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== Explanation ==
 
== Explanation ==
 
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"Stop. Hammertime" is a line in {{w|MC Hammer}}'s "{{w|U Can't Touch This}}". "Stop, collaborate and listen" is a line in {{w|Vanilla Ice}}'s "{{w|Ice Ice Baby}}". Both are hit rap songs from the 1990's. The flowchart gives you a good start if you want to sing a 90's rap hit.
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This flowchart is just not working, ''yes'' or ''no'' ends up in ''stop''. Everything below never can be reached.
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So, you never can reach hammertime, or {{w|MC Hammer}} from the 90's. And you even can't reach a line like "Stop, collaborate and listen" from {{w|Vanilla Ice}}. Both are hit rap songs from the 1990's. The flowchart gives you a good start if you do not like to sing a 90's rap hit. You never can reach this.
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The title text claims that {{w|Freestyle rapping}} adopts the random rules from the {{w|Markov chain}}.
  
 
== Transcript ==
 
== Transcript ==

Revision as of 05:39, 2 August 2013

90's Flowchart
Freestyle rapping is basically applied Markov chains.
Title text: Freestyle rapping is basically applied Markov chains.

Explanation

Ambox notice.png This explanation may be incomplete or incorrect: but I will give a try
If you can address this issue, please edit the page! Thanks.

This flowchart is just not working, yes or no ends up in stop. Everything below never can be reached.

So, you never can reach hammertime, or MC Hammer from the 90's. And you even can't reach a line like "Stop, collaborate and listen" from Vanilla Ice. Both are hit rap songs from the 1990's. The flowchart gives you a good start if you do not like to sing a 90's rap hit. You never can reach this.

The title text claims that Freestyle rapping adopts the random rules from the Markov chain.

Transcript

90's Flowchart
Start: The 90?
No: Stop
Yes: Stop
Hammertime
or
Collaborate: Listen


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Discussion

Nothing to be said about Markov Chains? In context, you'd take a large amount of "well formed lyrics", slice them up into sub-chains and then aim to assemble new larger chains of words by randomly linking fragments to neighbours that match the original fragment, to create novel 'runs' at the larger level. Noting that there need not be any 'sensible link' from one fragment to its neighbours' neighbours.

Spambots (used to?) do this a lot to make an automatic 'good looking text', randomly, to get past basic spam-blockers for email and forum messageboards. The unaware reader could even get sucked into the nonsense, for a short while.

For a rapper's output, you'd probably want some additional cross-link checking so that rhyming, aliteration, assonance and consonance emerge from the result. Although for really free-form lyrics it could be much more about the rhythm of the output, so simple syllable-counting might be the main criteria of control.

Now word that suitably for the Explanation and someone might find it interesting. ;)

(Also, in severl ways the opposite to Markov chain construction, I always liked the Darwinian Poetry site. Some of the output from that is strangely intersting, although it's been several years since I was active on the (then usable) forums and helping nudge the process onwards.) 178.98.31.27 23:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Here [1] you can see how a reasonable explanation can be destroyed. Sorry Dgbrt, but what you wrote simply makes no sense for someone who didn't already know the songs and what you deleted is exactly what was needed. In particular, the deletion of {{w|U Can't Touch This}} and {{w|Ice Ice Baby}} is beyond my understanding. Xhfz (talk) 23:34, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Calm down, I did enter the wiki-links to that songs for the first time and your latest edit is great. What's the problem?--Dgbrt (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, a closer check gave me this: Links were not original by me, but I did UNDO an edit (by 88.108.112.226) deleting them.--Dgbrt (talk) 23:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what you'd call the obscenity that was Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, but it wasn't rap. I seem to remember hip-pop, and shit-hop, and c'rap. None of the "classic hiphop" radio stations that play late eighties and early nineties rap include those two acts. Maybe they could just be called Baggy-Panted Line Dancers. — Kazvorpal (talk) 00:53, 21 October 2019 (UTC)