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[[Megan]] and [[Cueball]] are being haunted by a ghost dedicated to making people feel old. It seems to be like the strips [[891: Movie Ages]] and [[973: MTV Generation]] and the blag post [http://blog.xkcd.com/2012/09/29/odd-temporal-milestones/ Odd Temporal Milestones], but then the ghost reveals that Megan and Cueball will die in a shorter amount of time than the ghost's first appearance (maybe a few seconds, maybe years). For obvious reasons, this disturbs them.  An alternative explanation is that the "staaaaart of my haunting" refers to the first time the ghost haunted anyone, and it is possible Timeghost is being deliberately ambiguous in an effort to frighten them more. Alternatively again, Timeghost may be referring simply to the beginning of the comic, which is now three panels away, while the end of the comic is only one panel away; Megan and Cueball's 'death' may refer to their cessation of existence in the comic.
 
[[Megan]] and [[Cueball]] are being haunted by a ghost dedicated to making people feel old. It seems to be like the strips [[891: Movie Ages]] and [[973: MTV Generation]] and the blag post [http://blog.xkcd.com/2012/09/29/odd-temporal-milestones/ Odd Temporal Milestones], but then the ghost reveals that Megan and Cueball will die in a shorter amount of time than the ghost's first appearance (maybe a few seconds, maybe years). For obvious reasons, this disturbs them.  An alternative explanation is that the "staaaaart of my haunting" refers to the first time the ghost haunted anyone, and it is possible Timeghost is being deliberately ambiguous in an effort to frighten them more. Alternatively again, Timeghost may be referring simply to the beginning of the comic, which is now three panels away, while the end of the comic is only one panel away; Megan and Cueball's 'death' may refer to their cessation of existence in the comic.
  

Revision as of 02:36, 12 July 2014

Timeghost
'Hello, Ghostbusters?' 'ooOOoooo people born years after that movie came out are having a second chiiiild right now ooOoooOoo'
Title text: 'Hello, Ghostbusters?' 'ooOOoooo people born years after that movie came out are having a second chiiiild right now ooOoooOoo'

Explanation

Megan and Cueball are being haunted by a ghost dedicated to making people feel old. It seems to be like the strips 891: Movie Ages and 973: MTV Generation and the blag post Odd Temporal Milestones, but then the ghost reveals that Megan and Cueball will die in a shorter amount of time than the ghost's first appearance (maybe a few seconds, maybe years). For obvious reasons, this disturbs them. An alternative explanation is that the "staaaaart of my haunting" refers to the first time the ghost haunted anyone, and it is possible Timeghost is being deliberately ambiguous in an effort to frighten them more. Alternatively again, Timeghost may be referring simply to the beginning of the comic, which is now three panels away, while the end of the comic is only one panel away; Megan and Cueball's 'death' may refer to their cessation of existence in the comic.

A factoid is a questionable or spurious statement presented as a fact. In this instance, some of the factoids are easily verifiable, while others are reasonable assumptions based on the number of years passed since the individual events. Several sources advocate the use of the word "factlet" to express a brief interesting fact, while using the word "factoid" for unverifiable or untrue statements passed as fact.

While factoids tend only to have mostly only entertainment value, then the last fact from the ghost is a prediction of the future (your death) which is actually of some practical value if it can be trusted.

"Timeghost" might be a literal interpretation of Zeitgeist, which is a German term for "spirit of time" and refers to the school of thought that influences or dominates the art and culture of a time period. All the events and people mentioned in this comic have may be considered influences in present day art and culture.

This comic is somewhat similar to 647: Scary and 891: Movie Ages which present similar factoids.

Timeline

Year Event
1955-1975 Vietnam War
19 years
1994 Forrest Gump
20 years
2014 Year of this comic
1964 Keanu Reeves (Actor) born
2 years
1966 Today's new grandparents born (Average age: 48 in the US)
48 years
2014 Year of this comic
1990 Today's new parents born (Average age: 24 in the US)
3 years
1993-1994 The Simpsons Season 5
2 years (from '93 to '95)
1994-1995 The Simpsons Season 6
4 years
1999 Eminem (Rapper) got big (second album)
15 years
2014 Year of this comic
1984 Ghostbusters
3 years
1987 Today's people just having a second child born (Average age at first childbirth (24) + average gap between first two births (3))
27 years
2014 Year of this comic

