}<br /> <br /> :In a way, that's the plan... per [[#Moving the Wiki ✓ Closed|#Moving the Wiki]] above, the `/wiki` part would disappear, and with shortURL at the same time (mentioned there and at other places as well), the `index.php?title=` would disappear as well. Therefore, explainxkcd.com/1000 would get you the [[1000]] page, which itself redirects to the explanation of the comic ([[1000: 1000 Comics]]). So I guess the only issue is: when will this be done?... - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 10:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: I'd LOVE this working. I've worked on this a bunch and only succeeded in bricking the site. If anyone has any advice, I'd love the help. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't think that there is a wiki way to do this, as I've never set up mediawiki before (I should get around to it though). But from 10,000 feet it appears to me that all of the wiki software lives inside a /wiki/ directory on the server, and the blog lives in the root directory. Currently, all of mediawiki's pages are being generated by being passed GET variables, and all of WordPress' pages are being generated by its use of mod_rewrite (why the difference, I don't know. I've never set up mediawiki, and thus never had to try to get mod_rewrite working for it). This is a problem, because any url sent to the server such as explainxkcd.com/1000 is causing the server to look for a directory named 1000, and when it doesn't find it, it invokes mod_rewrite and passes 1000 to the index.php of the root directory as a search term, which activates WordPress which searches for any entries dated in the year 1000 (Wordpress treats the first &quot;directory&quot; as the year), naturally none exist so WordPress generates a 404 error.<br /> <br /> :::While the blog exists, I think the only way to do this would be to write a .htaccess that conditionally reroutes directory misses to /wiki/ so something like explainxkcd.com/1000 would be sent to explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1000 but explainxkcd.com/2012/04 would still be sent to WordPress to find entries posted in April 2012.<br /> <br /> :::As soon as we can get rid of the blog (which is not yet, because there are a lot of explanations still there that haven't been migrated over) the logic that has to be in the .htaccess becomes much simpler. Anything gets redirected to explainxkcd.com/wiki/. I say anything, and I mean anything because URI requests for anything under explainxkcd.com/wiki/ apache will find the /wiki/ directory and pass everything into there (mod_rewrite or as it currently is) and anything not matchin the /wiki/ directory can be 302'd into /wiki/ for the wiki to find it.<br /> <br /> :::I hope that makes sense. If that's too long, let me sum up. '''TL;DR:''' Not very feasible until all explanations in the blog are in the wiki and we can get rid of WordPress.<br /> <br /> :::--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Yup - I certainly would be using htaccess file and that's the approach that has NOT worked in the past. It is possible it needs some tweaking so that it works for the wiki. I'm not sure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: What if you had a script to make a redirect file to the wiki with that comic. So it would make a file 1, 2, ..., 473, ..., etc. Each file (eg 1111) would redirect to /wiki/index.php?title=1111. Then when a better solution is invented, a simple regex ([0-9]+\.php or [0-9]+\.html) would remove all the unnecessary files. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]] 15:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hi, joining the conversation: Could we perhaps also ask the original administrator of explainxkcd to redirect the address of his site here? It'll be easier to get here and it might generate more traffic as well. --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 01:48, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The person you would want to talk about that is Jeff. The very same Jeff that started, and is bureaucrat of this wiki. So, read the conversation that happened above, and you'll see some of the technical reasons why this hasn't happened yet. And again, I ask that you please comment in chronological order, and that you don't add your comment in a place that it disrupts all of the nested conversation that's already happened. There was an entire comment thread that you put your new comment in the middle of. It was hard to tell if you wanted to reply to this section's OP or anyone else in that thread. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 08:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Add explanations for what-if.xkcd.com ==<br /> A new [http://what-if.xkcd.com sub-site] from Randall calls for new explanations.<br /> This might not need quite as much explaining, but it is worthy of reference anyway.<br /> --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 16:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think Randall actually does quite a good job of explaining everything in what-if. If we had a go at it, it would pretty much just be a page with a link to general and special relativity pages of wikipedia. Other than that, he provides links for almost everything he discusses. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:21, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But we may want to discuss his topics among ourselves. I am reading the lightning topic today, and wishing I could comment on it or add fragments of my own experience to it.[[User:Noni Mausa|Noni Mausa]] ([[User talk:Noni Mausa|talk]]) 11:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> ::...then you have http://forums.xkcd.com, made exactly for that purpose; in particular: [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=94449 xkcd • View topic - What-if 0016: Lightning].<br /> ::Don't want to seem unfriendly here, I'm not trying to &quot;get you out of here&quot;, it's just that if you want to ''discuss his topics'', ''comment on it or add fragments of your own experience to it'', then I believe that would be the best place for you to do so; and where you could find other people to share it, as well.<br /> ::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 17:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Thanks, I will go have a look. I'm somewhat of a newbie, quod erat demonstrandum.[[User:Noni Mausa|Noni Mausa]] ([[User talk:Noni Mausa|talk]]) 02:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == News Links ==<br /> Certain pages have custom news links.<br /> Many use the generic news link, which these days refers to what-if.xkcd.com.<br /> Template &quot;comic&quot; should probably explcitly support and display custom news.<br /> (An effort should be made at times to scan for updated news.)<br /> --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 16:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> : And, of course, there should be a category for anything with custom news. --[[User:Divad27182|Divad27182]] ([[User talk:Divad27182|talk]]) 16:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New List requests ==<br /> <br /> List of comics related to cancer -<br /> (Umwelt, 818,828,836,925,931,933)<br /> <br /> [Keep on adding new requests below this]<br /> [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 18:24, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> : Good suggestion. One observation... this is essentially a democratic institution, so feel free to put the catagory tags on each of these pages and get those editorial props due to you for recommending the category. I'm guessing &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Category:Cancer]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; should be a good start. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 23:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Disambiguation ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I think we need to start considering disambiguation pages.<br /> <br /> Off the top of my head there's<br /> *[[17: What If]] and [[what if?]]<br /> *[[786: Exoplanets]] and [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> <br /> If you search &quot;what if&quot; the redirect takes you to the [[17: What If]]. I've added a note to that page that links to [[what if?]].<br /> <br /> [[Exoplanets]] (the title redirect) is an informal disambiguation page. But, neither comic links to the other one in case someone clicks links and gets to the wrong page.<br /> <br /> In terms of notes on pages that there is a disambiguation page that they might be looking for, I think that the note should be made under the comic template so that people clicking the next/previous links don't have to move their cursor (I find nothing more infuriating than having a next/previous link move around as I'm browsing a website).<br /> <br /> Anyone else? Thoughts? [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:42, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == RSS Feed ==<br /> <br /> We need a new RSS feed so people using news readers can easily be notified of new comics. {{unsigned|67.186.234.12}}<br /> <br /> :First and foremost, a disambiguation: '''We are not xkcd'''. We are a group of people who love xkcd and sometimes a joke goes over our head, and we'd go into fits of OCD rage if we don't understand every joke in xkcd.<br /> <br /> :If you want to read xkcd, subscribe to the RSS feed that [[Randall]] provides. [http://xkcd.com/rss.xml here's a link] A new xkcd is posted at midnight eastern (US East coast) of every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.<br /> <br /> :We are just here for the explanation, which is community based. It takes quite a few edits from many people before an explanation is really explained-to-death and every joke found and beaten with a club to extract maximum joke-explanation value. But there's usually a fairly substantial effort at an explanation by noon eastern. That's about the best we can offer you.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:19, 12 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comic Difficulty score ==<br /> <br /> We should add a difficulty score to each page. Each XKCD comic could be awarded a score based on the number of people that have to visit explainxkcd.com on the day a comic is posted and a couple days after. Inspired by comic: http://www.xkcd.com/1137/<br /> <br /> Jim<br /> <br /> :That is a cool idea! --[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:06, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Contributions and revert buttons ==<br /> <br /> The main vandalism comes from IP adresses, and one IP may attack more than one page when it logs on. So its best to have a contributions link show up beside user page and talk page for every page history and signature; and wherever else it is used that way.<br /> <br /> Also a quick way to deal with vandalism is to have two buttons on the show history page-<br /> 1. Revert this edit [undo] (for all, including IP users, not just normal users)<br /> 2. Revert to this edit (Just beside every edit on the edit history)<br /> <br /> These two buttons (links, whatever u call them) will make it much more efficient for vandal-reverters to tackle them down.<br /> <br /> [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 20:08, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Oh and an easy template to keep tagging vandals, and vandalism affected articles, as well as a quick way to say that whatever we are doing is editing vandalism. I truly would not want to press any more than 4 buttons/clicks ideally on one page when I am trying to revert edits.<br /> <br /> The tagging vandals and vandalism affected pages will help admins keep fast track of whos the worst vandal and block that range of IPs from editing (except to submit edit request to admins) and which are worst affected pages (to protect them) [[User:TheOriginalSoni|TheOriginalSoni]] ([[User talk:TheOriginalSoni|talk]]) 20:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Subsection for title text explanation ==<br /> <br /> Hey! On trial I created subsections for some longer explanations of the title text on some pages, like this: [[804: Pumpkin Carving#Explanation]]. Do you think that is helpful? – [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:22, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Good idea. In some cases it might be the best choice. I just did that on [[1074: Moon Landing]] too :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Making a special sub-section for the title text only makes sense for large explanations. Explanations that are maybe only 2-3 scrappy paragraphs, and then an explanation of the title text, is not so dense that it is hard to find it. I like this as an idea, but I think that only the really large explanations should have the subsection. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 16:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Explain other webcomics too? ==<br /> <br /> How about we explain other webcomics too, e.g. Penny Arcade? --[[User:SurturZ|SurturZ]] ([[User talk:SurturZ|talk]]) 02:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Good god, no. We've barely even finished xkcd. All these explanations pages still need a lick of polish, and there's still heaps of red links in the list of all comics page. Also, the wiki's called explainxkcd. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 02:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Whatever Happened to the Template? &amp; Transcript Redirect ==<br /> <br /> I've been using the template whenever I make a new page for an explanation, but I think it's been gone for a couple of weeks now. Does anyone think they could possibly resurrect it? I'm just here to explain, I'm really not a pro with the technical details, so please bear with me.<br /> <br /> Also, I got to thinking: In the List of All Comics, there are redirects for the Number, the Title, and the Talk pages, but has anyone thought about making a redirect for the transcript? I'm pushing for transcript help in a bunch of different areas mostly because I think people have been filling it in themselves without going to the site.<br /> --[[User:Castriff|Jimmy C]] ([[User talk:Castriff|talk]]) 02:07, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Add unexplained strips ==<br /> <br /> At the moment, browsing through the explanations using the previous and next buttons is interrupted whenever there's an explanation missing.<br /> <br /> I think adding a page with the strip fr all of those with a short message like &quot;no one has explained this yet, want to give it a shot?&quot; would make the wiki easier to browse through and will get more strips explained faster.<br /> <br /> :I don't think that would happen. If suddenly it was much easier for people to skip over pages that had no explanation, I think they would do exactly that, skip right over it. On the same side of that coin, If suddenly there are no longer any red links on the [[List of all comics]] then everyone perusing that page assumes that all the comics have been explained and don't need to contribute any more. It's astonishing how quickly an [[589: Designated Drivers|embedded]] red link gets an explanation page created simply to get rid of the red link.<br /> <br /> :Secondarily, ''many'' of the pages created recently aren't being created with their numerical and titular redirects. Without the numerical redirect, the comic template can't find that there is a previous/next comic to link to. Every once in a while somebody will go through and try to notice all the pages that don't have their redirects created but it's an unscientific process that only happens occasionally. If we could get every joe blow that comes in and vomits up a poorly done explanation to create the redirects I wouldn't be quite as annoyed at their lack of show-don't-tell-manship. But, since they can't be bothered to put the date in the comic template, I doubt we'll ever get people to create the redirects.<br /> <br /> :'''TL;DR:''' No more red links, no more work gets done on the back catalog.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 14:28, 21 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xplainkcd.com ==<br /> <br /> When I first saw this site I thought it should definitely be at xplainkcd.com or at least redirect from that url {{unsigned|115.166.22.158|12:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> : I like that idea! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yeah! If it's possible, it would be cool! At least as a redirect. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Section style and usage ==<br /> <br /> I am new here and I'm trying to get up to speed with the culture. I have a few questions about how and where to use sections (== this ==). I am more willing to go with (and enforce) whatever norms there are here, but I have not seen them actually discussed. <br /> <br /> # '''Is it OK to create sections in Discussion pages?''' I have been told no, but there are many examples extant of this usage in this Wiki and indeed in Wikipedia.<br /> # '''Section title case''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Acronyms Wikipedia's style guide] recommends sentence case, not title case. There are many title cased section headers here. <br /> # '''Links''' I do not have a reference for this but it seems to me putting links in section code (== [[&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;this&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] == ) is bad form. <br /> <br /> Last note -- it's understood if these bylaws have not yet been written. I can see that a few of you have made a huge personal investment to make this Wiki what it is today, and that is a credit to you all -- this is awesome! As a long-time aficionado of xkcd I applaud your work and look forward to further collaboration.<br /> --[[User:Smartin|Smartin]] ([[User talk:Smartin|talk]]) 04:15, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :As a general rule, we stick to the standard format that existing pages follow, with an optional trivia section below the transcript. Some zealous editors like to add other sections though, which tend to be for the most part unneeded or redundant. If something you want to add doesn't help to explain the comic in some way, but the inclusion of which would somehow still add to the page, *and* it doesn't fall under the trivia category, a new section is warranted. This isn't the case most of the time though, so editors usually fold the content of extraneous sections into &quot;Explanation&quot; or &quot;Trivia.&quot; We have no policy on links in titles, and they're allowed so long as they are appropriate; the link is useful and can't be folded into the section itself. And we use title case for titles cuz it just makes sense. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We generally do not (or at least, discourage) use sections on the talk/discussion pages for explanation pages. This is purely for looks. The comic discussion section of the explanation page looks/feels wrong if there are level 2 section breaks in the transclusion. Also, if the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Table_of_contents Table of Contents] starts showing up on a page, such as on [[Click and Drag]] the sections created on the talk page also show up in the TOC. This gets confusing, and this is why we prefer not to use them on explanation talk pages. Everywhere else we follow standard wiki format and do use sections on the discussion pages.<br /> <br /> :Personally, I think that links in section titles looks wrong, but I choose not to be the dictator of style in this matter. :p<br /> <br /> :Please feel free to make edits. The worst that happens is someone reverts your edit. If it's a big enough issue and/or you don't seem to be learning from what people are fixing about your edits someone will leave a comment on your talk page. That's it. We might leave a nasty-gram in the edit summary, but oh well. We only ban for malicious intent. Honestly working to better the wiki is good, even if sometimes we grumble about it.<br /> <br /> :--[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oh, I just looked at your talk page. I completely forgot that that happened. Don't worry about it. Learning the ropes is part of the experience. Do make edits, and if they're wrong, we'll nudge you in the right direction. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I have been moving some trivia sections to directly below the explanation, in order to make it more consistent, and easier to survey and maintain. Often the dividing line between trivia and explanation is not entirely clear, and in articles without a trivia section the end of the explanation very often contains trivia-like information. (e.g. [[1155: Kolmogorov Directions]]) -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protip ==<br /> <br /> Anyone for adding ''Protip'' as a [[:Category:Comic series|Comic series]]. I have found five so far: [[653]], [[711]], [[1022]], [[1047]] and [[1156]]. (There are also a few comics with a protip title text.) -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think that qualifies as a recurring topic (thus worthy of a category), but not as a series, where you can see a clear sequence. In fact, [[:Category:My Hobby|My Hobby]] has the same limitation, for what I suggest it to be removed from [[:Category:Comic series]]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Seconded. Looks general and common enough to be a category. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Okay, great! Do you think that the ones with a &quot;protip:&quot; title text should be included? Besides, I think I might be the one responsiple for moving My Hobby from [[:Category:Comics by topic|Comics by topic]] to Comic series. I felt that all the My Hobby comics were about different topics, but maybe i've got to narrow an interpretation of the word &quot;topic&quot;. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 15:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Can you link to the protip-in-title-text comics?<br /> :::: As for My Hobby, note that categories aren't mutually exclusive. They can be in the &quot;my hobby&quot; topic, and each of them further categorized as appropriate: music, math, etc. Makes sense? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: I just searched for protip in the xkcd search bar. Here: [[1084]], [[427]]. And yes, makes sense. I've moved My Hobby back to &quot;by topic&quot;. -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Category: Sports ==<br /> <br /> How about creating a new &quot;Sports&quot; category? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 15:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Well, maybe. Everyone aren't so keen on new categories here. Which comics are you thinking of, for a start? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 20:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::We definitely need to reach an agreement as a community on when to create new categories. Something simple like a minimum of 3 (or, say, 5) existing comics. Since we're already at the proposals' portal... what do you guys think about that? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::My opinion: Five would be enough to qualify. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 09:31, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I vote for four. But it should also be a reasonable thing to categorize, like sports, not like &quot;sports with Cueball containing at least three anagram words&quot;. Wich sholdn't be a problem. :) But the best name choice could be tricky sometimes. e.g. &quot;Film &amp; television&quot;, Film &amp; TV&quot;, &quot;Film&quot;, &quot;Films&quot;, or &quot;Movies&quot;? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::<br /> ::::Agreed, five should be enough to create the category without having to discuss it. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> : OK, let's start with [[588: Pep Rally|588]], [[1092: Michael Phelps|1092]], [[904: Sports|904]] and [[1107: Sports Cheat Sheet|1107]]. Should be able to find a few more. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 05:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, it's a broad subject so there are probably several more. -[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 12:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::I found another one, sort of, in [[929:Speculation|929]] (although it hasn't been explained yet). Should I get the ball rolling (no pun intended) on setting up the category? Don't wanna do it unilaterally and get yelled at. ;) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 06:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think you should. On a wiki, getting stuck in discussions which die without a conclusion, to the point that motivated people give up without having done anything, is definitely counter-productive, and phrases like [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|Wikipedia:Be bold]] are here to remind us of that. Seems like people agreed that you ''could'', and after a while nobody said that you ''shouldn't'', so I'd say do it. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Category: Sex ==<br /> <br /> I think we should also create a Sex category. There's no ''doubt'' we can find more than three examples. I'll start looking for them and post the ones I find in here; again, I don't wanna create a large category by myself without community consent. [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 09:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> *OK, the ones for Category: Sex that I've found so far are [[443]], [[219]], [[550]], [[1026]], [[575]], [[468]], [[592]], [[320]], [[1101]], [[417]], [[713]], [[672]], [[230]], [[436]], [[940]], [[532]], [[649]], [[176]], [[1006]], [[596]] and [[717]], and I'm sure there are many more. Should we create this category? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 23:17, 3 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Same as [[#Category: Sports|above]], do it. Oh, already did; well, all the better. - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 00:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==New character==<br /> As per [[Talk:1178: Pickup Artists]], the character with hair has appeared in quite a few comics now, and he's starting to become a recurring character. Shall we go ahead with inaugurating him into our list of regular characters, and what name shall we assign him? Current candidate names include Hairy and Harry. Anyone? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 00:07, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I like Harry :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 01:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Cos made a point in the discussion on [[Talk:1178: Pickup Artists]] that Hairy is directly descriptive, whereas Harry is not obvious to visitors. On the other hand, not all names are descriptive ([[Danish]]) and I think this wiki is entitled to create some xkcd-in-culture, and not just describe. And Harry is quite funny.<br /> ::I wonder: has [[Randall]] ever called him anything at all in the transcript? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, he's not named in a any official transcripts, but he's already called Harry in quite a few comic explanations. Then again, I do like having a more descriptive name for him. Shall we hold this up to a vote? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think we should wait a little for a few more viewpoints to crop up. Also, can someone link to some more comics he's been featured in? I've got [[1028: Communication]], [[1027: Pickup Artist]] and [[1178: Pickup Artists]]. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 23:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::I actually like what that anon said: ''Curly''. Second choice: Hairy (being descriptive, a la Black Hat, Beret, Cueball, etc.) While there's talk about in-culture, we've done that with the names Cueball, Beret, etc. It's my opinion that the only names that should be &quot;real&quot; proper names are those that are named in the comic. Megan, Miss Lenhart, etc. Danish (as is discussed below) isn't truly a proper name, but you could argue it's a meta-description (one attributed by Black hat.) So that's my vote: yes for '''Curly''' or '''Hairy''', no for Harry. [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::That's right, [[Danish]] is not descriptive, but 1/ that name was suggested because the character [[515: No One Must Know|was called that way in the comic]], which is a tiny bit like a name given by the author (at least more than Harry which we have completely made up), and 2/ in that case it's hard to find a descriptive term: use something that revolves around her black hair (her only descriptive feature), and you easily mix up with [[Megan]]; the only graphical difference is that her hair is ''long'', but what kind of name can you make out of that?<br /> :::For this new character, I suggest Hairy because it comes as the easy solution with every advantage: descriptive, easy to understand, and it's not ugly... I actually see no reason to resort to a made-up name like Harry.<br /> :::[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 22:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : '''Alright. So the discussion's been had, and the most oft recommended name appears to be Hairy. All in favor, say aye. If more than 1/3 of editors agree and we have more than 6 votes, Hairy it is.''' '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' [[User:Guru-45|Guru-45]] ([[User talk:Guru-45|talk]]) 06:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye''' to Hairy. [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. Harry would be a nice nod to the fact that he's actually hairy, but indeed it's better to avoid inside jokes. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. I'm convinced! –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 17:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :# '''Aye'''. Hairy. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Hooray! We now have a [[:Category:Comics featuring Hairy]], with four pages already! Does anyone feel compelled to create &quot;[[Hairy]]&quot;, with a brief description and a nice profile pic like the other characters? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:58, 3 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ambiguous characters ==<br /> <br /> I've been thinking about the problem of the ambiguity of characters. &quot;Is this really Cueball even though he has an eye and half a nose?&quot;, &quot;This is very likely ''not'' x.&quot; &quot;Darnit, these arn't Cueballs, these are Randall and his friends!&quot;, and so on. The character ambiguity is standard for xkcd (not less so in the early ones), and comes from the very loose or &quot;free&quot; way Randall uses his characters to be whatever he needs at the moment. It's simply often impossible for us to know whether he had e.g. &quot;Cueball&quot; or himself in mind, when drawing a particular comic (and I'd say: probably often both).<br /> <br /> I want to suggest that we in general have a likewise rather loose policy towards including characters in the categories for the comics. So that reasonably ambiguous cases should be included in e.g. [[Category: Comics featuring Ponytail]] (does she have a ponytail?) This is not because I believe this or that to really be this or that; I just don't believe in objective truth (here!). I feel that when doing research :) on a character, the borderline cases are often the most interesting ones, and you want to be able to find them through the &quot;Comics featuring miss x&quot;!<br /> <br /> I came to think this through now, when I wanted to (and did) list two comics with [[Miss Lenhart]] (?) where she was drawn but not named. Any thoughts on this in general? Other case studies? –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :My take has always been that [[Cueball]], for example, has not been a specific character. There is not ''a'' cueball, per se, distinct from any other cueball... indeed, there are several comics with several cueballs in-frame, and that is the point. I see the cueball character as a wildcard character (pun intended) ready to stand in for anybody (and ''not'' necessarily just Randall; I think those readers who suggest &quot;this ''is'' Randall&quot; are missing the point; he's way more META than that...) [[Megan]], while slightly less generic, still remains the female wild-card significant-other, while Curls seems to be a not-significant-other female used to illustrate a relationship that is transient. Other characters come and go, and when it's important to visually distinguish them from others in the frame, they're given additional characteristics, to wit [[Hairy]], [[Ponytail]], etc.<br /> :Unfortunately, that viewpoint is not commonly held, so I daresay I'm in the minority here.<br /> :-- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Note at the top, about the server error ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread was moved to [[MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice]]''<br /> <br /> == Category: Flowcharts ==<br /> <br /> Hello, the line &quot;Randall has made use of flowcharts before.&quot; in today's comic explanation made me want a [[:Category:Flowcharts|flowcharts category]] to navigate into...<br /> <br /> As it didn't exist, I proceeded to create it, but as the log says, [[User:lcarsos|lcarsos]] deleted such a category in November, saying ''&quot;Insufficient differentiation from Category:Comics with charts, diluting the depth of comics tagged charts&quot;''.<br /> <br /> I don't agree with that, and I think we could profit from such a subcategory. I found those pages fitting it:<br /> * [[94: Profile Creation Flowchart]]<br /> * [[210: 90's Flowchart]]<br /> * [[488: Steal This Comic]]<br /> * [[627: Tech Support Cheat Sheet]]<br /> * [[844: Good Code]]<br /> * [[851: Na]]<br /> * [[854: Learning to Cook]]<br /> * [[1195: Flowchart]]<br /> <br /> So? - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 10:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Weell if you're willing to take charge of the category and personally make sure it's added to all relevant comic explanations, go ahead. The usual objection to making new categories is that we admins can't remember all the categories when we're reviewing new explanations, but it's K if you're willing to take up that responsibility yourself. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> :: OK. I did it without waiting for further replies, because I think it will be especially profitable today (to viewers).<br /> :: It doesn't seem a big issue to me if the correct category is not added when a new explanation is made: a passing editor will do it later on... But hey, I'm OK with taking special care of adding pages to this category.<br /> :: [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 12:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: I just want to add that Cos' view is indeed the appropriate way to work in wikis: there is no concept of a single author for a page, category, or piece of text, and the workload is meant to be distributed among several editors: it is not necessary that any single editor remembers all existing categories, or knows the wiki markup by heart, or knows how to work with all the features of mediawiki, etc. The reason why wikis can be edited by anyone is precisely a recognition that there *will* be errors and any page can be improved somehow. That reasoning against categories should, IMO, be abandoned, or at most only kept as the opinion of some editors. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 22:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Isnt there a page which lists all the categories? If not, there should be one, and it should be accessible to all. Such a page could be useful when trying to quick-add categories to comics. [[Special:Contributions/117.194.83.155|117.194.83.155]] 13:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, there is. [[Special:Categories]]. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:07, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> This does move it to above the line, and the rule stops early. Undo my change if that's more bothering than when the TOC is displayed as &quot;add a comment!Discussion&quot;... <br /> <br /> I don't know how to automatically treat level 2 headers as level 3. That may be why Discussion was a level 1 heading earlier.<br /> [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Actually I now noticed there was a short edit war at {{tl|comic discussion}} over whether it should be a level 1 heading, just for this reason. [[User:Waldir]] seems to have conceeded... [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:25, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: No edit war, hence no (intentional) concession. I reverted a change once, and didn't notice the change being re-implemented by another user. In any case, it is irrelevant now since we actively discourage using headers in talk pages precisely so that they don't display in the TOC for the main comic page, where the discussion page is transcluded to (see the discussion [[#Section style and usage|above]]). This might not scale well for comics that generate lots of discussion. It might be worth discussing our customs (and perhaps write them down somewhere) before performing such changes. What do others think? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:49, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Time: The Table ==<br /> <br /> Right now on the page [[1190: Time]], we have a whole bunch of tables in the form image-time-hash. The tables take up heaps of vertical space and all have to be collapsed to even be remotely traversible. I propose that we aggregate all the images into one table after Time ends, like so:<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> !Image<br /> !Time<br /> |-<br /> |[[Media:time.png|00:00]]||01/00:00||[[Media:time.png|10:00]]||01/10:00||[[Media:time.png|20:00]]||01/20:00||[[Media:time.png|30:00]]||AND MOAR SAMPLE DATAS<br /> |-<br /> |[[Media:time.png|00:30]]||01/00:30||[[Media:time.png|10:30]]||01/10:30||[[Media:time.png|20:30]]||01/20:30||[[Media:time.png|30:30]]||AND MOAR SAMPLE DATAS<br /> |}<br /> <br /> The hash values aren't really a part of the comic, they're gibberish for the most part and they take up space that could be used to compact the table, as shown above. Even if we are conservative and make the table only five columns wide to account for smaller screens, we've divided scrolling time by five and eliminated much of the need for annoying collapsed tables and section headers for each day. Constructing the table shouldn't be particularly hard either, as all our current data is in nice regular tables with clear patterns that are easy enough to parse through. <br /> <br /> I'm putting this here because the organization of the frame entries would be unintuitive and difficult to change from the edit window, which would make it a poor choice when we're still expanding it and don't even know how long the comic will continue for. It's merely a space-saving trick for after we're sure that the comic is over. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 09:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh and it'd be really nice if other people could also upload images if you're awake and a new one rolls by. There's gaps in the image record every time I wake up, and I dun likey. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:34, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Good work so far; go ahead make it better! :) –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Featured Explanation, and Archival?==<br /> <br /> * Wikipedia has featured content. Now that we are close to reaching the goal of all comics explained, I think it makes more sense to have a &quot;featured explanation&quot; which would serve as a sort of a marker for a complete and good explanation. Many comics, and almost all charts are not fully explained/not a good quality explanation.<br /> <br /> * We should set up archival of discussion of the most discussed pages, like this one. Its not very pleasing to see comments from July 2012 still lying around here. It becomes hectic at some point.<br /> <br /> Just my 2 cents, feel free to discuss. Cheers,<br /> [[Special:Contributions/117.194.88.180|117.194.88.180]] 13:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We dedicate this wiki to explaining xkcd, and we do actually have a featured comic feature; it changes every week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and we usually manage to fill out the explanation for it within an hour or so of it going up. The most recent comic tends to be the one that most people visiting the wiki care about, so we give it prime space on the front page so they can find it easily. xkcd updates frequently enough that there isn't really that big of a time window for us to feature an article on our front page. Also, we're a volunteer project with quite a bit less manpower than Wikipedia.<br /> :We do need to archive talk pages though. Some of these are getting ridiculously long. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Split the list of all comics ==<br /> <br /> [[List of all comics]] is getting larger and larger, which makes it hard to read and hard to edit. How about splitting into parts, say [[List of all comics/1-1000]], [[List of all comics/1001-2000]], etc., or something to that effect? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Admin_requests 2013-05-01T17:35:56Z

