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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;162.158.202.135: Eastern Border of Europe not defined but irrelevant&lt;/p&gt;
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I expect that the BTS question is a reference to the traditional Korean system of counting a person's age in units of Sal which started at 1 and incremented on the first day of the year. Since this system was abandoned on official documents in 2023, but is still in use in some contexts, the question of whether every member of BTS had a &amp;quot;birthday&amp;quot; on the first day of the year is ambiguous. [[User:Philhower|Philhower]] ([[User talk:Philhower|talk]]) 14:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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question 5, planets exist outside the solar system, adding to the ambiguity. [[User:Philhower|Philhower]] ([[User talk:Philhower|talk]]) 14:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:One of the requirements in the definition of a planet is that it orbits the Sun, so no there are no planets outside the Solar system. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 17:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::{{w|NASA}} disagrees. [https://exoplanetarchive.ipac.caltech.edu/ Exoplanet Archive] shows 5612 confirmed planets. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 20:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: The IAU is the body that defines such things - and they do say that planets have to orbit the Sun...things that orbit other stars are properly called &amp;quot;exo-planets&amp;quot;.  But still - do we include dwarf planets?  Rogue planets? It's definitely a crazy-vague question. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.219|172.70.211.219]] 21:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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As for question 9, please see the note about the history of Austrailia's capitals at: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_national_capitals#Oceania]]. and the page regarding countries with multiple capitals [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_multiple_capitals]] [[User:Philhower|Philhower]] ([[User talk:Philhower|talk]]) 14:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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About the alt text, London is certainly in Europe. The question itself is malformed because &amp;quot;Europe (or 'the EU')&amp;quot; is not self-consistent: there is a lot of European countries that are not part of the EU. [[User:RedGolpe|RedGolpe]] ([[User talk:RedGolpe|talk]]) 14:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;Greater London&amp;quot; answer is also tricksy, as the &amp;quot;ceremonial county&amp;quot; of GL {{w|London boroughs|may not include}} the additional area of the City Of London (though it does include the City Of Westminster, which is sometimes the trick answer to certain trick questions that a quizmaster might attempt to pull). The ''administrative'' Greater London is the ceremonial one ''plus'' CoL, however... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.19|172.70.162.19]] 15:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I would argue London is not in Europe because there is no clear definition for Europe as a geographic area, it really doesn't have an eastern border that is not arbitrary, so the only clearly defined thing Europe can refer to is the EU. [[User:Tharkon|Tharkon]] ([[User talk:Tharkon|talk]]) 17:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::London, France is both in Europe and the EU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_France [[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.49|172.70.163.49]] 18:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::While the eastern border of Europe is not clearly defined I am not aware that there is any definition of (geographic) Europe that excludes the islands (and subsequently London) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.135|162.158.202.135]] 21:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benxi Benxi Lake] is actually considered to be the smallest lake in the world. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.135.205|172.70.135.205]]&lt;br /&gt;
:{{cn}}[[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.176|172.70.86.176]] 14:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never realized how challenging it is to edit pages when they've just been posted.  Makes me long for something like Google docs.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.3.43|172.68.3.43]] 14:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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People, who are born on 29th February don't have a birthday in years which are not leap years. However, 2024, when this comic was published is a leap year. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.95.9|162.158.95.9]] 14:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;5. How many planets were there originally?&amp;quot; This could also refer even back to the start of the universe, when there were (likely) just 0 planets. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.101|162.158.86.101]] 14:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I anticiated a lot of Edit Conflicts, but not actually quite so many as to not to be able to resolve my edits with everyone else's. This is the bare-bones that I was putting in (until finding multiple attempts tried to be added consecutively...&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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! Question !! Problem !! Possible answer(s)&lt;br /&gt;
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| Which member of BTS has a birthday this year?&lt;br /&gt;
| Every living person has a birthday this year (being a leap-year, this includes those born on 29/Feb).&lt;br /&gt;
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| How many sides does a platonic solid have?&lt;br /&gt;
| There are five (or [[2781: The Six Platonic Solids|six]]) platonic solids, each with a different number of sides.&lt;br /&gt;
| 4, 6, 8, 12 or 20&lt;br /&gt;
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| What is the smallest lake in the world?&lt;br /&gt;
| The distinction between a small lake and a pond, pool or puddle (for example) is difficult to define.&lt;br /&gt;
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| Which Steven Spielberg movie features more shark attacks? Jaws (1875) or Lincoln (2012)&lt;br /&gt;
| Not a problem, as Lincoln has very few shark attacks.{{Citation needed}} The problem is that barely anyone will ''not'' be able to correctly answer this.&lt;br /&gt;
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| How many planets were there originally?&lt;br /&gt;
| Contextually vague. At what time and within what volume of space, and what is the scope of 'planet' defined here?&lt;br /&gt;
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| What NFL player has scored the most points outside of a game?&lt;br /&gt;
| Outside of (NFL) games, individuals may accumulate points in any number of ways (e.g. Scrabble)&lt;br /&gt;
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| The Wright brothers built the first airplane. Who built the last one?&lt;br /&gt;
| Until no further planes are built, individuals/teams/companies continue to build (to completion) ever more examples, changing the answer possibly moment to moment.&lt;br /&gt;
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| Is every even number greater than 2 the sum of two primes?&lt;br /&gt;
| This is a {{w|Goldbach's conjecture|currently unanswered question}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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| Not counting Canberra, what city is the capital of Australia?&lt;br /&gt;
| Canberra is ''the'' capital of Australia, a fairly well known 'obscure' fact. Each Australian territory also has their own state capital, so there is not one other ''single'' example.&lt;br /&gt;
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| Who played the drums?&lt;br /&gt;
| Lack of context. With which group? For which song? For which (re-)recording? At which event?&lt;br /&gt;
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| Where is London located? (a) The British Isles (b) Great Britain and Northern Ireland (c) The UK (d) Europe (or 'the EU') (e) Greater London&lt;br /&gt;
| Almost all of these are correct (though London is geographically in Europe but no longer in the EU).&lt;br /&gt;
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This is apparently deliberate (at least on behalf of the organisers), perhaps to upset or otherwise impede groups of overconfident quizzers who would otherwise dominate any genuinely good quiz.&lt;br /&gt;
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...make use of it however you wish, anybody who has the time not to keep chasing all the simultaneous edits. (The above is a bit behind 'perfection', and lacks many of the integrations, wikilinks and adjustments I had made. I backspaced out of the edit I had finally reached, before remembering to take a full copy into my paste-buffer!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.115|172.70.90.115]] 14:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the answer to #2 could be 1, because as 3D solids they only have one surface. I would guess the player with the most points outside of a game is the one who's played idlers (like Cookie Clicker) the longest — though I suppose those could be considered &amp;quot;inside of a game&amp;quot; as well. Also, I played the drums. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.254.143|172.70.254.143]] 15:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The answer to #2 is '2 - the in-side and the out-side'.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.242|172.69.43.242]] 15:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Considering the platonic solids explanation lists all the correct answers, could someone include a list of all the members of BTS and their respective birthdays? Bing copilot suggests the following:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. **Jin (Kim Seok-jin)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - Birthday: **December 4, 1992**&lt;br /&gt;
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2. **Suga (Min Yoon-gi)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - Birthday: **March 9, 1993**&lt;br /&gt;
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3. **J-Hope (Jung Hoseok)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - Birthday: **February 18, 1994**&lt;br /&gt;
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4. **RM (Kim Nam-joon)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - Birthday: **September 12, 1994**&lt;br /&gt;
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5. **Jimin (Park Ji-min)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - Birthday: **October 13, 1995**&lt;br /&gt;
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6. **V (Kim Tae-Hyung)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - V's birthday is **December 30**, but the year is not mentioned in the provided information.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. **Jungkook (Jeon Jungkook)**:&lt;br /&gt;
   - Jungkook's birthday is **September 1**, but the year is not mentioned in the provided information.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.19|172.70.162.19]] 15:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I'm not opposed to adding BTS birthdays, but I think it should be done by someone more knowledgeable about the band than me.  Birthdays can be a surprisingly nuanced subject.[[User:Comatoran|Comatoran]] ([[User talk:Comatoran|talk]]) 15:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wikipedia says {{w|V_(singer)|'95}} and {{w|Jungkook|'97}} respectively[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.37|172.70.162.37]] 16:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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London is both a City (London) and a City within a City (The City of London) and an Area (Greater London)&lt;br /&gt;
There are also many more places named London than the one that is the Capital of the UK .. Serbia, France, Canada (Which is larger and the one in the UK), 10 in the USA, and one on Kiribati 17:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Direct assent was a common method in many sci-fi movies. Including the classic {{w|From the Earth to the Moon (film)|From the Earth to the Moon}} [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 19:18, 20 March 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It feels like it needs an addition of more detail from the planned Artemis mission. In several ways it's going to be a &amp;quot;multiple rockets, assembled in orbit&amp;quot; plan (if not Earth orbit, then Lunar), with SLS and Orion scheduled to be cooperating with the Lunar-Starship launch (later, maybe, other independently craft)... which is itself almost a &amp;quot;one big rocket&amp;quot; solution, sticky-taped onto the plan. That's with or without the addition of the dedicated and semi-manned Lunar Gateway moon-orbiting element. I mean, most of the prototypical Apollo-era plans (DA, EOR, LSR and LOR) had their own crazy bits to them, and the full Artemis premise definitely seems crazy as well, if only because the LOR version got chosen for Apollo and pretty much got proven to work. (Or worked enough to even get 13 back home safely!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.254|172.70.85.254]] 21:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Which mission profile will the artemis missions use? --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.202.135|162.158.202.135]] 06:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I see Lunar Earth Rendezvous will be bad for Earth's climate, tides, stock markets and ecosystems. Has anyone considered the impact this will have on the trout population? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.111.48|172.70.111.48]] 00:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The choice of Lunar Orbit Rendezvous wasn't easy for the Apollo planners.  Thanks to John Houbolt, the &amp;quot;voice in the wilderness&amp;quot; as he called himself, NASA finally adopted LOR rather than Direct Ascent or Earth Orbit Rendezvous they were planning in the early 60's.  [https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/remembering-john-houbolt-nasas-voice-wilderness/ Remembering John Houbolt, NASA’s Voice in the Wilderness]   [[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 01:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Randall's been thinking a lot about space recently. No complaints from me. [[User:MrCandela|MrCandela]] ([[User talk:MrCandela|talk]]) 02:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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