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| date      = November 14, 2007
 
| date      = November 14, 2007
 
| title    = 1337: Part 3
 
| title    = 1337: Part 3
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| image    = 1337 part 3.png
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| titletext = I once asked an NSA guy whether they'd broken RSA. And I know I can trust him, because I asked if he was lying to me and he said no.
| titletext = I once asked an NSA guy whether they'd broken RSA. And I know I can trust him, because I asked if he was lying to me and he said no.
 
 
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==Explanation==
 
==Explanation==
{{w|Adrian Lamo}} is a hacker known for being a threat analyst and has penetrated many corporate networks. As far as we know, he has not penetrated any government networks, so helping Elaine physically break into the {{w|NSA}} would probably put him out.
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{{w|Adrian Lamo}} is a hacker known for being a threat analyst and has penetrated many corporate networks. As far as we know, he has not penetrated any government networks, so helping Elaine physically break into the {{w|NSA}} would probably inspire second thoughts.
  
{{w|RSA (algorithm)|RSA}} is an encryption algorithm that allows decryption using {{w|Public-key cryptography|public keys}}
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{{w|RSA (algorithm)|RSA}} is an encryption algorithm that allows decryption using {{w|Public-key cryptography|public keys}}. No efficient method to {{w|RSA problem|break RSA}} is known. But if the NSA knew any such method, it would be unlikely for them to admit that.
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However, the NSA have paid RSA to put a [http://theverge.com/2013/12/20/5231006/nsa-paid-10-million-for-a-back-door-into-rsa-encryption-according-to backdoor] into one of their encryption schemes.
  
 
{{w|Lawrence Lessig}} is a political activist, and a founding board member of {{w|Creative Commons}}.
 
{{w|Lawrence Lessig}} is a political activist, and a founding board member of {{w|Creative Commons}}.
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{{w|Steve Jobs}} was the two-time {{w|CEO}} of {{w|Apple Inc.}} In partnership with {{w|Steve Wozniak}} he founded Apple. He oversaw Apple's return from near bankruptcy, the introduction of the original Macintosh, the iPod, the iPhone, and the iPad. But in the 90s, most of this had not happened yet.
 
{{w|Steve Jobs}} was the two-time {{w|CEO}} of {{w|Apple Inc.}} In partnership with {{w|Steve Wozniak}} he founded Apple. He oversaw Apple's return from near bankruptcy, the introduction of the original Macintosh, the iPod, the iPhone, and the iPad. But in the 90s, most of this had not happened yet.
  
The final panel is a pun on the Riot grrrls - from Wikipedia {{w|Riot grrrl}} is an underground feminist punk rock movement. This metamophises in the hands of Randal into Riot Prrl - who presumably prefer to code in {{w|Perl}}. The [http://c3northampton.org/?p=359 real Riot Prrl] are from {{w|Northampton}} and are into guerilla {{w|knitting}}.
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The final panel is a pun on the Riot grrrls - from Wikipedia {{w|Riot grrrl}} is an underground feminist punk rock movement. This metamorphises in the hands of Randall into Riot Prrl - who presumably prefer to code in {{w|Perl}}. The real Riot Prrl are from {{w|Northampton}} and are into guerilla {{w|knitting}}.
  
The title text ("I asked if he was lying to me and he said no") refers to {{w|Liar_paradox|liar paradox}}.
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The title text may refer to the {{w|urban legend}} that leads petty criminals to ask each other [http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.asp "Are you a cop?"] the bottom line being that liars can lie about whether they're lying.
  
 
All comics in "[[:Category:1337|1337]]" series:
 
All comics in "[[:Category:1337|1337]]" series:
* [[341: 1337: Part 1]]
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*[[341: 1337: Part 1]]
* [[342: 1337: Part 2]]
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*[[342: 1337: Part 2]]
* [[343: 1337: Part 3]]
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*343: 1337: Part 3 (this one)
* [[344: 1337: Part 4]]
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*[[344: 1337: Part 4]]
* [[345: 1337: Part 5]]
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*[[345: 1337: Part 5]]
  
This series was released on 5 consecutive days(Monday-Friday) and not over the usual Monday/Wednesday/Friday schedule.
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This series was released on 5 consecutive days (Monday-Friday) and not over the usual Monday/Wednesday/Friday schedule.
  