<p>Waldir: The ads aren't something that wiki admins can control. Changing them requires server access, so Jeff is the person you ought to talk to. In any case, related discussion is occurring here. ([[User:Yair rand/addcommen...</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Adverts ==<br /> <br /> Looks like someone's discovered us! There are several accounts with spam userpages already: [[User:VereGrube253]], [[User:Sharon0H]], [[User:RAndra]], [[User:KathrynMwy]], [[User:Ffmdcyz]], and [[User:Pimarsolek23]]. What should we do with these? I'm all for deleting the advert and blocking the user, but I didn't want to do that without input (esp. from [[User:Jeff|Jeff]]). --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:59, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :*Cold shoulder for spam. Jeff should give the final say, but I'll up-vote shutting down spam users accounts... and a policy statement that lays out the rules, such as user pages are for contributing to xkcd-related discussions. Off-topic subject matter must find a home elsewhere. In the meantime, perhaps roll back the spam, post an announcement on the problem user page, and mark protected. Thoughts? -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 03:14, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :* Delete and block. And some plugin (or whatever) to keep them from signing up. Spambots don't read announcements. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 03:31, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :* Delete the userpages (and spam edits) and block indefinitely. A vandal might be someone having fun but who can be converted into an editor if nurtured, but a spammer definitely has an agenda and we should have no hopes for them. Also we might need some [[mw:Extension:ConfirmEdit|captcha extension]] (I'd suggest using the ReCaptcha option). --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:53, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :* Delete and block. Spam cannot be tolerated. Captcha sounds good. Are they edits to actual comic pages or new pages? If someone wants to actually advertise, they can come to me. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :*: From my experience taming spam in small wikis in the wild, spammers tend to use all sorts of techniques, from using different accounts to upload images (since there are more restrictions on that than on editing pages), to creating the pages in their user namespace and then moving them elsewhere, to creating the spam pages directly, to adding/replacing links in existing pages... --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:51, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :*::Do you know if there are any good anti-spam bots out there that could be persuaded to add this wiki to the list they patrol? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:20, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :*:::I don't know much about anti-spam bots, but if they work roughly as I think, I'd prefer us to try out extensions + user intervention before resorting to bots. I'd like to know generally how efficient automatic (trigger-like, rather than continuously or regularly running bots) can get at preventing spam. We should start with captchas. Then, if needed, we can add more: [http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/support/installation/mediawiki/ Bad Behavior] looks interesting, and we can always restrict editing to registered accounts, coupled with [[mw:Manual:$wgEmailConfirmToEdit|email confirmation]] or [[mw:Extension:OpenID|OpenID]]. But these steps should be taken one by one, as needed, so we can measure what works and what doesn't. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:15, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :*:::: Is this spam? [[User:BoyceX9]] --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :*::::: Yes, so far they've been following the same pattern. Introducing themselves (with a completely different name from the account name), praise the wiki, say they wanna help... then ramble about &quot;them&quot; and &quot;their&quot; work, culminating with one or more links to commercial, shady-looking sites. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :*::::: {{done}} Ok, ReCaptcha is enabled. I believe I set it for all non-bots, non-admins on 'addurl', 'createaccount' or 'badlogon'. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :*Can the extension be configured so it will only be applied to &quot;new&quot; users or accounts with an edit count of less than, say, 5? While I'd understand a captcha on the first few edits, after that, it gets annoying quickly, particularly when you get captcha like [http://i.imgur.com/53wPN.jpg this]. {{User:Omega/sig}} 09:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :*:I tend to agree. I've been an editor in several small wikis where spam also needs to be kept under control, and never &quot;upgrading&quot; past the captcha level does get annoying after a while. I suggest the captcha to be disabled for autoconfirmed users, and users who have a confirmed email ([[mw:Extension:ConfirmEdit#Configuration]] for details). Autoconfirmed status depends on a user performing a given number of edits, '''and''' having an account older than X days. Both are zero by default; I suggest setting them to 5 edits and 3 days (around 250 000 seconds). [[mw:Manual:Autoconfirmed users|Here's how to do it]]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes. I'll edit it. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Seems like editing is disabled for anonymous editors. I think that keeps away a lot of drive-by editors who could be enticed to later create an account, while spammers have no problems creating accounts, as we've seen. Therefore, this restriction does more harm than good, IMO. if it makes the idea any more bearable, Captcha could be enabled for all edits by anonymous editors, even if they don't add links. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::: Ok - anon edits has been enabled. I changed captcha so that all registered users don't get it on edits. Hopefully that makes it easier on everyone. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 02:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is there a procedure for alerting admins of spam accounts? I've seen them slammed down quick enough, but if there's anything I can do to help? [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 21:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Add {{tl|Spam}} to the top of the page. {{User:Omega/sig}} 22:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Let Me Know ==<br /> Admins - Please let me know if any of the changes that you request aren't done correctly or if something needs to be changed back. Obviously, this is my first wiki hosting experience and I'm learning as I go along. I couldn't do it without you all and it is already far beyond my wildest dreams. Keep it up! --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Just a quick nod of appreciation for all your efforts! -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Same here. No matter how much I like to praise the merits of MediaWiki, setting it up for many common needs is undeniably still very user-unfriendly. I'm glad we're all supporting each other around here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::Very nice. :-) --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Edit this explanation&quot; link on main page ==<br /> On the main page, there's a link to &quot;edit this explanation&quot;. However, it's hard coded to point towards comic 1091, not the most recent comic, as the template does. Instead, that link should be a part of the template, so it can point to whichever comic the template is displaying (the latest). Of course, an admin would be required to do this, as the main page is off limits to other editors. {{User:Omega/sig}} 09:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, it needs to be fixed. However, an edit link has to point to the actual page, not the redirect (the number), so we first need a way to automatically update the title of the last comic. [[User:TheHYPO]] suggested a template listing all comic titles and corresponding numbers, but that would still need to be updated manually whenever a new comic is added. I'm not sure there's a good solution for that. Perhaps that link could ''say'' &quot;edit&quot;, but simply point to the comic page where editors would have to click the edit tab. Does that sound ok? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I agree with the above suggestion to have it link to the comic page. I find myself trying to click the comic name/title on the main page and expecting it to go to the wiki page for the comic instead of to xckd.com. This would provide at least one way to go to the comic page. Plus, some people may want to comment instead of edit the description. That said, we might want to consider renaming it to something else, like &quot;Go to this comic&quot; but more witty.--[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 15:26, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Ok, temporarily changed to a plain (non-edit) link. Awaiting wittyness for definitive deploy :P --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Thus, the temporary becomes permanent. Such is life. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 13:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incorrect redirect ==<br /> <br /> Either I, or whoever created the page (If it's me, I sincerely apologize) have created a [[1024: Never]] page, which is wrong. I've moved it to [[1042: Never]], but there's still a redirect in place. Can someone, or if you'll tell me how I'll do it, delete that redirect page? I hope this is the right space to be posting this. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 03:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : {{done}} :) Also, I moved the thread to the appropriate discussion page (Admin requests) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 09:35, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main page: Error in counter ==<br /> <br /> I noticed the counter for the number of missing comics on the [[Main Page]] was off. Looking into it, the equation is missing a parenthesis. It currently says &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#expr:{{LATESTCOMIC}}-{{PAGESINCAT:Comics}}-3}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;, but should correctly be &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{#expr:{{LATESTCOMIC}}-({{PAGESINCAT:Comics}}-3)}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. The reason for this is that &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;{{PAGESINCAT:Comics}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; will return 3 higher than the actual pages, as it counts subcategory. Thus why we're subtracting three. However, the missing parenthesis make it so we're subtracting (from the latest comic), the number of pages '''including''' those three pages, then subtracting those three pages again, thus making it 6 off. The parenthesis make it so we're subtracting the pages in the category without those three subcategories. If that doesn't make sense, just grab a calculator and subtract the latest comic from the number of comics the main page says we'll have, and you'll see it comes up six short. {{User:Omega/sig}} 08:44, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Good catch! I'll fix that :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> ::Actually you could also remove one from the current computed total, since there's no comic 404 (unless you imagine a page explaining the joke about that). - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I was in fact planning on adding a [[404: Not Found]] page with just such an explanation.<br /> ::::I have added a [[404]] page. Since the comic is non-existent, it isn't titled &quot;Not Found&quot;, so I decided against creating a [[404: Not Found]] page, or a [[Not Found]] redirect. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 18:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::Actually, if you view the source of {{xkcd|404}} it *clearly* states: &quot;&lt;title&gt;404 - Not Found&lt;/title&gt;&quot; :) I also added some more color to the [[404]] page (including a date and title). [[403]] was posted on March 31 and [[405]] was posted on April 2, so 404 would have been April 1, although really April 2 in keeping with the M/W/F posting schedule. Squeezing it in-between was an even better joke.--[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 19:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::Perfect, so nothing to change in the counter. &lt;small&gt;(how on Earth did he manage to get that 404 fall on April Fool's day...?)&lt;/small&gt; - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 19:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::He didn't. By his standard M/W/F posting order, comic 404 should have been posted on 4/2/2008. He posted 405 on that date instead. There isn't a 404 page on xkcd.com. The HTML title element isn't from a special page he created for the comic. The page you get for the 404 page is the custom 404 error page for the xkcd.com site. Check out [http://xkcd.com/jlafkfsdljk], you'll get exactly the same page. In fact, if you check out [http://xkcd.com/404] and look at the actual http status code returned, it's 404, not 200 as you'll see for other pages with actual comics. It's not an actual April Fools comic, it's just plain missing. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Ah, but it is. Granted, he did ''skip'' the number 404, but not by accident, and ''that'' is the joke. Gotta love Randall: he's so meta ! -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC) <br /> ::::::::I agree it's a joke, and intentional. However, I think it's pure coincidence that it fell around April 1st. I think Randall would have done the same 404 joke even if it had fallen on June 31st instead. The joke itself is rather subtle, since people just looking at the site wouldn't see it, and people following the RSS feed wouldn't have seen it. The comic numbers don't appear on the pages themselves, just in the URL. The only people who will see it are people who are obsessive about looking at the comic numbers. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 14:55, 23 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Well, I still like the April 1 explanation better... :) The whole &quot;Posting comic #404 on Tuesday April 1 and making it look exactly like a regular xkcd '404' page&quot; makes a much better story... Much better than &quot;He accidentally skipped #404 and it just happened to have been around April 1, boy that could have been a good comic opportunity, too bad he was just clumsy and didn't realize the potential inside jokes the techies would have read into it...&quot; --[[User:Bpothier|B. P.]] ([[User talk:Bpothier|talk]]) 20:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::The explanation above holds true: Randall went straight to 405 on his regular schedule, and {{xkcd|404}} really does return an HTTP 404 result code. But that technical explanation aside, there is no doubt that Randall deliberately chose to do so, so xkcd 404 ''is'' an AFD joke, even if he never put (virtual) pen to paper to do so. As far as comic scheduling goes, you might say we got a freebie. BTW, there have been other instances of Randall modifying his schedule, the {{xkcd|961|tribute}} to Steve Jobs being another example IIRC, so the MWF rule, while fairly stable, is not inviolate -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What ==<br /> <br /> Any reason the Main Page was moved to explain xkcd from main page? I moved it back.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Any reason the templates aren't working? &lt;br&gt;<br /> WTF? &lt;br&gt;<br /> --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 02:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Something seems to have gone seriously wrong? Earlier, I was redirected to a non-existent version of a subpage of an old blog-style explanation. And now I'm getting &quot;500 Internal Server Error&quot; warnings when I try to use [[Special:RecentChanges]] to see what's happened lately. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, for one of the problems, something seems to be forcing template titles to begin with a lowercase letter? Which is weird, because '''''all''''' pages, including templates, begin with a capital letter. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:18, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::Here's what broke the templates: the change requested at [[User talk:Jeff#wgCapitalLinks]]. When we link templates, we've been using lowercase letters in the template links, relying on the software to be smart enough to know we meant the capital version. So {{Tl|xkcd}} and {{Tl|Xkcd}} would refer to the same template. The change to wgCapitalLinks allowed page names to begin with small letters, but at the same time made the software think that {{Tl|xkcd}} and {{Tl|Xkcd}} were different pages. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hi guys, sorry about that. ''Mea culpa''.<br /> <br /> The main page was moved because then people reaching the wiki would see as first header the actual name of the wiki, rather than the generic mediawiki &quot;Main Page&quot;. I assumed it would be an uncontroversial move, mut apparently I misjudged that.<br /> <br /> As for the templates, it is only one instance of broken links due to the change to make links case-sensitive. This is mostly visible for templates because due to their very nature, they're used in many pages. We just need to move them to the lowercase titles (or create redirects from those, depending on which version is preferable as canonical; for instance, I moved {{tl|Xkcd}} to {{tl|xkcd}}, but {{tl|Yesno}} to {{tl|YesNo}}). The links couldn't be fixed prior to the configuration change because the software would point us to the capitalized version whenever we tried to access the lowercase version; a move wouldn't work as the target would be assumed as the same page.<br /> <br /> I have no idea what broke [[Special:RecentChanges]]. Perhaps it was unrelated, or perhaps it was a hiccup as the software regenerated all internal links? I have no idea. It seems to be working now, anyway.<br /> <br /> Again, sorry for the confusion. I hope you'll all understand it was a necessary hurdle to get over if we want to be accurate about capitalization issues ([[Xkcd]] vs. [[xkcd]], [[S/keyboard/leopard/]] vs. [[s/keyboard/leopard/]], etc.) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 08:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::For the love of god, can we please undo this change? I'm completely unconvinced that case-sensitive first characters is beneficial for the wiki. There's a good reason that the default is case-insensitive (bearing in mind this only applies to the first character). If the concern is &quot;automatic capitalization&quot;, there's ways to override the page title, where needed (for example, Wikipedia's page on {{w|iPods}}). However, case insensitive pages means linking and creating pages is now more complex. For what? For a handful of pages that need the first letter to be lowercase? The only pages I can think of that need that is the page on xkcd itself. Templates don't matter much, but if we're counting them, then there's the {{tl|xkcd}} template (note: would need to be surrounded by noinclude tags, to prevent renaming every page the template is used on).<br /> <br /> ::::Now, why am I so venomously opposed to this change? Look at it this way: [[Explain xkcd]] (the &quot;main page&quot;) and [[explain xkcd]] are entirely different links. At the time of writing, the all-lowercase alternative, which normally should work fine, does not. Why is that? because of this change. I'm sure that ten seconds after the first person reads this, we'll have a redirect there (I'm not going to, as if the change is reversed, god knows what will happen when two different pages are suddenly considered the same page), but that's not the point. The point is the sheer difficulty this change just created. If a page author forgets to create a redirect to a properly cased page (in the vast majority of cases, the page should be in sentence case. &quot;xkcd&quot; is one of the very few possible exceptions, and Randall himself stated that &quot;Xkcd&quot; is fine). Anyway, back to our author with his newly created page. We'll assume he's familiar with Mediawiki, and links to his page from another page. But he links in lowercase, as most links will likely be (the page on wikipedia is technically &quot;Cabbage&quot;, but unless the word is at the beginning of a sentence, we'll be typing &quot;cabbage&quot;). Our page author, however, is confused. His link is coming up as a red link, even after triple and quadruple checking his spelling. Raaaage quit. And all for what? So one or two pages can be lowercase?<br /> <br /> ::::There's a very good reason why Wikipedia keeps this default on. In fact, multiple reasons. User friendly, practical, low maintenance... And the reasons to support case sensitivity? Pretty much nothing, since rare instances where a lowercase first letter is required can override the title with magic words. I know we aren't Wikipedia; we don't have their rules for consensus (though I wish we did), nor do we have their community, their careful array of checks and balances, and distributed rights. Yet, I think that such an incredibly controversial change without any consensus and without any real benefit doesn't suit this wiki at all. I ask that we undo the change or at least discuss it in depth. Come on, folks, this is rewriting an entire language because you couldn't spell one word. {{User:Omega/sig}} 09:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::And now the main page has been renamed to &quot;explain xkcd&quot; (in all lowercase). The project namespace is also in lowercase. Yet, we still use the traditional &quot;File&quot; and &quot;Template&quot; namespaces (I don't think you could change their casing without editing Mediawiki's PHP files, though). In other words, moooore inconsistency. Can we puleeeeze sit down and discuss these changes? Can anyone name '''one''' reason to use case insensitive titling versus page title overrides on the one or two pages that actually need them? It's generally accepted that articles in media use &quot;sentence case&quot; (eg, &quot;Case Sensitivity&quot;, not &quot;case sensitivity&quot;). Also, to be specific, this change only applies to the first letter of page titles, which are normally case insensitive (to ensure ease of use). Other letters are by default case sensitive (eg, &quot;Hello world&quot; is always a different article than &quot;Hello World&quot;). This is actually partially a technical issue (most programming languages, PHP included, are case sensitive). {{User:Omega/sig}} 09:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I think you're seeing this move as way more impacting than it is. Note that while on Wikipedia most of the pages cover topics that are objects or concepts for which it makes sense to write them down in lowercase, here the vast majority of pages are comic explanations, whose titles are capitalized (sentence case) anyway. Even several of the non-comic pages are always capitalized (the characters, Randall...), with the exception perhaps of topics ([[My Hobby]], [[Velociraptors]]...) and a handful of others that might not be occurring to me right now. In total, these should be a fraction of the comic pages, and redirects can easily be created for them. Files are lowercase in virtually all original filenames from xkcd.com, and currently the occurrences of uppercase in their first letter derive primarily from copying the title from the file page. Now, files are lowercased so copying will pose no problems. Templates have also been moved to the lowercase versions, with redirects when appropriate, since most people use them in lowercase anyway.<br /> :::::: As for the name of the wiki and project namespace, that's a completely different issue, and it was agreed on via discussion, and {{diff|4866|endorsed}} by Jeff, to be &quot;explain xkcd&quot; (all lowercase). This happened several days ago. Then, yesterday I moved the main page to that title, because I assumed it would be uncontroversial, as that is the wiki's name, and we don't have a header or anything, so it would serve as the primary heading of the main page, rather than mediawiki's generic &quot;Main Page&quot;. Apparently that reasoning didn't resonate with everyone, so I'll move it back to &quot;Main Page&quot; for now. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::But you still haven't explained a single reason why this change was beneficial. The handful of pages that &quot;needed&quot; a lowercase first letter could easily have slapped a magic word onto the page to override the title. I'm still only thinking of two pages that would ever need a lowercase first letter ([[xkcd]] and [[Template:xkcd]]). We effectively just nuked every page to make those two pages a little bit more... fluid? What? And for the name of the main page, I do support calling it &quot;Explain xkcd&quot;, although I don't see what it has to do with the whole uppercase versus lowercase discussion. The casing is inconsistent everywhere I see it. The explainxkcd website has a header in all lowercase, but then references the site in several other places as &quot;Explain XKCD&quot;. At any rate, I fail to see the problem with &quot;Explain xkcd&quot;, as sentence case has historically been used for page titles, particularly on Wikipedia. It's also much easier to borrow from Wikipedia's policies when naming and styling pages, as the vast majority of xkcd fans are likely also Wikipedia supporters. Why change what's not broke?<br /> <br /> :::::::I'm just rather annoyed that one or two people are making every major decision without taking the time to discuss the pros and cons. Can we please sit down and discuss changes with consensus before we implement them, rather than having to argue about them after it's already done? {{User:Omega/sig}} 20:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I'm with you Omega on the discussion factor. Lets do that going forward to make sure we discuss any changes before they go in. Is the lowercase v uppercase still an issue now? Will reverting it break things all over again? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wrong File Names ==<br /> <br /> Comic [[1077: Home Organization]] has a bad image link. It's pointing to [[:File:Home organization.png]] (lowercase 'O' in organization) which is a redirect to the correct page at [[:File:Home Organization.png]] (Capital 'O'). AFAIK files are supposed to be first letter capitalized, the rest lowercase. Should the image be moved to the lowercase page? Please advise as to how to continue. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 23:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :I found another one. [[1076: Groundhog Day]]. Same deal. [[:File:Groundhog day.png]] is trying to redirect to [[:File:Groundhog Day.png]] [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 23:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: {{done}}: I moved both images to the lowercase versions and edited the comic pages.<br /> :: Please use the original filename when uploading comics (i.e., lowercase and underscores), even though MediaWiki replaces underscores with spaces. Also, when creating the comic page, use the original filename, MediaWiki will again replace underscores to find the file. The advantage is that we will be able to replace the images with direct links to xkcd.com if this should become necessary or desired. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 14:22, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Some clever person has gone and tagged a bunch of pages that have this issue [[:Category:Pages with broken file links]] [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: {{done}} --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 20:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: I swear I've fixed this page before, but [[1054: The Bacon]] the image is now broken using the new style. [[:File:The bacon.png]] needs to be moved and cajoled to work right. Also, there's a few redirects that should be deleted [[The bacon]] and [[1054: The bacon]]. Thank you for your work, you are amazing. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:42, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::: Again, {{done}}. I don't think the redirects will hurt someone, so I keep them in place. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 06:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[MediaWiki:Talkpagetext]] ==<br /> <br /> I would advise that an admin edit the [[MediaWiki:Talkpagetext]] message with something like [[wikipedia:MediaWiki:Talkpagetext]], or more precisely like the message in bold on [[Talk:1098: Star Ratings|several]] [[Talk:1097: A Hypochondriac's Nightmare|talk]] [[Talk:1095: Crazy Straws|pages]], about signing comments.<br /> <br /> That would avoid having to put it on top of every talk page, while also avoiding a not-so-nice message for somebody who came there just to read the comments.<br /> <br /> [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 16:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : So? Up? This does not seem a complex or controversial change to me...<br /> : There, I can make it even more simple for the &lt;s&gt;lazy&lt;/s&gt; busy admins: here is a suggestion for the content of that system message: :-)<br /> : &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;'''This is a talk page, so please add ~~~~ to the end of your comments to include your signature. Thanks!'''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;<br /> : Obviously, I would gladly do it myself if I could.<br /> : Thanks! - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> :: How's that? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::<br /> ::: :-D sorry, I {{diff|10815|can see}} that I unintentionally left a trap in my suggestion, this would have been better:<br /> ::: &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;'''This is a talk page, so please add &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/now&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;iki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; to the end of your comments to include your signature. Thanks!'''&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;<br /> ::: About your version Jeff, I'm not sure the links to Wikipedia are really useful, especially since talk pages here are not exactly like on Wikipedia: on WP their only use is to talk about the corresponding page and not its subject, here they can also serve to talk about a comic which is the subject of the corresponding page. And if you choose to keep these links, then two of them need a double &quot;wikipedia&quot; prefix (&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;).<br /> ::: But that WPlinks remarks are no big issue anyway, the current version basically does the job so thank you for that.<br /> ::: [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 17:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: I stole that right from MediaWiki... whoops. Ok, how about now? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::<br /> ::::: Looks fine for me :-) . If you want you can replace &quot;the signature button at the top of the page&quot; with [[File:Button sig.png]] (&lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[[File:Button sig.png]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;), but that's as you prefer. Thanks again! - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 18:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Page Creation Guide ==<br /> <br /> Hey folks. Is there a guide for creating new pages, now that frequent users have had a little practice and the templates seem to be settled in? If not, anyone want to volunteer to start one? I've just been copying the latest comic and erasing its content. Perhaps we can start the guide by providing that. It should also be linked from the main page in the section encouraging people to add comics. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 13:55, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * I support this. Two pointers: I have a page called [[User:Blaisepascal/newcomictemplate]] which has an empty template for a new comic, including an {{tl|Incomplete}} at the top, all the major sections (Explanation, Transcript, Trivia), and the {{tl|Comic discussion}} at the bottom. I use it to simplify getting the format right. [[User:Lcarsos|Lcarsos]] has also written a Ruby script which will, when given a comic number, will fill in the newcomictemplate with all the information which can be grabbed from xkcd.com (the number, name, date, image name, title text, and Template), as well as the redirect string. All that needs to be done before copy/pasting into explainxkcd is to proof-read it, add appropriate wiki links, and add an explanation. I think a guide should point out tools like this. [[User:Blaisepascal|Blaisepascal]] ([[User talk:Blaisepascal|talk]]) 14:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: A few more tips, remember that the Wiki software doesn't recognize single returns as new paragraphs, there needs to be a whole line between things you want to show up on different lines. And in transcripts, the Wiki software things anything enclosed in double brackets &amp;mdash; e.g., [&lt;nowiki /&gt;[ &amp;mdash; is ''obviously'' a link so some other page on the wiki. Most people are deciding to simply take out the second bracket.<br /> <br /> ::Also, please, please, please, please, ''please'', add links to Wikipedia. Simply encase the word in {{&lt;nowiki&gt;w|My Phrase&lt;/nowiki&gt;}} and the {{tl|w}} template will pick it up and link to that article in Wikipedia. Be sure to click the links you are creating, sometimes Wikipedia's links are awkwardly case sensitive, and conversational capitalization will take you a &quot;No page exists with this title&quot; and won't give you any hints about the page you are looking for. If this happens use {{&lt;nowiki&gt;w|Conversational Capitalization|conversational capitalization&lt;/nowiki&gt;}}. The first is the name of the article, the second is what will show up in the generated anchor tag.<br /> <br /> ::Finally, as you are going through, if you are using Jeff's explanations from the blog, please go through and edit the sentences to not include personal pronouns, e.g., &quot;I&quot;. Since anyone can edit (nearly) every article here, there is no 'I' and there is no 'we' if you are referring to anyone who's edited the article. We is referring to human beings in general on this wiki, and it would have to be a very special case to mean anything more exclusive than that. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Thanks for the tips. Exactly the kinds of things I think should be in a guide, more specific for this site than [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Tutorial|Wikipedia's Editing Tutorial]] is. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 19:48, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I've started work on exactly that document. I'm currently keeping it at [[User:Lcarsos#Formatting]]. If people think this should be moved out to a real page I'll do that. Just tell me what people think a good name would be. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Please ban [[User:Jjhuddle]] ==<br /> <br /> None of the changes that Jjhuddle have made have been for the better. He has reorganized talk pages to fit his own formatting guides, removed perfectly good paragraphs from explanations, refuses to take constructive criticism, refuses to link to his user account in his signature, more often than not forgets to sign his posts, and is being a minor menace. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 20:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> : {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:22, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :<br /> :: I might step into what is not my business here, but I can't help thinking that was a bit harsh.<br /> :: Looking into [[Special:Contributions/Jjhuddle|his contributions]], I see several changes that were perfectly constructive, maybe awkward sometimes, but usually in good faith &quot;for the better&quot;. Sure there were mistakes as well, such as discussion reformatting or weird signatures, but (in my opinion) that's really no big issue, and on the whole asking here to ban him without first, for instance, warning him about that, seems pretty rude to me. &lt;small&gt;Also lcarsos, where on earth did he ''remove perfectly good paragraphs from explanations''?? the closest that I found was {{diff|10721|this}}, and frankly that can arguably be interpreted as an improvement (actually I would have done it as well).&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :: So I don't know, maybe it's better to act quickly without thinking too much, in order to avoid lengthy, time-consuming debates; that was just my 2¢, do whatever you want with it.<br /> :: [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 17:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::I assumed that lcarsos has dealt with JJ Huddle over these issues and had finally brought it to us, but I'll leave that for lcarsos to answer. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:50, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Let me give you a kind of chronology.<br /> <br /> ::::His {{diff|9169|first attempt}} at creating a page was actually quite good, his explanation needed a little work to explain things that people might miss, rather than tell what is on the page, but that is a common mistake in enough English classrooms, that I'll write that off entirely. His {{diff|9948|second page}}, made 5 days later, was a step backward.<br /> ::::*Separate Title Text section despite using the {{tl|comic}} header<br /> ::::*Discussion section despite using the {{tl|comic discussion}} template on his first attempt.<br /> ::::*Explanation was better used as a transcript than as an explanation, when there was a perfectly good explanation that existed on the blog, all he had to do was copy and paste.<br /> <br /> ::::The last of which is what spawned my first post on his talk page. A rather long &quot;welcome to the community post&quot; offering some helpful (that's me talking about myself, somebody double-check me [[User talk:Jjhuddle#Welcome, and a little constructive criticism]]) tips. That was a week ago.<br /> <br /> ::::After that he fell off my radar until yesterday, I was doing some minor clean up when I stumbled on a talk page that had been completely revised to use bullet points. I delved into its history and found that it was him at fault. That spawned the second of my entries on his [[User talk:Jjhuddle#Do Not Change talk pages]] which was, admittedly, tersely worded. But I did note, that he had not posted a response to my first post. He must have seen the banner that one of the pages on his watchlist (His talk page) had been changed. But didn't post a response, he's been chatty enough elsewhere on the wiki (creating {{diff|10675|talk pages}} to ask where the new comic is; and {{diff|9543|inserting into}} actual pages, things that should have been in the talk page, {{diff|9491|which he did}} but was too impatient to wait for an answer), so I concluded that he wasn't going to take this seriously.<br /> <br /> ::::His changes to comic explanation pages usually replaces other words, not that they are better wordings, but that they are replacements: {{diff|5606|Michael Phelps}}, {{diff|9890|Hypochondriac's Nightmare}}, {{diff|10721|Vows}}. In both {{diff|9543|Clinically Studied Ingredient}} and Nightmare, he writes &quot;It is not known...&quot; which suggests that he should instead open it up to the community in the Talk page until it is decided, and an edit can then be made, once it is known. TheHYPO dealt with it in short order in Ingredient.<br /> <br /> ::::I had refreshed the Vows page when I noticed the talk section was done in bullet points rather than indentations, and the first line of the article (which had survived ''many'' edits) was gone. After checking the version history and seeing that Jjhuddle had been on both pages, I checked his contributions more thoroughly. I found that every talk page he had been on after 8 August he would go back and revise it to use bullets, despite the indentations working perfectly well to illustrate the threaded conversations (and in at least one case breaking them: {{diff|9165|Crazy Straws Talk}}, note the response to Erenan's post). Including the {{diff|10183|Star Ratings Talk Page}} where he literally added the &quot;please sign your comment&quot; banner and revised it to bullets, but never left a comment, and didn't add even meager signatures.<br /> <br /> ::::Then I undid the changes to both Vows pages. Having now looked through most of his edits, I felt that it was time to put a stop to his shenanigans. That is when I created the post on this page.<br /> <br /> ::::Was it harsh? Yes. All banning is. Was it rude? Probably. But so has his conduct been to the community. His kind of loose-cannon enthusiasm hasn't hardly benefited this wiki, and I bet that if he was allowed to continue, the majority of his edits would be undone. In a philosophy class I took, we had a debate about at what point a laundry list of grievances becomes actionable. We never did nail down an exact number (is that even possible in a philosophy class?) but we decided that everyone has their own instinctual limit, and should act on it rather than wait.<br /> <br /> ::::Cos, I suppose I should have said &quot;removes/replaces content without adding anything more&quot; instead of &quot;removed perfectly good paragraphs&quot;, as it allows what I've discussed to be included in that umbrella.<br /> <br /> ::::[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Please block 94.23.1.28 ==<br /> <br /> Spam bot replaced [[Template:W]] with spam content. Please block IP.<br /> <br /> On a related note. what is the best way to signal to admins/moderators an IP address that needs to be blocked for destructive/spam edits? [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==(Temporarily) Turn Off Anonymous Edits (please)==<br /> We've had '''50''' anonymous destructive/harmful edits since the beginning of this slew. I think because of the popularity of 1110 the site is getting more attention than usual. Maybe if anonymous edits are turned off through the weekend that might get us through the storm. Please and thank you.<br /> <br /> The full list for those that care:<br /> ;2012-09-20<br /> # {{diff|12825|Template:W}}<br /> # {{diff|12878|User:Joe Green}}<br /> # {{diff|12835|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12836|explain xkcd:Community portal/Miscellaneous}}<br /> # {{diff|12847|Talk:626: Newton and Leibniz}}<br /> # {{diff|12838|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> # {{diff|12873|Category talk:Comics from June}}<br /> # {{diff|12844|User:Lcarsos}}<br /> # {{diff|12862|Talk:1038}}<br /> # {{diff|12850|explain xkcd:Community portal/Technical}}<br /> # {{diff|12857|User:Lcarsos}}<br /> # {{diff|12870|User:Enginesoul}}<br /> # {{diff|12860|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> # {{diff|12863|User talk:Medotcom}}<br /> # {{diff|12864|User:Waldir}}<br /> # {{diff|12871|User:Jeremyp}}<br /> # {{diff|12884|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12888|User:BKA}}<br /> # {{diff|12893|Talk:1097: A Hypochondriac's Nightmare}}<br /> # {{diff|12901|User talk:81.3.214.199}}<br /> # {{diff|12902|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12911|explain xkcd:Community portal/Miscellaneous}}<br /> # {{diff|12950|User:Klamann}}<br /> # {{diff|12915|User:IronyChef/TestKitchen}}<br /> # {{diff|12951|Category talk:Electric Skateboard}}<br /> # {{diff|12937|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12952|Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls}}<br /> # {{diff|12939|User:IronyChef}}<br /> # {{diff|12942|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12946|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> # {{diff|12962|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> # {{diff|12975|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12976|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> ;2012-09-21<br /> # {{diff|12982|1093: Forget}}<br /> # {{diff|12983|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> # {{diff|12984|131: Fans}}<br /> # {{diff|12985|1073: Weekend}}<br /> # {{diff|12998|Talk:1094: Interview}}<br /> # {{diff|12999|118: 50 Ways}}<br /> # {{diff|13000|explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals}}<br /> # {{diff|13002|11: Barrel - Part 2}}<br /> # {{diff|13004|User:Waldir}}<br /> # {{diff|13020|Template:google custom}}<br /> # {{diff|13027|Template:outdent}}<br /> # {{diff|13036|1: Barrel - Part 1}}<br /> # {{diff|13040|User talk:Jtorba}}<br /> # {{diff|13044|140: Delicious}}<br /> # {{diff|13050|User:Yirba}}<br /> # {{diff|13054|140: Delicious}}<br /> # {{diff|13059|1093: Forget}}<br /> <br /> --A haggard undo-er of mischief [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Sorry - just getting to this now... how does it look now? Still garbage coming in? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:25, 27 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::Just an FYI... it seems that the worst of the vandalism happened during the days when {{explain|1110}} was current, and we had a bunch of anonymous vandals, though that has declined again. My only reservation on blocking anonymous edits is that outside of this exceptional window, most anonymous edits, by far, are of the good kind. (Right now, my only grouse in the Angel of Death category is that one person who registers with a Chinese name, and puts jibberish pages with links to some Mulberry bag outlet store...) What would seem more effective is being able to block where external links go to. Linking to xkcd.com or wikipedia.org seem reasonable, but anything else should be disabled, or at least requiring an admin's approval... Thotz? In conclusion, I will say a big ''tin star'' to Lcarsos, and the whole cast of regulars, in keeping the content here free of vandalism! (I've got to get myself one of those graphics, and post it on the appropriate user pages...) -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:43, 27 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Object Cache ==<br /> <br /> Hi Admins -<br /> The reason the site was down was the Object Cache database got to be over 1 GB in size and took down access to all databases, so needless to say, this cannot happen again.<br /> I've got but $wgMainCacheType set to CACHE_NONE. Is there anywhere else I can turn off the caching to the database? [[User:Jeff|Jeff]] 12:34, 27 September 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor change to protected page ==<br /> <br /> Hi - new here... I wanted to correct the text for comic #1153 (to change 'apparent paradox' into 'paradox', since the word means 'apparent contradiction') but the page is locked (I get 'This page has been protected to prevent editing' on the Source page). Is there some magic I'm missing, or have you blocked all pages due to malicious hacking? {{unsigned|Yinna |07:09, 30 December 2012‎ (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :Hi, I don't mean to question your intelligence, but were you by chance on the main page, and not on [[1153: Proof]]? I don't see any protections on the explanation page itself, but we definitely have the main page locked down due to the number of spam bot changes we'd have to fix if it were not. The Main Page just has a view (called &quot;transclusion&quot; in wiki terminology) of the comic page, so if you were trying to edit the main page, it wouldn't have helped much because the actual text of the explanation is on the explanation page. If that's not the problem, do write back so we can get to the bottom of this. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:34, 30 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[MediaWiki:Captcha-addurl-whitelist]] ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure why I had to solve a captcha for adding an external link in [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1154:_Resolution&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=23961 this edit], but perhaps this can be fixed by adding &lt;code&gt;www\.explainxkcd\.com&lt;/code&gt; to the captcha whitelist. --[[Special:Contributions/132.230.221.144|132.230.221.144]] 10:28, 31 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> :{{done}}, thanks for reporting. Let me know if it solves the issue. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 05:15, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1153 Test] Seems to work. Thank you! --[[Special:Contributions/132.230.221.144|132.230.221.144]] 08:28, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments out of date on comic page: solution ==<br /> I've added my comments to discussion page of comic [[191]], but they don't show up on the main one. Can you guys hint on what I've done wrong? Thank you in advance. - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 16:24, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Now it's happening to [[954]] as well :( - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 16:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> : Never-mind, figured it out myself. I had to click out of date fix on the main page of the wiki, though not sure why - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 18:51, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Mediawiki caches page transclusions, which is how we get the talk page to show up on the explanation page, and the latest comic on the main page. The cache eventually refreshes itself, but, if you want it to show up right away you can do a little url hacking to add the argument &lt;tt&gt;&amp;purge=true&lt;/tt&gt; onto the page the transclusion is occurring on. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:55, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Thank you Mr. Lcarsos for such a great explanation, I will be sure to use it next time. - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 19:48, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, although adding &lt;tt&gt;&amp;purge=true&lt;/tt&gt; will likely work for other reasons (because adding &lt;tt&gt;&amp;anything&lt;/tt&gt; will avoid your own cache, let alone others) the correct thing to append is &lt;tt&gt;&amp;action=purge&lt;/tt&gt;. You know it is correct because it ''is'' removed afterwards, where as &lt;tt&gt;&amp;purge=true&lt;/tt&gt; is not. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 18:03, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Captcha help ==<br /> <br /> Hey,<br /> <br /> The page [[Special:Captcha/help]] tells people to contact an administrator if the captcha is &quot;unexpectedly preventing you from making legitimate contributions&quot;. I just recieved a captcha asking me what the first name of XKCD's writer is. Now I know that most fans should know his name by now, you really can't expect every visitor or editor to this site to remember that, and in many cases a visitor won't know that sort of information at all.<br /> <br /> I respectfully request that you arrange for that question to be removed from the list of captchas that appear for us IP users.<br /> <br /> Thank you. --[[Special:Contributions/69.119.250.251|69.119.250.251]] 00:44, 28 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Oh, sorry, I actually contacted a beauraucrat when you posted your first message on my talk page, but I forgot to respond to you. That question *should* be pulled now. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 12:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Okay, thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/69.119.250.251|69.119.250.251]] 13:44, 28 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Scareware ads ==<br /> <br /> I don't know how much control you have over the ads that appear on this site, but ads for companies that push &quot;scareware&quot; (blinking &quot;Spyware on your system! Spyware on your system!) should be rejected if possible. The programs these companies try to scare you into downloading and installing are typically some kind of malware, and usually you have to pay for them, adding insult to injury (or is it injury to insult?) --[[User:RenniePet|RenniePet]] ([[User talk:RenniePet|talk]]) 01:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The ads aren't something that wiki admins can control. Changing them requires server access, so Jeff is the person you ought to talk to. In any case, related discussion is occurring [[Talk:Main Page#sidebar ads?|here]]. [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:comic 2013-05-01T17:31:59Z

<p>Waldir: the underscores are intentional, as they mimic the original filenames from xkcd.com</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;includeonly&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;table class=&quot;{{{bodyclass|}}}&quot; cellspacing=&quot;5&quot;<br /> style=&quot;background-color: #FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; color: black; font-size: 88%; line-height: 1.5em;<br /> margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em 1em; padding: 0.2em; text-align: center; width:98%; {{{bodystyle|}}}&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### Navigation bar (previous, next...) ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: center; margin-bottom: 10px;&quot; class=&quot;no-link-underline&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### If there is an article for the comic prior to this one, create a &quot;prev&quot; ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;{{#ifexist:{{#expr:{{{number}}} - 1}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;|&lt;li style=&quot;background-color: #6E7B91;<br /> border: 1.5px solid #333333; border-radius: 3px 3px 3px 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 5px 0 gray;<br /> display: inline; font-size: 16px; font-variant: small-caps; font-weight: 600;<br /> margin: 0 4px; padding: 1.5px 12px;&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;[[{{#expr:{{{number}}} - 1}}|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #FFFFFF;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt; Prev&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;|&lt;li style=&quot;display: inline; font-size: 16px; margin: 0 4px; padding: 1.5px 12px;&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### Create a centre button with comic number, date (if exists) and link ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;background-color: #6E7B91;<br /> border: 1.5px solid #333333; border-radius: 3px 3px 3px 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 5px 0 gray;<br /> display: inline; font-size: 16px; font-variant: small-caps; font-weight: 600;<br /> margin: 0 4px; padding: 1.5px 12px;&quot;<br /> class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;[http://www.xkcd.com/{{{number}}}/ &lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #FFFFFF;&quot;&gt;Comic &amp;#35;{{{number}}} {{#if:{{{date|}}}|({{{date}}})}}&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### If there is an article for the comic following this one, create a &quot;next&quot; ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;{{#ifexist:{{#expr:{{{number}}} + 1}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;|&lt;li style=&quot;background-color: #6E7B91;<br /> border: 1.5px solid #333333; border-radius: 3px 3px 3px 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 5px 0 gray;<br /> display: inline; font-size: 16px; font-variant: small-caps; font-weight: 600;<br /> margin: 0 4px; padding: 1.5px 12px;&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;[[{{#expr:{{{number}}} + 1}}|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #FFFFFF;&quot;&gt;Next &amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;|&lt;li style=&quot;display: inline; font-size: 16px; margin: 0 4px; padding: 1.5px 12px;&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### Comic title ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;{{#if:{{{title|}}}|&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;font-size: 20px; padding-bottom:10px&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;'''{{{title}}}'''&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### Text before comic ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;{{#if:{{{before|}}}|&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;padding-bottom:10px&quot;&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;{{{before}}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### Comic image and title text ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;{{#if:{{{image|}}}|[[File:{{{image|}}}|{{{imagesize|}}}|{{{titletext|}}}]]}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;{{#if:{{{imagesize|}}}|&lt;br /&gt;[Click comic to enlarge]}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;{{#if:{{{titletext|}}}|&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;{{{captionstyle|}}}&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:grey&quot;&gt;Title text:&lt;/span&gt; {{{titletext}}}&lt;/span&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### Add categories to comic based on date field ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;{{DEFAULTSORT:&amp;nbsp;{{padleft:{{{number}}}|4}}}}&lt;!-- (default sorting key for all categories: use zero-padding to make sure #9 comes before #10, etc.)<br /> --&gt;{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:10}}||&lt;!-- (no categorization on the Template namespace)<br /> --&gt;{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|{{int:mainpage}}||&lt;!-- (no categorization when transcluded into the main page)<br /> --&gt;[[Category:Comics]]&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;{{#if:{{{date|}}}|&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;[[Category:Comics from {{#time:Y|{{{date}}}}}]]&lt;!-- (categorize by year)<br /> --&gt;[[Category:Comics from {{#time:F|{{{date}}}}}]]&lt;!-- (categorize by month)<br /> --&gt;[[Category:{{#time:l|{{{date}}}}} comics]]&lt;!-- (categorize by weekday)<br /> --&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;}}&lt;!--<br /> <br /> ### DOCUMENTATION ###<br /> <br /> --&gt;&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;<br /> This is the basic infobox-style header template used to display [[xkcd]] comics on their own pages, including the comic number (with external link to xkcd), publication date, title, comic image, and title text.<br /> <br /> == Sample ==<br /> <br /> The following is a sample usage of this template:<br /> {{comic<br /> | number = 16<br /> | date = October 4, 2005<br /> | title = Monty Python -- Enough<br /> | image = monty_python.jpg<br /> | titletext = I went to a dinner where there was a full 10 minutes of Holy Grail quotes exchanged, with no context, in lieu of conversation. It depressed me badly.<br /> }}<br /> <br /> == Usage ==<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{comic<br /> | number = <br /> | date = <br /> | title = <br /> | before =<br /> | image = <br /> | imagesize = <br /> | titletext = <br /> }}&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> === Notes ===<br /> <br /> * At least the number, title and image are required.<br /> * The date should be written in the form: January 1, 2006<br /> * The imagesize field is optional. <br /> ** The comic's '''width''' will be limited to the set size. Format must be in pixels (eg: &quot;350px&quot;)<br /> ** The comic's '''height''' may be set by adding an 'x' to the start (eg: &quot;x350px&quot;)<br /> ** Warning: If the size is larger than the image, the image will be stretched. <br /> * '''before''' is a special field for inserting text before the comic. One use is for extremely large comics (e.g. [[Umwelt]]), to skip to the explanation.<br /> <br /> The above sample is produced by the following code:<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{comic<br /> | number = 16<br /> | date = October 4, 2005<br /> | title = Monty Python -- Enough<br /> | image = monty_python.jpg<br /> | titletext = I went to a dinner where there was a full 10 minutes of Holy Grail quotes exchanged, with no context, in lieu of conversation. It depressed me badly.<br /> }}&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Category:Templates]]<br /> &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_all_comics 2013-05-01T17:28:44Z

