https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:277: Long Light - Revision history2024-03-28T09:48:53ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&diff=216482&oldid=prevThe Cat Lady at 14:47, 13 August 20212021-08-13T14:47:14Z<p></p>
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</table>The Cat Ladyhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&diff=182087&oldid=prevKazvorpal at 05:48, 1 November 20192019-11-01T05:48:37Z<p></p>
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</table>Kazvorpalhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&diff=130630&oldid=prev108.162.245.44 at 20:15, 10 November 20162016-11-10T20:15:06Z<p></p>
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</table>108.162.245.44https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&diff=129082&oldid=prev162.158.69.142: comment2016-10-24T19:04:28Z<p>comment</p>
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</table>162.158.69.142https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&diff=109024&oldid=prev141.101.104.165 at 09:05, 11 January 20162016-01-11T09:05:15Z<p></p>
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</table>141.101.104.165https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:277:_Long_Light&diff=94255&oldid=prev108.162.219.102: Explaining traffic engineering difficulties2015-05-26T22:27:07Z<p>Explaining traffic engineering difficulties</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not that 70.72.16.171 will necessarily see this, but there are traffic engineers, who design intersections (not only the types, number, and arrangement of individual signal assemblies and sensors in a given intersection, but also any timing or sensor-based relationship with other intersections and several other things not signal-related). I think the engineer in the comic is one of these traffic engineers (maybe that's what ...16.171 is calling a city planner?). It's not the one that designed the actual assembly of bulbs, lenses, circuits and housing that makes up a given "signal" - which would also no doubt be an engineer (somewhere in the civil/electrical area I might venture to guess)[[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 18:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not that 70.72.16.171 will necessarily see this, but there are traffic engineers, who design intersections (not only the types, number, and arrangement of individual signal assemblies and sensors in a given intersection, but also any timing or sensor-based relationship with other intersections and several other things not signal-related). I think the engineer in the comic is one of these traffic engineers (maybe that's what ...16.171 is calling a city planner?). It's not the one that designed the actual assembly of bulbs, lenses, circuits and housing that makes up a given "signal" - which would also no doubt be an engineer (somewhere in the civil/electrical area I might venture to guess)[[User:Brettpeirce|Brettpeirce]] ([[User talk:Brettpeirce|talk]]) 18:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC</div></td></tr>
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