 
==Transcript==
 
==Transcript==
[Outside, Adrian Lamo is helping Elaine Roberts over a barbed wire fence.]
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:[Outside, Adrian Lamo is helping Elaine Roberts over a barbed wire fence.]
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:It was the late 90's. Elaine crisscrossed the country with Adrian Lamo, the 'Homeless Hacker', learning to gain entry into systems both virtual and physical.
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:Adrian Lamo: So you just throw a rug over the fence and... say, what ''is'' this place anyway?
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:Roberts: Nowhere special.
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:Lamo: ...Elaine, is this NSA Headquarters?
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:Roberts: ...Look, I just want to see if they've broken RSA.
  
Narrator: It was the late 90's. Elaine crisscrossed the country with Adrian Lamo, the 'Homeless Hacker', learning to gain entry into systems both virtual and physical.
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:[Inside, Lawrence Lessig is sitting at a table, Roberts is standing across the table swinging a knife.]
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:She learned, from Lawrence Lessig, about the monstrosity that is U.S. Copyright Law.
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:Roberts: So, how do we fix the system? Stab bad guys?
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:Lessig: I'm starting something called "Creative Commons"
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:''Shink''
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:Elaine Roberts: I think we should stab bad guys...
  
Adrian Lamo: So you just throw a rug over the fence and ... say, what is this place anyway?
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:[Steve Jobs is lying up in his bed, Roberts is balancing while crouched on the foot of Jobs' bed.]
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:She met with Steve Jobs to discuss the future of Apple.
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:Roberts: Compression and bandwidth are changing everything.
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:Jobs: Who are you? It's 3:00AM!
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:Roberts: Apple should make a portable music player.
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:Jobs: I'm calling the police.
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:Roberts: Hey, idea — integrate it with a cell phone!
  
Roberts: Nowhere special.
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:[Scene has two of Elaine's activities. In one she is drumming, in the other she has an electric guitar on her shoulders, one hand on the frets. The other hand is holding a laptop by the touchpad.]
 
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:She even, for a time, took up drumming, and helped start a movement among teen girls, a culture of self-taught female programmers and musicians, coding by day and rocking out by night—
Lamo: ...Elaine, is this NSA Headquarters?
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:Roberts: Riot Prrl.
 
 
Roberts: ...Look, I just want to see if they've broken RSA.
 
 
 
 
 
[Inside, Lawrence Lessig is sitting at a table, Roberts is standing across the table swinging a knife]
 
 
 
Narrator: She learned, from Lawrence Lessig, about the monstrosity that is U.S. Copyright Law.
 
 
 
Roberts: So, how do we fix the system? Stab bad guys?
 
 
 
Lessig: I'm starting something called "Creative Commons"
 
 
 
<<Shink>>
 
 
 
Elaine Roberts: I think we should stab bad guys...
 
 
 
 
 
[Steve Jobs is lying up in his bed, Roberts is balancing while crouched on the foot of Jobs' bed]
 
 
 
Narrator: She met with Steve Jobs to discuss the future of Apple.
 
 
 
Roberts: Compression and bandwidth are changing everything.
 
 
 
Jobs: Who are you? It's 3:00AM!
 
 
 
Roberts: Apple should make a portable music player.
 
 
 
Jobs: I'm calling the police.
 
 
 
Roberts: Hey, idea &mdash; integrate it with a cell phone!
 
 
 
 
 
[Scene has two of Elaine's activities. In one she is drumming, in the other she has an electric guitar on her shoulders, one hand on the frets. The other hand is holding a laptop by the touchpad.]
 
 
 
Narrator: She even, for a time, took up drumming, and helped start a movement among teen girls, a culture of self-taught female programmers and musicians, coding by day and rocking out by night&mdash;
 
 
 
Roberts: Riot Prrl.
 
  
 
{{comic discussion}}
 
{{comic discussion}}
 
[[Category:Comics featuring Elaine Roberts]]
 
[[Category:Comics featuring Elaine Roberts]]
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[[Category:Comics featuring Steve Jobs]]
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[[Category:Comics featuring real people]]
 
[[Category:1337|03]]
 
[[Category:1337|03]]
[[Category:Comics featuring Steve Jobs]]
 
 
[[Category:CC-BY-SA comics]]
 
[[Category:CC-BY-SA comics]]
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[[Category:Cryptography]]

Revision as of 09:13, 6 March 2015

1337: Part 3
I once asked an NSA guy whether they'd broken RSA. And I know I can trust him, because I asked if he was lying to me and he said no.
Title text: I once asked an NSA guy whether they'd broken RSA. And I know I can trust him, because I asked if he was lying to me and he said no.