<p>Waldir: this shouldn't be a section header</p> <hr /> <div>:''See also: [[List of unexplained comics]]''<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable sortable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |+ Comics<br /> |-<br /> !xkcd<br /> !Title<br /> !Redirects<br /> !Image<br /> !Date<br /> {{comicsrow|1206|2013-05-01|Einstein}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1205|2013-04-29|Is It Worth the Time?|is_it_worth_the_time.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1204|2013-04-26|Detail}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1203|2013-04-24|Time Machines}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1202|2013-04-22|Girls and Boys}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1201|2013-04-19|Integration by Parts}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1200|2013-04-17|Authorization}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1199|2013-04-15|Silence}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1198|2013-04-12|Geologist}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1197|2013-04-10|All Adobe Updates}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1196|2013-04-08|Subways}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1195|2013-04-05|Flowchart}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1194|2013-04-03|Stratigraphic Record}}<br /> 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<p>Waldir: Undo revision 35681 by User:Markhurd: the underscores are intentional, as they mimic the original filenames from xkcd.com</p> <hr /> <div>== See also: [[List of unexplained comics]] ==<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable sortable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |+ Comics<br /> |-<br /> !xkcd<br /> !Title<br /> !Redirects<br /> !Image<br /> !Date<br /> {{comicsrow|1206|2013-05-01|Einstein}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1205|2013-04-29|Is It Worth the Time?|is_it_worth_the_time.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1204|2013-04-26|Detail}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1203|2013-04-24|Time Machines}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1202|2013-04-22|Girls and Boys}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1201|2013-04-19|Integration by Parts}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1200|2013-04-17|Authorization}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1199|2013-04-15|Silence}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1198|2013-04-12|Geologist}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1197|2013-04-10|All Adobe Updates}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1196|2013-04-08|Subways}}<br /> {{comicsrow|1195|2013-04-05|Flowchart}}<br /> 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Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template_talk:comic_discussion 2013-05-01T16:48:35Z

<p>Waldir: Thanks. This actually had been done before. Please see this discussion and add your thoughts :) (Assisted)</p> <hr /> <div>The template eats whitespace, compare [[Talk:1101: Sketchiness]] and [[1101: Sketchiness]]. --[[User:Kronf|Kronf]] ([[User talk:Kronf|talk]]) 20:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Nope. In most cases it performs fine. Here's just a few examples:<br /> :*[[1094: Interview]] vs. [[Talk:1094: Interview]]<br /> :*[[1093: Forget]] vs. [[Talk:1093: Forget]]<br /> :*[[1092: Michael Phelps]] vs. [[Talk:1092: Michael Phelps]] (last 2 comments)<br /> :*[[1091: Curiosity]] vs. [[Talk:1091: Curiosity]] (at least the first 2 comments)<br /> :*[[1090: Formal Languages]] vs. [[Talk:1090: Formal Languages]]<br /> :*etc.<br /> :I don't know what is wrong with that talk page, but it appears to be happening only for that comic.<br /> <br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:19, 30 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New topic for testing purposes ==<br /> <br /> Just testing what the TOC looks like... [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> FYI I've mentioned my change to &quot;add a topic!&quot; [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Technical#I.27ve removed .22add a comment.21.22 from Discussion heading|here]] for a wider audience. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Switched to level-1 header ==<br /> <br /> I was just on [[1110]] and I noticed that all the talk page sections were showing up as the same level as content sections... leaving a &quot;Discussion&quot; section with nothing actually in it. While level-1 is normally reserved for article titles, it doesn't really bother people usually, and I think it's preferable to the alternative... it's also somewhat fitting, since we are transcluding another page after all. (Another option would be configuring the &quot;new section&quot; button to create a level-3 header on talk pages... if that's possible.) [[User:PinkAmpersand|PinkAmpersand]] ([[User talk:PinkAmpersand|talk]]) 14:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Thanks. This actually had been done before. Please see [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading|this discussion]] and add your thoughts :) [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Danish 2013-05-01T16:46:15Z

<p>Waldir: Undo revision 35310 by 58.96.125.176 (talk) I don't think so. Shorter hair, more neatly trimmed, and overall not Danish-like behavior at all.</p> <hr /> <div>{{Infobox character<br /> | image = Danish.png‎<br /> | caption = Danish, seen in [[1027: Pickup Artist]]<br /> | first_appearance = [[377: Journal 2]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Danish''' is a [[stick figure]] character in [[xkcd]]. She is very similar in appearance to [[Megan]], but has heavier hair. Personality-wise, she is to [[Black Hat]] as [[Megan]] is to [[Cueball]].<br /> <br /> Like most xkcd characters, her real name is unknown. The name &quot;Danish&quot; is picked from when [[Black Hat]] called her &quot;my dearest darling danish&quot;, as a term of endearment, in [[515: No One Must Know]].<br /> <br /> A girl that physically looks like Danish appeared in [[139: I Have Owned Two Electric Skateboards]], long before she was introduced in the [[:Category:Journal|Journal series]].<br /> <br /> ==Characteristics==<br /> Danish is characterized by her cynicism and devilish tricks; and physically by her hair, which is somewhat longer than [[Megan]]'s.<br /> <br /> {{navbox-characters}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Characters]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_unexplained_comics 2013-05-01T16:41:59Z

<p>Waldir: Undo revision 35682 by Markhurd (talk) the underscores are intentional, as they mimic the original filenames from xkcd.com</p> <hr /> <div>{| class=&quot;wikitable sortable plainlinks table-padding&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |+ Comics<br /> |-<br /> !xkcd<br /> !Title<br /> !Redirects<br /> !Image<br /> !Date<br /> {{comicsrow|546|2009-02-20|Music DRM}}<br /> {{comicsrow|540|2009-02-06|Base System}}<br /> {{comicsrow|536|2009-01-28|Space Elevators}}<br /> {{comicsrow|535|2009-01-26|It Might Be Cool}}<br /> {{comicsrow|533|2009-01-21|Laptop Hell}}<br /> {{comicsrow|521|2008-12-24|2008 Christmas Special}}<br /> {{comicsrow|520|2008-12-22|Cuttlefish}}<br /> {{comicsrow|518|2008-12-17|Flow Charts}}<br /> {{comicsrow|516|2008-12-12|Wood Chips}}<br /> {{comicsrow|513|2008-12-05|Friends}}<br /> {{comicsrow|511|2008-12-01|Sleet}}<br /> {{comicsrow|509|2008-11-26|Induced Current}}<br /> {{comicsrow|504|2008-11-14|Legal Hacks}}<br /> {{comicsrow|500|2008-11-05|Election}}<br /> {{comicsrow|493|2008-10-24|Actuarial}}<br /> {{comicsrow|489|2008-10-15|Going West}}<br /> {{comicsrow|485|2008-10-06|Depth}}<br /> {{comicsrow|483|2008-10-01|Fiction Rule of Thumb}}<br /> {{comicsrow|478|2008-09-19|The Staple Madness}}<br /> {{comicsrow|476|2008-09-15|One-Sided}}<br /> {{comicsrow|474|2008-09-10|Turn-On}}<br /> {{comicsrow|473|2008-09-08|Still Raw}}<br /> {{comicsrow|472|2008-09-05|House of Pancakes}}<br /> {{comicsrow|469|2008-08-29|Improvised}}<br /> {{comicsrow|465|2008-08-20|Quantum Teleportation}}<br /> {{comicsrow|464|2008-08-18|RBA}}<br /> {{comicsrow|462|2008-08-13|Freemanic Paracusia}}<br /> {{comicsrow|460|2008-08-08|Paleontology}}<br /> {{comicsrow|458|2008-08-04|Regrets}}<br /> {{comicsrow|457|2008-08-01|Frustration}}<br /> {{comicsrow|454|2008-07-25|Rewiring}}<br /> {{comicsrow|450|2008-07-16|The Sea}}<br /> {{comicsrow|449|2008-07-14|Things Fall Apart}}<br /> {{comicsrow|447|2008-07-09|Too Old For This Shit}}<br /> {{comicsrow|446|2008-07-07|In Popular Culture}}<br /> {{comicsrow|441|2008-06-25|Babies}}<br /> {{comicsrow|439|2008-06-20|Thinking Ahead}}<br /> {{comicsrow|437|2008-06-16|SUV}}<br /> {{comicsrow|436|2008-06-13|How it Happened}}<br /> {{comicsrow|429|2008-05-28|Fantasy}}<br /> {{comicsrow|428|2008-05-26|Starwatching}}<br /> {{comicsrow|427|2008-05-23|Bad Timing}}<br /> {{comicsrow|425|2008-05-19|Fortune Cookies}}<br /> {{comicsrow|422|2008-05-12|A Better Idea}}<br /> {{comicsrow|421|2008-05-09|Making Hash Browns}}<br /> {{comicsrow|419|2008-05-05|Forks and Spoons}}<br /> {{comicsrow|417|2008-04-30|The Man Who Fell Sideways}}<br /> {{comicsrow|408|2008-04-09|Overqualified}}<br /> {{comicsrow|406|2008-04-04|Venting}}<br /> {{comicsrow|400|2008-03-24|Important Life Lesson}}<br /> {{comicsrow|392|2008-03-05|Making Rules}}<br /> {{comicsrow|382|2008-02-11|Trebuchet}}<br /> {{comicsrow|372|2008-01-18|To Be Wanted}}<br /> {{comicsrow|370|2008-01-14|Redwall}}<br /> {{comicsrow|369|2008-01-11|Dangers}}<br /> 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{{comicsrow|309|2007-08-29|Shopping Teams}}<br /> {{comicsrow|308|2007-08-27|Interesting Life}}<br /> {{comicsrow|306|2007-08-22|Orphaned Projects}}<br /> {{comicsrow|304|2007-08-17|Nighttime Stories|nighttime_stories.jpg}}<br /> {{comicsrow|301|2007-08-10|Limerick}}<br /> {{comicsrow|300|2007-08-08|Facebook}}<br /> {{comicsrow|298|2007-08-03|Tesla Coil}}<br /> {{comicsrow|296|2007-07-30|Tony Hawk}}<br /> {{comicsrow|289|2007-07-13|Alone}}<br /> {{comicsrow|284|2007-07-02|Tape Measure}}<br /> {{comicsrow|283|2007-06-29|Projection}}<br /> {{comicsrow|282|2007-06-27|Organic Fuel}}<br /> {{comicsrow|281|2007-06-25|Online Package Tracking}}<br /> {{comicsrow|280|2007-06-22|Librarians}}<br /> {{comicsrow|275|2007-06-11|Thoughts}}<br /> {{comicsrow|269|2007-05-28|TCMP}}<br /> {{comicsrow|268|2007-05-25|Choices: Part 5|choices_part_5.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|267|2007-05-24|Choices: Part 4|choices_part_4.jpg}}<br /> {{comicsrow|266|2007-05-23|Choices: Part 3|choices_part_3.jpg}}<br /> {{comicsrow|263|2007-05-18|Certainty}}<br /> {{comicsrow|256|2007-05-02|Online Communities|online_communities_small.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|235|2007-03-14|Kite|kite.jpg}}<br /> {{comicsrow|230|2007-03-02|Hamiltonian}}<br /> {{comicsrow|229|2007-02-28|Graffiti}}<br /> {{comicsrow|195|2006-12-11|Map of the Internet|map_of_the_internet.jpg}}<br /> {{comicsrow|192|2006-12-04|Working for Google}}<br /> {{comicsrow|144|2006-08-17|Parody Week: A Softer World|a_softer_robot.jpg}}<br /> {{comicsrow|143|2006-08-16|Parody Week: TFD and Natalie Dee|tfd_nataliedee.png}}<br /> {{comicsrow|141|2006-08-14|Parody Week: Achewood|achewood.png}}<br /> |}<br /> [[Category:Comics| ]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:comicsrow 2013-05-01T16:41:18Z

<p>Waldir: Undo revision 35675 by Markhurd (talk) urlencode is &quot;needed&quot; to provide the underscores, which are ignored by mediawiki software, but part of the original filenames in xkcd.com</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;Generates the rows in the [[List of all comics]] page.<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable no-xkcd-favicon&quot;<br /> ! xkcd !! Title !! Redirects !! Image !! Date&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;!--<br /> --&gt;<br /> |-<br /> | align=&quot;right&quot;| [http://xkcd.com/{{{1|1}}} xkcd.com/{{{1|1}}}]<br /> | [[{{{1|1}}}: {{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}|{{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}]]&lt;span class=&quot;create&quot;&gt; ([{{fullurl:{{{1|1}}}: {{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}|action=edit&amp;preload=Template:create}} create])&lt;/span&gt;<br /> | [[{{{1|1}}}|number]] / [[{{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}|title]] / [[Talk:{{{1|1}}}: {{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}|talk]]<br /> | [[:File:{{{4|{{lc:{{urlencode:{{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}|WIKI}}}}.png}}}|{{{4|{{lc:{{urlencode:{{{3|Barrel - Part 1}}}|WIKI}}}}.png}}}]]<br /> | {{{2|2005-09-30}}}</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page 2013-04-23T01:12:55Z

<p>Waldir: /* New here? */ use new list which is easier to traverse than the full list</p> <hr /> <div>__NOTOC__{{DISPLAYTITLE:explain xkcd}}<br /> &lt;center&gt;<br /> &lt;font size=5px&gt;''Welcome to the '''explain [[xkcd]]''' wiki!''&lt;/font&gt;<br /> <br /> We have collaboratively explained [[:Category:Comics|'''{{#expr:{{PAGESINCAT:Comics|R}}-9}}''' xkcd comics]],<br /> &lt;!-- Note: the -9 in the calculation above is to discount subcategories (there are 8 of them as of 2013-02-27),<br /> as well as [[List of all comics]], which is obviously not a comic page. --&gt;<br /> and only {{#expr:{{LATESTCOMIC}}-({{PAGESINCAT:Comics|R}}-9)}}<br /> ({{#expr: ({{LATESTCOMIC}}-({{PAGESINCAT:Comics|R}}-9)) / {{LATESTCOMIC}} * 100 round 0}}%)<br /> remain. '''[[Help:How to add a new comic explanation|Add yours]]''' while there's a chance!<br /> &lt;/center&gt;<br /> == Latest comic ==<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;border:1px solid grey; background:#eee; padding:1em;&quot;&gt;<br /> &lt;span style=&quot;float:right;&quot;&gt;[[{{LATESTCOMIC}}|'''Go to this comic explanation''']]&lt;/span&gt;<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;right&quot;&gt;<br /> {{:{{LATESTCOMIC}}}}<br /> {{#ifexist:Talk:{{LATESTCOMIC}}|&lt;h2&gt;Discussion&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> {{Talk:{{LATESTCOMIC}}}}<br /> }}&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;''Is this out of date? {{Purge|Clicking here will fix that}}.''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == New here? ==<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;float:right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em&quot;&gt;{{Special:ContributionScores/10/7/nosort,notools}}&lt;div style=&quot;font-size:0.85em; width:25em; font-style:italic&quot;&gt;[[Special:ContributionScores|Lots of people]] contribute to make this wiki a success. Many of the recent contributors, listed above, have just joined. You can do it too! Create your account [[Special:UserLogin/signup|here]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> You can read a brief introduction about this wiki at [[explain xkcd]]. Feel free to sign up for an account and contribute to the wiki! We need explanations for comics, characters, themes, memes and everything in between. If it is referenced in an [[xkcd]] web comic, it should be here.<br /> <br /> * If you're new to wikis like this, take a look at these help pages describing [[mw:Help:Navigation|how to navigate]] the wiki, and [[mw:Help:Editing pages|how to edit]] pages.<br /> <br /> * Discussion about various parts of the wiki is going on at [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]]. Share your 2¢!<br /> <br /> * [[List of all comics]] contains a complete table of all xkcd comics so far and the corresponding explanations. The missing explanations are listed [[List of unexplained comics|here]]. Feel free to help out by creating them! '''[[Help:How to add a new comic explanation|Here's how]]'''.<br /> <br /> == Rules ==<br /> Don't be a jerk. There are a lot of comics that don't have set in stone explanations; feel free to put multiple interpretations in the wiki page for each comic.<br /> <br /> If you want to talk about a specific comic, use its discussion page.<br /> <br /> Please only submit material directly related to —and helping everyone better understand— xkcd... and of course ''only'' submit material that can legally be posted (and freely edited.) Off-topic or other inappropriate content is subject to removal or modification at admin discretion, and users who repeatedly post such content will be blocked.<br /> <br /> If you need assistance from an [[explain xkcd:Administrators|admin]], post a message to the [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests|Admin requests]] board.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Root category]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1155:_Kolmogorov_Directions 2013-04-22T20:17:08Z

<p>Waldir: /* Explanation */</p> <hr /> <div>{{comic<br /> | number = 1155<br /> | date = January 2, 2013<br /> | title = Kolmogorov Directions<br /> | image = kolmogorov directions.png<br /> | titletext = People get really grumpy when they realize you're giving them directions for how to go to the store and buy a GPS.<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Explanation==<br /> {{w|Andrey Kolmogorov}} was a mathematician who worked, among other things, on defining computational complexity. Roughly speaking, the {{w|Kolmogorov complexity}} of a string (of bits, words, symbols, etc.) is the shortest description that allows an accurate reconstruction (or, in some variants, the length of the smallest program which will output the original string). Cueball's method of giving directions is very reminiscent of Kolmogorov's method of determining complexity.<br /> <br /> This is [[783|not the first time]] Cueball has had difficulties with directions.<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> :[Cueball on the phone.]<br /> :Phone: How do I get to your place from Lexington?<br /> :Cueball: Hmm...<br /> :Cueball: Ok, starting from your driveway, take every left turn that doesn't put you on a prime-numbered highway or street named for a president.<br /> :When people ask for step-by-step directions, I worry that there will be too many steps to remember, so I try to put them in minimal form.<br /> <br /> {{comic discussion}} <br /> [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]<br /> [[Category:Math]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Technical 2013-04-22T19:37:05Z

<p>Waldir: /* &quot;External&quot; hotlinking enabled to confirm issue with other car.jpg */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Changelog ==<br /> <br /> I created this page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've also created [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've changed [[MediaWiki:Helppage]] to point here. If we decide to have a local users manual or help desk, it should probably be changed. The default target was &quot;Help:Contents&quot;. This also changes where the &quot;Help&quot; link in the sidebar points, so right now we have two different sidebar links pointing to the same place. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:30, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Update: I changed it to point to [[mw:Help:Contents|Help:Contents]] at mediawiki.org. The community portal is already linked from the sidebar, it was redundant to have two links there pointing to the same page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I created [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. This is one of the &quot;did I break it&quot;-type changes, so let me know if you notice anything strange. The new pages are made up of excerpts from their Wikipedia counterparts - I copied what I thought was potentially useful and left the rest. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community Portal]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:08, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Sitenotice dismissal ==<br /> <br /> There should be a way to dismiss the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] after you've read it. I know it can be done, but don't know how, does anyone else? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :What do you think about this extension? [[mw:Extension:DismissableSiteNotice|Dismissable Site Notice]] --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes! That's probably what I'm looking for. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Hey,<br /> <br /> You might consider [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments]. It acts basically like the comment system on the blog, so you could keep everything (article, comments) in one place. It's more conducive to casual conversation than the discussion page.<br /> --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 14:07, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :That's nice, but a simpler approach could be just to transclude the talk page in the subject page itself, as is done in the Wikipedia Signpost (see [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-30/Technology report|here]] for an example). --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, that would work. The extension does have its advantages though - it's easier for new users (no markup), you can have upvotes/downvotes/&quot;comments of the day&quot;... It's a matter of preference, I suppose. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 22:27, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Discussion above moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ::: I'll take a look and see what looks best. I don't necessarily like the transcluding option. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Neither do I, to be honest. I just created {{tl|Comic discussion}} to make things a little smoother, but from my experience, there will *always* be newcomers forgetting to sign, commenters confused about the best markup for indentation/replies, comments placed at the top rather than at the bottom, new comic description pages created without that template, etc. A proper commenting solution might be the best option for this. I just mentioned the transclusion option to let people know it was a possibility. Also, in the long run we need to make sure the wiki doesn't start looking like Wikia (blergh) if we start adding too many custom extensions. But a comment extension seems to be essential if we don't want to alienate the blog's community. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Following post moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Comments]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> I'd like to suggest we add comments capabilities to the comics pages, since the discussion pages don't lend themselves to the kind of dialogue experienced on the blog. There appear to be several extensions that allow this, but I'm fairly new to the wikimedia stuff so I'm not sure how it would work, exactly. <br /> <br /> One extension available is [[mw:Extension:WordPress Comments|Extension:WordPress Comments]], which appears to enable the style of comments we are used to. Any thoughts? --[[User:DanB|DanB]] (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : We should definitely give it a try :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: That said, [http://shadowfax.org.uk/wiki/MediaWiki_Wordpress_Comment_Extension_Code its demo] looks rather simple. Extension:Comments seems to be a little more powerful (supporting replies, user pictures, voting, and maybe more). The only advantage of the Wordpress one is that it would integrate with Wordpress so extra accounts don't need to be created, but I assume most people who used to comment on the blog didn't have accounts anyway... --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Tried [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments] - but the download page for it does not exist. Anyone have any ideas why that is? Looks like an extension I'd like to try, but I can't download it! --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Robots.txt ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to set it up, but if you could edit the robots.txt file to exclude the contents of [[:Category:Noindexed pages]]? I've created a [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for people to test the unfamiliar features in, and you're probably not going to want that indexed by the search engines. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Apparently you can edit it through [[MediaWiki:Robots.txt]], but I'm not experienced enough to know what will happen if you block a url that runs through a .php page. (Perhaps nothing? Perhaps it blocks everything?) Is there any chance of moving the wiki to use /wiki/articlename urls like Wikipedia does rather than the current /wiki/index.php?title=articlename ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:43, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: /wiki/articlename would be great. Been trying to figure out how to make it work for days. Let me know if you know how. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> For URL rewritung, have a look at mediawiki.org: [[mw:Manual:Short URL|Short URL]] or for [[mw:Manual:Short URL/Apache|Apache]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:49, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Gadgets? ==<br /> <br /> Can we enable [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Gadgets]]? I'd really like to bring over [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Popups]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:HotCat]] as gadgets. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:45, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :sounds good. I'll do it later this weekend when I get back to my computer to get to the FTP access. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::That'd be great! While you're at it, [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Inputbox]] is something we may want for the future, though we don't need it now. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :: {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: For the record, what was installed was the Gadgets extension (which makes sense since Philosopher said the InputBox is not needed ATM). I had already brought the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js|HotCat gadget]], which should now be visible in the users' preferences for enabling. It was also necessary to create [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] and [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat|the description for HotCat]] so it could appear in the preferences page. However, it doesn't seem to be working... If someone can figure out what's wrong, we can fix it. One can test the script separately from the gadget system (so we can make sure it's not a gadget problem) by installing it as a user script, as I did in [[User:Waldir/common.js]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Nevermind, the guys from the #mediawiki IRC channel helped me figure out what was wrong :) it should be working now and available to all users via the gadgets tab of the preferences page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::: You rule Waldir. The InputBox extension is enabled as well for good measure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 13:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Awesome :D I assume Philosopher will have a few ideas for that (namely the {{tl|Community portal}} template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: Yeah, that's where I found out about it, at least. I may not find time to implement it right away - I'm busy in RL at the moment. In the mean time, I've imported Popups from en.wikipedia. I haven't edited out the references to Wikipedia in it b/c I'm not quite sure which of them will break things or what to replace them with. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wordpress Import ==<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Wordpress Import]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Anyone have any idea on how to import all of my posts from Wordpress into pages in the wiki? I can do it manually obviously, but I'd love to do it programatically. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> : I also realize that I won't be importing ALL the posts, just the ones that don't already have pages in the wiki already created. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] said ([[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Adding a new comic|here]]): ''When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically.'' He's speaking about importing and creating pages for all comics programmatically. I don't know if he includes the explanations from your blog posts, though...<br /> :Also, do you think it could be a good idea to import, in the comic discussions here, the comments existing in the wordpress blog for comics prior to the wiki conversion? They obviously wouldn't be associated with wiki accounts, but we could get a copy of them here (with the dates, names, and also the +/- comment appreciation maybe...). Perhaps this could be considered once the idea of wordpress comments on wiki pages (as suggested [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Technical#Comments|here]] by [[User:DanB|DanB]]) is already settled.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I don't think I can import blog posts completely automatically, but maybe write something to make it easier. I'll have to look what is possible, but I'd say the least I'll need is an account for Wordpress.<br /> :: Importing comments is similar: No promises, but probably difficult if not impossible. I'll have to see the comment system in the wiki. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Importing all previous blog comments would be awesome. We could try a test installation of wordpress and a few test pages here on the wiki (it's easy to delete them if we screw up anything). In any case, I expect some manual tweaking to be needed if we want to convert the comments already posted on-wiki into comments of the wordpress plugin. It's definitely a challenge, but after all, we're xkcd readers, by definition we enjoy a good puzzle :) (and many of us are perfectionists who won't settle for a less-than-perfect solution :D). I say let's hack the heck outta that extension! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Sorry to the perfectionists, but regarding a less-than-perfect solution, could we include a link to the blog comments as a temporary stopgap? I've been using [[1004:_Batman]] to try my hand at adding a comic, and I added a subtle link to the blog comments below the discussion box/transmutation. I'm thinking that link could be added programatically because we know how the blog structure is with year/month/date foldering. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 17:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Yes, it can be automatically generated by the {{tl|comic}} template. [[User:TheHYPO]] should be able do do it. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automation ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Automation]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> This wiki lacks automation, every time a comic comes out it needs to be submitted manually. A really simple way to do this is utilize xkcd's own JSON feed.<br /> http://xkcd.com/json.html<br /> If you download the latest comic json feed and edit it in notepad, you find all sorts of useful data like a complete transcript of the comic. --[[User:Jtorba|Jtorba]] ([[User talk:Jtorba|talk]]) 14:28, 7 August 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Outage ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Miscellaneous]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Just experienced the following navigating the site...<br /> <br /> Internal Server Error<br /> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to <br /> complete your request.<br /> <br /> Please contact the server administrator, webadmin@kundenserver.de and inform <br /> them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that <br /> may have caused the error.<br /> <br /> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.<br /> <br /> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an <br /> ErrorDocument to handle the request.<br /> <br /> Very strange, and not able to repro it, so it seems to have been transient. Just noting it here in case it happens again. I assume this is a hosting company hiccup.<br /> <br /> BTW, while researching the above, I noticed that the ''explainxkcd.com'' domain registration expires in 3 days (August 10)... hopefully the bill has been paid; I'd hate for this site to go down; Grace Period and Redemption are a PITA... -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :over the past week, I've gotten a few of those Internal Server Errors at random. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Not sure what is up with them, but I've gotten some as well. It is either me messing with the site or the server creaking under pressure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Could be the pressure... I've been getting a few randomly and the site every now and then gets quite slow. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#References]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Can we install the &quot;references&quot; plugin so that we can use &quot;ref&quot; tags and add &quot;references&quot; sections to certain comics? I grant that it won't be as useful as on wikipedia, as most references are generally just wikilinks to wikipedia anyway, but I think it could be helpful. In editing the [[Black Hat]] article, I wanted to cite references to specific comics. I had to write them into the text because references aren't installed. If References do get installed, I'd like to also suggest a template for {{tl|cite comic}} to create a quick and easy uniform reference to comics by number (or perhaps by name at the user's option?) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Do you have a link for the References plugin? I searched quickly on MediaWiki's site and didn't see anything. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php Cite extension]<br /> :::It defaults (I believe) to citing in a 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 style; there's SOMETHING That lets you change it to the more familiar wikipedia 'a' 'b' 'c' style, which is easier to read, imo. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: qv the existing &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, which generate links to a specific xkcd comic, or the corresponding explanation here, respectively; to wit, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produce {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}}, the latter could also be used this way: {{explain|29: Hitler}}. Either could also become {{xkcd|29|the first comic in which Black Hat appears}} or {{explain|29|Black Hat's first appearance}}. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mainpage category issues ==<br /> <br /> Waldir already did some repairs to the {{tl|comic}} template to keep it from sorting the [[Main Page]] into categories when the template is transcluded on the main page, but I see that other manual categorizations are still being transcluded (eg: the main page is currently categorized into [[:category:Comics featuring Cueball]]. Is there a way to include the article without including its categories at all? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :That doesn't seem to be related to the {{tl|comic}} template. Apparently the categories added manually to the comic page are getting to the main page. We can, for now, wrap them in noinclude tags. Maybe later we should create a {{tl|category}} template that does that automatically. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::I noted in that you'd already fixed the comic template. As I said, these were the &quot;other manual categorizations&quot;. Noinclude would work, I suppose, but I do think we need to somehow fix that if the entire article is going to be included on the main page. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issues ==<br /> <br /> I seem to be seeing some caching issues with images. I can't be sure if this will still be in effect by the time anyone reads this, but at the time of writing, [[:File:United Shapes.png]], for example, is still displaying as an older revision (even though it correctly states the filesize and resolution of the current version). Viewing the &quot;full sized image&quot; ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png]) still displays that older revision, as well. However, if you add a question mark to the end of the full sized URL ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png?]), the image is correctly purged and displays the correct image (although only with that URL, not on the file page nor where the image is transcluded). In other words, there's a caching issue.<br /> <br /> I used to edit on some Wikia sites where they also had this issue, and it drove all the editors up the wall (particularly since it ended up affecting a good portion of images when updated, sometimes for as long as several hours). It was frankly quite frustrating when Wikia refused to do anything about that problem (part of the reason I don't edit there anymore). Is there any chance someone could look into this issue? I'm not sure what entirely causes it. {{User:Omega/sig}} 01:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aaaaand the image is updated (so the above example won't work anymore). The images definitely seem to be updating, but it's rather slow: at least a few minutes... {{User:Omega/sig}} 02:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think it might have to do with the [[mw:Manual:Job queue#HTML cache invalidation|Job queue]]. If that's the case, such updates will gradually happen as edits are made to other pages (each edit takes a job from the queue and runs it). But I'm not entirely sure that's what's at play here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Related issue?===<br /> Don't know if this is related, but I'm noticing that thumbnails are displaying as red X's on alot of images - especially where I've noticed that editors have corrected the image title to lowercase in an article. One example is [[file:t-shirts]] and [[T-shirts]] - the thumbnails for the image history on the image page itself are Xs for me, as is the actualy comic on its comic page, which was at a reduced size. This isn't the only comic doing this. [[Hitler]] is as well, for example. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Creating new comics ==<br /> <br /> I'm a big fan of [[List of all comics]] which I think is a great page and resource. Problem is, at least for me, the &quot;create&quot; button isn't working like it should. It's not preloading the {{tl|create}} template as a starting template. If someone has time to take a look at that issue, I think it's a great idea. Is there any way that the preload could also somehow be passed the comic number, image name and comic name so the user doesn't have to reenter those? We should look into this. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Ditto. There are a few refinements that I think could be made, though.<br /> :* It's huge, taking a lot of time to load (tables tend to do that, I suppose) so perhaps breaking it into groups, even if it's on the same page (that is, separate tables for each hundred or fraction thereof) Breaking each into sections would allow a TOC for rapid navigation, too.<br /> :* While it might be innocuous, the (create) link isn't needed for anything that isn't redlinked, so maybe an #ifexist, for when the pages do get created, the create no longer appears.<br /> :Just thotz. Otherwise, it's a really useful page, both for visitors, and gnomes. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The create link only appears on redlinked pages for me already. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:45, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == short URLs ==<br /> <br /> Hi, you should try to enable short URLs, which remove the ugly index.php from every URL. It makes navigation more intuitive and &quot;wiki-style&quot;. It's actually quite easy to do: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL]<br /> <br /> (Oh, and by the way, would you add WikiEditor? It's so beautiful :) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor])<br /> <br /> == Scaled Images ==<br /> <br /> Some of the larger comics are being scaled down to 800px wide. But MediaWiki apparently wants a discrete image rather than scaling what's been uploaded. Is there a plan to fix this? I hope I posted to the right section [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Can you provide an article as an example, because I'm not sure what you mean here. What I ''have'' noticed lately, and maybe this is the same thing you're talking about is that ''any'' scaled image is not displaying and I'm not sure what the error is.<br /> <br /> [[file:Cueball.png|50px|right]]<br /> For Example:<br /> <br /> : The image links to [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/thumb/4/46/Cueball.png/50px-Cueball.png], which gives a 404. Maybe this is related to [[#short URLs]]? --[[Special:Contributions/83.243.48.2|83.243.48.2]] 06:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::When I first started posting comics, the scaling worked; so something changed to break the images. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I'll start building a list here of them as I go through. Feel free to strike out the ones that fix themselves or get fixed.<br /> :* [[1040: Lakes and Oceans]]<br /> :* [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> :* [[1080: Visual Field]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_2.png]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_small.png]]<br /> :* Basically, anything that's been scaled down, whether automatically by the wiki software (usually on File pages), or by people putting in widths into the comic template on comic pages so the images aren't obnoxiously large.<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Right - so this is the same problem. Basically resized images are no longer working properly for some reason... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images_and_other_uploaded_files#Thumbnails_not_being_created Here is a mediawiki discussion] on this same (appraently) issue. And [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki_1.19#Thumbnails_didn.27t_work_since_Update_to_1.19_15046 this is a mediawiki bug report thread] that has at least one link to a patch. Perhaps someone in management can attempt to impliment some of the proposed solutions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issue with pages ==<br /> <br /> I'm noticing that aside from the image scaling issue (that I really hope someone is working on), I'm noticing that pages appear to be caching - I edited the latest article but my edits don't immediately show on the main page where that article is transcluded (as of this writing, I still see dead links on the mainpage to &quot;Comics featuring Beret Guy&quot; &quot;Comics featuring Ponytail&quot; because I forgot to add &quot;Category:&quot; to the wiki tag, even though I've already fixed the error in the article. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Math extension ==<br /> <br /> [[:mw:Extension:Math|Extension:Math]] for mathematical formulas in &quot;Transcript&quot; sections (see [[385]] or [[870]]). --[[User:Valepert|valepert]] ([[User talk:Valepert|talk]]) 04:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External Link ==<br /> <br /> The little image that is usually there to indicate an external link is not appear on some pages:<br /> <br /> + Home Page&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Community Portal&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Etc&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Probably a permissions issue. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Spam template add noindex ==<br /> <br /> Can the spam template be modified to also tag the pages as [[:Category:Noindexed pages]] so that passing search engine robots don't think we're promoting those sites? I haven't leveled up enough in wiki-knowledge to be smart enough to do that on my own. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Apologies if this is already implemented, but just add &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;__NOINDEX__&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; to the template page. That's assuming the robots.txt for this website is set up to accept instructions from the wiki, of course. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 07:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Change &quot;Discussion&quot; to &quot;Talk&quot; ==<br /> <br /> It seems we've borrowed a number of templates and other settings that refer to &quot;T&quot; or &quot;talk&quot; for what is still called &quot;Discussion&quot; here. I suggest it is changed to &quot;Talk&quot; now, rather than change the references back to &quot;D&quot; and &quot;discussion&quot;. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New comic template: ==<br /> <br /> [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Edit_toolbar this guy] has indicated that he has &quot;added some interesting features to my toolbar, including adding a page template as a button&quot; - it would be great to Add the {{tl|create}} template code as a quick clickable button to insert when creating a new page for new comics... Can anyone with admin access to the site code add such a button?? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xkcd icon ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone see the icon next to xkcd.com links? I just see a blank space. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I cannot, and as far as I know, no one else can. I suspect that this is related to the image resizing bug that we are also dealing with. But, as no one is working on that, there will not be a fix for this either in the near (or indeed the foreseeable) future. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: We could simply remove it. I mean, was it that useful anyway? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Actually, it wasn't related to the image scaling problem. It turns out the direct link at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] was outdated. I just fixed that :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We need more maintainers ==<br /> <br /> :''I'm moving a thread that Davidy22 started on my talk page. The gist is, we need more people with server-side access (especially mediawiki-savvy ones) so we can properly deal with several issues that have been plaguing the wiki for a while now, most notably spam, but also the image scaling problem, a possible extension for proper comments, clean urls, etc. Below is the original thread, please comment.'' --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could you set the permissions so that all anon users have to pass a captcha to edit? The spam has gotten obscene, and they've stopped posting links, so our current detection mechanisms aren't working anymore. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would love to have the ability to tweak the wiki more thoroughly, but currently Jeff's the only one with server access. To be honest, I am not terribly familiar with server-side mediawiki management, so I haven't asked Jeff for access, but it's clear we can't be dependent on a single person to do all the mediawiki config (and Jeff probably knows even less about mediawiki than I do). Are you by any chance acquainted with server-side mediawiki maintenance? I think we could present a good case for having someone else with access to a dev/prototype instance of this wiki on Jeff's server so we could at least experiment and tell him exactly what needs to be done. Thoughts? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that we need more people that are empowered to actively fight spam. I think that we ought to promote Davidy22 to administrator also, so that he can delete pages and block spammers/vandals as he notices them rather than letting them pile up until yourself, IronyChef, or myself notice that there's work that needs done.<br /> <br /> ::What I think we should do is break out rights into more groups than simply administrator and bureaucrat. I think that's too big of a jump, and that there should be some gradiation. I think we should add a moderator (mark pages as patrolled and rollback ability (as much as it's a sledgehammer when you really only need a ball-peen hammer)) position.<br /> <br /> ::I think we also need a spam fighter position, but that might not be possible to implement. It should be a position that allows the person to delete pages with 1 or 2 edits (page creation, marked as spam, maybe as high as 3 or 4 for the bots that repeat edit certain pages) and block users with 1 or 2 edits. The real problem there is how to grant those super-powerful abilities without allowing them to lose their mind and go crazy and destroy the wiki. Of course, if we don't catch it early enough there's going to be those IPs that manage to get to six edits, and those will have to be squashed by a full admin. We will also need a way of tagging those spam accounts so when a full admin passes by they will also know to ban the IP address after a spam fighter has deleted all the pages it created.<br /> <br /> ::Finally, we also need a more active bureaucrat so that we don't have to bug Jeff to promote admin's as well as future moderators and/or spam fighters, and recognize bot accounts as bot accounts. We also should find someone knowledgeable to help Jeff (and maybe he has little helpers) to maintain the actual server. I've done some PHP work, but I've never touched anything deep inside a wiki (I like Ruby and Rails much more). This is my first time gaining admin status on a wiki, so I have no idea what the extra dials and levers do/mean. I look up on the MediaWiki manual and Wikipedia help pages things that I think should be possible, and often times pages exist in places about doing these things, but I'm nowhere near being called knowledgeable. After I finish up some IRL work I'm currently tied up in, I intend to set up a VM webserver on my computers and run a mediawiki install so I can learn how to work (and not break) things without putting explain xkcd in jeopardy.<br /> <br /> ::Another really wordy post from, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: From what I know, a moderator user group is possible, but not the spam fighter one. Then again, too many hierarchical levels may be too much for such a small body of regulars. Implementing the moderator group is easy, [[mw:Manual:User rights]] has the details (the &quot;ninja&quot; example and the &quot;list of permissions&quot; section should be enough for putting together the configuration commands to be added to the wiki's LocalSettings.php).<br /> ::: As for bureaucrats, I think it makes sense but it seems to me that Jeff only takes longer to perform changes that affect the server, as they understandably may take longer or be more complex (or break the wiki!). Bureaucrats' only difference from admins is that they can promote/demote other users, and this Jeff has been doing without delay, so perhaps there isn't a need for more bureaucrats at the moment. Please correct me if I'm wrong.<br /> ::: We do need more sysadmins (people with access to the server), though, for sure. This is a little tricky as none of us is comfortable enough to confidently make server changes in a mediawiki install. Jeff, how about putting the wiki in source control and giving two or three people access to it, so that any wrongdoings can be easily reverted? You could setup a git repository in the server and we could fork it locally to our machines, make tests and push the commits to the server repo whenever they're ready. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: This is good stuff. I'm down with promoting more admins for spam fighting. If they screw stuff up we can demote them if necessary. I really haven't found a spam fighting extension that I think will be the best possible solution. I'll keep looking as it may be a combination of things. Server access is much more complicated as it is not even my server and it is shared hosting. I think that would be best to be accessed just by me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Regarding the server, I understand -- your position seems reasonable. In any case, I've been looking for extensions that may help taking some workload out of server actions and make more stuff configurable via the wiki itself. I'll report back if I find something usable.<br /> ::::: On another note, how do you feel about promoting more bureaucrats? I suggest Lcarsos who's been consistently active for the past few months. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally I'd kind of like to go and make some changes myself. Come up with a nice short url pattern and set it up. Upgrade the wiki. etc... [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 02:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The shorter URL is being looked into, although Mediawiki strongly advises against it. As for upgrades to the wiki, monetary donations towards Jeff so he can buy better bit for the server would be appreciated. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 03:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::MediaWiki does not advise against it. Half the code currently running short URLs in core was written by me. Same for the new standard for rewrite rules in the new guides. And the tool to automatically generate the config needed to apply short urls to a wiki. Short URLs are '''not''' advised against.<br /> ::We do however strongly advise against installing a wiki in &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt;. Because you do '''not''' want to create &lt;code&gt;/wiki/$1&lt;/code&gt; style paths while your script path makes scripts look like &lt;code&gt;/wiki/index.php&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::In this case my plan would be to move &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt; to &lt;code&gt;/w&lt;/code&gt; then come up with some other short url pattern like &lt;code&gt;/e/$1&lt;/code&gt;, some other path, or maybe &lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::And setup some 301 redirects to redirect from the old urls to the new ones.<br /> ::And upgrading the version of MediaWiki so that it doesn't have security holes doesn't require server replacement. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 07:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Ohwait, software upgrades. Uh. I knew you were talking about that. Yep. Definitely. The wiki recently had issues with running out of hard drive space, so that was all that was on my mind there.<br /> :::Also, I thought you had been referring to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory this]. Whoop. Well, you could leave Jeff a message at his [[user talk:Jeff|talk page]] to get server access. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:05, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I strongly support this. It's been far too long since we decided we'd want the short url scheme (&lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt; seems like the best option since it would be simpler/cleaner and allow http://explainxkcd/1234 to point to the correct comic without any extra rewrite rules). While you're at it, I'm sure many would appreciate a look at the current situation with image resizing, which doesn't seem to be working for some reason. Installing [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]] would be awesome, too, as well as [[mw:Extension:Contribution Scores|Extension:Contribution Scores]] ([http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Special:ContributionScores live example]). I'll ask Jeff to take a look at this thread. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) email me and I'll get you set up with whatever you need. All the suggestions sound good to me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Also, the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution Scores]] are up. I'm not even top 10 all time, I need to step up my game. Comments will take more work as it needs its own database. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Awesome! I did some styling changes to make it more interesting :) Let me know what you guys think about it! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Holy crud, what did you do when the wiki started to have almost double my lifetime score? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:57, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Hahahah :P I'm pretty sure I cheated a little, IIRC there was an image renaming operation for which I used [http://github.com/btongminh/mwclient mwclient] ;) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sort by numbers in categories ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that in [[:Category:Comics]] all comics are sorted correctly by numbers; but not in any subcategory. (I didn't really get the explanation of how it works on the comics page.) How to fix this? -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;nowiki&gt;The comics template uses a template called num4 that turns the number in the comic number field into a four-digit number. That's then passed as a parameter to the category link, and the comics category page sorts articles by those four-digit numbers instead of their actual names. If we wanted to do the same for other categories, we would have to type them all out as [[Category:Politics|0200]], or whatever the comic number is. I would rather wait for mediawiki to come out with an in-built feature to solve this.&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there a reason that the template applies that directly to [[:Category:Comics]] and not as a default sortkey via DEFAULTSORT? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:10, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Good thinking. Using DEFAULTSORT oughta make it work for all categories. I'll give it a try. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Resize ==<br /> <br /> I haven't been here (to edit) for a while, but have we still not addressed the bug that doesn't allow image resizing? I know most of us don't have access to that kind of lower-level coding on the site, but I think it's a bit of a notable issue that we can't display comics smaller than their actual size. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Take it up with [[User:Jeff]], but I suspect that adding your voice to the already insistent roaring that images are broken isn't going to inspire much change. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incidental Ads ==<br /> <br /> as ive noticed i think you should check if someone has embeded some of your links with ads really annoying please fix<br /> <br /> --[[User:TheWeatherMan|TheWeatherMan]] ([[User talk:TheWeatherMan|talk]]) 14:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)TheWeatherMan<br /> <br /> :Do you have any specific examples of this? By the way, using punctuation, capitalization, spell check, and complete sentences are more likely to get someone to help you. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There is known malware (both adware and viruses) that makes Wikipedia look like it has ads. This wiki uses the same wiki software, so perhaps that malware affects our site too? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==/wiki/==<br /> Now that explainxkcd redirects straight to the wiki, could we take the /wiki/ out of the url? I'd also like the wiki's edit log to be purged to clean out the history and forget about past spam, but that's probably wishing for too much. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But seriously, could the /wiki/ go? It'll screw with the spammers for a day or two, at the very least. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Newbie questions: Comic dates, previous-and-next-comic buttons==<br /> Just created the my first page, [[220: Philosophy]], but I could use a little guidance. How do I find the date that an ''xkcd'' comic was originally posted, and how do I rig up the previous-comic and next-comic arrows on a page? (Actually, I've noticed several pages that should have the arrows but don't.) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Those arrows will automagically insert themselves when you make the adjacent comic explanations. There *is* a little backstage magic that needs to be taken care of, but we can do that for you. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ** OK. How about the dates? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Click on &quot;All Comics&quot; in the navbar on left-hand side of the site. The dates are in the form YYYY-MM-DD. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The comic template checks for the existence of the numerical redirect for the comic before and the comic after. If it finds the page to exist it will display the next/previous button as appropriate. So, by creating the redirects listed on the [[List of all comics]] (third column, only worry about the number and title links) future pages will automatically get the links created. Redirect pages look like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[####: Comic Title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; and that's it ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1143&amp;redirect=no here] is a link to the redirect page with redirect disabled so you can look at the source to see what I'm talking about). That's all that needs to exist on the number and title redirects. If you feel up to creating them yourself, feel free, otherwise someone else goes through occasionally and mass adds all the missing redirects. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Error message ==<br /> <br /> I've been getting this error message a lot the last cup'o days. When trying to access a page; when trying to save changes on a page. Any ideas on why? I'm getting it on both chrome and firefox.<br /> ::Database error<br /> ::A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br /> ::(SQL query hidden) from within function &quot;Revision::insertOn&quot;. Database returned error &quot;1142: INSERT command denied to user ::'dbo423085716'@'74.208.16.155' for :table 'text' (db423085716.db.1and1.com)&quot;.<br /> –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Every once in a while I get a SQL error being reported, but usually I can simply F5 and the page comes up. Every once in a while it seems like the server load is just so that somebody gets lucky enough to see the server error out. I don't think there's much we can do about this, other than move the wiki onto a more powerful server. But, there are no ads on this site, there is no revenue model, just a very kind person paying for hosting that keeps this site up. I'm more than willing to overlook a few hiccups for the continuing availability of explain xkcd. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, I get those too, but St. Nerol was talking about something that happened recently with the server running out of hard drive space and throwing SQL errors every time someone tried to make large edits. I had to find Jeff on twitter because I'd get SQL errors when I tried to edit his talk page. He's looking into history deletion plugins, to clear out our vast archives of deleted spam and obsoleted prototype comic templates. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Install a caching reverse proxy to handle heavy load ==<br /> <br /> According to returned headers, this server runs from Apache directly. I would recommend setting up a reverse caching proxy in front of Apache to handle high traffic load (like, e.g. current load). The one I use is nginx (http://nginx.org/) -- admins, drop me an email if you need help setting it up [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 21:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The standard software to use is either Squid or Varnish. Nginx is a bit too much of a webserver to be configured in the way MW needs iirc. Although nginx would help with serving the static assets. Unfortunately there will be a need to switch to a proper server first. The site seems to be hosted on shared hosting. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 04:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I had gotten burned before with both Squid and Varnish but Nginx had always kept my systems alive. It's extremely lightweight and works great to fix these kinds of problems. But, of course if it's a shared server where you can't use it, it won't help... [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Nginx is a great webserver. It'll serve out static pages much better than Apache. But the issue here isn't the webserver. It's PHP and all the work that the database needs to do on every request. Switching webservers won't get rid of that issue. Using squid/varnish a proper reverse proxying cache will allow complete pages to be cached and served directly to readers bypassing the webserver, php, and the database entirely on some requests. That'll reduce the load the site has to cope with. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 23:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A couple of enwiki features implemented ==<br /> <br /> I have &quot;imported&quot; {{tl|disambig}} and the related [[:Category:Disambiguation pages|category]] for the [[Exoplanets‎‎|one page]] it was needed for (to avoid having a page that was uncategorised :-) ).<br /> <br /> I have also created {{tl|unsigned ip}} (and converted the one use of {{tl|Unsigned}}) and applied it for a handful of existing uses of {{tl|unsigned}}. It hardly matters, but then it's also only three more characters to type for new uses.<br /> <br /> Importantly, however, I implore you to consider including the second datestamp parameter when applying either template -- it's actually the more useful information. I know it's a pain to convert times ''back'' to UTC, but, hey, most of you don't have to deal with a half hour timezone :-) [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 16:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Urrggh, there's an option to make UTC the default display time. The template oughta be a little more automated, mebbe filling the time in automagically with five tildes if no date field is entered? The time will be a bit off when editors fill in the unsigned templates, but it'll be close enough to the actual value. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::No, especially while there's existing templates to adjust, where the &quot;default&quot; datestamp would be way out. If someone wants to fix a lot of the existing usage, setting their timezone to UTC is the simplest option. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 09:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread has been moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading|The proposals board]].''<br /> <br /> == Need password reset ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you all, but I seem to have lost the password to this account and don't have an email set (which requires the password). I'm still logged in thanks to the &quot;remember me&quot; feature but after 30 days I'll lose access. This isn't fixable at the MediaWiki level; someone with access to the server mysql or whatever will need to change something. Is there such a person I can email with? [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 03:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I assume your browser isn't remembering it for you? [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 03:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh wow that was fast. Nope, neither Firefox not OSX keychain access know what it is. [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> : I'm not sure how to solve that problem, but I know account usurpation has been done for the single-login transition in Wikimedia wikis, so technically it should be doable. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Analytics ==<br /> <br /> Recently I found out about WikiApiary, an interesting site that collects analytics from mediawiki wikis. I added explain xkcd. Check the stats that have been collected so far: http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/explain_xkcd --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 00:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;External&quot; hotlinking enabled to confirm issue with other car.jpg ==<br /> <br /> FYI I have [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:External_image_whitelist&amp;oldid=34582 enabled] &quot;external&quot; hotlinking to this wiki's own images to show [[:File:other car.jpg]] can display correctly. See further notes about that issue [[File talk:other car.jpg|here]]. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 14:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If the problem is lack of thumbnail generation, it should display correctly even without hotlinking, simply by using the original size, e.g.<br /> :[[File:other car.jpg]]<br /> :I'm not sure why it doesn't. In any case, this image hotlinking thing reminded me, would it be a good idea to use the images hosted at XKCD.com and only upload variants to the wiki (e.g. those at [[:Category:Helper comic images]]) and images Randall for some reason deleted from the server (e.g. images with typos)? This would reduce the load on the explainxkcd server and provide a better experience for viewers since xkcd is already optimized for high loads and actually openly provides the image urls for hotlinking. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Seeing as [[User:Daddy]]'s upload has fixed the wiki always attempting to display the thumbnail version (which still don't work), I have disabled the &quot;hotlinking&quot; again.<br /> <br /> [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=512:_Alternate_Currency 2013-04-22T03:12:55Z

