https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&feed=atom&action=historyUser talk:Omega - Revision history2024-03-28T22:25:41ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.30.0https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&diff=31451&oldid=prevDavidy22 at 10:45, 28 March 20132013-03-28T10:45:29Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I appreciate that this was a hloribre event to wake up to and that the Rimuhosting staff scrambled to correct the problems. I recognize also that Rimuhosting has been at the mercy of third parties with whom it contracts to provide service to its clients/customers. There are only so many variables one can reasonably manage and failures will happen from time to time e28094 just the nature of the beast.However, one thing I don't understand is how e28094 short of a direct lightning strike e28094 a power event could corrupt some servers. It's as if this Dallas data center has no provision for UPS battery backup so that servers could be brought down (relatively) cleanly.I'm getting the impression that many servers were simply deprived of power on the spot e28094 no clean shutdown process. As a result, the file systems (and some VPS's) may have been corrupted.I don't expect uninterrupted power, but I do think it's reasonable that secondary power be available at least long enough for on-site technicians to manually shut down the servers to ensure a better start-up process once power has been restored.If I'm mistaken and if battery backup was in place, then what led to the inability of a number of servers to come back up? (This question excludes config-related issues such as SSL certs and the like.) If I'm not mistaken, what measures are being taken to correct this so that future power events can be handled more gracefully by this data center?Thanks for your work and for providing direct and straightforward status reports to your customers. {{unsigned|96.53.82.230|02:21, 22 February 2013}}</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I appreciate that this was a hloribre event to wake up to and that the Rimuhosting staff scrambled to correct the problems. I recognize also that Rimuhosting has been at the mercy of third parties with whom it contracts to provide service to its clients/customers. There are only so many variables one can reasonably manage and failures will happen from time to time e28094 just the nature of the beast.However, one thing I don't understand is how e28094 short of a direct lightning strike e28094 a power event could corrupt some servers. It's as if this Dallas data center has no provision for UPS battery backup so that servers could be brought down (relatively) cleanly.I'm getting the impression that many servers were simply deprived of power on the spot e28094 no clean shutdown process. As a result, the file systems (and some VPS's) may have been corrupted.I don't expect uninterrupted power, but I do think it's reasonable that secondary power be available at least long enough for on-site technicians to manually shut down the servers to ensure a better start-up process once power has been restored.If I'm mistaken and if battery backup was in place, then what led to the inability of a number of servers to come back up? (This question excludes config-related issues such as SSL certs and the like.) If I'm not mistaken, what measures are being taken to correct this so that future power events can be handled more gracefully by this data center?Thanks for your work and for providing direct and straightforward status reports to your customers. {{unsigned|96.53.82.230|02:21, 22 February 2013}}</div></td></tr>
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</table>Davidy22https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&diff=31443&oldid=prevOmega at 09:59, 28 March 20132013-03-28T09:59:58Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I appreciate that this was a hloribre event to wake up to and that the Rimuhosting staff scrambled to correct the problems. I recognize also that Rimuhosting has been at the mercy of third parties with whom it contracts to provide service to its clients/customers. There are only so many variables one can reasonably manage and failures will happen from time to time e28094 just the nature of the beast.However, one thing I don't understand is how e28094 short of a direct lightning strike e28094 a power event could corrupt some servers. It's as if this Dallas data center has no provision for UPS battery backup so that servers could be brought down (relatively) cleanly.I'm getting the impression that many servers were simply deprived of power on the spot e28094 no clean shutdown process. As a result, the file systems (and some VPS's) may have been corrupted.I don't expect uninterrupted power, but I do think it's reasonable that secondary power be available at least long enough for on-site technicians to manually shut down the servers to ensure a better start-up process once power has been restored.If I'm mistaken and if battery backup was in place, then what led to the inability of a number of servers to come back up? (This question excludes config-related issues such as SSL certs and the like.) If I'm not mistaken, what measures are being taken to correct this so that future power events can be handled more gracefully by this data center?Thanks for your work and for providing direct and straightforward status reports to your customers. {{unsigned|96.53.82.230|02:21, 22 February 2013}}</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Omegahttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&diff=28640&oldid=prevDavidy22: Reverted edits by 96.53.82.230 (talk) to last revision by TheOriginalSoni2013-02-22T02:22:03Z<p>Reverted edits by <a href="/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/96.53.82.230" title="Special:Contributions/96.53.82.230">96.53.82.230</a> (<a href="/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:96.53.82.230&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:96.53.82.230 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) to last revision by <a href="/wiki/index.php/User:TheOriginalSoni" title="User:TheOriginalSoni">TheOriginalSoni</a></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">appreciate that this was a hloribre event </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wake up </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and that </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Rimuhosting staff scrambled </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">correct the problems</del>. I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">recognize also that Rimuhosting has been at the mercy of third parties </del>with <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">whom it contracts </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">provide service to its clients</del>/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">customers</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">There are only so many variables one can reasonably manage and failures will happen from time </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">time e28094 just </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">nature </del>of the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">beast</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">However, one thing I </del>don't <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">understand is how e28094 short of </del>a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">direct lightning strike e28094 a power event could corrupt some servers. It</del>'s <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">as if this Dallas data center has no provision for UPS battery backup so that servers could be brought down </del>(<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">relatively</del>) <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">cleanly.</del>I<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'m getting </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">impression that many servers were simply deprived of power on </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">spot e28094 no clean shutdown process</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">As </del>a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">result</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the file systems (</del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">some VPS</del>'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">s) may </del>have <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">been corrupted.</del>I don't <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">expect uninterrupted power</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">but I do think </del>it<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'s reasonable that secondary power </del>be <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">available </del>at <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">least long enough for </del>on<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-site technicians to manually shut down </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">servers </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ensure a better start-up process once power has been restored</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">If </del>I'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">m mistaken </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">if battery backup was in place</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">then what led to the inability of </del>a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">number of servers to come back up</del>? (<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">This question excludes config-related issues such as SSL certs and </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">like</del>.) <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">If </del>I'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">m not mistaken</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">what measures are being taken </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">correct this so </del>that <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">future power events can be handled more gracefully by </del>this <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">data center</del>?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Thanks for your work </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">for providing direct and straightforward status reports </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">your customers.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">==Welcome==</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Sorry, </ins>I<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'m used to having at least some bot welcome me, and my beautiful divs look awkward when they're empty. Had </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">have at least some filler here. So, self-welcome! Welcome </ins>to the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">explain xkcd wiki, Omega. I hope you'll enjoy your stay (okay, talking </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">myself is a bit confusing</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Especially if when </ins>I <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">reply back). Please remember it's xkcd, not XKCD or Xkcd or X.K.C.D. or whatever peeps are coming up </ins>with <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">now. Yes, nitpick away. Go edit. Don't forget </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">close your tags, sign your posts (with <nowiki>~~~~<</ins>/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">nowiki>) and don't get confused about all the missing extensions this wiki lacks (where's my "upload multiple images"?!)</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Was that a sufficient welcome? Yes? (Do I reply </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">myself inline? Nawww...)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Sorry, </del>I<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'m used </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">having at least some bot welcome me, </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">my beautiful divs look awkward when they're empty</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Had </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">have at least some filler here</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">So, self-welcome! Welcome </del>to the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">explain xkcd wiki</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Omega. </del>I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">hope you</del>'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ll enjoy your stay (okay, talking to myself </del>is a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">bit confusing. Especially if when I reply back)</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Please remember it</del>'s <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">xkcd, not XKCD or Xkcd or X.K.C.D. or whatever peeps are coming up with now. Yes, nitpick away. Go edit. Don't forget to close your tags, sign your posts (with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) and don't get confused about all the missing extensions </del>this <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wiki lacks </del>(<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">where's my "upload multiple images"?!</del>). <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Was that a sufficient welcome? Yes? (Do </del>I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">reply to myself inline? Nawww...)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:: I know what you mean about the extensions, I was just kidding :) As for the signature... it does stand out quite a bit, yes, and not in a good way, I'm afraid</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">We don't have a signature policy and </del>I<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'m glad we </del>don't, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">as </del>it <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">would only </del>be <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">instruction creep </del>at <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">this point. The more rules we can avoid by relying </del>on <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">people's common sense, </del>the better <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and friendlier the community will be, as we won't be forcing people to do things, but agreeing on them instead</del>. I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">would prefer if you</del>'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">d make it less flashy, not necessarily totally bland </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">boring like mine :) What do you say</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">let's find </del>a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">middle ground</del>? -<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 21:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">::: Yeah, it's better. Not less flashy (perhaps more, actually), but certainly less messy (</del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">shadows made the previous sig</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">almost unreadable</del>)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. My main objection to elaborated signatures is how they stand out from other signatures, making posts signed with them draw the eye more, which </del>I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">think is distracting in discussions. But let</del>'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">s leave it at that. Seems like a reasonable middle ground</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and nobody is complaining yet ;) --[[User:Waldir|Waldir]] ([[User talk:Waldir|talk]]) 23:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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</table>96.53.82.230https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&diff=11512&oldid=prevTheOriginalSoni: /* Welcome */2012-09-08T11:11:38Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Welcome</span></span></p>
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</table>Philosopherhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&diff=5711&oldid=prevWaldir: /* Welcome */2012-08-08T23:37:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Welcome</span></span></p>
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</table>Waldirhttps://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Omega&diff=5660&oldid=prevWaldir: /* Welcome */2012-08-08T21:42:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Welcome</span></span></p>
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Sorry, I'm used to having at least some bot welcome me, and my beautiful divs look awkward when they're empty. Had to have at least some filler here. So, self-welcome! Welcome to the explain xkcd wiki, Omega. I hope you'll enjoy your stay (okay, talking to myself is a bit confusing. Especially if when I reply back). Please remember it's xkcd, not XKCD or Xkcd or X.K.C.D. or whatever peeps are coming up with now. Yes, nitpick away. Go edit. Don't forget to close your tags, sign your posts (with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) and don't get confused about all the missing extensions this wiki lacks (where's my "upload multiple images"?!). Was that a sufficient welcome? Yes? (Do I reply to myself inline? Nawww...)<br />
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Again, welcome! Oh, oh, I wanna test my signature! {{User:Omega/sig}} 07:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)</div>Omega