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First and foremost, Wenceslas was not a king, but merely a {{w|duke}}. The "kingship" was given to him ceremonially after his death. Secondly, the Wenceslas that the carol is about did not massacre any people and [[Black Hat]] is merely playing a prank on unsuspecting innocent carolers.
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While not a king, {{w|Wenceslaus I, Duke of Bohemia}} is considered a martyr and a saint. Far from being responsible for any massacre, he protected his subjects from external dominance, and is still a national hero to the Czech people. [[Black Hat]] is supplying {{w|disinformation}} to unsuspecting carolers in order to silence them.
  
The title text references "the {{w|Feast of Stephen}}" which is also known as the "Feast of St. Stephen" or "St. Stephen's Day", which is a holiday celebrated on the 26th or 27th of December, depending on the Western or Eastern church respectively. It is not actually a feast that involved eating a person named Stephen, instead a celebration of the Saint named Stephen.
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The title text references "the {{w|St. Stephen's Day|Feast of Stephen}}" which is also known as the "Feast of St. Stephen" or "St. Stephen's Day", which is a holiday celebrated on 26 or 27 December, depending on the Western or Eastern church respectively. It is not actually a feast that involved eating a person named Stephen, instead a celebration of the Saint named Stephen.
  
 
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:Black Hat: King Wenceslas massacred my people.
 
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:[The carolers stand in silence.]
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Caroling
For a thousand generations we vowed never to forget how his soldiers feasted on our brother Stephen.
Title text: For a thousand generations we vowed never to forget how his soldiers feasted on our brother Stephen.

Explanation

Here are the lyrics for the first verse of the Christmas Carol, "Good King Wenceslas"

Good King Wenceslas looked out, on the Feast of Stephen,
When the snow lay round about, deep and crisp and even;
Brightly shone the moon that night, tho' the frost was cruel,
When a poor man came in sight, gath'ring winter fuel.

While not a king, Wenceslaus I, Duke of Bohemia is considered a martyr and a saint. Far from being responsible for any massacre, he protected his subjects from external dominance, and is still a national hero to the Czech people. Black Hat is supplying disinformation to unsuspecting carolers in order to silence them.

The title text references "the Feast of Stephen" which is also known as the "Feast of St. Stephen" or "St. Stephen's Day", which is a holiday celebrated on 26 or 27 December, depending on the Western or Eastern church respectively. It is not actually a feast that involved eating a person named Stephen, instead a celebration of the Saint named Stephen.

Transcript

[Three people stand together singing Christmas carols.]
Carolers (in unison): Good king Wenceslas looked out on the—
[Black Hat leans out of an above ground window.]
Black Hat: King Wenceslas massacred my people.
[The carolers stand in silence, one looks at the others.]


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Discussion

9 months until I can start pulling this out on carolers again. Gaaaah, the waaait. Davidy²²[talk] 08:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I removed the section about Wenceslas being posthomously named king; the reference that is used to support this claim in the Wikipedia article does not, in fact, do so. The claim is not repeated anywhere else that I can see. 108.162.219.223 21:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the trivia section arguing that Wenceslas might not have been such a great guy after all. There is no proof offered, and the comment is really only speculation, and not actual trivia. If whoever added this section can offer some concrete evidence, then maybe it would be merited. Orazor (talk) 07:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

maybe randall knows Overlord of oddities (talk) 00:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Caroling comics title - three references in it?

1) Christmas carols 2) deliberate miss-spelilng of the verb carolling (singing carols) 3) Reference to the Carolingian dynasty of East Frankish/HRE/... rulers (of Charlemagne fame), Duchy of Bohemia was their tributary for a while under Wenceslaus's father (and partly under him as well I think?). 141.101.98.52 20:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Both spellings are acceptable; "caroling" is correct in American English. L-Space Traveler (talk) 02:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Could this be a reference to Wenceslaus IV?

Just occurred to me that Black Hat may be taking a jab at the "idle" rule of King Wenceslaus the 4th - with his death followed by the Hussite Wars, which his questionable rule contributed to.

While it's a far stretch to say he personally massacred Black Hat's "people" - I'd say its within the realms of Black Hat's twisted Machiavellian ways to imply he had an indirect hand in it and bounce that off carollers for fun (while keeping the nuances to himself).

Sketchy, of course... but what part of Black Hat isn't?

Any opinions?