<p>Waldir: </p> <hr /> <div>{{comic<br /> | number = 512<br /> | date = March 12, 2008<br /> | title = Alternate Currency<br /> | image = alternate_currency.png<br /> | titletext = For the first time ever, the phrase 'I'd like to thank everyone at 4chan for making me successful and happy' is uttered.<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Explanation==<br /> [[Cueball]] is shown watching television, where it is announced that the US dollar has collapsed and been replaced by an 'alternative currency' of humorous pictures commonly shared on the internet. The title text pokes fun at users of [http://www.4chan.org 4Chan] who are notoriously known for their habit of hoarding image macros, a practice he suggests is almost useless except in the instance jokingly suggested by the comic. Randall also pokes fun at himself in saying &quot;I have been preparing for this moment my whole life&quot;, indirectly implying he is also guilty of this practice.<br /> <br /> ==Transcript==<br /> :Television: With the collapse of the dollar, the government has endorsed an alternative currency. Your monetary worth is now determined by the number of funny pictures saved to your hard drive.<br /> <br /> :I have been preparing for this moment my whole life.<br /> <br /> {{comic discussion}}<br /> [[Category:Internet]]<br /> [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]]</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Technical 2013-04-21T23:24:00Z

<p>Waldir: /* &quot;External&quot; hotlinking enabled to confirm issue with other car.jpg */ forgot the question mark :P</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Changelog ==<br /> <br /> I created this page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've also created [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've changed [[MediaWiki:Helppage]] to point here. If we decide to have a local users manual or help desk, it should probably be changed. The default target was &quot;Help:Contents&quot;. This also changes where the &quot;Help&quot; link in the sidebar points, so right now we have two different sidebar links pointing to the same place. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:30, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Update: I changed it to point to [[mw:Help:Contents|Help:Contents]] at mediawiki.org. The community portal is already linked from the sidebar, it was redundant to have two links there pointing to the same page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I created [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. This is one of the &quot;did I break it&quot;-type changes, so let me know if you notice anything strange. The new pages are made up of excerpts from their Wikipedia counterparts - I copied what I thought was potentially useful and left the rest. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community Portal]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:08, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Sitenotice dismissal ==<br /> <br /> There should be a way to dismiss the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] after you've read it. I know it can be done, but don't know how, does anyone else? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :What do you think about this extension? [[mw:Extension:DismissableSiteNotice|Dismissable Site Notice]] --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes! That's probably what I'm looking for. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Hey,<br /> <br /> You might consider [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments]. It acts basically like the comment system on the blog, so you could keep everything (article, comments) in one place. It's more conducive to casual conversation than the discussion page.<br /> --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 14:07, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :That's nice, but a simpler approach could be just to transclude the talk page in the subject page itself, as is done in the Wikipedia Signpost (see [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-30/Technology report|here]] for an example). --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, that would work. The extension does have its advantages though - it's easier for new users (no markup), you can have upvotes/downvotes/&quot;comments of the day&quot;... It's a matter of preference, I suppose. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 22:27, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Discussion above moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ::: I'll take a look and see what looks best. I don't necessarily like the transcluding option. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Neither do I, to be honest. I just created {{tl|Comic discussion}} to make things a little smoother, but from my experience, there will *always* be newcomers forgetting to sign, commenters confused about the best markup for indentation/replies, comments placed at the top rather than at the bottom, new comic description pages created without that template, etc. A proper commenting solution might be the best option for this. I just mentioned the transclusion option to let people know it was a possibility. Also, in the long run we need to make sure the wiki doesn't start looking like Wikia (blergh) if we start adding too many custom extensions. But a comment extension seems to be essential if we don't want to alienate the blog's community. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Following post moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Comments]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> I'd like to suggest we add comments capabilities to the comics pages, since the discussion pages don't lend themselves to the kind of dialogue experienced on the blog. There appear to be several extensions that allow this, but I'm fairly new to the wikimedia stuff so I'm not sure how it would work, exactly. <br /> <br /> One extension available is [[mw:Extension:WordPress Comments|Extension:WordPress Comments]], which appears to enable the style of comments we are used to. Any thoughts? --[[User:DanB|DanB]] (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : We should definitely give it a try :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: That said, [http://shadowfax.org.uk/wiki/MediaWiki_Wordpress_Comment_Extension_Code its demo] looks rather simple. Extension:Comments seems to be a little more powerful (supporting replies, user pictures, voting, and maybe more). The only advantage of the Wordpress one is that it would integrate with Wordpress so extra accounts don't need to be created, but I assume most people who used to comment on the blog didn't have accounts anyway... --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Tried [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments] - but the download page for it does not exist. Anyone have any ideas why that is? Looks like an extension I'd like to try, but I can't download it! --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Robots.txt ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to set it up, but if you could edit the robots.txt file to exclude the contents of [[:Category:Noindexed pages]]? I've created a [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for people to test the unfamiliar features in, and you're probably not going to want that indexed by the search engines. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Apparently you can edit it through [[MediaWiki:Robots.txt]], but I'm not experienced enough to know what will happen if you block a url that runs through a .php page. (Perhaps nothing? Perhaps it blocks everything?) Is there any chance of moving the wiki to use /wiki/articlename urls like Wikipedia does rather than the current /wiki/index.php?title=articlename ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:43, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: /wiki/articlename would be great. Been trying to figure out how to make it work for days. Let me know if you know how. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> For URL rewritung, have a look at mediawiki.org: [[mw:Manual:Short URL|Short URL]] or for [[mw:Manual:Short URL/Apache|Apache]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:49, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Gadgets? ==<br /> <br /> Can we enable [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Gadgets]]? I'd really like to bring over [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Popups]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:HotCat]] as gadgets. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:45, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :sounds good. I'll do it later this weekend when I get back to my computer to get to the FTP access. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::That'd be great! While you're at it, [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Inputbox]] is something we may want for the future, though we don't need it now. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :: {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: For the record, what was installed was the Gadgets extension (which makes sense since Philosopher said the InputBox is not needed ATM). I had already brought the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js|HotCat gadget]], which should now be visible in the users' preferences for enabling. It was also necessary to create [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] and [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat|the description for HotCat]] so it could appear in the preferences page. However, it doesn't seem to be working... If someone can figure out what's wrong, we can fix it. One can test the script separately from the gadget system (so we can make sure it's not a gadget problem) by installing it as a user script, as I did in [[User:Waldir/common.js]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Nevermind, the guys from the #mediawiki IRC channel helped me figure out what was wrong :) it should be working now and available to all users via the gadgets tab of the preferences page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::: You rule Waldir. The InputBox extension is enabled as well for good measure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 13:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Awesome :D I assume Philosopher will have a few ideas for that (namely the {{tl|Community portal}} template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: Yeah, that's where I found out about it, at least. I may not find time to implement it right away - I'm busy in RL at the moment. In the mean time, I've imported Popups from en.wikipedia. I haven't edited out the references to Wikipedia in it b/c I'm not quite sure which of them will break things or what to replace them with. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wordpress Import ==<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Wordpress Import]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Anyone have any idea on how to import all of my posts from Wordpress into pages in the wiki? I can do it manually obviously, but I'd love to do it programatically. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> : I also realize that I won't be importing ALL the posts, just the ones that don't already have pages in the wiki already created. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] said ([[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Adding a new comic|here]]): ''When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically.'' He's speaking about importing and creating pages for all comics programmatically. I don't know if he includes the explanations from your blog posts, though...<br /> :Also, do you think it could be a good idea to import, in the comic discussions here, the comments existing in the wordpress blog for comics prior to the wiki conversion? They obviously wouldn't be associated with wiki accounts, but we could get a copy of them here (with the dates, names, and also the +/- comment appreciation maybe...). Perhaps this could be considered once the idea of wordpress comments on wiki pages (as suggested [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Technical#Comments|here]] by [[User:DanB|DanB]]) is already settled.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I don't think I can import blog posts completely automatically, but maybe write something to make it easier. I'll have to look what is possible, but I'd say the least I'll need is an account for Wordpress.<br /> :: Importing comments is similar: No promises, but probably difficult if not impossible. I'll have to see the comment system in the wiki. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Importing all previous blog comments would be awesome. We could try a test installation of wordpress and a few test pages here on the wiki (it's easy to delete them if we screw up anything). In any case, I expect some manual tweaking to be needed if we want to convert the comments already posted on-wiki into comments of the wordpress plugin. It's definitely a challenge, but after all, we're xkcd readers, by definition we enjoy a good puzzle :) (and many of us are perfectionists who won't settle for a less-than-perfect solution :D). I say let's hack the heck outta that extension! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Sorry to the perfectionists, but regarding a less-than-perfect solution, could we include a link to the blog comments as a temporary stopgap? I've been using [[1004:_Batman]] to try my hand at adding a comic, and I added a subtle link to the blog comments below the discussion box/transmutation. I'm thinking that link could be added programatically because we know how the blog structure is with year/month/date foldering. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 17:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Yes, it can be automatically generated by the {{tl|comic}} template. [[User:TheHYPO]] should be able do do it. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automation ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Automation]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> This wiki lacks automation, every time a comic comes out it needs to be submitted manually. A really simple way to do this is utilize xkcd's own JSON feed.<br /> http://xkcd.com/json.html<br /> If you download the latest comic json feed and edit it in notepad, you find all sorts of useful data like a complete transcript of the comic. --[[User:Jtorba|Jtorba]] ([[User talk:Jtorba|talk]]) 14:28, 7 August 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Outage ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Miscellaneous]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Just experienced the following navigating the site...<br /> <br /> Internal Server Error<br /> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to <br /> complete your request.<br /> <br /> Please contact the server administrator, webadmin@kundenserver.de and inform <br /> them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that <br /> may have caused the error.<br /> <br /> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.<br /> <br /> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an <br /> ErrorDocument to handle the request.<br /> <br /> Very strange, and not able to repro it, so it seems to have been transient. Just noting it here in case it happens again. I assume this is a hosting company hiccup.<br /> <br /> BTW, while researching the above, I noticed that the ''explainxkcd.com'' domain registration expires in 3 days (August 10)... hopefully the bill has been paid; I'd hate for this site to go down; Grace Period and Redemption are a PITA... -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :over the past week, I've gotten a few of those Internal Server Errors at random. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Not sure what is up with them, but I've gotten some as well. It is either me messing with the site or the server creaking under pressure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Could be the pressure... I've been getting a few randomly and the site every now and then gets quite slow. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#References]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Can we install the &quot;references&quot; plugin so that we can use &quot;ref&quot; tags and add &quot;references&quot; sections to certain comics? I grant that it won't be as useful as on wikipedia, as most references are generally just wikilinks to wikipedia anyway, but I think it could be helpful. In editing the [[Black Hat]] article, I wanted to cite references to specific comics. I had to write them into the text because references aren't installed. If References do get installed, I'd like to also suggest a template for {{tl|cite comic}} to create a quick and easy uniform reference to comics by number (or perhaps by name at the user's option?) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Do you have a link for the References plugin? I searched quickly on MediaWiki's site and didn't see anything. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php Cite extension]<br /> :::It defaults (I believe) to citing in a 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 style; there's SOMETHING That lets you change it to the more familiar wikipedia 'a' 'b' 'c' style, which is easier to read, imo. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: qv the existing &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, which generate links to a specific xkcd comic, or the corresponding explanation here, respectively; to wit, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produce {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}}, the latter could also be used this way: {{explain|29: Hitler}}. Either could also become {{xkcd|29|the first comic in which Black Hat appears}} or {{explain|29|Black Hat's first appearance}}. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mainpage category issues ==<br /> <br /> Waldir already did some repairs to the {{tl|comic}} template to keep it from sorting the [[Main Page]] into categories when the template is transcluded on the main page, but I see that other manual categorizations are still being transcluded (eg: the main page is currently categorized into [[:category:Comics featuring Cueball]]. Is there a way to include the article without including its categories at all? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :That doesn't seem to be related to the {{tl|comic}} template. Apparently the categories added manually to the comic page are getting to the main page. We can, for now, wrap them in noinclude tags. Maybe later we should create a {{tl|category}} template that does that automatically. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::I noted in that you'd already fixed the comic template. As I said, these were the &quot;other manual categorizations&quot;. Noinclude would work, I suppose, but I do think we need to somehow fix that if the entire article is going to be included on the main page. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issues ==<br /> <br /> I seem to be seeing some caching issues with images. I can't be sure if this will still be in effect by the time anyone reads this, but at the time of writing, [[:File:United Shapes.png]], for example, is still displaying as an older revision (even though it correctly states the filesize and resolution of the current version). Viewing the &quot;full sized image&quot; ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png]) still displays that older revision, as well. However, if you add a question mark to the end of the full sized URL ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png?]), the image is correctly purged and displays the correct image (although only with that URL, not on the file page nor where the image is transcluded). In other words, there's a caching issue.<br /> <br /> I used to edit on some Wikia sites where they also had this issue, and it drove all the editors up the wall (particularly since it ended up affecting a good portion of images when updated, sometimes for as long as several hours). It was frankly quite frustrating when Wikia refused to do anything about that problem (part of the reason I don't edit there anymore). Is there any chance someone could look into this issue? I'm not sure what entirely causes it. {{User:Omega/sig}} 01:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aaaaand the image is updated (so the above example won't work anymore). The images definitely seem to be updating, but it's rather slow: at least a few minutes... {{User:Omega/sig}} 02:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think it might have to do with the [[mw:Manual:Job queue#HTML cache invalidation|Job queue]]. If that's the case, such updates will gradually happen as edits are made to other pages (each edit takes a job from the queue and runs it). But I'm not entirely sure that's what's at play here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Related issue?===<br /> Don't know if this is related, but I'm noticing that thumbnails are displaying as red X's on alot of images - especially where I've noticed that editors have corrected the image title to lowercase in an article. One example is [[file:t-shirts]] and [[T-shirts]] - the thumbnails for the image history on the image page itself are Xs for me, as is the actualy comic on its comic page, which was at a reduced size. This isn't the only comic doing this. [[Hitler]] is as well, for example. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Creating new comics ==<br /> <br /> I'm a big fan of [[List of all comics]] which I think is a great page and resource. Problem is, at least for me, the &quot;create&quot; button isn't working like it should. It's not preloading the {{tl|create}} template as a starting template. If someone has time to take a look at that issue, I think it's a great idea. Is there any way that the preload could also somehow be passed the comic number, image name and comic name so the user doesn't have to reenter those? We should look into this. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Ditto. There are a few refinements that I think could be made, though.<br /> :* It's huge, taking a lot of time to load (tables tend to do that, I suppose) so perhaps breaking it into groups, even if it's on the same page (that is, separate tables for each hundred or fraction thereof) Breaking each into sections would allow a TOC for rapid navigation, too.<br /> :* While it might be innocuous, the (create) link isn't needed for anything that isn't redlinked, so maybe an #ifexist, for when the pages do get created, the create no longer appears.<br /> :Just thotz. Otherwise, it's a really useful page, both for visitors, and gnomes. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The create link only appears on redlinked pages for me already. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:45, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == short URLs ==<br /> <br /> Hi, you should try to enable short URLs, which remove the ugly index.php from every URL. It makes navigation more intuitive and &quot;wiki-style&quot;. It's actually quite easy to do: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL]<br /> <br /> (Oh, and by the way, would you add WikiEditor? It's so beautiful :) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor])<br /> <br /> == Scaled Images ==<br /> <br /> Some of the larger comics are being scaled down to 800px wide. But MediaWiki apparently wants a discrete image rather than scaling what's been uploaded. Is there a plan to fix this? I hope I posted to the right section [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Can you provide an article as an example, because I'm not sure what you mean here. What I ''have'' noticed lately, and maybe this is the same thing you're talking about is that ''any'' scaled image is not displaying and I'm not sure what the error is.<br /> <br /> [[file:Cueball.png|50px|right]]<br /> For Example:<br /> <br /> : The image links to [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/thumb/4/46/Cueball.png/50px-Cueball.png], which gives a 404. Maybe this is related to [[#short URLs]]? --[[Special:Contributions/83.243.48.2|83.243.48.2]] 06:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::When I first started posting comics, the scaling worked; so something changed to break the images. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I'll start building a list here of them as I go through. Feel free to strike out the ones that fix themselves or get fixed.<br /> :* [[1040: Lakes and Oceans]]<br /> :* [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> :* [[1080: Visual Field]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_2.png]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_small.png]]<br /> :* Basically, anything that's been scaled down, whether automatically by the wiki software (usually on File pages), or by people putting in widths into the comic template on comic pages so the images aren't obnoxiously large.<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Right - so this is the same problem. Basically resized images are no longer working properly for some reason... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images_and_other_uploaded_files#Thumbnails_not_being_created Here is a mediawiki discussion] on this same (appraently) issue. And [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki_1.19#Thumbnails_didn.27t_work_since_Update_to_1.19_15046 this is a mediawiki bug report thread] that has at least one link to a patch. Perhaps someone in management can attempt to impliment some of the proposed solutions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issue with pages ==<br /> <br /> I'm noticing that aside from the image scaling issue (that I really hope someone is working on), I'm noticing that pages appear to be caching - I edited the latest article but my edits don't immediately show on the main page where that article is transcluded (as of this writing, I still see dead links on the mainpage to &quot;Comics featuring Beret Guy&quot; &quot;Comics featuring Ponytail&quot; because I forgot to add &quot;Category:&quot; to the wiki tag, even though I've already fixed the error in the article. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Math extension ==<br /> <br /> [[:mw:Extension:Math|Extension:Math]] for mathematical formulas in &quot;Transcript&quot; sections (see [[385]] or [[870]]). --[[User:Valepert|valepert]] ([[User talk:Valepert|talk]]) 04:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External Link ==<br /> <br /> The little image that is usually there to indicate an external link is not appear on some pages:<br /> <br /> + Home Page&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Community Portal&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Etc&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Probably a permissions issue. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Spam template add noindex ==<br /> <br /> Can the spam template be modified to also tag the pages as [[:Category:Noindexed pages]] so that passing search engine robots don't think we're promoting those sites? I haven't leveled up enough in wiki-knowledge to be smart enough to do that on my own. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Apologies if this is already implemented, but just add &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;__NOINDEX__&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; to the template page. That's assuming the robots.txt for this website is set up to accept instructions from the wiki, of course. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 07:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Change &quot;Discussion&quot; to &quot;Talk&quot; ==<br /> <br /> It seems we've borrowed a number of templates and other settings that refer to &quot;T&quot; or &quot;talk&quot; for what is still called &quot;Discussion&quot; here. I suggest it is changed to &quot;Talk&quot; now, rather than change the references back to &quot;D&quot; and &quot;discussion&quot;. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New comic template: ==<br /> <br /> [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Edit_toolbar this guy] has indicated that he has &quot;added some interesting features to my toolbar, including adding a page template as a button&quot; - it would be great to Add the {{tl|create}} template code as a quick clickable button to insert when creating a new page for new comics... Can anyone with admin access to the site code add such a button?? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xkcd icon ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone see the icon next to xkcd.com links? I just see a blank space. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I cannot, and as far as I know, no one else can. I suspect that this is related to the image resizing bug that we are also dealing with. But, as no one is working on that, there will not be a fix for this either in the near (or indeed the foreseeable) future. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: We could simply remove it. I mean, was it that useful anyway? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Actually, it wasn't related to the image scaling problem. It turns out the direct link at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] was outdated. I just fixed that :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We need more maintainers ==<br /> <br /> :''I'm moving a thread that Davidy22 started on my talk page. The gist is, we need more people with server-side access (especially mediawiki-savvy ones) so we can properly deal with several issues that have been plaguing the wiki for a while now, most notably spam, but also the image scaling problem, a possible extension for proper comments, clean urls, etc. Below is the original thread, please comment.'' --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could you set the permissions so that all anon users have to pass a captcha to edit? The spam has gotten obscene, and they've stopped posting links, so our current detection mechanisms aren't working anymore. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would love to have the ability to tweak the wiki more thoroughly, but currently Jeff's the only one with server access. To be honest, I am not terribly familiar with server-side mediawiki management, so I haven't asked Jeff for access, but it's clear we can't be dependent on a single person to do all the mediawiki config (and Jeff probably knows even less about mediawiki than I do). Are you by any chance acquainted with server-side mediawiki maintenance? I think we could present a good case for having someone else with access to a dev/prototype instance of this wiki on Jeff's server so we could at least experiment and tell him exactly what needs to be done. Thoughts? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that we need more people that are empowered to actively fight spam. I think that we ought to promote Davidy22 to administrator also, so that he can delete pages and block spammers/vandals as he notices them rather than letting them pile up until yourself, IronyChef, or myself notice that there's work that needs done.<br /> <br /> ::What I think we should do is break out rights into more groups than simply administrator and bureaucrat. I think that's too big of a jump, and that there should be some gradiation. I think we should add a moderator (mark pages as patrolled and rollback ability (as much as it's a sledgehammer when you really only need a ball-peen hammer)) position.<br /> <br /> ::I think we also need a spam fighter position, but that might not be possible to implement. It should be a position that allows the person to delete pages with 1 or 2 edits (page creation, marked as spam, maybe as high as 3 or 4 for the bots that repeat edit certain pages) and block users with 1 or 2 edits. The real problem there is how to grant those super-powerful abilities without allowing them to lose their mind and go crazy and destroy the wiki. Of course, if we don't catch it early enough there's going to be those IPs that manage to get to six edits, and those will have to be squashed by a full admin. We will also need a way of tagging those spam accounts so when a full admin passes by they will also know to ban the IP address after a spam fighter has deleted all the pages it created.<br /> <br /> ::Finally, we also need a more active bureaucrat so that we don't have to bug Jeff to promote admin's as well as future moderators and/or spam fighters, and recognize bot accounts as bot accounts. We also should find someone knowledgeable to help Jeff (and maybe he has little helpers) to maintain the actual server. I've done some PHP work, but I've never touched anything deep inside a wiki (I like Ruby and Rails much more). This is my first time gaining admin status on a wiki, so I have no idea what the extra dials and levers do/mean. I look up on the MediaWiki manual and Wikipedia help pages things that I think should be possible, and often times pages exist in places about doing these things, but I'm nowhere near being called knowledgeable. After I finish up some IRL work I'm currently tied up in, I intend to set up a VM webserver on my computers and run a mediawiki install so I can learn how to work (and not break) things without putting explain xkcd in jeopardy.<br /> <br /> ::Another really wordy post from, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: From what I know, a moderator user group is possible, but not the spam fighter one. Then again, too many hierarchical levels may be too much for such a small body of regulars. Implementing the moderator group is easy, [[mw:Manual:User rights]] has the details (the &quot;ninja&quot; example and the &quot;list of permissions&quot; section should be enough for putting together the configuration commands to be added to the wiki's LocalSettings.php).<br /> ::: As for bureaucrats, I think it makes sense but it seems to me that Jeff only takes longer to perform changes that affect the server, as they understandably may take longer or be more complex (or break the wiki!). Bureaucrats' only difference from admins is that they can promote/demote other users, and this Jeff has been doing without delay, so perhaps there isn't a need for more bureaucrats at the moment. Please correct me if I'm wrong.<br /> ::: We do need more sysadmins (people with access to the server), though, for sure. This is a little tricky as none of us is comfortable enough to confidently make server changes in a mediawiki install. Jeff, how about putting the wiki in source control and giving two or three people access to it, so that any wrongdoings can be easily reverted? You could setup a git repository in the server and we could fork it locally to our machines, make tests and push the commits to the server repo whenever they're ready. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: This is good stuff. I'm down with promoting more admins for spam fighting. If they screw stuff up we can demote them if necessary. I really haven't found a spam fighting extension that I think will be the best possible solution. I'll keep looking as it may be a combination of things. Server access is much more complicated as it is not even my server and it is shared hosting. I think that would be best to be accessed just by me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Regarding the server, I understand -- your position seems reasonable. In any case, I've been looking for extensions that may help taking some workload out of server actions and make more stuff configurable via the wiki itself. I'll report back if I find something usable.<br /> ::::: On another note, how do you feel about promoting more bureaucrats? I suggest Lcarsos who's been consistently active for the past few months. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally I'd kind of like to go and make some changes myself. Come up with a nice short url pattern and set it up. Upgrade the wiki. etc... [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 02:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The shorter URL is being looked into, although Mediawiki strongly advises against it. As for upgrades to the wiki, monetary donations towards Jeff so he can buy better bit for the server would be appreciated. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 03:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::MediaWiki does not advise against it. Half the code currently running short URLs in core was written by me. Same for the new standard for rewrite rules in the new guides. And the tool to automatically generate the config needed to apply short urls to a wiki. Short URLs are '''not''' advised against.<br /> ::We do however strongly advise against installing a wiki in &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt;. Because you do '''not''' want to create &lt;code&gt;/wiki/$1&lt;/code&gt; style paths while your script path makes scripts look like &lt;code&gt;/wiki/index.php&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::In this case my plan would be to move &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt; to &lt;code&gt;/w&lt;/code&gt; then come up with some other short url pattern like &lt;code&gt;/e/$1&lt;/code&gt;, some other path, or maybe &lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::And setup some 301 redirects to redirect from the old urls to the new ones.<br /> ::And upgrading the version of MediaWiki so that it doesn't have security holes doesn't require server replacement. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 07:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Ohwait, software upgrades. Uh. I knew you were talking about that. Yep. Definitely. The wiki recently had issues with running out of hard drive space, so that was all that was on my mind there.<br /> :::Also, I thought you had been referring to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory this]. Whoop. Well, you could leave Jeff a message at his [[user talk:Jeff|talk page]] to get server access. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:05, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I strongly support this. It's been far too long since we decided we'd want the short url scheme (&lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt; seems like the best option since it would be simpler/cleaner and allow http://explainxkcd/1234 to point to the correct comic without any extra rewrite rules). While you're at it, I'm sure many would appreciate a look at the current situation with image resizing, which doesn't seem to be working for some reason. Installing [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]] would be awesome, too, as well as [[mw:Extension:Contribution Scores|Extension:Contribution Scores]] ([http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Special:ContributionScores live example]). I'll ask Jeff to take a look at this thread. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) email me and I'll get you set up with whatever you need. All the suggestions sound good to me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Also, the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution Scores]] are up. I'm not even top 10 all time, I need to step up my game. Comments will take more work as it needs its own database. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Awesome! I did some styling changes to make it more interesting :) Let me know what you guys think about it! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Holy crud, what did you do when the wiki started to have almost double my lifetime score? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:57, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Hahahah :P I'm pretty sure I cheated a little, IIRC there was an image renaming operation for which I used [http://github.com/btongminh/mwclient mwclient] ;) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sort by numbers in categories ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that in [[:Category:Comics]] all comics are sorted correctly by numbers; but not in any subcategory. (I didn't really get the explanation of how it works on the comics page.) How to fix this? -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;nowiki&gt;The comics template uses a template called num4 that turns the number in the comic number field into a four-digit number. That's then passed as a parameter to the category link, and the comics category page sorts articles by those four-digit numbers instead of their actual names. If we wanted to do the same for other categories, we would have to type them all out as [[Category:Politics|0200]], or whatever the comic number is. I would rather wait for mediawiki to come out with an in-built feature to solve this.&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there a reason that the template applies that directly to [[:Category:Comics]] and not as a default sortkey via DEFAULTSORT? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:10, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Good thinking. Using DEFAULTSORT oughta make it work for all categories. I'll give it a try. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Resize ==<br /> <br /> I haven't been here (to edit) for a while, but have we still not addressed the bug that doesn't allow image resizing? I know most of us don't have access to that kind of lower-level coding on the site, but I think it's a bit of a notable issue that we can't display comics smaller than their actual size. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Take it up with [[User:Jeff]], but I suspect that adding your voice to the already insistent roaring that images are broken isn't going to inspire much change. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incidental Ads ==<br /> <br /> as ive noticed i think you should check if someone has embeded some of your links with ads really annoying please fix<br /> <br /> --[[User:TheWeatherMan|TheWeatherMan]] ([[User talk:TheWeatherMan|talk]]) 14:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)TheWeatherMan<br /> <br /> :Do you have any specific examples of this? By the way, using punctuation, capitalization, spell check, and complete sentences are more likely to get someone to help you. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There is known malware (both adware and viruses) that makes Wikipedia look like it has ads. This wiki uses the same wiki software, so perhaps that malware affects our site too? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==/wiki/==<br /> Now that explainxkcd redirects straight to the wiki, could we take the /wiki/ out of the url? I'd also like the wiki's edit log to be purged to clean out the history and forget about past spam, but that's probably wishing for too much. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But seriously, could the /wiki/ go? It'll screw with the spammers for a day or two, at the very least. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Newbie questions: Comic dates, previous-and-next-comic buttons==<br /> Just created the my first page, [[220: Philosophy]], but I could use a little guidance. How do I find the date that an ''xkcd'' comic was originally posted, and how do I rig up the previous-comic and next-comic arrows on a page? (Actually, I've noticed several pages that should have the arrows but don't.) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Those arrows will automagically insert themselves when you make the adjacent comic explanations. There *is* a little backstage magic that needs to be taken care of, but we can do that for you. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ** OK. How about the dates? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Click on &quot;All Comics&quot; in the navbar on left-hand side of the site. The dates are in the form YYYY-MM-DD. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The comic template checks for the existence of the numerical redirect for the comic before and the comic after. If it finds the page to exist it will display the next/previous button as appropriate. So, by creating the redirects listed on the [[List of all comics]] (third column, only worry about the number and title links) future pages will automatically get the links created. Redirect pages look like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[####: Comic Title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; and that's it ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1143&amp;redirect=no here] is a link to the redirect page with redirect disabled so you can look at the source to see what I'm talking about). That's all that needs to exist on the number and title redirects. If you feel up to creating them yourself, feel free, otherwise someone else goes through occasionally and mass adds all the missing redirects. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Error message ==<br /> <br /> I've been getting this error message a lot the last cup'o days. When trying to access a page; when trying to save changes on a page. Any ideas on why? I'm getting it on both chrome and firefox.<br /> ::Database error<br /> ::A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br /> ::(SQL query hidden) from within function &quot;Revision::insertOn&quot;. Database returned error &quot;1142: INSERT command denied to user ::'dbo423085716'@'74.208.16.155' for :table 'text' (db423085716.db.1and1.com)&quot;.<br /> –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Every once in a while I get a SQL error being reported, but usually I can simply F5 and the page comes up. Every once in a while it seems like the server load is just so that somebody gets lucky enough to see the server error out. I don't think there's much we can do about this, other than move the wiki onto a more powerful server. But, there are no ads on this site, there is no revenue model, just a very kind person paying for hosting that keeps this site up. I'm more than willing to overlook a few hiccups for the continuing availability of explain xkcd. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, I get those too, but St. Nerol was talking about something that happened recently with the server running out of hard drive space and throwing SQL errors every time someone tried to make large edits. I had to find Jeff on twitter because I'd get SQL errors when I tried to edit his talk page. He's looking into history deletion plugins, to clear out our vast archives of deleted spam and obsoleted prototype comic templates. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Install a caching reverse proxy to handle heavy load ==<br /> <br /> According to returned headers, this server runs from Apache directly. I would recommend setting up a reverse caching proxy in front of Apache to handle high traffic load (like, e.g. current load). The one I use is nginx (http://nginx.org/) -- admins, drop me an email if you need help setting it up [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 21:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The standard software to use is either Squid or Varnish. Nginx is a bit too much of a webserver to be configured in the way MW needs iirc. Although nginx would help with serving the static assets. Unfortunately there will be a need to switch to a proper server first. The site seems to be hosted on shared hosting. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 04:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I had gotten burned before with both Squid and Varnish but Nginx had always kept my systems alive. It's extremely lightweight and works great to fix these kinds of problems. But, of course if it's a shared server where you can't use it, it won't help... [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Nginx is a great webserver. It'll serve out static pages much better than Apache. But the issue here isn't the webserver. It's PHP and all the work that the database needs to do on every request. Switching webservers won't get rid of that issue. Using squid/varnish a proper reverse proxying cache will allow complete pages to be cached and served directly to readers bypassing the webserver, php, and the database entirely on some requests. That'll reduce the load the site has to cope with. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 23:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A couple of enwiki features implemented ==<br /> <br /> I have &quot;imported&quot; {{tl|disambig}} and the related [[:Category:Disambiguation pages|category]] for the [[Exoplanets‎‎|one page]] it was needed for (to avoid having a page that was uncategorised :-) ).<br /> <br /> I have also created {{tl|unsigned ip}} (and converted the one use of {{tl|Unsigned}}) and applied it for a handful of existing uses of {{tl|unsigned}}. It hardly matters, but then it's also only three more characters to type for new uses.<br /> <br /> Importantly, however, I implore you to consider including the second datestamp parameter when applying either template -- it's actually the more useful information. I know it's a pain to convert times ''back'' to UTC, but, hey, most of you don't have to deal with a half hour timezone :-) [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 16:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Urrggh, there's an option to make UTC the default display time. The template oughta be a little more automated, mebbe filling the time in automagically with five tildes if no date field is entered? The time will be a bit off when editors fill in the unsigned templates, but it'll be close enough to the actual value. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::No, especially while there's existing templates to adjust, where the &quot;default&quot; datestamp would be way out. If someone wants to fix a lot of the existing usage, setting their timezone to UTC is the simplest option. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 09:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread has been moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading|The proposals board]].''<br /> <br /> == Need password reset ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you all, but I seem to have lost the password to this account and don't have an email set (which requires the password). I'm still logged in thanks to the &quot;remember me&quot; feature but after 30 days I'll lose access. This isn't fixable at the MediaWiki level; someone with access to the server mysql or whatever will need to change something. Is there such a person I can email with? [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 03:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I assume your browser isn't remembering it for you? [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 03:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh wow that was fast. Nope, neither Firefox not OSX keychain access know what it is. [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> : I'm not sure how to solve that problem, but I know account usurpation has been done for the single-login transition in Wikimedia wikis, so technically it should be doable. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Analytics ==<br /> <br /> Recently I found out about WikiApiary, an interesting site that collects analytics from mediawiki wikis. I added explain xkcd. Check the stats that have been collected so far: http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/explain_xkcd --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 00:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;External&quot; hotlinking enabled to confirm issue with other car.jpg ==<br /> <br /> FYI I have [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:External_image_whitelist&amp;oldid=34582 enabled] &quot;external&quot; hotlinking to this wiki's own images to show [[:File:other car.jpg]] can display correctly. See further notes about that issue [[File talk:other car.jpg|here]]. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 14:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If the problem is lack of thumbnail generation, it should display correctly even without hotlinking, simply by using the original size, e.g. [[File:other car.jpg]]. I'm not sure why it doesn't. In any case, this image hotlinking thing reminded me, would it be a good idea to use the images hosted at XKCD.com and only upload variants to the wiki (e.g. those at [[:Category:Helper comic images]]) and images Randall for some reason deleted from the server (e.g. images with typos)? This would reduce the load on the explainxkcd server and provide a better experience for viewers since xkcd is already optimized for high loads and actually openly provides the image urls for hotlinking. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Technical 2013-04-21T15:01:19Z

