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{{w|Godwin's Law}} states that all conversations on the Internet, given enough time, will devolve into comparisons to Hitler or the Nazis. A common expansion on this law dictates that, when Hitler or Nazis are mentioned, the conversation immediately ends and the person who made the reference is declared the loser. The scene in the comic is generals of the {{w|Allies of World War II|Allied forces}} briefing each other and strategizing defenses and offensive positions. Of course in {{w|World War II}}, most of the conversations would come to the Nazis almost immediately, as they were kind of a big part of WWII.
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{{w|Godwin's Law}} states that all debates on the Internet, given enough time, will devolve into ad hominem attacks in the form of comparisons of one's opponents to Hitler or the Nazis. A common expansion on this law dictates that, when such a comparison is brought up, the debate immediately ends and the person who made the reference is declared the loser. This is meant to dissuade ad hominem (or in this case "{{w|Ad hitlerum}}") attacks on other people/subjects, where their views are unreasonably compared to those held by the Nazis, and should not apply to relevant discussions regarding Nazis.
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The scene in the comic shows generals of the British and Commonwealth forces discussing {{w|Benito Mussolini}}'s invasion of Egypt. Mussolini and Hitler were each commanders of {{w|Axis powers}} during {{w|World War II}}, so comparisons between them are almost certain to arise. 
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As the title text suggests, it would have been detrimental to the war effort if the expanded version of Godwin's Law had been enforced by actually ending meetings to plan war strategy whenever Hitler was appropriately mentioned.
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The joke is that in this situation, because the conversation is taking place in World War II, Hitler is relevant to the discussion, and, therefore, comparisons made to Hitler are actually valid and not an ad hominem attack. This means that in this case, Godwin's Law should not apply.
  
 
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Revision as of 14:26, 13 November 2017

Regarding Mussolini
Constantly stopping these briefings halfway through is becoming a pain.
Title text: Constantly stopping these briefings halfway through is becoming a pain.

Explanation

Godwin's Law states that all debates on the Internet, given enough time, will devolve into ad hominem attacks in the form of comparisons of one's opponents to Hitler or the Nazis. A common expansion on this law dictates that, when such a comparison is brought up, the debate immediately ends and the person who made the reference is declared the loser. This is meant to dissuade ad hominem (or in this case "Ad hitlerum") attacks on other people/subjects, where their views are unreasonably compared to those held by the Nazis, and should not apply to relevant discussions regarding Nazis.

The scene in the comic shows generals of the British and Commonwealth forces discussing Benito Mussolini's invasion of Egypt. Mussolini and Hitler were each commanders of Axis powers during World War II, so comparisons between them are almost certain to arise.

As the title text suggests, it would have been detrimental to the war effort if the expanded version of Godwin's Law had been enforced by actually ending meetings to plan war strategy whenever Hitler was appropriately mentioned.

The joke is that in this situation, because the conversation is taking place in World War II, Hitler is relevant to the discussion, and, therefore, comparisons made to Hitler are actually valid and not an ad hominem attack. This means that in this case, Godwin's Law should not apply.

Transcript

[Three people are standing around a map. One of them is pushing something with a stick.]
[A messenger arrives.]
Messenger: General, Italian forces have entered Egypt.
General: As I expected. This is a foolish move by Mussolini, but like Hitler he will no doubt force his commanders to—
Messenger: Hey. Godwin's Law.
General: Dammit.
General: You know, this may become a problem.


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Hitler? I 'ardly KNOW 'er! ...Sorry. ‎162.158.72.191 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~) Hey! Godwin's Law.

Note: in 2017, Mike Godwin said it's not wrong to compare Trumpism to Nazism. -- 162.158.159.132 10:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)