Explanation

Adrian Lamo is a hacker known for being a threat analyst and has penetrated many corporate networks. As far as we know, he has not penetrated any government networks, so helping Elaine physically break into the NSA would probably inspire second thoughts.

RSA is an encryption algorithm that allows decryption using public keys. No efficient method to break RSA is known. But if the NSA knew any such method, it would be unlikely for them to admit that. However, the NSA have paid RSA to put a backdoor into one of their encryption schemes.

Lawrence Lessig is a political activist, and a founding board member of Creative Commons.

Steve Jobs was the two-time CEO of Apple Inc. In partnership with Steve Wozniak he founded Apple. He oversaw Apple's return from near bankruptcy, the introduction of the original Macintosh, the iPod, the iPhone, and the iPad. But in the 90s, most of this had not happened yet.

The final panel is a pun on the Riot grrrls - from Wikipedia Riot grrrl is an underground feminist punk rock movement. This metamorphises in the hands of Randall into Riot Prrl - who presumably prefer to code in Perl. The real Riot Prrl are from Northampton and are into guerilla knitting.

The title text may refer to the urban legend that leads petty criminals to ask each other "Are you a cop?" the bottom line being that liars can lie about whether they're lying.

All comics in "1337" series:

This series was released on 5 consecutive days (Monday-Friday) and not over the usual Monday/Wednesday/Friday schedule.

Transcript

[Outside, Adrian Lamo is helping Elaine Roberts over a barbed wire fence.]
It was the late 90's. Elaine crisscrossed the country with Adrian Lamo, the 'Homeless Hacker', learning to gain entry into systems both virtual and physical.
Adrian Lamo: So you just throw a rug over the fence and... say, what is this place anyway?
Roberts: Nowhere special.
Lamo: ...Elaine, is this NSA Headquarters?
Roberts: ...Look, I just want to see if they've broken RSA.
[Inside, Lawrence Lessig is sitting at a table, Roberts is standing across the table swinging a knife.]
She learned, from Lawrence Lessig, about the monstrosity that is U.S. Copyright Law.
Roberts: So, how do we fix the system? Stab bad guys?
Lessig: I'm starting something called "Creative Commons"
Shink
Elaine Roberts: I think we should stab bad guys...
[Steve Jobs is lying up in his bed, Roberts is balancing while crouched on the foot of Jobs' bed.]
She met with Steve Jobs to discuss the future of Apple.
Roberts: Compression and bandwidth are changing everything.
Jobs: Who are you? It's 3:00AM!
Roberts: Apple should make a portable music player.
Jobs: I'm calling the police.
Roberts: Hey, idea — integrate it with a cell phone!
[Scene has two of Elaine's activities. In one she is drumming, in the other she has an electric guitar on her shoulders, one hand on the frets. The other hand is holding a laptop by the touchpad.]
She even, for a time, took up drumming, and helped start a movement among teen girls, a culture of self-taught female programmers and musicians, coding by day and rocking out by night—
Roberts: Riot Prrl.


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Discussion

I can't narrow it down, but the "I think we should stab bad guys", coming from a possibly not psychologically 'normal' young girl, comes from something. Firefly? Not sure, and I've not seen all of the Sarah Connor Chronicles yet, either, to my shame. Too early a comic to be Parker from Leverage (right attitude, though, c.f. when she got horribly cold-read by the fake psychic and got told what he'd done to her). But it's that sort of character. 178.98.31.27 08:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

-Maybe the title text refers the Liar paradox, since under the paradox we can assume that all NSA people lie which would lead to the NSA man's saying no to lying = that he actually lied 108.162.223.47 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

I noticed Randall released this comic under a license for Wikipedia. Where is it on Wikipedia? Benjaminikuta (talk) 18:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Perching on the bedpost

This posture, and the whole composition of the scene, might refers to some classical representation of the devil inspiring the Devil's Trill to Giuseppe Tartini, a sonata considered as its masterpiece. 162.158.91.160 09:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

How do we know Steve didn’t just have really long circular bars at the ends of his bed?

in panel 3 elaine perfectly described the ipod touch

At the top of the page, there is (at the time of writing) an add about "What If? 2" and when it comes out. this is always there... exept when viewing this comic, for some reason????? -QPc_G17

I don't think that using the rug to cross the barbed wire fence should be considered a specific reference, as this is a common method of circumventing it and was used in WWI and II. It would be like saying that using boltcutters to get through a chainlink fence is a reference to Monsters Inc., it could be, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence for it. 172.71.214.170 04:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)