<p>Waldir: /* &quot;External&quot; hotlinking enabled to confirm issue with other car.jpg */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Changelog ==<br /> <br /> I created this page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've also created [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've changed [[MediaWiki:Helppage]] to point here. If we decide to have a local users manual or help desk, it should probably be changed. The default target was &quot;Help:Contents&quot;. This also changes where the &quot;Help&quot; link in the sidebar points, so right now we have two different sidebar links pointing to the same place. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:30, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Update: I changed it to point to [[mw:Help:Contents|Help:Contents]] at mediawiki.org. The community portal is already linked from the sidebar, it was redundant to have two links there pointing to the same page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I created [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. This is one of the &quot;did I break it&quot;-type changes, so let me know if you notice anything strange. The new pages are made up of excerpts from their Wikipedia counterparts - I copied what I thought was potentially useful and left the rest. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community Portal]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:08, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Sitenotice dismissal ==<br /> <br /> There should be a way to dismiss the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] after you've read it. I know it can be done, but don't know how, does anyone else? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :What do you think about this extension? [[mw:Extension:DismissableSiteNotice|Dismissable Site Notice]] --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes! That's probably what I'm looking for. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Hey,<br /> <br /> You might consider [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments]. It acts basically like the comment system on the blog, so you could keep everything (article, comments) in one place. It's more conducive to casual conversation than the discussion page.<br /> --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 14:07, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :That's nice, but a simpler approach could be just to transclude the talk page in the subject page itself, as is done in the Wikipedia Signpost (see [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-30/Technology report|here]] for an example). --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, that would work. The extension does have its advantages though - it's easier for new users (no markup), you can have upvotes/downvotes/&quot;comments of the day&quot;... It's a matter of preference, I suppose. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 22:27, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Discussion above moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ::: I'll take a look and see what looks best. I don't necessarily like the transcluding option. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Neither do I, to be honest. I just created {{tl|Comic discussion}} to make things a little smoother, but from my experience, there will *always* be newcomers forgetting to sign, commenters confused about the best markup for indentation/replies, comments placed at the top rather than at the bottom, new comic description pages created without that template, etc. A proper commenting solution might be the best option for this. I just mentioned the transclusion option to let people know it was a possibility. Also, in the long run we need to make sure the wiki doesn't start looking like Wikia (blergh) if we start adding too many custom extensions. But a comment extension seems to be essential if we don't want to alienate the blog's community. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Following post moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Comments]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> I'd like to suggest we add comments capabilities to the comics pages, since the discussion pages don't lend themselves to the kind of dialogue experienced on the blog. There appear to be several extensions that allow this, but I'm fairly new to the wikimedia stuff so I'm not sure how it would work, exactly. <br /> <br /> One extension available is [[mw:Extension:WordPress Comments|Extension:WordPress Comments]], which appears to enable the style of comments we are used to. Any thoughts? --[[User:DanB|DanB]] (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : We should definitely give it a try :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: That said, [http://shadowfax.org.uk/wiki/MediaWiki_Wordpress_Comment_Extension_Code its demo] looks rather simple. Extension:Comments seems to be a little more powerful (supporting replies, user pictures, voting, and maybe more). The only advantage of the Wordpress one is that it would integrate with Wordpress so extra accounts don't need to be created, but I assume most people who used to comment on the blog didn't have accounts anyway... --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Tried [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments] - but the download page for it does not exist. Anyone have any ideas why that is? Looks like an extension I'd like to try, but I can't download it! --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Robots.txt ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to set it up, but if you could edit the robots.txt file to exclude the contents of [[:Category:Noindexed pages]]? I've created a [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for people to test the unfamiliar features in, and you're probably not going to want that indexed by the search engines. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Apparently you can edit it through [[MediaWiki:Robots.txt]], but I'm not experienced enough to know what will happen if you block a url that runs through a .php page. (Perhaps nothing? Perhaps it blocks everything?) Is there any chance of moving the wiki to use /wiki/articlename urls like Wikipedia does rather than the current /wiki/index.php?title=articlename ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:43, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: /wiki/articlename would be great. Been trying to figure out how to make it work for days. Let me know if you know how. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> For URL rewritung, have a look at mediawiki.org: [[mw:Manual:Short URL|Short URL]] or for [[mw:Manual:Short URL/Apache|Apache]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:49, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Gadgets? ==<br /> <br /> Can we enable [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Gadgets]]? I'd really like to bring over [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Popups]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:HotCat]] as gadgets. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:45, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :sounds good. I'll do it later this weekend when I get back to my computer to get to the FTP access. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::That'd be great! While you're at it, [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Inputbox]] is something we may want for the future, though we don't need it now. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :: {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: For the record, what was installed was the Gadgets extension (which makes sense since Philosopher said the InputBox is not needed ATM). I had already brought the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js|HotCat gadget]], which should now be visible in the users' preferences for enabling. It was also necessary to create [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] and [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat|the description for HotCat]] so it could appear in the preferences page. However, it doesn't seem to be working... If someone can figure out what's wrong, we can fix it. One can test the script separately from the gadget system (so we can make sure it's not a gadget problem) by installing it as a user script, as I did in [[User:Waldir/common.js]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Nevermind, the guys from the #mediawiki IRC channel helped me figure out what was wrong :) it should be working now and available to all users via the gadgets tab of the preferences page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::: You rule Waldir. The InputBox extension is enabled as well for good measure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 13:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Awesome :D I assume Philosopher will have a few ideas for that (namely the {{tl|Community portal}} template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: Yeah, that's where I found out about it, at least. I may not find time to implement it right away - I'm busy in RL at the moment. In the mean time, I've imported Popups from en.wikipedia. I haven't edited out the references to Wikipedia in it b/c I'm not quite sure which of them will break things or what to replace them with. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wordpress Import ==<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Wordpress Import]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Anyone have any idea on how to import all of my posts from Wordpress into pages in the wiki? I can do it manually obviously, but I'd love to do it programatically. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> : I also realize that I won't be importing ALL the posts, just the ones that don't already have pages in the wiki already created. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] said ([[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Adding a new comic|here]]): ''When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically.'' He's speaking about importing and creating pages for all comics programmatically. I don't know if he includes the explanations from your blog posts, though...<br /> :Also, do you think it could be a good idea to import, in the comic discussions here, the comments existing in the wordpress blog for comics prior to the wiki conversion? They obviously wouldn't be associated with wiki accounts, but we could get a copy of them here (with the dates, names, and also the +/- comment appreciation maybe...). Perhaps this could be considered once the idea of wordpress comments on wiki pages (as suggested [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Technical#Comments|here]] by [[User:DanB|DanB]]) is already settled.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I don't think I can import blog posts completely automatically, but maybe write something to make it easier. I'll have to look what is possible, but I'd say the least I'll need is an account for Wordpress.<br /> :: Importing comments is similar: No promises, but probably difficult if not impossible. I'll have to see the comment system in the wiki. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Importing all previous blog comments would be awesome. We could try a test installation of wordpress and a few test pages here on the wiki (it's easy to delete them if we screw up anything). In any case, I expect some manual tweaking to be needed if we want to convert the comments already posted on-wiki into comments of the wordpress plugin. It's definitely a challenge, but after all, we're xkcd readers, by definition we enjoy a good puzzle :) (and many of us are perfectionists who won't settle for a less-than-perfect solution :D). I say let's hack the heck outta that extension! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Sorry to the perfectionists, but regarding a less-than-perfect solution, could we include a link to the blog comments as a temporary stopgap? I've been using [[1004:_Batman]] to try my hand at adding a comic, and I added a subtle link to the blog comments below the discussion box/transmutation. I'm thinking that link could be added programatically because we know how the blog structure is with year/month/date foldering. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 17:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Yes, it can be automatically generated by the {{tl|comic}} template. [[User:TheHYPO]] should be able do do it. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automation ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Automation]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> This wiki lacks automation, every time a comic comes out it needs to be submitted manually. A really simple way to do this is utilize xkcd's own JSON feed.<br /> http://xkcd.com/json.html<br /> If you download the latest comic json feed and edit it in notepad, you find all sorts of useful data like a complete transcript of the comic. --[[User:Jtorba|Jtorba]] ([[User talk:Jtorba|talk]]) 14:28, 7 August 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Outage ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Miscellaneous]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Just experienced the following navigating the site...<br /> <br /> Internal Server Error<br /> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to <br /> complete your request.<br /> <br /> Please contact the server administrator, webadmin@kundenserver.de and inform <br /> them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that <br /> may have caused the error.<br /> <br /> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.<br /> <br /> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an <br /> ErrorDocument to handle the request.<br /> <br /> Very strange, and not able to repro it, so it seems to have been transient. Just noting it here in case it happens again. I assume this is a hosting company hiccup.<br /> <br /> BTW, while researching the above, I noticed that the ''explainxkcd.com'' domain registration expires in 3 days (August 10)... hopefully the bill has been paid; I'd hate for this site to go down; Grace Period and Redemption are a PITA... -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :over the past week, I've gotten a few of those Internal Server Errors at random. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Not sure what is up with them, but I've gotten some as well. It is either me messing with the site or the server creaking under pressure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Could be the pressure... I've been getting a few randomly and the site every now and then gets quite slow. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#References]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Can we install the &quot;references&quot; plugin so that we can use &quot;ref&quot; tags and add &quot;references&quot; sections to certain comics? I grant that it won't be as useful as on wikipedia, as most references are generally just wikilinks to wikipedia anyway, but I think it could be helpful. In editing the [[Black Hat]] article, I wanted to cite references to specific comics. I had to write them into the text because references aren't installed. If References do get installed, I'd like to also suggest a template for {{tl|cite comic}} to create a quick and easy uniform reference to comics by number (or perhaps by name at the user's option?) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Do you have a link for the References plugin? I searched quickly on MediaWiki's site and didn't see anything. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php Cite extension]<br /> :::It defaults (I believe) to citing in a 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 style; there's SOMETHING That lets you change it to the more familiar wikipedia 'a' 'b' 'c' style, which is easier to read, imo. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: qv the existing &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, which generate links to a specific xkcd comic, or the corresponding explanation here, respectively; to wit, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produce {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}}, the latter could also be used this way: {{explain|29: Hitler}}. Either could also become {{xkcd|29|the first comic in which Black Hat appears}} or {{explain|29|Black Hat's first appearance}}. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mainpage category issues ==<br /> <br /> Waldir already did some repairs to the {{tl|comic}} template to keep it from sorting the [[Main Page]] into categories when the template is transcluded on the main page, but I see that other manual categorizations are still being transcluded (eg: the main page is currently categorized into [[:category:Comics featuring Cueball]]. Is there a way to include the article without including its categories at all? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :That doesn't seem to be related to the {{tl|comic}} template. Apparently the categories added manually to the comic page are getting to the main page. We can, for now, wrap them in noinclude tags. Maybe later we should create a {{tl|category}} template that does that automatically. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::I noted in that you'd already fixed the comic template. As I said, these were the &quot;other manual categorizations&quot;. Noinclude would work, I suppose, but I do think we need to somehow fix that if the entire article is going to be included on the main page. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issues ==<br /> <br /> I seem to be seeing some caching issues with images. I can't be sure if this will still be in effect by the time anyone reads this, but at the time of writing, [[:File:United Shapes.png]], for example, is still displaying as an older revision (even though it correctly states the filesize and resolution of the current version). Viewing the &quot;full sized image&quot; ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png]) still displays that older revision, as well. However, if you add a question mark to the end of the full sized URL ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png?]), the image is correctly purged and displays the correct image (although only with that URL, not on the file page nor where the image is transcluded). In other words, there's a caching issue.<br /> <br /> I used to edit on some Wikia sites where they also had this issue, and it drove all the editors up the wall (particularly since it ended up affecting a good portion of images when updated, sometimes for as long as several hours). It was frankly quite frustrating when Wikia refused to do anything about that problem (part of the reason I don't edit there anymore). Is there any chance someone could look into this issue? I'm not sure what entirely causes it. {{User:Omega/sig}} 01:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aaaaand the image is updated (so the above example won't work anymore). The images definitely seem to be updating, but it's rather slow: at least a few minutes... {{User:Omega/sig}} 02:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think it might have to do with the [[mw:Manual:Job queue#HTML cache invalidation|Job queue]]. If that's the case, such updates will gradually happen as edits are made to other pages (each edit takes a job from the queue and runs it). But I'm not entirely sure that's what's at play here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Related issue?===<br /> Don't know if this is related, but I'm noticing that thumbnails are displaying as red X's on alot of images - especially where I've noticed that editors have corrected the image title to lowercase in an article. One example is [[file:t-shirts]] and [[T-shirts]] - the thumbnails for the image history on the image page itself are Xs for me, as is the actualy comic on its comic page, which was at a reduced size. This isn't the only comic doing this. [[Hitler]] is as well, for example. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Creating new comics ==<br /> <br /> I'm a big fan of [[List of all comics]] which I think is a great page and resource. Problem is, at least for me, the &quot;create&quot; button isn't working like it should. It's not preloading the {{tl|create}} template as a starting template. If someone has time to take a look at that issue, I think it's a great idea. Is there any way that the preload could also somehow be passed the comic number, image name and comic name so the user doesn't have to reenter those? We should look into this. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Ditto. There are a few refinements that I think could be made, though.<br /> :* It's huge, taking a lot of time to load (tables tend to do that, I suppose) so perhaps breaking it into groups, even if it's on the same page (that is, separate tables for each hundred or fraction thereof) Breaking each into sections would allow a TOC for rapid navigation, too.<br /> :* While it might be innocuous, the (create) link isn't needed for anything that isn't redlinked, so maybe an #ifexist, for when the pages do get created, the create no longer appears.<br /> :Just thotz. Otherwise, it's a really useful page, both for visitors, and gnomes. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The create link only appears on redlinked pages for me already. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:45, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == short URLs ==<br /> <br /> Hi, you should try to enable short URLs, which remove the ugly index.php from every URL. It makes navigation more intuitive and &quot;wiki-style&quot;. It's actually quite easy to do: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL]<br /> <br /> (Oh, and by the way, would you add WikiEditor? It's so beautiful :) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor])<br /> <br /> == Scaled Images ==<br /> <br /> Some of the larger comics are being scaled down to 800px wide. But MediaWiki apparently wants a discrete image rather than scaling what's been uploaded. Is there a plan to fix this? I hope I posted to the right section [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Can you provide an article as an example, because I'm not sure what you mean here. What I ''have'' noticed lately, and maybe this is the same thing you're talking about is that ''any'' scaled image is not displaying and I'm not sure what the error is.<br /> <br /> [[file:Cueball.png|50px|right]]<br /> For Example:<br /> <br /> : The image links to [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/thumb/4/46/Cueball.png/50px-Cueball.png], which gives a 404. Maybe this is related to [[#short URLs]]? --[[Special:Contributions/83.243.48.2|83.243.48.2]] 06:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::When I first started posting comics, the scaling worked; so something changed to break the images. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I'll start building a list here of them as I go through. Feel free to strike out the ones that fix themselves or get fixed.<br /> :* [[1040: Lakes and Oceans]]<br /> :* [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> :* [[1080: Visual Field]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_2.png]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_small.png]]<br /> :* Basically, anything that's been scaled down, whether automatically by the wiki software (usually on File pages), or by people putting in widths into the comic template on comic pages so the images aren't obnoxiously large.<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Right - so this is the same problem. Basically resized images are no longer working properly for some reason... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images_and_other_uploaded_files#Thumbnails_not_being_created Here is a mediawiki discussion] on this same (appraently) issue. And [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki_1.19#Thumbnails_didn.27t_work_since_Update_to_1.19_15046 this is a mediawiki bug report thread] that has at least one link to a patch. Perhaps someone in management can attempt to impliment some of the proposed solutions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issue with pages ==<br /> <br /> I'm noticing that aside from the image scaling issue (that I really hope someone is working on), I'm noticing that pages appear to be caching - I edited the latest article but my edits don't immediately show on the main page where that article is transcluded (as of this writing, I still see dead links on the mainpage to &quot;Comics featuring Beret Guy&quot; &quot;Comics featuring Ponytail&quot; because I forgot to add &quot;Category:&quot; to the wiki tag, even though I've already fixed the error in the article. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Math extension ==<br /> <br /> [[:mw:Extension:Math|Extension:Math]] for mathematical formulas in &quot;Transcript&quot; sections (see [[385]] or [[870]]). --[[User:Valepert|valepert]] ([[User talk:Valepert|talk]]) 04:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External Link ==<br /> <br /> The little image that is usually there to indicate an external link is not appear on some pages:<br /> <br /> + Home Page&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Community Portal&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Etc&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Probably a permissions issue. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Spam template add noindex ==<br /> <br /> Can the spam template be modified to also tag the pages as [[:Category:Noindexed pages]] so that passing search engine robots don't think we're promoting those sites? I haven't leveled up enough in wiki-knowledge to be smart enough to do that on my own. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Apologies if this is already implemented, but just add &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;__NOINDEX__&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; to the template page. That's assuming the robots.txt for this website is set up to accept instructions from the wiki, of course. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 07:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Change &quot;Discussion&quot; to &quot;Talk&quot; ==<br /> <br /> It seems we've borrowed a number of templates and other settings that refer to &quot;T&quot; or &quot;talk&quot; for what is still called &quot;Discussion&quot; here. I suggest it is changed to &quot;Talk&quot; now, rather than change the references back to &quot;D&quot; and &quot;discussion&quot;. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New comic template: ==<br /> <br /> [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Edit_toolbar this guy] has indicated that he has &quot;added some interesting features to my toolbar, including adding a page template as a button&quot; - it would be great to Add the {{tl|create}} template code as a quick clickable button to insert when creating a new page for new comics... Can anyone with admin access to the site code add such a button?? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xkcd icon ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone see the icon next to xkcd.com links? I just see a blank space. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I cannot, and as far as I know, no one else can. I suspect that this is related to the image resizing bug that we are also dealing with. But, as no one is working on that, there will not be a fix for this either in the near (or indeed the foreseeable) future. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: We could simply remove it. I mean, was it that useful anyway? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Actually, it wasn't related to the image scaling problem. It turns out the direct link at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] was outdated. I just fixed that :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We need more maintainers ==<br /> <br /> :''I'm moving a thread that Davidy22 started on my talk page. The gist is, we need more people with server-side access (especially mediawiki-savvy ones) so we can properly deal with several issues that have been plaguing the wiki for a while now, most notably spam, but also the image scaling problem, a possible extension for proper comments, clean urls, etc. Below is the original thread, please comment.'' --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could you set the permissions so that all anon users have to pass a captcha to edit? The spam has gotten obscene, and they've stopped posting links, so our current detection mechanisms aren't working anymore. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would love to have the ability to tweak the wiki more thoroughly, but currently Jeff's the only one with server access. To be honest, I am not terribly familiar with server-side mediawiki management, so I haven't asked Jeff for access, but it's clear we can't be dependent on a single person to do all the mediawiki config (and Jeff probably knows even less about mediawiki than I do). Are you by any chance acquainted with server-side mediawiki maintenance? I think we could present a good case for having someone else with access to a dev/prototype instance of this wiki on Jeff's server so we could at least experiment and tell him exactly what needs to be done. Thoughts? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that we need more people that are empowered to actively fight spam. I think that we ought to promote Davidy22 to administrator also, so that he can delete pages and block spammers/vandals as he notices them rather than letting them pile up until yourself, IronyChef, or myself notice that there's work that needs done.<br /> <br /> ::What I think we should do is break out rights into more groups than simply administrator and bureaucrat. I think that's too big of a jump, and that there should be some gradiation. I think we should add a moderator (mark pages as patrolled and rollback ability (as much as it's a sledgehammer when you really only need a ball-peen hammer)) position.<br /> <br /> ::I think we also need a spam fighter position, but that might not be possible to implement. It should be a position that allows the person to delete pages with 1 or 2 edits (page creation, marked as spam, maybe as high as 3 or 4 for the bots that repeat edit certain pages) and block users with 1 or 2 edits. The real problem there is how to grant those super-powerful abilities without allowing them to lose their mind and go crazy and destroy the wiki. Of course, if we don't catch it early enough there's going to be those IPs that manage to get to six edits, and those will have to be squashed by a full admin. We will also need a way of tagging those spam accounts so when a full admin passes by they will also know to ban the IP address after a spam fighter has deleted all the pages it created.<br /> <br /> ::Finally, we also need a more active bureaucrat so that we don't have to bug Jeff to promote admin's as well as future moderators and/or spam fighters, and recognize bot accounts as bot accounts. We also should find someone knowledgeable to help Jeff (and maybe he has little helpers) to maintain the actual server. I've done some PHP work, but I've never touched anything deep inside a wiki (I like Ruby and Rails much more). This is my first time gaining admin status on a wiki, so I have no idea what the extra dials and levers do/mean. I look up on the MediaWiki manual and Wikipedia help pages things that I think should be possible, and often times pages exist in places about doing these things, but I'm nowhere near being called knowledgeable. After I finish up some IRL work I'm currently tied up in, I intend to set up a VM webserver on my computers and run a mediawiki install so I can learn how to work (and not break) things without putting explain xkcd in jeopardy.<br /> <br /> ::Another really wordy post from, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: From what I know, a moderator user group is possible, but not the spam fighter one. Then again, too many hierarchical levels may be too much for such a small body of regulars. Implementing the moderator group is easy, [[mw:Manual:User rights]] has the details (the &quot;ninja&quot; example and the &quot;list of permissions&quot; section should be enough for putting together the configuration commands to be added to the wiki's LocalSettings.php).<br /> ::: As for bureaucrats, I think it makes sense but it seems to me that Jeff only takes longer to perform changes that affect the server, as they understandably may take longer or be more complex (or break the wiki!). Bureaucrats' only difference from admins is that they can promote/demote other users, and this Jeff has been doing without delay, so perhaps there isn't a need for more bureaucrats at the moment. Please correct me if I'm wrong.<br /> ::: We do need more sysadmins (people with access to the server), though, for sure. This is a little tricky as none of us is comfortable enough to confidently make server changes in a mediawiki install. Jeff, how about putting the wiki in source control and giving two or three people access to it, so that any wrongdoings can be easily reverted? You could setup a git repository in the server and we could fork it locally to our machines, make tests and push the commits to the server repo whenever they're ready. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: This is good stuff. I'm down with promoting more admins for spam fighting. If they screw stuff up we can demote them if necessary. I really haven't found a spam fighting extension that I think will be the best possible solution. I'll keep looking as it may be a combination of things. Server access is much more complicated as it is not even my server and it is shared hosting. I think that would be best to be accessed just by me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Regarding the server, I understand -- your position seems reasonable. In any case, I've been looking for extensions that may help taking some workload out of server actions and make more stuff configurable via the wiki itself. I'll report back if I find something usable.<br /> ::::: On another note, how do you feel about promoting more bureaucrats? I suggest Lcarsos who's been consistently active for the past few months. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally I'd kind of like to go and make some changes myself. Come up with a nice short url pattern and set it up. Upgrade the wiki. etc... [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 02:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The shorter URL is being looked into, although Mediawiki strongly advises against it. As for upgrades to the wiki, monetary donations towards Jeff so he can buy better bit for the server would be appreciated. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 03:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::MediaWiki does not advise against it. Half the code currently running short URLs in core was written by me. Same for the new standard for rewrite rules in the new guides. And the tool to automatically generate the config needed to apply short urls to a wiki. Short URLs are '''not''' advised against.<br /> ::We do however strongly advise against installing a wiki in &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt;. Because you do '''not''' want to create &lt;code&gt;/wiki/$1&lt;/code&gt; style paths while your script path makes scripts look like &lt;code&gt;/wiki/index.php&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::In this case my plan would be to move &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt; to &lt;code&gt;/w&lt;/code&gt; then come up with some other short url pattern like &lt;code&gt;/e/$1&lt;/code&gt;, some other path, or maybe &lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::And setup some 301 redirects to redirect from the old urls to the new ones.<br /> ::And upgrading the version of MediaWiki so that it doesn't have security holes doesn't require server replacement. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 07:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Ohwait, software upgrades. Uh. I knew you were talking about that. Yep. Definitely. The wiki recently had issues with running out of hard drive space, so that was all that was on my mind there.<br /> :::Also, I thought you had been referring to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory this]. Whoop. Well, you could leave Jeff a message at his [[user talk:Jeff|talk page]] to get server access. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:05, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I strongly support this. It's been far too long since we decided we'd want the short url scheme (&lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt; seems like the best option since it would be simpler/cleaner and allow http://explainxkcd/1234 to point to the correct comic without any extra rewrite rules). While you're at it, I'm sure many would appreciate a look at the current situation with image resizing, which doesn't seem to be working for some reason. Installing [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]] would be awesome, too, as well as [[mw:Extension:Contribution Scores|Extension:Contribution Scores]] ([http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Special:ContributionScores live example]). I'll ask Jeff to take a look at this thread. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) email me and I'll get you set up with whatever you need. All the suggestions sound good to me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Also, the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution Scores]] are up. I'm not even top 10 all time, I need to step up my game. Comments will take more work as it needs its own database. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Awesome! I did some styling changes to make it more interesting :) Let me know what you guys think about it! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Holy crud, what did you do when the wiki started to have almost double my lifetime score? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:57, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Hahahah :P I'm pretty sure I cheated a little, IIRC there was an image renaming operation for which I used [http://github.com/btongminh/mwclient mwclient] ;) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sort by numbers in categories ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that in [[:Category:Comics]] all comics are sorted correctly by numbers; but not in any subcategory. (I didn't really get the explanation of how it works on the comics page.) How to fix this? -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;nowiki&gt;The comics template uses a template called num4 that turns the number in the comic number field into a four-digit number. That's then passed as a parameter to the category link, and the comics category page sorts articles by those four-digit numbers instead of their actual names. If we wanted to do the same for other categories, we would have to type them all out as [[Category:Politics|0200]], or whatever the comic number is. I would rather wait for mediawiki to come out with an in-built feature to solve this.&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there a reason that the template applies that directly to [[:Category:Comics]] and not as a default sortkey via DEFAULTSORT? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:10, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Good thinking. Using DEFAULTSORT oughta make it work for all categories. I'll give it a try. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Resize ==<br /> <br /> I haven't been here (to edit) for a while, but have we still not addressed the bug that doesn't allow image resizing? I know most of us don't have access to that kind of lower-level coding on the site, but I think it's a bit of a notable issue that we can't display comics smaller than their actual size. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Take it up with [[User:Jeff]], but I suspect that adding your voice to the already insistent roaring that images are broken isn't going to inspire much change. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incidental Ads ==<br /> <br /> as ive noticed i think you should check if someone has embeded some of your links with ads really annoying please fix<br /> <br /> --[[User:TheWeatherMan|TheWeatherMan]] ([[User talk:TheWeatherMan|talk]]) 14:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)TheWeatherMan<br /> <br /> :Do you have any specific examples of this? By the way, using punctuation, capitalization, spell check, and complete sentences are more likely to get someone to help you. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There is known malware (both adware and viruses) that makes Wikipedia look like it has ads. This wiki uses the same wiki software, so perhaps that malware affects our site too? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==/wiki/==<br /> Now that explainxkcd redirects straight to the wiki, could we take the /wiki/ out of the url? I'd also like the wiki's edit log to be purged to clean out the history and forget about past spam, but that's probably wishing for too much. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But seriously, could the /wiki/ go? It'll screw with the spammers for a day or two, at the very least. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Newbie questions: Comic dates, previous-and-next-comic buttons==<br /> Just created the my first page, [[220: Philosophy]], but I could use a little guidance. How do I find the date that an ''xkcd'' comic was originally posted, and how do I rig up the previous-comic and next-comic arrows on a page? (Actually, I've noticed several pages that should have the arrows but don't.) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Those arrows will automagically insert themselves when you make the adjacent comic explanations. There *is* a little backstage magic that needs to be taken care of, but we can do that for you. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ** OK. How about the dates? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Click on &quot;All Comics&quot; in the navbar on left-hand side of the site. The dates are in the form YYYY-MM-DD. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The comic template checks for the existence of the numerical redirect for the comic before and the comic after. If it finds the page to exist it will display the next/previous button as appropriate. So, by creating the redirects listed on the [[List of all comics]] (third column, only worry about the number and title links) future pages will automatically get the links created. Redirect pages look like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[####: Comic Title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; and that's it ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1143&amp;redirect=no here] is a link to the redirect page with redirect disabled so you can look at the source to see what I'm talking about). That's all that needs to exist on the number and title redirects. If you feel up to creating them yourself, feel free, otherwise someone else goes through occasionally and mass adds all the missing redirects. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Error message ==<br /> <br /> I've been getting this error message a lot the last cup'o days. When trying to access a page; when trying to save changes on a page. Any ideas on why? I'm getting it on both chrome and firefox.<br /> ::Database error<br /> ::A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br /> ::(SQL query hidden) from within function &quot;Revision::insertOn&quot;. Database returned error &quot;1142: INSERT command denied to user ::'dbo423085716'@'74.208.16.155' for :table 'text' (db423085716.db.1and1.com)&quot;.<br /> –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Every once in a while I get a SQL error being reported, but usually I can simply F5 and the page comes up. Every once in a while it seems like the server load is just so that somebody gets lucky enough to see the server error out. I don't think there's much we can do about this, other than move the wiki onto a more powerful server. But, there are no ads on this site, there is no revenue model, just a very kind person paying for hosting that keeps this site up. I'm more than willing to overlook a few hiccups for the continuing availability of explain xkcd. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, I get those too, but St. Nerol was talking about something that happened recently with the server running out of hard drive space and throwing SQL errors every time someone tried to make large edits. I had to find Jeff on twitter because I'd get SQL errors when I tried to edit his talk page. He's looking into history deletion plugins, to clear out our vast archives of deleted spam and obsoleted prototype comic templates. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Install a caching reverse proxy to handle heavy load ==<br /> <br /> According to returned headers, this server runs from Apache directly. I would recommend setting up a reverse caching proxy in front of Apache to handle high traffic load (like, e.g. current load). The one I use is nginx (http://nginx.org/) -- admins, drop me an email if you need help setting it up [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 21:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The standard software to use is either Squid or Varnish. Nginx is a bit too much of a webserver to be configured in the way MW needs iirc. Although nginx would help with serving the static assets. Unfortunately there will be a need to switch to a proper server first. The site seems to be hosted on shared hosting. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 04:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I had gotten burned before with both Squid and Varnish but Nginx had always kept my systems alive. It's extremely lightweight and works great to fix these kinds of problems. But, of course if it's a shared server where you can't use it, it won't help... [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Nginx is a great webserver. It'll serve out static pages much better than Apache. But the issue here isn't the webserver. It's PHP and all the work that the database needs to do on every request. Switching webservers won't get rid of that issue. Using squid/varnish a proper reverse proxying cache will allow complete pages to be cached and served directly to readers bypassing the webserver, php, and the database entirely on some requests. That'll reduce the load the site has to cope with. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 23:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A couple of enwiki features implemented ==<br /> <br /> I have &quot;imported&quot; {{tl|disambig}} and the related [[:Category:Disambiguation pages|category]] for the [[Exoplanets‎‎|one page]] it was needed for (to avoid having a page that was uncategorised :-) ).<br /> <br /> I have also created {{tl|unsigned ip}} (and converted the one use of {{tl|Unsigned}}) and applied it for a handful of existing uses of {{tl|unsigned}}. It hardly matters, but then it's also only three more characters to type for new uses.<br /> <br /> Importantly, however, I implore you to consider including the second datestamp parameter when applying either template -- it's actually the more useful information. I know it's a pain to convert times ''back'' to UTC, but, hey, most of you don't have to deal with a half hour timezone :-) [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 16:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Urrggh, there's an option to make UTC the default display time. The template oughta be a little more automated, mebbe filling the time in automagically with five tildes if no date field is entered? The time will be a bit off when editors fill in the unsigned templates, but it'll be close enough to the actual value. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::No, especially while there's existing templates to adjust, where the &quot;default&quot; datestamp would be way out. If someone wants to fix a lot of the existing usage, setting their timezone to UTC is the simplest option. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 09:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread has been moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading|The proposals board]].''<br /> <br /> == Need password reset ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you all, but I seem to have lost the password to this account and don't have an email set (which requires the password). I'm still logged in thanks to the &quot;remember me&quot; feature but after 30 days I'll lose access. This isn't fixable at the MediaWiki level; someone with access to the server mysql or whatever will need to change something. Is there such a person I can email with? [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 03:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I assume your browser isn't remembering it for you? [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 03:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh wow that was fast. Nope, neither Firefox not OSX keychain access know what it is. [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> : I'm not sure how to solve that problem, but I know account usurpation has been done for the single-login transition in Wikimedia wikis, so technically it should be doable. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Analytics ==<br /> <br /> Recently I found out about WikiApiary, an interesting site that collects analytics from mediawiki wikis. I added explain xkcd. Check the stats that have been collected so far: http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/explain_xkcd --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 00:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;External&quot; hotlinking enabled to confirm issue with other car.jpg ==<br /> <br /> FYI I have [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:External_image_whitelist&amp;oldid=34582 enabled] &quot;external&quot; hotlinking to this wiki's own images to show [[:File:other car.jpg]] can display correctly. See further notes about that issue [[File talk:other car.jpg|here]]. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 14:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If the problem is lack of thumbnail generation, it should display correctly even without hotlinking, simply by using the original size, e.g. [[File:other car.jpg]]. I'm not sure why it doesn't. In any case, this image hotlinking thing reminded me, would it be a good idea to use the images hosted at XKCD.com and only upload variants to the wiki (e.g. those at [[:Category:Helper comic images]]) and images Randall for some reason deleted from the server (e.g. images with typos). This would reduce the load on the explainxkcd server and provide a better experience for viewers since xkcd is already optimized for high loads and actually openly provides the image urls for hotlinking. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Technical 2013-04-17T00:03:46Z

<p>Waldir: /* Analytics */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Changelog ==<br /> <br /> I created this page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've also created [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've changed [[MediaWiki:Helppage]] to point here. If we decide to have a local users manual or help desk, it should probably be changed. The default target was &quot;Help:Contents&quot;. This also changes where the &quot;Help&quot; link in the sidebar points, so right now we have two different sidebar links pointing to the same place. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:30, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Update: I changed it to point to [[mw:Help:Contents|Help:Contents]] at mediawiki.org. The community portal is already linked from the sidebar, it was redundant to have two links there pointing to the same page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I created [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. This is one of the &quot;did I break it&quot;-type changes, so let me know if you notice anything strange. The new pages are made up of excerpts from their Wikipedia counterparts - I copied what I thought was potentially useful and left the rest. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community Portal]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:08, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Sitenotice dismissal ==<br /> <br /> There should be a way to dismiss the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] after you've read it. I know it can be done, but don't know how, does anyone else? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :What do you think about this extension? [[mw:Extension:DismissableSiteNotice|Dismissable Site Notice]] --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes! That's probably what I'm looking for. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Hey,<br /> <br /> You might consider [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments]. It acts basically like the comment system on the blog, so you could keep everything (article, comments) in one place. It's more conducive to casual conversation than the discussion page.<br /> --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 14:07, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :That's nice, but a simpler approach could be just to transclude the talk page in the subject page itself, as is done in the Wikipedia Signpost (see [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-30/Technology report|here]] for an example). --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, that would work. The extension does have its advantages though - it's easier for new users (no markup), you can have upvotes/downvotes/&quot;comments of the day&quot;... It's a matter of preference, I suppose. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 22:27, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Discussion above moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ::: I'll take a look and see what looks best. I don't necessarily like the transcluding option. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Neither do I, to be honest. I just created {{tl|Comic discussion}} to make things a little smoother, but from my experience, there will *always* be newcomers forgetting to sign, commenters confused about the best markup for indentation/replies, comments placed at the top rather than at the bottom, new comic description pages created without that template, etc. A proper commenting solution might be the best option for this. I just mentioned the transclusion option to let people know it was a possibility. Also, in the long run we need to make sure the wiki doesn't start looking like Wikia (blergh) if we start adding too many custom extensions. But a comment extension seems to be essential if we don't want to alienate the blog's community. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Following post moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Comments]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> I'd like to suggest we add comments capabilities to the comics pages, since the discussion pages don't lend themselves to the kind of dialogue experienced on the blog. There appear to be several extensions that allow this, but I'm fairly new to the wikimedia stuff so I'm not sure how it would work, exactly. <br /> <br /> One extension available is [[mw:Extension:WordPress Comments|Extension:WordPress Comments]], which appears to enable the style of comments we are used to. Any thoughts? --[[User:DanB|DanB]] (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : We should definitely give it a try :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: That said, [http://shadowfax.org.uk/wiki/MediaWiki_Wordpress_Comment_Extension_Code its demo] looks rather simple. Extension:Comments seems to be a little more powerful (supporting replies, user pictures, voting, and maybe more). The only advantage of the Wordpress one is that it would integrate with Wordpress so extra accounts don't need to be created, but I assume most people who used to comment on the blog didn't have accounts anyway... --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Tried [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments] - but the download page for it does not exist. Anyone have any ideas why that is? Looks like an extension I'd like to try, but I can't download it! --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Robots.txt ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to set it up, but if you could edit the robots.txt file to exclude the contents of [[:Category:Noindexed pages]]? I've created a [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for people to test the unfamiliar features in, and you're probably not going to want that indexed by the search engines. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Apparently you can edit it through [[MediaWiki:Robots.txt]], but I'm not experienced enough to know what will happen if you block a url that runs through a .php page. (Perhaps nothing? Perhaps it blocks everything?) Is there any chance of moving the wiki to use /wiki/articlename urls like Wikipedia does rather than the current /wiki/index.php?title=articlename ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:43, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: /wiki/articlename would be great. Been trying to figure out how to make it work for days. Let me know if you know how. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> For URL rewritung, have a look at mediawiki.org: [[mw:Manual:Short URL|Short URL]] or for [[mw:Manual:Short URL/Apache|Apache]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:49, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Gadgets? ==<br /> <br /> Can we enable [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Gadgets]]? I'd really like to bring over [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Popups]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:HotCat]] as gadgets. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:45, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :sounds good. I'll do it later this weekend when I get back to my computer to get to the FTP access. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::That'd be great! While you're at it, [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Inputbox]] is something we may want for the future, though we don't need it now. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :: {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: For the record, what was installed was the Gadgets extension (which makes sense since Philosopher said the InputBox is not needed ATM). I had already brought the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js|HotCat gadget]], which should now be visible in the users' preferences for enabling. It was also necessary to create [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] and [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat|the description for HotCat]] so it could appear in the preferences page. However, it doesn't seem to be working... If someone can figure out what's wrong, we can fix it. One can test the script separately from the gadget system (so we can make sure it's not a gadget problem) by installing it as a user script, as I did in [[User:Waldir/common.js]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Nevermind, the guys from the #mediawiki IRC channel helped me figure out what was wrong :) it should be working now and available to all users via the gadgets tab of the preferences page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::: You rule Waldir. The InputBox extension is enabled as well for good measure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 13:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Awesome :D I assume Philosopher will have a few ideas for that (namely the {{tl|Community portal}} template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: Yeah, that's where I found out about it, at least. I may not find time to implement it right away - I'm busy in RL at the moment. In the mean time, I've imported Popups from en.wikipedia. I haven't edited out the references to Wikipedia in it b/c I'm not quite sure which of them will break things or what to replace them with. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wordpress Import ==<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Wordpress Import]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Anyone have any idea on how to import all of my posts from Wordpress into pages in the wiki? I can do it manually obviously, but I'd love to do it programatically. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> : I also realize that I won't be importing ALL the posts, just the ones that don't already have pages in the wiki already created. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] said ([[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Adding a new comic|here]]): ''When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically.'' He's speaking about importing and creating pages for all comics programmatically. I don't know if he includes the explanations from your blog posts, though...<br /> :Also, do you think it could be a good idea to import, in the comic discussions here, the comments existing in the wordpress blog for comics prior to the wiki conversion? They obviously wouldn't be associated with wiki accounts, but we could get a copy of them here (with the dates, names, and also the +/- comment appreciation maybe...). Perhaps this could be considered once the idea of wordpress comments on wiki pages (as suggested [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Technical#Comments|here]] by [[User:DanB|DanB]]) is already settled.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I don't think I can import blog posts completely automatically, but maybe write something to make it easier. I'll have to look what is possible, but I'd say the least I'll need is an account for Wordpress.<br /> :: Importing comments is similar: No promises, but probably difficult if not impossible. I'll have to see the comment system in the wiki. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Importing all previous blog comments would be awesome. We could try a test installation of wordpress and a few test pages here on the wiki (it's easy to delete them if we screw up anything). In any case, I expect some manual tweaking to be needed if we want to convert the comments already posted on-wiki into comments of the wordpress plugin. It's definitely a challenge, but after all, we're xkcd readers, by definition we enjoy a good puzzle :) (and many of us are perfectionists who won't settle for a less-than-perfect solution :D). I say let's hack the heck outta that extension! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Sorry to the perfectionists, but regarding a less-than-perfect solution, could we include a link to the blog comments as a temporary stopgap? I've been using [[1004:_Batman]] to try my hand at adding a comic, and I added a subtle link to the blog comments below the discussion box/transmutation. I'm thinking that link could be added programatically because we know how the blog structure is with year/month/date foldering. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 17:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Yes, it can be automatically generated by the {{tl|comic}} template. [[User:TheHYPO]] should be able do do it. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automation ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Automation]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> This wiki lacks automation, every time a comic comes out it needs to be submitted manually. A really simple way to do this is utilize xkcd's own JSON feed.<br /> http://xkcd.com/json.html<br /> If you download the latest comic json feed and edit it in notepad, you find all sorts of useful data like a complete transcript of the comic. --[[User:Jtorba|Jtorba]] ([[User talk:Jtorba|talk]]) 14:28, 7 August 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Outage ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Miscellaneous]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Just experienced the following navigating the site...<br /> <br /> Internal Server Error<br /> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to <br /> complete your request.<br /> <br /> Please contact the server administrator, webadmin@kundenserver.de and inform <br /> them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that <br /> may have caused the error.<br /> <br /> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.<br /> <br /> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an <br /> ErrorDocument to handle the request.<br /> <br /> Very strange, and not able to repro it, so it seems to have been transient. Just noting it here in case it happens again. I assume this is a hosting company hiccup.<br /> <br /> BTW, while researching the above, I noticed that the ''explainxkcd.com'' domain registration expires in 3 days (August 10)... hopefully the bill has been paid; I'd hate for this site to go down; Grace Period and Redemption are a PITA... -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :over the past week, I've gotten a few of those Internal Server Errors at random. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Not sure what is up with them, but I've gotten some as well. It is either me messing with the site or the server creaking under pressure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Could be the pressure... I've been getting a few randomly and the site every now and then gets quite slow. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#References]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Can we install the &quot;references&quot; plugin so that we can use &quot;ref&quot; tags and add &quot;references&quot; sections to certain comics? I grant that it won't be as useful as on wikipedia, as most references are generally just wikilinks to wikipedia anyway, but I think it could be helpful. In editing the [[Black Hat]] article, I wanted to cite references to specific comics. I had to write them into the text because references aren't installed. If References do get installed, I'd like to also suggest a template for {{tl|cite comic}} to create a quick and easy uniform reference to comics by number (or perhaps by name at the user's option?) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Do you have a link for the References plugin? I searched quickly on MediaWiki's site and didn't see anything. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php Cite extension]<br /> :::It defaults (I believe) to citing in a 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 style; there's SOMETHING That lets you change it to the more familiar wikipedia 'a' 'b' 'c' style, which is easier to read, imo. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: qv the existing &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, which generate links to a specific xkcd comic, or the corresponding explanation here, respectively; to wit, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produce {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}}, the latter could also be used this way: {{explain|29: Hitler}}. Either could also become {{xkcd|29|the first comic in which Black Hat appears}} or {{explain|29|Black Hat's first appearance}}. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mainpage category issues ==<br /> <br /> Waldir already did some repairs to the {{tl|comic}} template to keep it from sorting the [[Main Page]] into categories when the template is transcluded on the main page, but I see that other manual categorizations are still being transcluded (eg: the main page is currently categorized into [[:category:Comics featuring Cueball]]. Is there a way to include the article without including its categories at all? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :That doesn't seem to be related to the {{tl|comic}} template. Apparently the categories added manually to the comic page are getting to the main page. We can, for now, wrap them in noinclude tags. Maybe later we should create a {{tl|category}} template that does that automatically. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::I noted in that you'd already fixed the comic template. As I said, these were the &quot;other manual categorizations&quot;. Noinclude would work, I suppose, but I do think we need to somehow fix that if the entire article is going to be included on the main page. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issues ==<br /> <br /> I seem to be seeing some caching issues with images. I can't be sure if this will still be in effect by the time anyone reads this, but at the time of writing, [[:File:United Shapes.png]], for example, is still displaying as an older revision (even though it correctly states the filesize and resolution of the current version). Viewing the &quot;full sized image&quot; ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png]) still displays that older revision, as well. However, if you add a question mark to the end of the full sized URL ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png?]), the image is correctly purged and displays the correct image (although only with that URL, not on the file page nor where the image is transcluded). In other words, there's a caching issue.<br /> <br /> I used to edit on some Wikia sites where they also had this issue, and it drove all the editors up the wall (particularly since it ended up affecting a good portion of images when updated, sometimes for as long as several hours). It was frankly quite frustrating when Wikia refused to do anything about that problem (part of the reason I don't edit there anymore). Is there any chance someone could look into this issue? I'm not sure what entirely causes it. {{User:Omega/sig}} 01:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aaaaand the image is updated (so the above example won't work anymore). The images definitely seem to be updating, but it's rather slow: at least a few minutes... {{User:Omega/sig}} 02:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think it might have to do with the [[mw:Manual:Job queue#HTML cache invalidation|Job queue]]. If that's the case, such updates will gradually happen as edits are made to other pages (each edit takes a job from the queue and runs it). But I'm not entirely sure that's what's at play here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Related issue?===<br /> Don't know if this is related, but I'm noticing that thumbnails are displaying as red X's on alot of images - especially where I've noticed that editors have corrected the image title to lowercase in an article. One example is [[file:t-shirts]] and [[T-shirts]] - the thumbnails for the image history on the image page itself are Xs for me, as is the actualy comic on its comic page, which was at a reduced size. This isn't the only comic doing this. [[Hitler]] is as well, for example. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Creating new comics ==<br /> <br /> I'm a big fan of [[List of all comics]] which I think is a great page and resource. Problem is, at least for me, the &quot;create&quot; button isn't working like it should. It's not preloading the {{tl|create}} template as a starting template. If someone has time to take a look at that issue, I think it's a great idea. Is there any way that the preload could also somehow be passed the comic number, image name and comic name so the user doesn't have to reenter those? We should look into this. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Ditto. There are a few refinements that I think could be made, though.<br /> :* It's huge, taking a lot of time to load (tables tend to do that, I suppose) so perhaps breaking it into groups, even if it's on the same page (that is, separate tables for each hundred or fraction thereof) Breaking each into sections would allow a TOC for rapid navigation, too.<br /> :* While it might be innocuous, the (create) link isn't needed for anything that isn't redlinked, so maybe an #ifexist, for when the pages do get created, the create no longer appears.<br /> :Just thotz. Otherwise, it's a really useful page, both for visitors, and gnomes. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The create link only appears on redlinked pages for me already. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:45, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == short URLs ==<br /> <br /> Hi, you should try to enable short URLs, which remove the ugly index.php from every URL. It makes navigation more intuitive and &quot;wiki-style&quot;. It's actually quite easy to do: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL]<br /> <br /> (Oh, and by the way, would you add WikiEditor? It's so beautiful :) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor])<br /> <br /> == Scaled Images ==<br /> <br /> Some of the larger comics are being scaled down to 800px wide. But MediaWiki apparently wants a discrete image rather than scaling what's been uploaded. Is there a plan to fix this? I hope I posted to the right section [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Can you provide an article as an example, because I'm not sure what you mean here. What I ''have'' noticed lately, and maybe this is the same thing you're talking about is that ''any'' scaled image is not displaying and I'm not sure what the error is.<br /> <br /> [[file:Cueball.png|50px|right]]<br /> For Example:<br /> <br /> : The image links to [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/thumb/4/46/Cueball.png/50px-Cueball.png], which gives a 404. Maybe this is related to [[#short URLs]]? --[[Special:Contributions/83.243.48.2|83.243.48.2]] 06:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::When I first started posting comics, the scaling worked; so something changed to break the images. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I'll start building a list here of them as I go through. Feel free to strike out the ones that fix themselves or get fixed.<br /> :* [[1040: Lakes and Oceans]]<br /> :* [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> :* [[1080: Visual Field]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_2.png]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_small.png]]<br /> :* Basically, anything that's been scaled down, whether automatically by the wiki software (usually on File pages), or by people putting in widths into the comic template on comic pages so the images aren't obnoxiously large.<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Right - so this is the same problem. Basically resized images are no longer working properly for some reason... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images_and_other_uploaded_files#Thumbnails_not_being_created Here is a mediawiki discussion] on this same (appraently) issue. And [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki_1.19#Thumbnails_didn.27t_work_since_Update_to_1.19_15046 this is a mediawiki bug report thread] that has at least one link to a patch. Perhaps someone in management can attempt to impliment some of the proposed solutions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issue with pages ==<br /> <br /> I'm noticing that aside from the image scaling issue (that I really hope someone is working on), I'm noticing that pages appear to be caching - I edited the latest article but my edits don't immediately show on the main page where that article is transcluded (as of this writing, I still see dead links on the mainpage to &quot;Comics featuring Beret Guy&quot; &quot;Comics featuring Ponytail&quot; because I forgot to add &quot;Category:&quot; to the wiki tag, even though I've already fixed the error in the article. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Math extension ==<br /> <br /> [[:mw:Extension:Math|Extension:Math]] for mathematical formulas in &quot;Transcript&quot; sections (see [[385]] or [[870]]). --[[User:Valepert|valepert]] ([[User talk:Valepert|talk]]) 04:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External Link ==<br /> <br /> The little image that is usually there to indicate an external link is not appear on some pages:<br /> <br /> + Home Page&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Community Portal&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Etc&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Probably a permissions issue. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Spam template add noindex ==<br /> <br /> Can the spam template be modified to also tag the pages as [[:Category:Noindexed pages]] so that passing search engine robots don't think we're promoting those sites? I haven't leveled up enough in wiki-knowledge to be smart enough to do that on my own. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Apologies if this is already implemented, but just add &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;__NOINDEX__&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; to the template page. That's assuming the robots.txt for this website is set up to accept instructions from the wiki, of course. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 07:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Change &quot;Discussion&quot; to &quot;Talk&quot; ==<br /> <br /> It seems we've borrowed a number of templates and other settings that refer to &quot;T&quot; or &quot;talk&quot; for what is still called &quot;Discussion&quot; here. I suggest it is changed to &quot;Talk&quot; now, rather than change the references back to &quot;D&quot; and &quot;discussion&quot;. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New comic template: ==<br /> <br /> [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Edit_toolbar this guy] has indicated that he has &quot;added some interesting features to my toolbar, including adding a page template as a button&quot; - it would be great to Add the {{tl|create}} template code as a quick clickable button to insert when creating a new page for new comics... Can anyone with admin access to the site code add such a button?? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xkcd icon ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone see the icon next to xkcd.com links? I just see a blank space. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I cannot, and as far as I know, no one else can. I suspect that this is related to the image resizing bug that we are also dealing with. But, as no one is working on that, there will not be a fix for this either in the near (or indeed the foreseeable) future. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: We could simply remove it. I mean, was it that useful anyway? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Actually, it wasn't related to the image scaling problem. It turns out the direct link at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] was outdated. I just fixed that :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We need more maintainers ==<br /> <br /> :''I'm moving a thread that Davidy22 started on my talk page. The gist is, we need more people with server-side access (especially mediawiki-savvy ones) so we can properly deal with several issues that have been plaguing the wiki for a while now, most notably spam, but also the image scaling problem, a possible extension for proper comments, clean urls, etc. Below is the original thread, please comment.'' --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could you set the permissions so that all anon users have to pass a captcha to edit? The spam has gotten obscene, and they've stopped posting links, so our current detection mechanisms aren't working anymore. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would love to have the ability to tweak the wiki more thoroughly, but currently Jeff's the only one with server access. To be honest, I am not terribly familiar with server-side mediawiki management, so I haven't asked Jeff for access, but it's clear we can't be dependent on a single person to do all the mediawiki config (and Jeff probably knows even less about mediawiki than I do). Are you by any chance acquainted with server-side mediawiki maintenance? I think we could present a good case for having someone else with access to a dev/prototype instance of this wiki on Jeff's server so we could at least experiment and tell him exactly what needs to be done. Thoughts? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that we need more people that are empowered to actively fight spam. I think that we ought to promote Davidy22 to administrator also, so that he can delete pages and block spammers/vandals as he notices them rather than letting them pile up until yourself, IronyChef, or myself notice that there's work that needs done.<br /> <br /> ::What I think we should do is break out rights into more groups than simply administrator and bureaucrat. I think that's too big of a jump, and that there should be some gradiation. I think we should add a moderator (mark pages as patrolled and rollback ability (as much as it's a sledgehammer when you really only need a ball-peen hammer)) position.<br /> <br /> ::I think we also need a spam fighter position, but that might not be possible to implement. It should be a position that allows the person to delete pages with 1 or 2 edits (page creation, marked as spam, maybe as high as 3 or 4 for the bots that repeat edit certain pages) and block users with 1 or 2 edits. The real problem there is how to grant those super-powerful abilities without allowing them to lose their mind and go crazy and destroy the wiki. Of course, if we don't catch it early enough there's going to be those IPs that manage to get to six edits, and those will have to be squashed by a full admin. We will also need a way of tagging those spam accounts so when a full admin passes by they will also know to ban the IP address after a spam fighter has deleted all the pages it created.<br /> <br /> ::Finally, we also need a more active bureaucrat so that we don't have to bug Jeff to promote admin's as well as future moderators and/or spam fighters, and recognize bot accounts as bot accounts. We also should find someone knowledgeable to help Jeff (and maybe he has little helpers) to maintain the actual server. I've done some PHP work, but I've never touched anything deep inside a wiki (I like Ruby and Rails much more). This is my first time gaining admin status on a wiki, so I have no idea what the extra dials and levers do/mean. I look up on the MediaWiki manual and Wikipedia help pages things that I think should be possible, and often times pages exist in places about doing these things, but I'm nowhere near being called knowledgeable. After I finish up some IRL work I'm currently tied up in, I intend to set up a VM webserver on my computers and run a mediawiki install so I can learn how to work (and not break) things without putting explain xkcd in jeopardy.<br /> <br /> ::Another really wordy post from, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: From what I know, a moderator user group is possible, but not the spam fighter one. Then again, too many hierarchical levels may be too much for such a small body of regulars. Implementing the moderator group is easy, [[mw:Manual:User rights]] has the details (the &quot;ninja&quot; example and the &quot;list of permissions&quot; section should be enough for putting together the configuration commands to be added to the wiki's LocalSettings.php).<br /> ::: As for bureaucrats, I think it makes sense but it seems to me that Jeff only takes longer to perform changes that affect the server, as they understandably may take longer or be more complex (or break the wiki!). Bureaucrats' only difference from admins is that they can promote/demote other users, and this Jeff has been doing without delay, so perhaps there isn't a need for more bureaucrats at the moment. Please correct me if I'm wrong.<br /> ::: We do need more sysadmins (people with access to the server), though, for sure. This is a little tricky as none of us is comfortable enough to confidently make server changes in a mediawiki install. Jeff, how about putting the wiki in source control and giving two or three people access to it, so that any wrongdoings can be easily reverted? You could setup a git repository in the server and we could fork it locally to our machines, make tests and push the commits to the server repo whenever they're ready. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: This is good stuff. I'm down with promoting more admins for spam fighting. If they screw stuff up we can demote them if necessary. I really haven't found a spam fighting extension that I think will be the best possible solution. I'll keep looking as it may be a combination of things. Server access is much more complicated as it is not even my server and it is shared hosting. I think that would be best to be accessed just by me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Regarding the server, I understand -- your position seems reasonable. In any case, I've been looking for extensions that may help taking some workload out of server actions and make more stuff configurable via the wiki itself. I'll report back if I find something usable.<br /> ::::: On another note, how do you feel about promoting more bureaucrats? I suggest Lcarsos who's been consistently active for the past few months. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally I'd kind of like to go and make some changes myself. Come up with a nice short url pattern and set it up. Upgrade the wiki. etc... [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 02:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The shorter URL is being looked into, although Mediawiki strongly advises against it. As for upgrades to the wiki, monetary donations towards Jeff so he can buy better bit for the server would be appreciated. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 03:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::MediaWiki does not advise against it. Half the code currently running short URLs in core was written by me. Same for the new standard for rewrite rules in the new guides. And the tool to automatically generate the config needed to apply short urls to a wiki. Short URLs are '''not''' advised against.<br /> ::We do however strongly advise against installing a wiki in &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt;. Because you do '''not''' want to create &lt;code&gt;/wiki/$1&lt;/code&gt; style paths while your script path makes scripts look like &lt;code&gt;/wiki/index.php&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::In this case my plan would be to move &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt; to &lt;code&gt;/w&lt;/code&gt; then come up with some other short url pattern like &lt;code&gt;/e/$1&lt;/code&gt;, some other path, or maybe &lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::And setup some 301 redirects to redirect from the old urls to the new ones.<br /> ::And upgrading the version of MediaWiki so that it doesn't have security holes doesn't require server replacement. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 07:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Ohwait, software upgrades. Uh. I knew you were talking about that. Yep. Definitely. The wiki recently had issues with running out of hard drive space, so that was all that was on my mind there.<br /> :::Also, I thought you had been referring to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory this]. Whoop. Well, you could leave Jeff a message at his [[user talk:Jeff|talk page]] to get server access. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:05, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I strongly support this. It's been far too long since we decided we'd want the short url scheme (&lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt; seems like the best option since it would be simpler/cleaner and allow http://explainxkcd/1234 to point to the correct comic without any extra rewrite rules). While you're at it, I'm sure many would appreciate a look at the current situation with image resizing, which doesn't seem to be working for some reason. Installing [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]] would be awesome, too, as well as [[mw:Extension:Contribution Scores|Extension:Contribution Scores]] ([http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Special:ContributionScores live example]). I'll ask Jeff to take a look at this thread. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) email me and I'll get you set up with whatever you need. All the suggestions sound good to me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Also, the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution Scores]] are up. I'm not even top 10 all time, I need to step up my game. Comments will take more work as it needs its own database. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Awesome! I did some styling changes to make it more interesting :) Let me know what you guys think about it! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Holy crud, what did you do when the wiki started to have almost double my lifetime score? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:57, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Hahahah :P I'm pretty sure I cheated a little, IIRC there was an image renaming operation for which I used [http://github.com/btongminh/mwclient mwclient] ;) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sort by numbers in categories ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that in [[:Category:Comics]] all comics are sorted correctly by numbers; but not in any subcategory. (I didn't really get the explanation of how it works on the comics page.) How to fix this? -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;nowiki&gt;The comics template uses a template called num4 that turns the number in the comic number field into a four-digit number. That's then passed as a parameter to the category link, and the comics category page sorts articles by those four-digit numbers instead of their actual names. If we wanted to do the same for other categories, we would have to type them all out as [[Category:Politics|0200]], or whatever the comic number is. I would rather wait for mediawiki to come out with an in-built feature to solve this.&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there a reason that the template applies that directly to [[:Category:Comics]] and not as a default sortkey via DEFAULTSORT? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:10, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Good thinking. Using DEFAULTSORT oughta make it work for all categories. I'll give it a try. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Resize ==<br /> <br /> I haven't been here (to edit) for a while, but have we still not addressed the bug that doesn't allow image resizing? I know most of us don't have access to that kind of lower-level coding on the site, but I think it's a bit of a notable issue that we can't display comics smaller than their actual size. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Take it up with [[User:Jeff]], but I suspect that adding your voice to the already insistent roaring that images are broken isn't going to inspire much change. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incidental Ads ==<br /> <br /> as ive noticed i think you should check if someone has embeded some of your links with ads really annoying please fix<br /> <br /> --[[User:TheWeatherMan|TheWeatherMan]] ([[User talk:TheWeatherMan|talk]]) 14:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)TheWeatherMan<br /> <br /> :Do you have any specific examples of this? By the way, using punctuation, capitalization, spell check, and complete sentences are more likely to get someone to help you. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There is known malware (both adware and viruses) that makes Wikipedia look like it has ads. This wiki uses the same wiki software, so perhaps that malware affects our site too? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==/wiki/==<br /> Now that explainxkcd redirects straight to the wiki, could we take the /wiki/ out of the url? I'd also like the wiki's edit log to be purged to clean out the history and forget about past spam, but that's probably wishing for too much. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But seriously, could the /wiki/ go? It'll screw with the spammers for a day or two, at the very least. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Newbie questions: Comic dates, previous-and-next-comic buttons==<br /> Just created the my first page, [[220: Philosophy]], but I could use a little guidance. How do I find the date that an ''xkcd'' comic was originally posted, and how do I rig up the previous-comic and next-comic arrows on a page? (Actually, I've noticed several pages that should have the arrows but don't.) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Those arrows will automagically insert themselves when you make the adjacent comic explanations. There *is* a little backstage magic that needs to be taken care of, but we can do that for you. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ** OK. How about the dates? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Click on &quot;All Comics&quot; in the navbar on left-hand side of the site. The dates are in the form YYYY-MM-DD. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The comic template checks for the existence of the numerical redirect for the comic before and the comic after. If it finds the page to exist it will display the next/previous button as appropriate. So, by creating the redirects listed on the [[List of all comics]] (third column, only worry about the number and title links) future pages will automatically get the links created. Redirect pages look like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[####: Comic Title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; and that's it ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1143&amp;redirect=no here] is a link to the redirect page with redirect disabled so you can look at the source to see what I'm talking about). That's all that needs to exist on the number and title redirects. If you feel up to creating them yourself, feel free, otherwise someone else goes through occasionally and mass adds all the missing redirects. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Error message ==<br /> <br /> I've been getting this error message a lot the last cup'o days. When trying to access a page; when trying to save changes on a page. Any ideas on why? I'm getting it on both chrome and firefox.<br /> ::Database error<br /> ::A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br /> ::(SQL query hidden) from within function &quot;Revision::insertOn&quot;. Database returned error &quot;1142: INSERT command denied to user ::'dbo423085716'@'74.208.16.155' for :table 'text' (db423085716.db.1and1.com)&quot;.<br /> –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Every once in a while I get a SQL error being reported, but usually I can simply F5 and the page comes up. Every once in a while it seems like the server load is just so that somebody gets lucky enough to see the server error out. I don't think there's much we can do about this, other than move the wiki onto a more powerful server. But, there are no ads on this site, there is no revenue model, just a very kind person paying for hosting that keeps this site up. I'm more than willing to overlook a few hiccups for the continuing availability of explain xkcd. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, I get those too, but St. Nerol was talking about something that happened recently with the server running out of hard drive space and throwing SQL errors every time someone tried to make large edits. I had to find Jeff on twitter because I'd get SQL errors when I tried to edit his talk page. He's looking into history deletion plugins, to clear out our vast archives of deleted spam and obsoleted prototype comic templates. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Install a caching reverse proxy to handle heavy load ==<br /> <br /> According to returned headers, this server runs from Apache directly. I would recommend setting up a reverse caching proxy in front of Apache to handle high traffic load (like, e.g. current load). The one I use is nginx (http://nginx.org/) -- admins, drop me an email if you need help setting it up [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 21:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The standard software to use is either Squid or Varnish. Nginx is a bit too much of a webserver to be configured in the way MW needs iirc. Although nginx would help with serving the static assets. Unfortunately there will be a need to switch to a proper server first. The site seems to be hosted on shared hosting. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 04:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I had gotten burned before with both Squid and Varnish but Nginx had always kept my systems alive. It's extremely lightweight and works great to fix these kinds of problems. But, of course if it's a shared server where you can't use it, it won't help... [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Nginx is a great webserver. It'll serve out static pages much better than Apache. But the issue here isn't the webserver. It's PHP and all the work that the database needs to do on every request. Switching webservers won't get rid of that issue. Using squid/varnish a proper reverse proxying cache will allow complete pages to be cached and served directly to readers bypassing the webserver, php, and the database entirely on some requests. That'll reduce the load the site has to cope with. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 23:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A couple of enwiki features implemented ==<br /> <br /> I have &quot;imported&quot; {{tl|disambig}} and the related [[:Category:Disambiguation pages|category]] for the [[Exoplanets‎‎|one page]] it was needed for (to avoid having a page that was uncategorised :-) ).<br /> <br /> I have also created {{tl|unsigned ip}} (and converted the one use of {{tl|Unsigned}}) and applied it for a handful of existing uses of {{tl|unsigned}}. It hardly matters, but then it's also only three more characters to type for new uses.<br /> <br /> Importantly, however, I implore you to consider including the second datestamp parameter when applying either template -- it's actually the more useful information. I know it's a pain to convert times ''back'' to UTC, but, hey, most of you don't have to deal with a half hour timezone :-) [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 16:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Urrggh, there's an option to make UTC the default display time. The template oughta be a little more automated, mebbe filling the time in automagically with five tildes if no date field is entered? The time will be a bit off when editors fill in the unsigned templates, but it'll be close enough to the actual value. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::No, especially while there's existing templates to adjust, where the &quot;default&quot; datestamp would be way out. If someone wants to fix a lot of the existing usage, setting their timezone to UTC is the simplest option. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 09:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread has been moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading|The proposals board]].''<br /> <br /> == Need password reset ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you all, but I seem to have lost the password to this account and don't have an email set (which requires the password). I'm still logged in thanks to the &quot;remember me&quot; feature but after 30 days I'll lose access. This isn't fixable at the MediaWiki level; someone with access to the server mysql or whatever will need to change something. Is there such a person I can email with? [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 03:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I assume your browser isn't remembering it for you? [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 03:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh wow that was fast. Nope, neither Firefox not OSX keychain access know what it is. [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> : I'm not sure how to solve that problem, but I know account usurpation has been done for the single-login transition in Wikimedia wikis, so technically it should be doable. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Analytics ==<br /> <br /> Recently I found out about WikiApiary, an interesting site that collects analytics from mediawiki wikis. I added explain xkcd. Check the stats that have been collected so far: http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/explain_xkcd --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 00:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