Transcript

[Cueball and Megan are approached by a floating ghost]
Timeghost: ...ooOOOOOOOOooo...Tiiiime is passiiiing!
Megan: Ugh. Timeghost.
Cueball: Huh?
Megan: Here come the factoids.
[Timeghost floats around]
Timeghost: Forrest Gump came out closer to the Vietnam War than to the present daaay.
Megan: Go away!
Timeghost: The average new grand-parents are younger than Keanu Reeeeves!
Cueball: That can't be right...
[Megan clutches her head, possibly attempting to cover her ears]
Timeghost: Today's new parents were ten when Eminem got big. Daaaaaad muuuuusic. They remember Simpsons season 5 or 6 at the earliest.
Megan: Argh!
Cueball: How long has it been doing this?
Timeghost: The staaaaart of my haunting is now further away than your deaaaths!
Megan: Will you sto—WHAT!?
Timeghost: ooOOOOOOOoo
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Discussion

A lot of the facts seem to fit information that sites like http://you.regettingold.com/ would provide. But I'll leave it up to someone else to work out the dates of everything (except for the imminent and possibly eerie deaths of the strip characters) being referenced, and thus what ages Randall is assuming the various cohorts are... 141.101.99.233 04:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Forrest Gump the book - 1986

Forrest Gump the movie - 1994

Vietnam War - 1955 to 1975

Keanu Reeves - born 1965 (age 49)

The Simpsons season 5 - 1993 Dude1818 (talk) 05:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm sure you all remember Cautionary Ghost; there's got to be a lot of those around in the xkcd universe... 108.162.231.73 07:23, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't know enough about the English usage of the term to see the connection, but could this be a play on "zeitgeist", seeing how it is a literal translation of the word? 103.22.200.115 Tobl

Maybe it is just me, but I don't see the characters' deaths as imminent. In the first panel, Megan is not suprised to see that ghost and can even identify it easily. So my guess is that she previously met the ghost "some time" before, but she (obviously) doesn't like to know how much time she has left to live. 108.162.229.156 08:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

(average age of new grandparents is less than 50) [citation needed] 141.101.99.53 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

can I site xkcd:1393 as a source for that data?173.245.48.79 09:17, 11 July 2014 (UTC)BLuDgeons

Google gives 25 as the average age people get their first child. Wikipedia also says Eminem rose to mainstream popularity in 1999 (His debut was earlier but the comic says "when Eminem got big", a subjective term but the 1999 figure might be more accurate?) This also makes season 5/6 of the Simpsons at age 4/5 the earliest age most people remember well. Maybe change the dates to 1989, 1993 and 1999 for parenthood, simpsons and eminem respectively?

Sources: Parent age: http://www.babycenter.com/0_surprising-facts-about-birth-in-the-united-states_1372273.bc?page=2 (questionable maybe) Eminem got big: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem (Second paragraph, subjective) Earliest memories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_amnesia (Second paragraph, personal recollection offset is 4.5 years)141.101.104.86 09:46, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I can't find a current number, but extrapolation from this chart would put the average parent age for their first child at 25 or maybe 26. 28 is the average parent age for any child. Condor70 (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

How can we say that the time-ghost only first appeared in the beginning of this particular comic? In the first panel Megan seems to recognize the time-ghost, inferring that she's met him before - but Cueball has not. Jarod997 (talk) 12:29, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Implying. 108.162.246.215 05:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

I do not know about the proper etiquette for submitting possible edits to the explanations. Should "[...] than the time that has past since the ghost's began its" become "[...] than the time that has passed since the ghost began its"? Zyzygy (talk) 9:24, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks reasonable. When you see lexical errors like that, feel free to just change it yourself. Davidy²²[talk] 11:02, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

So, how old is Randall? 141.101.99.55 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

We need a category for "comics that make people feel old", if we don't already have one. You know, like that one with the eight-year-old talking about 9/11. If we do, just add this comic to it. 199.27.128.222 22:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


RE The Simpsons: If you had a tape or boxset you may remember more of seasons 1-4, because you watched it over and over. Also at the time, seasons 1 and 2 were entering rerun territory/premiering in other countries (see below). The strange thing is, Network Ten in Australia used to regularly broadcast episodes dating back to at least season 3 during my childhood (late '90s and early 2000s'), but now the earliest episodes they play are from seasons 4-6, minimum. 108.162.250.225 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Nobody seems to interpret the last Time Ghost statement the way I did, so I thought I would list my perspective here. Death is when one stops existing. When do Megan and Cueball stop existing in this comic? When the strip is over. It started its haunting three panels ago, and they all die in one panel. 162.158.56.83 13:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

I remember The Simpsons from The Tracey Ullman Show, before there was even a Season 1! -- The Cat Lady (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC)