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| date      = November 19, 2005
 
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| before    = <big><big><span class="plainlinks">[https://web.archive.org/web/20060529063505/http://xkcd-drawings.livejournal.com/?skip=20#:~:text=Friday%27s%20Drawing%20%2D%20Pillar Original title</span>]: '''Friday's Drawing - Pillar'''</big></big>
 
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| titletext = A comic by my brother Doug, redrawn and rewritten by me
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| titletext = A comic by my brother Doug, redrawn and rewritten by me<br><br><span class="plainlinks">[https://web.archive.org/web/20060529063505/http://xkcd-drawings.livejournal.com/?skip=20#:~:text=Friday%27s%20Drawing%20%2D%20Pillar Original caption</span>]: Oops, I totally forgot to update yesterday afternoon. Well, I haven't slept, so I say it's still Friday. It's been a weird couple days and I was just thinking it was the weekend. Anyway, the first version of this strip was drawn by me and then written by Doug. I redrew/wrote it and now you are reading it! Cool, huh?<br>Also, all the barrel strips are now [http://www.xkcd.com/barrel.html here] for easy linkage to people you think might like them.
 
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==Explanation==
 
==Explanation==
In this comic, the two characters ponder the unanswerable philosophical question of whether all people observe the universe the same, or whether, for example, what one person sees as "red" might be what another see as "green". They muse that no one really knows how anyone else sees the world.
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This was the thirty-fourth comic originally posted to [[LiveJournal]]. The previous one was [[31: Barrel - Part 5]], and the next one was [[33: Self-reference]].
  
The misdirection and punchline of the comic comes when lefty asks if righty can get him down from the pole he's been standing on for the entire comic. Righty's reply indicates that he does not see a pole, proving that one person does observe the world differently than another; in this case, in a far more extreme and unexpected way than color differences.
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Two [[Cueball]]-like guys ponder the unanswerable philosophical question of whether all people observe the universe the same, or whether, for example, what one person sees as "red" might be what another see as "green". They muse that no one really knows how anyone else sees the world. The misdirection and punchline of the comic come when the pole-guy asks if his friend can help him down from this pole where he's been standing for the entire comic. The friend's reply indicates that he does not see a pole, proving that one person can observe the world differently than another, in this case, in a far more extreme and unexpected way than color differences.
  
As noted, this comic is based on a comic drawn by [[Randall Munroe|Randall]]'s brother [[Doug Munroe|Doug]], although Randall apparently redrew and rewrote it. Unlike most other ''[[xkcd]]'' comics, the "panels" of this comic are not divided and are drawn within a single frame.
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Another interpretation of the punchline is that the friend doesn't like pole-guy's idea of questioning all of human existence and mocks that philosophy by pretending not to see that he is standing on a pole. The concept of a philosopher on a pole is likely a reference to many "{{w|stylites}}" or "pillar-saints" of the late antiquity period, perhaps the first and most famous them being {{w|Simeon Stylites}}. Unlike most other [[xkcd]] comics, the "panels" of this comic are not divided and are drawn within a single frame.
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The title text and the original caption say the comic is based on a comic drawn by [[Randall Munroe|Randall]]'s brother Doug, although Randall apparently redrew and rewrote it. In the original caption of the LiveJournal post, he also apologizes for forgetting to post the comic on a Friday and reminds people of the link he created to group all the comics in the [[:Category:The Boy and his Barrel|The Boy and his Barrel series]], because the [[31: Barrel - Part 5|previous comic]] was the last episode in the series. The link is now defunct, but there's an [http://liveweb.archive.org/web/20070207052159/http://www.xkcd.com/barrel.html archived version].
  
 
==Transcript==
 
==Transcript==
::This one is mostly by my little brother, [[Doug Munroe|Doug]].
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:[At the top of the panel is a black frame with the following text:]
:[Person on a tall pillar is talking to person on the ground]
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:This one is mostly by my little brother, Doug.
:Person on pillar: The sky is so blue, and all the leaves are green.
 
:Person on ground: Haven't you ever wondered if we really see the same colors as everyone else? It's all perception.
 
  
:Person on pillar: Well, you might as well call into question all of human experience. Who really knows what world someone else sees?
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:[A Cueball-like guy stands on the top of a tall pole and talks to his Cueball-like friend on the ground. The drawing is repeated three time in the same panel, once for each comment by the two guys.]
:Person on ground: Yeah, I guess.
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:Pole-guy: The sky is so blue, and all the leaves are green.
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:Friend: Haven't you ever wondered if we really see the same colors as everyone else? It's all perception.
  
:Person on pillar: Anyway, can you help me down from this pole?
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:Pole-guy: Well, you might as well call into question all of human experience. Who really knows what world someone else sees?
:Person on ground: What pole?
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:Friend: Yeah, I guess.
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:Pole-guy: Anyway, can you help me down from this pole?
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:Friend: What pole?
  
 
==Trivia==
 
==Trivia==
*This is the thirty-fourth comic originally posted to livejournal. The previous was [[31: Barrel - Part 5]]. The next was [[33: Self-reference]]
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This was the first comic to be [[:Category:Saturday comics|released on a Saturday]], at 7:55 PM.
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Latest revision as of 07:53, 31 August 2023

Pillar
Original title: Friday's Drawing - Pillar
A comic by my brother Doug, redrawn and rewritten by meOriginal caption: Oops, I totally forgot to update yesterday afternoon. Well, I haven't slept, so I say it's still Friday. It's been a weird couple days and I was just thinking it was the weekend. Anyway, the first version of this strip was drawn by me and then written by Doug. I redrew/wrote it and now you are reading it! Cool, huh?Also, all the barrel strips are now here for easy linkage to people you think might like them.
Title text: A comic by my brother Doug, redrawn and rewritten by me

Original caption: Oops, I totally forgot to update yesterday afternoon. Well, I haven't slept, so I say it's still Friday. It's been a weird couple days and I was just thinking it was the weekend. Anyway, the first version of this strip was drawn by me and then written by Doug. I redrew/wrote it and now you are reading it! Cool, huh?
Also, all the barrel strips are now here for easy linkage to people you think might like them.

Explanation[edit]

This was the thirty-fourth comic originally posted to LiveJournal. The previous one was 31: Barrel - Part 5, and the next one was 33: Self-reference.

Two Cueball-like guys ponder the unanswerable philosophical question of whether all people observe the universe the same, or whether, for example, what one person sees as "red" might be what another see as "green". They muse that no one really knows how anyone else sees the world. The misdirection and punchline of the comic come when the pole-guy asks if his friend can help him down from this pole where he's been standing for the entire comic. The friend's reply indicates that he does not see a pole, proving that one person can observe the world differently than another, in this case, in a far more extreme and unexpected way than color differences.

Another interpretation of the punchline is that the friend doesn't like pole-guy's idea of questioning all of human existence and mocks that philosophy by pretending not to see that he is standing on a pole. The concept of a philosopher on a pole is likely a reference to many "stylites" or "pillar-saints" of the late antiquity period, perhaps the first and most famous them being Simeon Stylites. Unlike most other xkcd comics, the "panels" of this comic are not divided and are drawn within a single frame.

The title text and the original caption say the comic is based on a comic drawn by Randall's brother Doug, although Randall apparently redrew and rewrote it. In the original caption of the LiveJournal post, he also apologizes for forgetting to post the comic on a Friday and reminds people of the link he created to group all the comics in the The Boy and his Barrel series, because the previous comic was the last episode in the series. The link is now defunct, but there's an archived version.

Transcript[edit]

[At the top of the panel is a black frame with the following text:]
This one is mostly by my little brother, Doug.
[A Cueball-like guy stands on the top of a tall pole and talks to his Cueball-like friend on the ground. The drawing is repeated three time in the same panel, once for each comment by the two guys.]
Pole-guy: The sky is so blue, and all the leaves are green.
Friend: Haven't you ever wondered if we really see the same colors as everyone else? It's all perception.
Pole-guy: Well, you might as well call into question all of human experience. Who really knows what world someone else sees?
Friend: Yeah, I guess.
Pole-guy: Anyway, can you help me down from this pole?
Friend: What pole?

Trivia[edit]

This was the first comic to be released on a Saturday, at 7:55 PM.


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Discussion

I have oft wondered about the color thing. 71.178.11.180 21:49, 23 October 2012 (UTC) Bigger problem- how do you know there are other people?

The incessantly thumping bass from your neighbour's "music" is a bit of a clue. :-) BinaryDigit (talk) 09:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Is that Comic Sans (the font) in the top left? Caagr98 (talk) 15:06, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Augh, it is Comic Sans! 173.245.52.29 21:00, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, it could be that Righty doesn't see a pole, but a pillar, as suggested by the title of the comic. That's why he asks, "What pole?", implying, "I only see a pillar". 173.245.62.75 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

The song "Shpadoinkle" from Trey Parker and Matt Stone's "Cannibal! The Musical" begins with the line, "The sky is blue, and all the leaves are green." Trueflint (talk) 17:15, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Anecdotally, I don't even perceive colors the same between my eyes. When I stare at a white wall, my left eye perceives it as tinted red, and my right eye perceives it as tinted green. 172.68.141.34 03:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

That's really interesting. Was it ever investigated why that is the case? And could that maybe be scientifically relevant? Fabian42 (talk) 09:12, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Does this mean you don't need special glasses to watch a 3D film ?. Just kidding, I hope you get it fixed if you want to or are happy with it as it is. EditorGonk (talk) 12:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

My wife, who's an artist, perceives the sky as purple. We originally thought she was partially colorblind. But after finding out that she sees photographs of the sky inside as the same light blue / cyan as other people, and flowers turn different colors outside, and asking her if a blacklight was the same color as the sky (yes it is), I determined that she sees Ultraviolet Light that the rest of us cannot. Interestingly, this development happened at the same time as she developed a persistent "smear" across her vision, and it's correlated with that time she fell through the ice while skateboarding. Dartania (talk) 10:34, 10 June 2021 (EST)