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<p>Waldir: /* Need password reset */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Changelog ==<br /> <br /> I created this page. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've also created [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:40, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've changed [[MediaWiki:Helppage]] to point here. If we decide to have a local users manual or help desk, it should probably be changed. The default target was &quot;Help:Contents&quot;. This also changes where the &quot;Help&quot; link in the sidebar points, so right now we have two different sidebar links pointing to the same place. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:30, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Update: I changed it to point to [[mw:Help:Contents|Help:Contents]] at mediawiki.org. The community portal is already linked from the sidebar, it was redundant to have two links there pointing to the same page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I created [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]. This is one of the &quot;did I break it&quot;-type changes, so let me know if you notice anything strange. The new pages are made up of excerpts from their Wikipedia counterparts - I copied what I thought was potentially useful and left the rest. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:32, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community Portal]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:08, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Sitenotice dismissal ==<br /> <br /> There should be a way to dismiss the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] after you've read it. I know it can be done, but don't know how, does anyone else? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:23, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :What do you think about this extension? [[mw:Extension:DismissableSiteNotice|Dismissable Site Notice]] --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes! That's probably what I'm looking for. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> Hey,<br /> <br /> You might consider [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments]. It acts basically like the comment system on the blog, so you could keep everything (article, comments) in one place. It's more conducive to casual conversation than the discussion page.<br /> --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 14:07, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :That's nice, but a simpler approach could be just to transclude the talk page in the subject page itself, as is done in the Wikipedia Signpost (see [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-30/Technology report|here]] for an example). --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:15, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, that would work. The extension does have its advantages though - it's easier for new users (no markup), you can have upvotes/downvotes/&quot;comments of the day&quot;... It's a matter of preference, I suppose. --[[User:Cyanfish|Cyanfish]] ([[User talk:Cyanfish|talk]]) 22:27, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Discussion above moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ::: I'll take a look and see what looks best. I don't necessarily like the transcluding option. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Neither do I, to be honest. I just created {{tl|Comic discussion}} to make things a little smoother, but from my experience, there will *always* be newcomers forgetting to sign, commenters confused about the best markup for indentation/replies, comments placed at the top rather than at the bottom, new comic description pages created without that template, etc. A proper commenting solution might be the best option for this. I just mentioned the transclusion option to let people know it was a possibility. Also, in the long run we need to make sure the wiki doesn't start looking like Wikia (blergh) if we start adding too many custom extensions. But a comment extension seems to be essential if we don't want to alienate the blog's community. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Following post moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Comments]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> I'd like to suggest we add comments capabilities to the comics pages, since the discussion pages don't lend themselves to the kind of dialogue experienced on the blog. There appear to be several extensions that allow this, but I'm fairly new to the wikimedia stuff so I'm not sure how it would work, exactly. <br /> <br /> One extension available is [[mw:Extension:WordPress Comments|Extension:WordPress Comments]], which appears to enable the style of comments we are used to. Any thoughts? --[[User:DanB|DanB]] (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : We should definitely give it a try :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: That said, [http://shadowfax.org.uk/wiki/MediaWiki_Wordpress_Comment_Extension_Code its demo] looks rather simple. Extension:Comments seems to be a little more powerful (supporting replies, user pictures, voting, and maybe more). The only advantage of the Wordpress one is that it would integrate with Wordpress so extra accounts don't need to be created, but I assume most people who used to comment on the blog didn't have accounts anyway... --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Tried [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments Extension:Comments] - but the download page for it does not exist. Anyone have any ideas why that is? Looks like an extension I'd like to try, but I can't download it! --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Robots.txt ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how to set it up, but if you could edit the robots.txt file to exclude the contents of [[:Category:Noindexed pages]]? I've created a [[Explain XKCD:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for people to test the unfamiliar features in, and you're probably not going to want that indexed by the search engines. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 08:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :Apparently you can edit it through [[MediaWiki:Robots.txt]], but I'm not experienced enough to know what will happen if you block a url that runs through a .php page. (Perhaps nothing? Perhaps it blocks everything?) Is there any chance of moving the wiki to use /wiki/articlename urls like Wikipedia does rather than the current /wiki/index.php?title=articlename ? --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:43, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::: /wiki/articlename would be great. Been trying to figure out how to make it work for days. Let me know if you know how. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> For URL rewritung, have a look at mediawiki.org: [[mw:Manual:Short URL|Short URL]] or for [[mw:Manual:Short URL/Apache|Apache]]. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 15:49, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:27, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Gadgets? ==<br /> <br /> Can we enable [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Gadgets]]? I'd really like to bring over [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Popups]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:HotCat]] as gadgets. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:45, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :sounds good. I'll do it later this weekend when I get back to my computer to get to the FTP access. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:31, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::That'd be great! While you're at it, [[MediaWikiWiki:Extension:Inputbox]] is something we may want for the future, though we don't need it now. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:29, 3 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[User talk:Jeff]]. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> :: {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 03:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: For the record, what was installed was the Gadgets extension (which makes sense since Philosopher said the InputBox is not needed ATM). I had already brought the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js|HotCat gadget]], which should now be visible in the users' preferences for enabling. It was also necessary to create [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] and [[MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat|the description for HotCat]] so it could appear in the preferences page. However, it doesn't seem to be working... If someone can figure out what's wrong, we can fix it. One can test the script separately from the gadget system (so we can make sure it's not a gadget problem) by installing it as a user script, as I did in [[User:Waldir/common.js]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Nevermind, the guys from the #mediawiki IRC channel helped me figure out what was wrong :) it should be working now and available to all users via the gadgets tab of the preferences page. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::: You rule Waldir. The InputBox extension is enabled as well for good measure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 13:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::::: Awesome :D I assume Philosopher will have a few ideas for that (namely the {{tl|Community portal}} template. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::::::: Yeah, that's where I found out about it, at least. I may not find time to implement it right away - I'm busy in RL at the moment. In the mean time, I've imported Popups from en.wikipedia. I haven't edited out the references to Wikipedia in it b/c I'm not quite sure which of them will break things or what to replace them with. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wordpress Import ==<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;Moved from [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests#Wordpress Import]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Anyone have any idea on how to import all of my posts from Wordpress into pages in the wiki? I can do it manually obviously, but I'd love to do it programatically. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> : I also realize that I won't be importing ALL the posts, just the ones that don't already have pages in the wiki already created. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] said ([[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Adding a new comic|here]]): ''When we agree on a page layout, I can do this automatically.'' He's speaking about importing and creating pages for all comics programmatically. I don't know if he includes the explanations from your blog posts, though...<br /> :Also, do you think it could be a good idea to import, in the comic discussions here, the comments existing in the wordpress blog for comics prior to the wiki conversion? They obviously wouldn't be associated with wiki accounts, but we could get a copy of them here (with the dates, names, and also the +/- comment appreciation maybe...). Perhaps this could be considered once the idea of wordpress comments on wiki pages (as suggested [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Technical#Comments|here]] by [[User:DanB|DanB]]) is already settled.<br /> :[[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 15:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I don't think I can import blog posts completely automatically, but maybe write something to make it easier. I'll have to look what is possible, but I'd say the least I'll need is an account for Wordpress.<br /> :: Importing comments is similar: No promises, but probably difficult if not impossible. I'll have to see the comment system in the wiki. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 17:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Importing all previous blog comments would be awesome. We could try a test installation of wordpress and a few test pages here on the wiki (it's easy to delete them if we screw up anything). In any case, I expect some manual tweaking to be needed if we want to convert the comments already posted on-wiki into comments of the wordpress plugin. It's definitely a challenge, but after all, we're xkcd readers, by definition we enjoy a good puzzle :) (and many of us are perfectionists who won't settle for a less-than-perfect solution :D). I say let's hack the heck outta that extension! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Sorry to the perfectionists, but regarding a less-than-perfect solution, could we include a link to the blog comments as a temporary stopgap? I've been using [[1004:_Batman]] to try my hand at adding a comic, and I added a subtle link to the blog comments below the discussion box/transmutation. I'm thinking that link could be added programatically because we know how the blog structure is with year/month/date foldering. --[[User:DanB|DanB]] ([[User talk:DanB|talk]]) 17:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Yes, it can be automatically generated by the {{tl|comic}} template. [[User:TheHYPO]] should be able do do it. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Automation ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Automation]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> This wiki lacks automation, every time a comic comes out it needs to be submitted manually. A really simple way to do this is utilize xkcd's own JSON feed.<br /> http://xkcd.com/json.html<br /> If you download the latest comic json feed and edit it in notepad, you find all sorts of useful data like a complete transcript of the comic. --[[User:Jtorba|Jtorba]] ([[User talk:Jtorba|talk]]) 14:28, 7 August 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Outage ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Miscellaneous]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Just experienced the following navigating the site...<br /> <br /> Internal Server Error<br /> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to <br /> complete your request.<br /> <br /> Please contact the server administrator, webadmin@kundenserver.de and inform <br /> them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that <br /> may have caused the error.<br /> <br /> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.<br /> <br /> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an <br /> ErrorDocument to handle the request.<br /> <br /> Very strange, and not able to repro it, so it seems to have been transient. Just noting it here in case it happens again. I assume this is a hosting company hiccup.<br /> <br /> BTW, while researching the above, I noticed that the ''explainxkcd.com'' domain registration expires in 3 days (August 10)... hopefully the bill has been paid; I'd hate for this site to go down; Grace Period and Redemption are a PITA... -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :over the past week, I've gotten a few of those Internal Server Errors at random. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Not sure what is up with them, but I've gotten some as well. It is either me messing with the site or the server creaking under pressure. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Could be the pressure... I've been getting a few randomly and the site every now and then gets quite slow. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> &lt;small&gt;moved from [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#References]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Can we install the &quot;references&quot; plugin so that we can use &quot;ref&quot; tags and add &quot;references&quot; sections to certain comics? I grant that it won't be as useful as on wikipedia, as most references are generally just wikilinks to wikipedia anyway, but I think it could be helpful. In editing the [[Black Hat]] article, I wanted to cite references to specific comics. I had to write them into the text because references aren't installed. If References do get installed, I'd like to also suggest a template for {{tl|cite comic}} to create a quick and easy uniform reference to comics by number (or perhaps by name at the user's option?) [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Do you have a link for the References plugin? I searched quickly on MediaWiki's site and didn't see anything. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php Cite extension]<br /> :::It defaults (I believe) to citing in a 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 style; there's SOMETHING That lets you change it to the more familiar wikipedia 'a' 'b' 'c' style, which is easier to read, imo. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 19:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: qv the existing &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; templates, which generate links to a specific xkcd comic, or the corresponding explanation here, respectively; to wit, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{xkcd|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; and &lt;nowiki&gt;{{explain|29}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produce {{xkcd|29}} and {{explain|29}}, the latter could also be used this way: {{explain|29: Hitler}}. Either could also become {{xkcd|29|the first comic in which Black Hat appears}} or {{explain|29|Black Hat's first appearance}}. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mainpage category issues ==<br /> <br /> Waldir already did some repairs to the {{tl|comic}} template to keep it from sorting the [[Main Page]] into categories when the template is transcluded on the main page, but I see that other manual categorizations are still being transcluded (eg: the main page is currently categorized into [[:category:Comics featuring Cueball]]. Is there a way to include the article without including its categories at all? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :That doesn't seem to be related to the {{tl|comic}} template. Apparently the categories added manually to the comic page are getting to the main page. We can, for now, wrap them in noinclude tags. Maybe later we should create a {{tl|category}} template that does that automatically. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::I noted in that you'd already fixed the comic template. As I said, these were the &quot;other manual categorizations&quot;. Noinclude would work, I suppose, but I do think we need to somehow fix that if the entire article is going to be included on the main page. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issues ==<br /> <br /> I seem to be seeing some caching issues with images. I can't be sure if this will still be in effect by the time anyone reads this, but at the time of writing, [[:File:United Shapes.png]], for example, is still displaying as an older revision (even though it correctly states the filesize and resolution of the current version). Viewing the &quot;full sized image&quot; ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png]) still displays that older revision, as well. However, if you add a question mark to the end of the full sized URL ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/f/fc/United_Shapes.png?]), the image is correctly purged and displays the correct image (although only with that URL, not on the file page nor where the image is transcluded). In other words, there's a caching issue.<br /> <br /> I used to edit on some Wikia sites where they also had this issue, and it drove all the editors up the wall (particularly since it ended up affecting a good portion of images when updated, sometimes for as long as several hours). It was frankly quite frustrating when Wikia refused to do anything about that problem (part of the reason I don't edit there anymore). Is there any chance someone could look into this issue? I'm not sure what entirely causes it. {{User:Omega/sig}} 01:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aaaaand the image is updated (so the above example won't work anymore). The images definitely seem to be updating, but it's rather slow: at least a few minutes... {{User:Omega/sig}} 02:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I think it might have to do with the [[mw:Manual:Job queue#HTML cache invalidation|Job queue]]. If that's the case, such updates will gradually happen as edits are made to other pages (each edit takes a job from the queue and runs it). But I'm not entirely sure that's what's at play here. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Related issue?===<br /> Don't know if this is related, but I'm noticing that thumbnails are displaying as red X's on alot of images - especially where I've noticed that editors have corrected the image title to lowercase in an article. One example is [[file:t-shirts]] and [[T-shirts]] - the thumbnails for the image history on the image page itself are Xs for me, as is the actualy comic on its comic page, which was at a reduced size. This isn't the only comic doing this. [[Hitler]] is as well, for example. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Creating new comics ==<br /> <br /> I'm a big fan of [[List of all comics]] which I think is a great page and resource. Problem is, at least for me, the &quot;create&quot; button isn't working like it should. It's not preloading the {{tl|create}} template as a starting template. If someone has time to take a look at that issue, I think it's a great idea. Is there any way that the preload could also somehow be passed the comic number, image name and comic name so the user doesn't have to reenter those? We should look into this. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 21:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Ditto. There are a few refinements that I think could be made, though.<br /> :* It's huge, taking a lot of time to load (tables tend to do that, I suppose) so perhaps breaking it into groups, even if it's on the same page (that is, separate tables for each hundred or fraction thereof) Breaking each into sections would allow a TOC for rapid navigation, too.<br /> :* While it might be innocuous, the (create) link isn't needed for anything that isn't redlinked, so maybe an #ifexist, for when the pages do get created, the create no longer appears.<br /> :Just thotz. Otherwise, it's a really useful page, both for visitors, and gnomes. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 01:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::The create link only appears on redlinked pages for me already. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:45, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == short URLs ==<br /> <br /> Hi, you should try to enable short URLs, which remove the ugly index.php from every URL. It makes navigation more intuitive and &quot;wiki-style&quot;. It's actually quite easy to do: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL]<br /> <br /> (Oh, and by the way, would you add WikiEditor? It's so beautiful :) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor])<br /> <br /> == Scaled Images ==<br /> <br /> Some of the larger comics are being scaled down to 800px wide. But MediaWiki apparently wants a discrete image rather than scaling what's been uploaded. Is there a plan to fix this? I hope I posted to the right section [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Can you provide an article as an example, because I'm not sure what you mean here. What I ''have'' noticed lately, and maybe this is the same thing you're talking about is that ''any'' scaled image is not displaying and I'm not sure what the error is.<br /> <br /> [[file:Cueball.png|50px|right]]<br /> For Example:<br /> <br /> : The image links to [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/thumb/4/46/Cueball.png/50px-Cueball.png], which gives a 404. Maybe this is related to [[#short URLs]]? --[[Special:Contributions/83.243.48.2|83.243.48.2]] 06:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::When I first started posting comics, the scaling worked; so something changed to break the images. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I'll start building a list here of them as I go through. Feel free to strike out the ones that fix themselves or get fixed.<br /> :* [[1040: Lakes and Oceans]]<br /> :* [[1071: Exoplanets]]<br /> :* [[1080: Visual Field]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_2.png]]<br /> :* [[:File:online_communities_small.png]]<br /> :* Basically, anything that's been scaled down, whether automatically by the wiki software (usually on File pages), or by people putting in widths into the comic template on comic pages so the images aren't obnoxiously large.<br /> :[[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Right - so this is the same problem. Basically resized images are no longer working properly for some reason... [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images_and_other_uploaded_files#Thumbnails_not_being_created Here is a mediawiki discussion] on this same (appraently) issue. And [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki_1.19#Thumbnails_didn.27t_work_since_Update_to_1.19_15046 this is a mediawiki bug report thread] that has at least one link to a patch. Perhaps someone in management can attempt to impliment some of the proposed solutions? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Caching issue with pages ==<br /> <br /> I'm noticing that aside from the image scaling issue (that I really hope someone is working on), I'm noticing that pages appear to be caching - I edited the latest article but my edits don't immediately show on the main page where that article is transcluded (as of this writing, I still see dead links on the mainpage to &quot;Comics featuring Beret Guy&quot; &quot;Comics featuring Ponytail&quot; because I forgot to add &quot;Category:&quot; to the wiki tag, even though I've already fixed the error in the article. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 16:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Math extension ==<br /> <br /> [[:mw:Extension:Math|Extension:Math]] for mathematical formulas in &quot;Transcript&quot; sections (see [[385]] or [[870]]). --[[User:Valepert|valepert]] ([[User talk:Valepert|talk]]) 04:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External Link ==<br /> <br /> The little image that is usually there to indicate an external link is not appear on some pages:<br /> <br /> + Home Page&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Community Portal&lt;br /&gt;<br /> + Etc&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Probably a permissions issue. --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Spam template add noindex ==<br /> <br /> Can the spam template be modified to also tag the pages as [[:Category:Noindexed pages]] so that passing search engine robots don't think we're promoting those sites? I haven't leveled up enough in wiki-knowledge to be smart enough to do that on my own. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Apologies if this is already implemented, but just add &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;includeonly&gt;__NOINDEX__&lt;/includeonly&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; to the template page. That's assuming the robots.txt for this website is set up to accept instructions from the wiki, of course. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 07:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Change &quot;Discussion&quot; to &quot;Talk&quot; ==<br /> <br /> It seems we've borrowed a number of templates and other settings that refer to &quot;T&quot; or &quot;talk&quot; for what is still called &quot;Discussion&quot; here. I suggest it is changed to &quot;Talk&quot; now, rather than change the references back to &quot;D&quot; and &quot;discussion&quot;. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 11:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New comic template: ==<br /> <br /> [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Edit_toolbar this guy] has indicated that he has &quot;added some interesting features to my toolbar, including adding a page template as a button&quot; - it would be great to Add the {{tl|create}} template code as a quick clickable button to insert when creating a new page for new comics... Can anyone with admin access to the site code add such a button?? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 20:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == xkcd icon ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone see the icon next to xkcd.com links? I just see a blank space. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I cannot, and as far as I know, no one else can. I suspect that this is related to the image resizing bug that we are also dealing with. But, as no one is working on that, there will not be a fix for this either in the near (or indeed the foreseeable) future. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 15:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: We could simply remove it. I mean, was it that useful anyway? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Actually, it wasn't related to the image scaling problem. It turns out the direct link at [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] was outdated. I just fixed that :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We need more maintainers ==<br /> <br /> :''I'm moving a thread that Davidy22 started on my talk page. The gist is, we need more people with server-side access (especially mediawiki-savvy ones) so we can properly deal with several issues that have been plaguing the wiki for a while now, most notably spam, but also the image scaling problem, a possible extension for proper comments, clean urls, etc. Below is the original thread, please comment.'' --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could you set the permissions so that all anon users have to pass a captcha to edit? The spam has gotten obscene, and they've stopped posting links, so our current detection mechanisms aren't working anymore. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I would love to have the ability to tweak the wiki more thoroughly, but currently Jeff's the only one with server access. To be honest, I am not terribly familiar with server-side mediawiki management, so I haven't asked Jeff for access, but it's clear we can't be dependent on a single person to do all the mediawiki config (and Jeff probably knows even less about mediawiki than I do). Are you by any chance acquainted with server-side mediawiki maintenance? I think we could present a good case for having someone else with access to a dev/prototype instance of this wiki on Jeff's server so we could at least experiment and tell him exactly what needs to be done. Thoughts? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I agree that we need more people that are empowered to actively fight spam. I think that we ought to promote Davidy22 to administrator also, so that he can delete pages and block spammers/vandals as he notices them rather than letting them pile up until yourself, IronyChef, or myself notice that there's work that needs done.<br /> <br /> ::What I think we should do is break out rights into more groups than simply administrator and bureaucrat. I think that's too big of a jump, and that there should be some gradiation. I think we should add a moderator (mark pages as patrolled and rollback ability (as much as it's a sledgehammer when you really only need a ball-peen hammer)) position.<br /> <br /> ::I think we also need a spam fighter position, but that might not be possible to implement. It should be a position that allows the person to delete pages with 1 or 2 edits (page creation, marked as spam, maybe as high as 3 or 4 for the bots that repeat edit certain pages) and block users with 1 or 2 edits. The real problem there is how to grant those super-powerful abilities without allowing them to lose their mind and go crazy and destroy the wiki. Of course, if we don't catch it early enough there's going to be those IPs that manage to get to six edits, and those will have to be squashed by a full admin. We will also need a way of tagging those spam accounts so when a full admin passes by they will also know to ban the IP address after a spam fighter has deleted all the pages it created.<br /> <br /> ::Finally, we also need a more active bureaucrat so that we don't have to bug Jeff to promote admin's as well as future moderators and/or spam fighters, and recognize bot accounts as bot accounts. We also should find someone knowledgeable to help Jeff (and maybe he has little helpers) to maintain the actual server. I've done some PHP work, but I've never touched anything deep inside a wiki (I like Ruby and Rails much more). This is my first time gaining admin status on a wiki, so I have no idea what the extra dials and levers do/mean. I look up on the MediaWiki manual and Wikipedia help pages things that I think should be possible, and often times pages exist in places about doing these things, but I'm nowhere near being called knowledgeable. After I finish up some IRL work I'm currently tied up in, I intend to set up a VM webserver on my computers and run a mediawiki install so I can learn how to work (and not break) things without putting explain xkcd in jeopardy.<br /> <br /> ::Another really wordy post from, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 22:01, 29 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: From what I know, a moderator user group is possible, but not the spam fighter one. Then again, too many hierarchical levels may be too much for such a small body of regulars. Implementing the moderator group is easy, [[mw:Manual:User rights]] has the details (the &quot;ninja&quot; example and the &quot;list of permissions&quot; section should be enough for putting together the configuration commands to be added to the wiki's LocalSettings.php).<br /> ::: As for bureaucrats, I think it makes sense but it seems to me that Jeff only takes longer to perform changes that affect the server, as they understandably may take longer or be more complex (or break the wiki!). Bureaucrats' only difference from admins is that they can promote/demote other users, and this Jeff has been doing without delay, so perhaps there isn't a need for more bureaucrats at the moment. Please correct me if I'm wrong.<br /> ::: We do need more sysadmins (people with access to the server), though, for sure. This is a little tricky as none of us is comfortable enough to confidently make server changes in a mediawiki install. Jeff, how about putting the wiki in source control and giving two or three people access to it, so that any wrongdoings can be easily reverted? You could setup a git repository in the server and we could fork it locally to our machines, make tests and push the commits to the server repo whenever they're ready. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: This is good stuff. I'm down with promoting more admins for spam fighting. If they screw stuff up we can demote them if necessary. I really haven't found a spam fighting extension that I think will be the best possible solution. I'll keep looking as it may be a combination of things. Server access is much more complicated as it is not even my server and it is shared hosting. I think that would be best to be accessed just by me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Regarding the server, I understand -- your position seems reasonable. In any case, I've been looking for extensions that may help taking some workload out of server actions and make more stuff configurable via the wiki itself. I'll report back if I find something usable.<br /> ::::: On another note, how do you feel about promoting more bureaucrats? I suggest Lcarsos who's been consistently active for the past few months. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:47, 4 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally I'd kind of like to go and make some changes myself. Come up with a nice short url pattern and set it up. Upgrade the wiki. etc... [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 02:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :The shorter URL is being looked into, although Mediawiki strongly advises against it. As for upgrades to the wiki, monetary donations towards Jeff so he can buy better bit for the server would be appreciated. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 03:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::MediaWiki does not advise against it. Half the code currently running short URLs in core was written by me. Same for the new standard for rewrite rules in the new guides. And the tool to automatically generate the config needed to apply short urls to a wiki. Short URLs are '''not''' advised against.<br /> ::We do however strongly advise against installing a wiki in &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt;. Because you do '''not''' want to create &lt;code&gt;/wiki/$1&lt;/code&gt; style paths while your script path makes scripts look like &lt;code&gt;/wiki/index.php&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::In this case my plan would be to move &lt;code&gt;/wiki&lt;/code&gt; to &lt;code&gt;/w&lt;/code&gt; then come up with some other short url pattern like &lt;code&gt;/e/$1&lt;/code&gt;, some other path, or maybe &lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> ::And setup some 301 redirects to redirect from the old urls to the new ones.<br /> ::And upgrading the version of MediaWiki so that it doesn't have security holes doesn't require server replacement. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 07:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Ohwait, software upgrades. Uh. I knew you were talking about that. Yep. Definitely. The wiki recently had issues with running out of hard drive space, so that was all that was on my mind there.<br /> :::Also, I thought you had been referring to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory this]. Whoop. Well, you could leave Jeff a message at his [[user talk:Jeff|talk page]] to get server access. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:05, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::I strongly support this. It's been far too long since we decided we'd want the short url scheme (&lt;code&gt;/$1&lt;/code&gt; seems like the best option since it would be simpler/cleaner and allow http://explainxkcd/1234 to point to the correct comic without any extra rewrite rules). While you're at it, I'm sure many would appreciate a look at the current situation with image resizing, which doesn't seem to be working for some reason. Installing [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]] would be awesome, too, as well as [[mw:Extension:Contribution Scores|Extension:Contribution Scores]] ([http://setiquest.org/wiki/index.php/Special:ContributionScores live example]). I'll ask Jeff to take a look at this thread. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) email me and I'll get you set up with whatever you need. All the suggestions sound good to me. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Also, the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution Scores]] are up. I'm not even top 10 all time, I need to step up my game. Comments will take more work as it needs its own database. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 00:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Awesome! I did some styling changes to make it more interesting :) Let me know what you guys think about it! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Holy crud, what did you do when the wiki started to have almost double my lifetime score? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:57, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Hahahah :P I'm pretty sure I cheated a little, IIRC there was an image renaming operation for which I used [http://github.com/btongminh/mwclient mwclient] ;) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sort by numbers in categories ==<br /> <br /> I noticed that in [[:Category:Comics]] all comics are sorted correctly by numbers; but not in any subcategory. (I didn't really get the explanation of how it works on the comics page.) How to fix this? -- [[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 10:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :&lt;nowiki&gt;The comics template uses a template called num4 that turns the number in the comic number field into a four-digit number. That's then passed as a parameter to the category link, and the comics category page sorts articles by those four-digit numbers instead of their actual names. If we wanted to do the same for other categories, we would have to type them all out as [[Category:Politics|0200]], or whatever the comic number is. I would rather wait for mediawiki to come out with an in-built feature to solve this.&lt;/nowiki&gt; [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Is there a reason that the template applies that directly to [[:Category:Comics]] and not as a default sortkey via DEFAULTSORT? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:10, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Good thinking. Using DEFAULTSORT oughta make it work for all categories. I'll give it a try. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Resize ==<br /> <br /> I haven't been here (to edit) for a while, but have we still not addressed the bug that doesn't allow image resizing? I know most of us don't have access to that kind of lower-level coding on the site, but I think it's a bit of a notable issue that we can't display comics smaller than their actual size. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Take it up with [[User:Jeff]], but I suspect that adding your voice to the already insistent roaring that images are broken isn't going to inspire much change. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incidental Ads ==<br /> <br /> as ive noticed i think you should check if someone has embeded some of your links with ads really annoying please fix<br /> <br /> --[[User:TheWeatherMan|TheWeatherMan]] ([[User talk:TheWeatherMan|talk]]) 14:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)TheWeatherMan<br /> <br /> :Do you have any specific examples of this? By the way, using punctuation, capitalization, spell check, and complete sentences are more likely to get someone to help you. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There is known malware (both adware and viruses) that makes Wikipedia look like it has ads. This wiki uses the same wiki software, so perhaps that malware affects our site too? &amp;ndash;&amp;nbsp;''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 05:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==/wiki/==<br /> Now that explainxkcd redirects straight to the wiki, could we take the /wiki/ out of the url? I'd also like the wiki's edit log to be purged to clean out the history and forget about past spam, but that's probably wishing for too much. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :But seriously, could the /wiki/ go? It'll screw with the spammers for a day or two, at the very least. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Newbie questions: Comic dates, previous-and-next-comic buttons==<br /> Just created the my first page, [[220: Philosophy]], but I could use a little guidance. How do I find the date that an ''xkcd'' comic was originally posted, and how do I rig up the previous-comic and next-comic arrows on a page? (Actually, I've noticed several pages that should have the arrows but don't.) [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Those arrows will automagically insert themselves when you make the adjacent comic explanations. There *is* a little backstage magic that needs to be taken care of, but we can do that for you. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ** OK. How about the dates? [[User:Ekedolphin|Ekedolphin]] ([[User talk:Ekedolphin|talk]]) 11:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Click on &quot;All Comics&quot; in the navbar on left-hand side of the site. The dates are in the form YYYY-MM-DD. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 11:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The comic template checks for the existence of the numerical redirect for the comic before and the comic after. If it finds the page to exist it will display the next/previous button as appropriate. So, by creating the redirects listed on the [[List of all comics]] (third column, only worry about the number and title links) future pages will automatically get the links created. Redirect pages look like &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;#REDIRECT [[####: Comic Title]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; and that's it ([http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1143&amp;redirect=no here] is a link to the redirect page with redirect disabled so you can look at the source to see what I'm talking about). That's all that needs to exist on the number and title redirects. If you feel up to creating them yourself, feel free, otherwise someone else goes through occasionally and mass adds all the missing redirects. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Error message ==<br /> <br /> I've been getting this error message a lot the last cup'o days. When trying to access a page; when trying to save changes on a page. Any ideas on why? I'm getting it on both chrome and firefox.<br /> ::Database error<br /> ::A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br /> ::(SQL query hidden) from within function &quot;Revision::insertOn&quot;. Database returned error &quot;1142: INSERT command denied to user ::'dbo423085716'@'74.208.16.155' for :table 'text' (db423085716.db.1and1.com)&quot;.<br /> –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 22:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Every once in a while I get a SQL error being reported, but usually I can simply F5 and the page comes up. Every once in a while it seems like the server load is just so that somebody gets lucky enough to see the server error out. I don't think there's much we can do about this, other than move the wiki onto a more powerful server. But, there are no ads on this site, there is no revenue model, just a very kind person paying for hosting that keeps this site up. I'm more than willing to overlook a few hiccups for the continuing availability of explain xkcd. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 07:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yeah, I get those too, but St. Nerol was talking about something that happened recently with the server running out of hard drive space and throwing SQL errors every time someone tried to make large edits. I had to find Jeff on twitter because I'd get SQL errors when I tried to edit his talk page. He's looking into history deletion plugins, to clear out our vast archives of deleted spam and obsoleted prototype comic templates. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 08:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Install a caching reverse proxy to handle heavy load ==<br /> <br /> According to returned headers, this server runs from Apache directly. I would recommend setting up a reverse caching proxy in front of Apache to handle high traffic load (like, e.g. current load). The one I use is nginx (http://nginx.org/) -- admins, drop me an email if you need help setting it up [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 21:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The standard software to use is either Squid or Varnish. Nginx is a bit too much of a webserver to be configured in the way MW needs iirc. Although nginx would help with serving the static assets. Unfortunately there will be a need to switch to a proper server first. The site seems to be hosted on shared hosting. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 04:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I had gotten burned before with both Squid and Varnish but Nginx had always kept my systems alive. It's extremely lightweight and works great to fix these kinds of problems. But, of course if it's a shared server where you can't use it, it won't help... [[User:Fry-kun|Fry-kun]] ([[User talk:Fry-kun|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Nginx is a great webserver. It'll serve out static pages much better than Apache. But the issue here isn't the webserver. It's PHP and all the work that the database needs to do on every request. Switching webservers won't get rid of that issue. Using squid/varnish a proper reverse proxying cache will allow complete pages to be cached and served directly to readers bypassing the webserver, php, and the database entirely on some requests. That'll reduce the load the site has to cope with. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 23:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A couple of enwiki features implemented ==<br /> <br /> I have &quot;imported&quot; {{tl|disambig}} and the related [[:Category:Disambiguation pages|category]] for the [[Exoplanets‎‎|one page]] it was needed for (to avoid having a page that was uncategorised :-) ).<br /> <br /> I have also created {{tl|unsigned ip}} (and converted the one use of {{tl|Unsigned}}) and applied it for a handful of existing uses of {{tl|unsigned}}. It hardly matters, but then it's also only three more characters to type for new uses.<br /> <br /> Importantly, however, I implore you to consider including the second datestamp parameter when applying either template -- it's actually the more useful information. I know it's a pain to convert times ''back'' to UTC, but, hey, most of you don't have to deal with a half hour timezone :-) [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 16:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Urrggh, there's an option to make UTC the default display time. The template oughta be a little more automated, mebbe filling the time in automagically with five tildes if no date field is entered? The time will be a bit off when editors fill in the unsigned templates, but it'll be close enough to the actual value. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|#707|David}}&lt;font color=#070 size=3&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=#508 size=4&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 23:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::No, especially while there's existing templates to adjust, where the &quot;default&quot; datestamp would be way out. If someone wants to fix a lot of the existing usage, setting their timezone to UTC is the simplest option. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 09:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading ==<br /> <br /> :''This thread has been moved to [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading|The proposals board]].''<br /> <br /> == Need password reset ==<br /> <br /> Sorry to bother you all, but I seem to have lost the password to this account and don't have an email set (which requires the password). I'm still logged in thanks to the &quot;remember me&quot; feature but after 30 days I'll lose access. This isn't fixable at the MediaWiki level; someone with access to the server mysql or whatever will need to change something. Is there such a person I can email with? [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 03:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I assume your browser isn't remembering it for you? [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] ([[User talk:Markhurd|talk]]) 03:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh wow that was fast. Nope, neither Firefox not OSX keychain access know what it is. [[User:Splainr|Splainr]] ([[User talk:Splainr|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> : I'm not sure how to solve that problem, but I know account usurpation has been done for the single-login transition in Wikimedia wikis, so technically it should be doable. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Miscellaneous 2013-04-16T11:45:18Z

