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&lt;div&gt;Anyone know if there really is a thread for this?  I Googled the title as shown in quotes and it didn't give me any results.  Without quotes gave me the xkcd forums as well as some Creationist stuff.  [[Special:Contributions/76.122.5.96|76.122.5.96]] 07:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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-- Haha! I did exactly the same, but in the hour and a half since you searched, some enterprising soul has created what appears to be a tribute thread at [http://freeenergyforum.com/discussion/187/your-all-crackpots-who-dont-understand-thermodynamics/]. [[User:PabloVergos|PabloVergos]] ([[User talk:PabloVergos|talk]]) 08:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, 0.999... ≠ 1 and the government covered it up. [[Special:Contributions/108.233.253.211|108.233.253.211]] 00:35, 29 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The explanation for the third post should make note of the situation where you hang a flywheel (e.g. a bicycle wheel) by each end of its axis using cords, spin the wheel then cut one cord, and the bicycle wheel will keep spinning in the same position! There was a YouTube video for this, but I cannot find it, there must be more people who know what I'm talking about. It has something to do with centripetal  (No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die). :) [[Special:Contributions/84.224.77.100|84.224.77.100]] 05:32, 29 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it refers to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Perpetual_Motion_by_Norman_Rockwell.jpg this], not gyroscopes. [[User:Bugefun|Bugefun]] ([[User talk:Bugefun|talk]]) 06:27, 29 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did some digging and found http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=29697&amp;amp;page=4&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure if it has any relation, but it's hard to believe its a coincidence that the thread is from 2004 and the final comment is  '''&amp;quot;I think this thread has run its course, and I'm getting tired of deleting crackpot posts from it. Any objections? Good.&amp;quot;''' [[User:Ornj|Ornj]] ([[User talk:Ornj|talk]]) 09:36, 29 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can anyone identify the icons at the left of the three postings in the comic?  The first looks to be a generic head, but the second is a device of some kind, with (perhaps) a push-button, and a wire leading from and connecting back to the device.  The third might be a person standing next to a Tesla coil or Van de Graaff generator.  [[User:Vere Nekoninda|Vere Nekoninda]] ([[User talk:Vere Nekoninda|talk]]) 14:42, 31 January 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The second device is a power strip plugged into itself. Free energy, after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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This thread lives on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E&lt;br /&gt;
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Perpetual Motion Machines are not free energy. For that to happen, you need it to ''output'' more energy than it uses :( [[User:SilverMagpie|SilverMagpie]] ([[User talk:SilverMagpie|talk]]) 16:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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About the thread, it seems to have been deleted with the site :( [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.36|172.69.71.36]] 01:57, 31 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i can make perpetual motion machines but they need 1 push to start and i don't know if they are perpetual. -Someone From Pluto&lt;br /&gt;
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i can make Perpetual perpetual motion machines. and they dont need a push! - david&lt;br /&gt;
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Just So You Know David Is Beret Guy, So i Don't Think He Counts. -Someone From Pluto&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Rational Wiki'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright I have no problem with giving a link to rational wiki but can someone explain to me why we are redirecting people there when it has significantly less credible citations than wikipedia's pseudoscience page?--[[User:Lackadaisical|Lackadaisical]] ([[User talk:Lackadaisical|talk]]) 20:29, 7 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What started with a single click on Wikipedia's &amp;quot;self-replicating machine&amp;quot; page has led to an ever-increasing number of tabs in my browser containing articles on self-replication.  Please help.  --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.147|162.158.255.147]] 23:13, 16 July 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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''the total time any perpetual motion machine has been running is 0 seconds''&lt;br /&gt;
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Pretty sure that, while literally true in the sense that no perpetual motion machine exists and therefore has never run for any length of time, that's not what Randall meant: I'm sure he meant the total time any '''attempted''' perpetual motion machine has run may be in the weeks and months but not the many years since he started the argument. I will edit in 24 hours if nobody objects. [[User:AmbroseChapel|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel|talk]]) 00:50, 1 September 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Alas for missed opportunities. Remember, the total time any perpetual motion machine has been running is 0 seconds (rounded up).{{unsigned|Dúthomhas|23:44, 28 March 2025}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Isn't it quite unusual that Black Hat does not want to harm anyone in this comic? --[[User:Chtz|Chtz]] ([[User talk:Chtz|talk]]) 22:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is no indication that Black Hat isn't trying to harm someone. We don't see Fred come out, and we have no idea what Black Hat put in that cake. Black Hat is standing back, not near the cake, which has lit &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;fuses&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; candles on it, despite it not being a birthday cake.&lt;br /&gt;
:OTOH, this is only #142, from back in 2006. Maybe Black Hat wasn't quite so heartless back then. [[User:gijobarts|gijobarts]] ([[User Talk:gijobarts|talk]]) 01:53, 6 September 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well the [[72: Classhole]] comic came long before this. But I also think that when Randall shows that even a Classhole has a soft spot for Fred then it is really serious. So I do not think that Black Hat has anything up his sleeve against Fred. (Have deleted a sentence to that regard in the explanation when I just updated it) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It shows later in the Journal series that Black Hat does have a heart, he just doesn't admit it. [[User:Dontknow|Dontknow]] ([[User talk:Dontknow|talk]]) 18:26, 10 March 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not sure if Journal shows that Black Hat has a heart, or just feels lust/attraction, which IMHO is not the same thing... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.207|172.69.194.207]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with gijobarts. I think Black Hat put ''something'' dangerous in that cake, we just don't know what. He was probably acting sentimental to get Cueball to go along with it. [[User:Danish|Danish]] ([[User talk:Danish|talk]]) 18:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::yeah. i think the candles are dynamite. -Someone From Pluto{{citation needed}}{{actual citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
My interpretation of this has always been that Fred is so unfathomably maudlin, vulnerable and (sym)pathetic that even Black Hat takes pity on him. Such is the awesome power of Fred's exceptionally downcast sentimentality. Much like no-one is evil enough to take candy from a baby (re 'Who Shot Mr. Burns') so no-one, not even Black Hat, is callous enough to dick on Fred Gallagher. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.207|172.69.194.207]] 13:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone know if Fred ever responded to this at all?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Heleatunda|Heleatunda]] ([[User talk:Heleatunda|talk]]) 06:11, 11 December 2025 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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