<p>Waldir: /* 1000th comic explanation!! */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == The Community Portal's design ==<br /> <br /> {{tl|Community portal}} looks too Wikipedia-ish (because that's where I got it). Someone who can design things should probably fix that. It isn't protected for the time being, though it probably will be in the future (high-visibility template). --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:54, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Common mistake ==<br /> <br /> This affects all pages that ever say &quot;alt text&quot; in reference to the TITLE text on xkcd images. &quot;Alt text&quot; is incorrect; Alt text refers to the text that is shown as an alternative when images are not displayed. Title text is what xkcd uses and is shown as a tool tip-like bubble when images are hovered over.<br /> <br /> I would correct this myself but I saw no way to edit the main page. --[[User:Jillysky|Jillysky]] ([[User talk:Jillysky|talk]]) 14:21, 6 August 2012‎ (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You actually don't need to edit the main page to fix it, as what's there is just a mirror (transclusion) of the actual content from the comic page, at [[Curiosity]], which is open for editing by anyone. Then again, the &quot;alt-text&quot; in that case is generated by a template, {{tl|comic}}, so that's where we should fix this. The template's code, however, is currently a terrible mess (sorry!), so I went ahead and took care of it. Thanks for catching that! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Ah? So it's wrong, for instance, on http://m.xkcd.com? because of that I took it for granted that we could call it the alt-text... - [[User:Cos|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos|talk]]) 17:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Yes. If you look at the page's html source, you'll see:<br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;img<br /> id=&quot;comic&quot;<br /> src=&quot;http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/curiosity.png&quot;<br /> title=&quot;As of this writing the NASA/JPL websites are still overloaded. Trying CURIOSITY-REAR-CAM_[256px_x_256px].torrent.SwEsUb.DVDRip.XviD-aXXo.jpg instead.&quot;<br /> alt=&quot;Curiosity&quot;&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ::(line breaks added for clarity) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::That was my error in the template. I knew &quot;image text&quot; that has been commonly used by Jeff was not techically correct, but I didn't actually go back and confirm it was alt text before I included that tag in the template. That's to Waldir (I believe?) for correcting the template. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 14:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == When the &quot;official&quot; transcript is wrong? ==<br /> I did [[903: Extended Mind]]. Interestingly, the transcript on xkcd.com is missing the bottom line &quot;When Wikipedia has a server outage, my apparent IQ drops by 30 points.&quot; I assume we want a complete transcript, rather than whatever xkcd.com says it is...? [[User:Stevage|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage|talk]]) 04:10, 17 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :We're focusing on the actual transcript of the comic, not the xkcd.com transcript. The official transcript is usually right, but even Randall makes mistakes sometimes. [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Milestone: half the comics explained!! ==<br /> <br /> Hi all! I'm pleased to announce that we have just broke the 50% mark for xkcd explanations! The page that balanced the count (568 explained, 568 to go, at the time) was [[877: Beauty]], created 01:31 UTC, 21 November 2012 by [[User:Davidy22]]. Congratulations!! :D --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:10, 21 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The caterer's been called! The punch will be arriving soon! Go [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]]! [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::[[File:freedom.png]] Punch is served! [[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;(talk)&lt;/tt&gt;]] 07:11, 21 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> But the Main page says 407 explanations, 731 to go! What's up with that? --[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 21:00, 23 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reverse? ==<br /> <br /> Why in the Archive why are all the thing up until &quot;Heatmap&quot; in Reverse? Can someone please answer? [[User:Tmack3|Tmack3]] ([[User talk:Tmack3|talk]]) 08:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :Archive? Can you provide a link or screenshot? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> http://xkcd.com/archive/ [[User:Tmack3|Tmack3]] ([[User talk:Tmack3|talk]]) 08:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ah, that's because the comic right after that, rtl, has a right-to-left character in it that flips all the proceeding text. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 00:13, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ah, ok, i see that now. When I 1st saw that RTL I just thought that it was random letters, thankyou for explaining it for me. [[User:Tmack3|Tmack3]] ([[User talk:Tmack3|talk]]) 08:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> It also depends on what browser you are on because on Google Chrome it was normal. [[User:Tmack3|Tmack3]] ([[User talk:Tmack3|talk]]) 09:08, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Do you think this question was asked by one of the xkcd people? ==<br /> <br /> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090301060752AAtYugc [[User:Tmack3|Tmack3]] ([[User talk:Tmack3|talk]]) 08:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Matthew Reilly ==<br /> <br /> I would just like to tell everyone that I asked Matthew Reilly (the author) if he is ever scared that a velociraptor is going to attack him, and he said NO! He clearly needs to start worrying about them! [[User:Tmack3|Tmack3]] ([[User talk:Tmack3|talk]]) 10:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What can we learn section ==<br /> First of all I love your work. I believe deeper understanding of each XKCD can make a world a better place and I thank you sincerely for starting this webpage. I wanted to ask what you think about &quot;What can we learn?&quot; section I've been adding to some of the pages. Thank you - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 13:27, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This site is actually the work of multiple editors working slowly and steadily to fill in explanations for all the old comics. Some of the xkcd comics are incredibly deep - comic [[956]] is such a poignant comic that digs into the DRM issue on so many levels. Your reflections on many of the comics are very much warranted and you're helping us create talk pages with high-quality opening posts, which is great for future discussion on this wiki. It'd be nice if you could refrain from putting headers in talk pages, technical limitations of the wiki make long explanation pages choke when headings are in the discussion page. Other than that, keep up the good work! '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I've put in my 2 cents to comic [[956]], and thank you for teaching me how to comment and link to other comics - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 13:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: FYI, you can always make pseudo-headings using a horizontal rule and a bold &quot;header&quot;, but honestly I think a simple standard opening sentence would suffice. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Oh, and the guy who draws xkcd is called {{w|Randall Munroe}}. So many glowing things to be said about him. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yes, I can't thank him enough for simplifying complex issues to funny stories, I think it's exactly what our generation needs - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 13:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm in favor of a Mr. Rogers style of 'what lesson can be learned' on the talk page, but make sure your comments don't come across as sanctimonious and holier-than-thou as that can be really off-putting. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 19:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You are absolutely correct, I have not thought of that, please trust me I did not do it on purpose. Thank you Mr. Lcarsos - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 19:55, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thank you David, and I apologize that I've not made it clear that by your work, I do mean your collective work (the wiki is only as good as all the people behind it). I was trying to put the headers to allow others to find the section easier in case they start looking for it, perhaps I could make a suggestion to make it a standalone section so that others would be encouraged to contribute their own understanding of lessons they have noticed from each comic. I know the lessons I've seen, but I would love to learn from others as much as I hope they can learn from me and Mr. XKCD, thank you. - [[User:E-inspired|E-inspired]] ([[User talk:E-inspired|talk]]) 13:48, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD ==<br /> <br /> Hello fellow editors. Do you remember the last time we were hit by a surge of automated spam? Neither do I. ConfirmEdit has really done a number on the volume of spam that we're eating - one spam account has been created since we finished configuring confirmEdit, and zero anon edits have been spam. Zero. Can you say happiness? Can you say party? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hehe, I'm glad! Thanks for being so relentless on the spam-fighting all this time! Maybe we should make up a new reason to make Jeff remove the /wiki/ in the URL? ;) –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 18:11, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Awesome news! Finally the patrolling feature will be usable: [{{fullurl:Special:RecentChanges|hideanons=1&amp;hidepatrolled=1&amp;from=20121204025000&amp;days=365&amp;limit=1000}} Unpatrolled changes by registered users] / [{{fullurl:Special:RecentChanges|hideliu=1&amp;hidepatrolled=1&amp;from=20121204025000&amp;days=365&amp;limit=1000}} Unpatrolled changes by anonymous users] :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:27, 2 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 1000th comic explanation!! ==<br /> <br /> Hi all! It apparently went unnoticed that '''we have recently surpassed the mark of 1000 comic explanations!''' Some calculations based on [[:Category:Comics]] and [[Special:NewPages]] led me to the conclusion that the 1000th explanation was [[681: Gravity Wells]], created by [[User:AlexRNL]] just yesterday! Yay! This calls for a celebration, no? Congrats to [[Special:ContributionScores|everyone]] who made this happen! I'll edit [[Mediawiki:Sitenotice]] with a congratulatory message. Way to go, guys! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :ps - I also took the opportunity to flesh out our [[explain xkcd|about/history page]]. Please take a look and fix/add any details I might have missed. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:06, 10 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice 2013-04-16T11:44:33Z

<p>Waldir: enough celebrating, there are more milestones to reach :D</p> <hr /> <div></div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:796:_Bad_Ex 2013-04-16T11:41:47Z

<p>Waldir: Created page with &quot;Interestingly, the Abstruse Goose webcomic (which is fairly similar to xkcd) also published a comic regarding a similar idea, called [http://abstrusegoose.com/114 iScreener]. ...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Interestingly, the Abstruse Goose webcomic (which is fairly similar to xkcd) also published a comic regarding a similar idea, called [http://abstrusegoose.com/114 iScreener]. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 11:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Waldir 2013-04-16T11:29:57Z

<p>Waldir: /* ToDo */</p> <hr /> <div>I'm [[wikipedia:meta:user:waldir|User:Waldir]] on several Wikimedia projects and I've been commenting on the blog as &quot;Waldir&quot;. Here on the wiki I've made {{#cscore:Waldir|changes}} edits.<br /> <br /> ==ToDo==<br /> <br /> ; recurring maintenance tasks:<br /> * [[Special:UncategorizedCategories]]<br /> * [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]]<br /> * [[Special:UncategorizedPages]]<br /> * [[Special:WantedCategories]]<br /> * [[Special:DeadendPages]]<br /> * [[Special:LonelyPages]]<br /> * [[Special:WantedFiles]]<br /> * [[Special:DoubleRedirects]]<br /> * [[Special:UnusedTemplates]]<br /> * [[Special:WantedPages]]<br /> * convert [[Special:LinkSearch/en.wikipedia.org|wikipedia links]] to use the {{tl|w}} template.<br /> * [{{fullurl:Special:RecentChanges|hideanons=1&amp;hidepatrolled=1&amp;from=20121204025000&amp;days=365&amp;limit=1000}} Unpatrolled changes by registered users]<br /> * [{{fullurl:Special:RecentChanges|hideliu=1&amp;hidepatrolled=1&amp;from=20121204025000&amp;days=365&amp;limit=1000}} Unpatrolled changes by anonymous users]<br /> <br /> ; sysop one-time tasks<br /> * Style the wiki! Example of what can be done: http://setiquest.org/wiki<br /> * Edit text shown when someone tries to edit the main page to say that the actual comic page can be changed<br /> * Add Menu-to-tabs gadget<br /> * Add 6tabs gadget<br /> * Links to add to sidebar: Browse comics (category:comics)<br /> <br /> ; non-sysop one-time tasks<br /> * use lowercase xkcd everywhere on the wiki (see [http://xkcd.com/about/ How do I write &quot;xkcd&quot;?])<br /> * Use a single template for comic pages!<br /> ** {{tl|comic}}, {{tl|ComicHeader}}, {{tl|comicbox}}...<br /> ** The code needs to be human-readable!<br /> * Use a local help/FAQ page and link it from the sidebar rather than mediawiki's vanilla help which isn't very friendly.<br /> * {{tl|comic}} should add a zero-padded DEFAULTSORT<br /> <br /> ; content<br /> * Topics to cover/mention: our [https://twitter.com/explainxkcd twitter account] the xkcd irc channel (and [http://wiki.xkcd.com its wiki]), the blag, the forum, other sites explaining xkcd ([http://xkcdexplained.com/], [http://xkcd.wikia.com], [http://xkcdexplained.wikia.com], [http://xkcdexplainedexplained.tumblr.com/archive], maybe invite members+content of the other wikis in once we're established?), etc.<br /> * http://www.explainxkcd.com/category/wikipedia/ vs. [[:Category:Wikipedia]]<br /> <br /> ; bot edits:<br /> * rename comic pages to &quot;number: title&quot; (on hold until consensus in page title format is reached)<br /> * rename section &quot;Description&quot; to &quot;Explanation&quot;<br /> * add {{tl|Comic discussion}} to all comic pages<br /> * remove unused &lt;code&gt;imagesize=&lt;/code&gt; parameter from {{tl|comic}} (it's on the documentation in case anyone needs it)<br /> * add redirects from 1.png, etc, to the actual filenames<br /> * Add links to original comics from xkcd (and hotlink to images). Also, format image pages in standard fashion (comic images, characters...)<br /> <br /> ; server-side:<br /> * [[mw:Extension:Comments|Extension:Comments]]<br /> * Try to get a rendered feed of Special:NewPages, instead of [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:NewPages&amp;feed=rss]<br /> ** Maybe it would really be a good idea to move comics to a comic namespace, otherwise spam pages would crop up. Besides, even without spam, other non-comic but otherwise valid wiki pages would show too... An alternative solution is using a custom rendering engine other than mediawiki, then page title patterns could be enforced. Finally, add RSS link on sidebar.<br /> * Related to above: a &quot;comic&quot; namespace would allow us to set global protection of main namespace against anonymous edits, thus hopefully cutting down on spam.</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Jeff 2013-04-15T03:10:52Z

<p>Waldir: Reverted edits by 112.111.185.212 (talk) to last revision by Jeff</p> <hr /> <div>{{notice|This is the talk page of Jeff, the creator of Explain XKCD. If you have a comment about the wiki, please use the [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]].&lt;br&gt;Use this page only for personal messages to Jeff, of for requests that require server access.}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> == ParserFunctions ==<br /> <br /> Hi Jeff,<br /> <br /> Just thought I'd run this up the flagpole... any thought about installing the ParserFunctions extension? I think this site could benefit from a few templates that would aid in indexing/categorizing the entries as content is migrated, and ParserFunctions would make some really impressive things possible... but installing any extension or not would be up to you.<br /> <br /> Also, do you have any feelings about us users creating templates in the Template namespace, which we could use to maintain the content? Just wanted to get your thumbs-up before/if I did something like that. Just want to play nice. Love the site, and the new wiki format.<br /> <br /> - PT [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 03:05, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :ParserFunctions are awesome, yup! --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 06:56, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::{{done}} Yes to both. I have enabled ParserFunctions and Templates sound like a great idea. IronyChef, please send me an email at the address on the blog and I'll make you an admin if necessary to edit templates. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 08:03, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Extension:Variable ==<br /> Just wondering what you thought about adding the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables Variables extension]. I'm toying with revising {{tl|LATESTCOMIC}} to not be so expensive (both in terms of template expansion, and ongoing maintenance.) I could do that now, but the wiki would have to re-expand and re-evaluate the same expression about six times, being slightly counter-productive. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 14:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: any thoughts ... up, down, sideways? Thanks! -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: I'm up for it... Let me get it installed on the wiki side when I get a chance. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 23:13, 3 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bugging you again.... ==<br /> <br /> Could you take a look at [//www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?limit=10000&amp;tagfilter=&amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;contribs=user&amp;target=Philosopher&amp;namespace=8&amp;year=&amp;month=-1] and tell me if I'm thinking in about the same way as you are here? Also, I've brought up [[MediaWiki:Tagline]] and [[Explain XKCD:Community portal]], as it'd be cool to have a tagline. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 10:46, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :With you 100% on the File Delete reasons. Thanks. I agree also about having a tagline. What do you think it should be? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 11:13, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::Nothing's coming to mind right now. Perhaps someone else will think of something. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:54, 2 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> &lt;small&gt;Discussion continued at [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Tagline]].&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Automatic Import ==<br /> Moved to [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Automatic Import]]. (Header left to avoid breaking links.) --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:30, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Please watch [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Administrators' noticeboard]] ==<br /> <br /> I'd like to ask that the admins consider adding [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Administrators' noticeboard]] to their [[wikipedia:Help:Watching pages|watchlists]]. On a similar note, I've just started a discussion there about spammers. -''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Images from Wikimedia Commons and SVG ==<br /> Please set &lt;code&gt;$wgUseInstantCommons = true;&lt;/code&gt; in the wiki's LocalSettings.php, so we can use images from Wikimedia Commons without having to reupload them here.<br /> Also, I'd be neat if you could [[mw:Manual:Image Administration#SVG|enable svg images]]. Thanks! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 04:20, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> : {{done}}, Instant Commons is on. Will need a little more work to get SVG images to work. What renderer to do you suggest I use? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: That'll depend on what you have available in your server. They say there that ImageMagick seems to be an acceptable choice, but rsvg seems to be the best one if the dependencies can be sorted out. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 13:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Search suggestions ==<br /> <br /> Hi,<br /> <br /> could you please set $wgEnableMWSuggest [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableMWSuggest] to true? This enables search suggestions for the search field, and often this helps you to skip the search results. --[[User:SlashMe|SlashMe]] ([[User talk:SlashMe|talk]]) 09:10, 4 August 2012 (EDT)<br /> :{{done}} OK, this is has been added to the LocalSettings. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Time zone ==<br /> <br /> Please set the wiki to UTC (&lt;tt&gt;$wgLocaltimezone = &quot;UTC&quot;;&lt;/tt&gt; in LocalSettings.php), as it's the most neutral option for our international community. In any case, each user can choose their time zone in their preferences.<br /> :{{done}} Ok, set. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Short urls, site logo, lowercase xkcd ==<br /> <br /> Hi,<br /> I'm not sure if you tried it but http://shorturls.redwerks.org is a great (and simple :D) tool to implement clean urls with mediawiki. That would make urls much nicer around here.<br /> <br /> Also, if you could, please take a look at [[Explain XKCD:Community portal/Proposals#Naming conventions]], where your assistance is needed for some server changes. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hi again :) just to remind you about the short urls thing. I think it would be great if we could have wiki links in the form &quot;explainxkcd.com/wiki/link_title&quot;. It might be necessary to move the wiki into a different folder name than &quot;wiki&quot;, but that's just a matter of renaming the folder and changing &lt;code&gt;$wgScriptPath&lt;/code&gt; in LocalSettings.php accordingly. The link above makes things really straighforward, it should really only take you a few minutes to set everything up.<br /> :Another cool thing that could be done is set up a server redirect so that links in the form of explainxkcd.com/number would point to the comics in the wiki instead of returning a 404 error (for instance, http://explainxkcd.com/123 would point to http://explainxkcd.com/wiki/123). That way, we could replicate xkcd's own url system for comics and people could simply type explainxkcd.com/123 and get the explanation for the corresponding comic. This redirect can probably be set up in the hosting company's web interface, but in case it can't, let me know if you need any help. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 22:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Hi Waldir - I'll work on the short URL thing. I want that to work for sure. With regards to the redirect, I have been working on it for a while and I have a few .htaccess files and etc that don't work. I'll be grateful for the help on it. Please send me an email if you know how to get it done. This would also allow anyone from xkcd.com/435 to just add explain and go to the comic explanation. Very helpful. Been working on it unsuccessfully for a while. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::Ugh, it must be my hosting because I did all of the shorturls correctly it just sent it to a 404 page for the site over and over again. The url seemed to be the right one, but didn't send it to the right location. It should NOT be this difficult. --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 02:25, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == wgCapitalLinks ==<br /> <br /> Hi Jeff! When you have a few spare minutes, please add the following to LocalSettings.php:<br /> $wgCapitalLinks = false;<br /> This allows page titles not to be automatically capitalized by the software, which is important for filenames and for some comic titles such as [[s/keyboard/leopard/]]. Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :{{done}} --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::...and this broke our templates (and maybe [[Special:RecentChanges]]?). See [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Admin requests]]. Can't we just style the page titles so they appear as though they aren't capitalized when they really are? (As done at [[wikipedia:Xkcd]], using the DISPLAYTITLE magic word (called through [[wikipedia:Template:DISPLAYTITLE]]).) --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]''&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]&lt;/sup&gt; 04:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::Looks like transition pains would be inevitable. I think everything is sorted out for now. See the Admin requests thread for details. As for using DISPLAYTITLE, I understand the rationale, but this is xkcd and attention to capitalization is necessary in several pages, and I believe we'd rather use a complete solution (so that pages actually have the correct title) rather than hacking what is shown to viewers. In any case, we shouldn't have many problems in the future because of this; People will only capitalize the first letter of a title when it's actually necessary; otherwise, lazyness/convenience makes us all use lowercase everywhere (besides, redirects can be used just in case, such as {{tl|yesno}} → {{tl|YesNo}}. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 09:06, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External Images ==<br /> <br /> Has there actually been a decision on external images? Or is it just to be decided later? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> : No decision yet. What do you think? --[[User:Jeff|Jeff]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, the whitelisting seems an OK idea. This would help you save space on the servers that you are hosting on, so that's a plus.&lt;br /&gt;I say go for whitelisting.--[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 77%&quot;&gt;Mostly I am wondering because I created a PHP script that creates an image to display the results of a poll (like on the Moving the Wiki topic in Proposals). For my situation any method of something external being placed on this site will work.&lt;/span&gt;<br /> ::'''I just''' got an idea... what if there was a group of moderators that check external images and approve them. The more approvals a person gets, the more &quot;reliable&quot; they are considered to be... ? --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == Short Link Problem Fix? ==<br /> <br /> Is &lt;code&gt;mod_rewrite&lt;/code&gt; installed and enabled?&lt;br /&gt;<br /> [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache MW ShortURL]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Are all of the config files (including the wiki one) set up?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Grep|grep]]:[[User_talk:Grep|talk]]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=p&amp;f=ex_grep applaud]:[http://arthurmigdal.com/vote/vote.php?a=c&amp;f=ex_grep smite]<br /> <br /> == New admin please? ==<br /> <br /> This is a bit forthright of me, but nothing appears to be being done about it. Would you read this [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Proposals#Spampage Rampage]] and comment on it? Thanks, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] and the community 17:47, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Small change ==<br /> <br /> Hi Jeff! Long time no see. Look, could you add<br /> :&lt;code&gt;$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['autopatrol'] = true;&lt;/code&gt;<br /> to LocalSettings.php? That will allow edits by [[mw:auto-confirmed|auto-confirmed]] users not to be marked with a red exclamation mark in recent changes so we can more quickly spot edits that might need reviewing. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 02:16, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Btw while you're at it, please also add<br /> ::&lt;code&gt;$wgAllowUserJs = true;&lt;/code&gt;<br /> ::&lt;code&gt;$wgAllowUserCss = true;&lt;/code&gt;<br /> :So users can make their own scripts and styles to enhance the wiki (I need that, for instance, to test stuff without affecting anyone else, before integrating them on site-wide javascript/css pages) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 16:52, 22 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> {{done}} and {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 19:55, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Thanks! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 19:57, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Sorry, I forgot a small detail: it is necessary to set up the following so that &quot;auto-confirmed&quot; doesn't mean &quot;any registered user&quot;:<br /> :: &lt;code&gt;$wgAutoConfirmAge = 60*60*24*3 // accounts become auto-confirmed after 3 days&lt;/code&gt;<br /> :: &lt;code&gt;$wgAutoConfirmCount = 10 // ...and 10 edits&lt;/code&gt;<br /> :: Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:32, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 21:49, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: Thanks, again. Also, since the wiki didn't break, I take it that you noticed the missing semicolons which I stupidly forgot to include at the end of the lines, and added them. Sorry for the slip-up. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:31, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: No worries, I know that much at least! :) --[[User:Jeff|&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:36, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Did you by any chance write &quot;auto patrol&quot; instead of &quot;autopatrol&quot;? [[Special:ListGroupRights]] suggests so, and if that's the case, that explains why the changes don't seem to have had the effects I expected from them (edits by auto-patrolled users still marked with the red exclamation mark in Special:RecentChanges). Could you check that the line reads exactly &lt;code&gt;$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['autopatrol'] = true;&lt;/code&gt;? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:54, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> : That's what I thought I put even though autocorrect wanted to change it. Can't look now, will have a look when I get home. ---[[User:Jeff|&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :: Any news? No pressure, I'm just curious :) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 15:34, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::: Bah - I keep forgetting when I get home. I'll try to get it done this weekend. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :::: Much delayed, but {{done}} --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 02:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Thanks, Jeff. I'll let you know if there's any further issues, but I believe everything should be working now. --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 03:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Links to category pages ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice the number of your edits to your page. You can link to category pages by putting a colon in front of &quot;Category&quot;. &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;[[:Category:Pages to delete]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt; produces [[:Category:Pages to delete]]. It also doesn't add the category to that page, it just links to it. Cheers, [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:30, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> : Oh geez. You saw that? That's a little embarrassing with not knowing what to do, I kept trying to figure out how to put the link there. Thanks for the help! I couldn't find that information anywhere. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 17:31, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::When I had to learn about that trick the edits on that page looked fairly similar. I eventually found the right page [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links] (ctrl+f &quot;category&quot;, it's buried) and managed it. I have the Recent Changes page set to auto-refresh every minute. I see a few things. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 17:43, 30 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Your opinion? ==<br /> <br /> Please comment [[explain xkcd:Community portal/Technical#We need more maintainers|here]]. Cheers, [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Update: we've been offered help by [[mediawiki:User:Dantman|an experienced MediaWiki developer]], I think we can finally solve the server-side issues now! Please take a look at the thread linked above. [[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 20:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I am really dumb ==<br /> <br /> and this morning, while creating a user name, I goofed it and wrote .mau, (with a trailing comma) instead of .mau. (with a trailing dot, which is my trademark). I know that a bureaucrat on MediaWiki can change a username which had few edits (my own edits are three including this one): could you do this, or at least delete this username so that I may recreate it without leaving a dead one? TIA, [[User:.mau,|.mau,]] ([[User talk:.mau,|talk]]) 15:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :You can actually change your signature to .mau. if you want, to mask that for now. Just make a page called User:.mau,/sig and craft your signature to your liking, then go to my preferences at the top and set your sig to &lt;nowiki&gt;{{SUBST:User:.mau,/sig}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. If you want an example, [[User:Lcarsos/sig]] is a near-vanilla and quite clean example of a custom sig, while [[User:Omega/sig]] and my sig, [[User:Davidy22/sig]] are slightly more tricked-out options. Wikipedia's guidelines to signature crafting are {{w|Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing_your_signature|here.}} '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 15:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::ok, thanks! [[User:.mau,|.mau.]] ([[User talk:.mau,|talk]]) 09:55, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Aw, that's it? No bling or anything? Meeehhh. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:16, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> :(to Jeff) I believe user renaming is not possible in vanilla mediawiki. An extension is required: [[mw:Extension:Renameuser]] --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 18:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::I find a bit disturbing to have a &quot;wrong&quot; username, especially because I may not remember it somewhen (yes, the word does not exist, but I like its sound); but I don't need any flashy signature, so I just changed the traling comma to a dot. --[[User:.mau,|.mau.]] ([[User talk:.mau,|talk]]) 14:09, 18 January 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==/wiki/==<br /> Now that the site apparently redirects to the wiki, could the entire wiki URL just be explainxkcd.com, without the trailing wiki? It's mostly for cleanliness, but also to throw off the spambots for a while. Those accursed spam happy bots. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 04:29, 4 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> : Sounds good, I'm working on that part next. It is next on my &quot;to-do&quot; list complete some URL work like that. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::''nag''. Also, the spam is becoming an issue. A pretty big issue. Time to switch captchas? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::: OK - sounds good to me, any ones you recommend? --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 13:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: I don't remember which captcha the wiki uses, but I know securimage and recaptcha are two very competent options. Alternately, you could use [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] to screen anon edits. Much of the spam seems to be automated, so questycaptcha should screen out most of the chaff. Just simple questions, like &quot;What webcomic does this site explain&quot; or &quot;Who created XKCD&quot; should be sufficient to screw up our current spammers. Also, rm /wiki/ plx. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::Confirm edit is in and Recaptcha is out. Let's try that. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 14:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The questions appear to be case-sensitive. To avoid frustration, could you add a notice to every question saying that the answers have to be in all lower/upper case? I got &quot;What's the name of this wiki&quot; wrong a bunch of times, and I think it's due to capitalization. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Ok - cool. I changed it to $wgSitename instead of just writing it out. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 14:32, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::If we get no spam tomorrow, I will hold a party in your talk page. Oh, and /wiki/. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::I'll just hijack this thread and ask: Isn't it time Davidy22 got admin tools? It's long overdue. And please promote Lcarsos‏‎ to bureaucrat, so he can make new admins if needed. And seconded: &lt;code&gt;/wiki/&lt;/code&gt; ! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 02:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::Could you also put confirmEdit in general page creation for anonymous users? There's still a couple of spam pages being made that don't actually advertise anything. There hasn't been an account creation in a long time, so I think we've killed off the spam accounts. The rate of spam has definitely dropped significantly ever since we switched to confirmEdit. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:42, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::We've just had a surge of pure griefer spam. Anons who don't insert any links, they're just throwing spam at us out of malice. Could you make anonymous users have to pass through confrimEdit to create pages? Thanks. On a side note, what's the ratio in terms of file size between current explanation pages to logs and diffs? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 01:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::Wow those suck. Wiping out whole pages with anon edits. I can't change the settings from here, but I'll do it when I get home. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by filesize? --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 15:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::Eh, how much space do explanations and images take up on your hard drive when compared to the space that log files and diffs take up? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; title=&quot;I want you&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;4px&quot;&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 16:01, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Promote Davidy22 ==<br /> <br /> :''Breaking this discussion out from where it was, because it merits its own section. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]])''<br /> I'll just hijack this thread and ask: Isn't it time Davidy22 got admin tools? It's long overdue. And please promote lcarsos‏‎ to bureaucrat, so he can make new admins if needed. And seconded: &lt;code&gt;/wiki/&lt;/code&gt; ! --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 02:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :'''Heartily Agree''' on promoting Davidy22, he's almost always more on top of spam patrol than I am these days (burn-out for the lose). I'm not sure I can speak for my own promotion without sounding self-serving and power-hungry. However, in my few spare moments this semester I am looking closely at getting a bot up and running to automate the clean up of spam (mostly because manual spam patrol is the most soul-sucking and disheartening activity I've ever done), so it would be nice to be able to get a bot account promoted to bot status without misrepresenting it as my account. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 18:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :: Davidy22 is up to admin (honestly, I thought he was already one, so no issue there on my end.) and lcarsos has been updated to bureaucrat because we should have more redundancy there. Also, create a bot account and let me know what it is and i'll give it bot rights. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :: Or now, you can do it! :) --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 18:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::WOO, power! '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;span title=&quot;I want you.&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot; size=&quot;2px&quot;&gt;David&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; size=&quot;3px&quot;&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;indigo&quot; size=&quot;1px&quot;&gt;22&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:42, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Small ConfirmEdit change ==<br /> <br /> Can you change the line:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;$wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = false;&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> to true? I think this would solve most of our bot vandalism/griefing problems. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]]&lt;span title=&quot;I'm an admin. I can help.&quot;&gt;_a&lt;/span&gt; ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 21:19, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> :: {{done}} I changed 'edit' to true as well since we've seen a bunch when editing user's talk pages. We will see if I have to move that back to false. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == DeleteOldRevisions ==<br /> <br /> There's a script built into mediawiki called DeleteOldRevisions.php that seems to have deprecated the deletehistory plugin. A link to the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:DeleteOldRevisions.php manual page.] A hard drive upgrade would be apt for the future though. '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 00:15, 20 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> : I'm looking into it. I'm not sure how the wiki got back up and running without me running the update. I'll try the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DeleteHistory] and see if that can help in the meantime. The expanded HD might be a no-go, but I'll see on that too. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 01:27, 20 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Server Hardware==<br /> The website is getting really slow and throwing internal errors all over the place, and it looks like both the main page and the page for the newest comic [[1190: Time]] are climbing rapidly in views. If one ambiguous comic is hitting us like a DDoS, we're going to get it in the shorts if Randall ever actually acknowledges our existence directly, or some other geeky media outlet posts a link to us. Is there a donate button anywhere? '''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 05:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> : We certainly can get a Donate button. We may need to migrate the server to get it upgraded. This is one of those big days, I guess. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 12:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :: How about a Kickstarter or Indiegogo campaign? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 12:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::Kickstarter and Indiegogo are one-time things. No good for this. I recommend modifying the donate button so that there is a PayPal &quot;Subscribe&quot; button near it so people can also do small monthly subscriptions. I recommend a dropdown with $1, $2, $5, $10, $20 options.<br /> :::Does 1&amp;1 give you stats like how much bandwidth (or rather how much data) you are using. That could have an effect on where is best to get the new hosting; Rackspace Cloud, Linode, AWS, or even a real server with access to other network options like paying for actual Mbps bandwidth with unlimited data.<br /> :::When you get a server I'd like to properly set it up with varnish, nginx, apc (or Zend_Optimizer+ considering it's going to be part of php 5.5), memcached, and perhaps php-fpm instead of mod_php. Varnish will allow anonymous pages to be cached hopefully reducing the load issues. And nginx should serve out static things better than Apache. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] ([[User talk:Dantman|talk]]) 05:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::: Regarding the Paypal button, besides the subscribe option, I would recommend removing the credit card logos, as they make it too wide for the sidebar and not fit the design well. Besides, I personally think they give it kind of a corporate feel; instead, a simple &quot;donate&quot; button, while still recognizable as paypal's, feels simpler and more &quot;personal&quot;, for lack of a better word.<br /> :::: Also, I think you should place it above the AdSense block, since that makes it more visible, and prioritizes a form of supporting the site that people have direct, active control over, rather than the passive, choice-less (modulo AdBlock) AdSense.<br /> :::: And also capitalize &quot;donate&quot; in the section title, to match the other titles (&quot;Navigation&quot;, &quot;Toolbox&quot;, etc.)<br /> :::: Since we're at it: maybe more donation options would make sense: [//flattr.com Flattr], [//gittip.com Gittip], [//tiptheweb.org/ TipTheWeb], and possibly [//bitcoin.org/ Bitcoins].<br /> :::: Finally, is it possible to make the AdSense background transparent, or at least the same as the site background of #F3F3F3? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 14:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::Is it possible to add the ad and donate buttons without including a section title? Minimizing unused space is gooood. Also, I noticed that you installed the deletehistory plugin, but it's trying to use another version of PHP that's installed on the server. deleteoldrevisions.php in the maintenance folder oughta work fine, though it'd probably be apt to run it over the weekend when we're not expecting absurd floods of visitors like we are now. We may need it too, after we've filled up the hard drive again with archives of Time.'''[[User:Davidy22|&lt;u&gt;{{Color|purple|David}}&lt;font color=green size=3px&gt;y&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;font color=indigo size=4px&gt;²²&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[User talk:Davidy22|&lt;tt&gt;[talk]&lt;/tt&gt;]] 14:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::: Yes, it is possible for me to edit, I will have to go into the settings for each since I used extensions for them. I hate the credit card things too. Will take a look at all options tonight.<br /> :::::: The Deletehistory plugin doesn't work, sadly because of the PHP version. Hopefully, when we migrate, it will be on a newer version and that will work. Hopefully, we will have more disk space too... --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]])<br /> ::::: Hey Jeff. Could you change the width of the paypal donate button so that it matches the google ads and the bitcoin donate button? Maybe using a custom button rather than the paypal-provided one?<br /> ::::: Also, any news regarding the possibility of changing the background of the google ads? --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 17:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :::::: It did not work out with Google ads for a reason they will not disclose to me, but I'll work on the buttons and the banner ad. --[[User:Jeff|&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;Jeff&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Jeff|talk]]) 16:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

Waldir http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Proposals 2013-04-14T11:57:56Z

<p>Waldir: /* I've removed &quot;add a comment!&quot; from Discussion heading */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{Community portal}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> == Spampage Rampage ==<br /> Hail fellow admins, Jeff, distinguished editors all,<br /> <br /> We've just been through a second spike of spam, (the first being around the 1110 Click and Drag comic) so as your friendly Angel of Death to such spammery, I'd like to open the floor to discussion on strategies to deal with the issue.<br /> <br /> Personally, I don't mind the role of grim reaper for these miscreants, but I'd also prefer that it doesn't grow in magnitude; of late, I find myself almost exclusively dealing with the matter, leaving little enough time to enjoy the site, let alone contributing to it. Anything we can do to keep things under control would be appreciated.<br /> <br /> So far, the spam comes in these flavors:<br /> * One-timers. New users that create their own user page, oddly alike (couldn't be a spam-bot, eh?) always linking to &quot;their&quot; website. By far the biggest percentage of time the scythe falls, it falls on these.<br /> ** Two-timers. A variant of above, except they create one or two additional pages, typically the user's talk page, or a page same as the username, but not in the user namespace. Here too, quickly dispatched across the Styx.<br /> * IPersonators: IP users that create faux user (and other) pages. Second largest group, though this trend has been growing, especially during this recent onslaught.<br /> ** A particularly insidious variant: IPersonators creating or modifying a real users' page. I've been pretty careful, so far, to track down the author, and block ''them'' (as opposed to assuming author = user) but I can see how this flavor of spam risks accidental blocking of legit contributors, which would be doubleplusungood.<br /> * Jibberish vandal: Somebody creating content that isn't spam, but just repeated ''asdf'' or ''ghjkl'' content. Treated as above, though I don't call this spam in the logs. My guess is that this is a spam-bot under development. Fairly infrequent, and addressed using techniques as for above.<br /> <br /> There are a few other one-off types, too, which I won't bother elaborating here.<br /> <br /> So, the open-ended question stands: What do we do?<br /> <br /> # There has been a suggestion to block IP-only contributors (ie must log in) ... perhaps only on an as-needed basis.<br /> # Another thought would be to (by some as-yet unspecified means) prevent the creation, or cause the timely deletion, of user pages by other than said user.)<br /> # Restricting external links (by a similarly as-yet-unspecified means) either to a specified approved white-list, or by a specified set of contributors (must have made more than n edits, for example.)<br /> # Other thoughts? Let the discussion unfold...<br /> <br /> No solution is likely to be perfect; this is a matter of raising the bar to where whatever processed meat can crest over it can be most easily managed... all without being so draconian that we compromise the appeal of the site.<br /> <br /> All said, I have no problems with the grim reaper enterprise, but would like to spend more time in the [[User:IronyChef/TestKitchen|kitchen]], and less in the [[Special:Log/block|dumpster]].<br /> <br /> A little postscript to put the issue into perspective: the ''top four contributors'', (as per Active Users as I write this) are as follows:<br /> * Lcarsos [169 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Davidy22 [282 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Bpothier [298 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * IronyChef [433 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> I can tell you that of my four-hundred plus edits, only about a dozen have not been spam related. Lcarsos and Davidy22 are two ace spam-seeking deputies, so a large part of their edits involve tagging pages with the spam template, not (as I'm sure they'd prefer) actually chiming in on matters xkcd. The rest of the field: not even close in terms of edit magnitude. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 15:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was going to suggest a range block, but the IP addresses com from everywhere. The only pattern I can see is in the 83.&lt;25 range. We could also change the captcha to cut into the bots for a little while. Another suggestion would be to create every explanation page, then mark the unfinished ones with the &lt;nowiki&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; template, if that exists in this wiki. Then we can block anonymous page creation without having to worry about stopping anonymous users from creating new explanations. We'll have to make a few modifications to the site, to instruct users on how to find pages in need of explanations, but it'll kill all the userpage and self-help spambots. We can figure out how to deal with vandalism later - I would recommend implementing wikipedia's cluebot to automagically roll back page clearing and the like. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 23:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Also, we can semi-protect important pages like categories and templates. Chances are, anonymous users aren't familiar enough with wikis to be handling those anyways, and wiki veteran anonymous users will probably make an account. [[User:Davidy22|Davidy22]] ([[User talk:Davidy22|talk]]) 09:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ... ''Madame la Guillotine'' has been busy, dealing with no less than four dozen spammified pages and their attendant contributors in the last hour, to address a third spike in spam. Our hyper-contributing editors have been helping identify these malefactors, so the process has been fairly straight-forward on my part, but it's awfully quiet here....<br /> <br /> The top five contributors, as of this writing, are:<br /> * Divad27182 [133 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Davidy22 [202 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Lcarsos [207 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * Bpothier [267 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> * IronyChef [537 edits in the last 30 days]<br /> <br /> Number six is comes in at less than half of Divad's, and the curve decays precipitiously from there... so this is becoming a call to arms for admins to convene and discuss, ''or'' Jeff to anoint other, more active contributors, admin status.<br /> <br /> Thoughts?<br /> <br /> -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 06:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Would it be possible to volunteer to be another admin to move some of the load off of IronyChef? It feels slightly cruel and unusual for him to be the only active admin, and thus ad-hoc in charge of keeping the engines running. [[User:Lcarsos|lcarsos]] ([[User talk:Lcarsos|talk]]) 06:16, 31 October 2012 (U