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		<title>2851: Messier Objects</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 2851&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = November 6, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Messier Objects&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = messier_objects_2x.png&lt;br /&gt;
| imagesize = 293x294px&lt;br /&gt;
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| titletext = The debate over the correct Messier number for the Ship of Theseus is ongoing.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by a BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARGUING OVER WHAT TO LABEL THE SHIP OF THESEUS - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comic is a play on the {{w|Messier Catalog}}, which is a famous list of astronomical objects compiled by the French astronomer Charles Messier in the 18th century. The real {{w|Messier object|Messier Catalog}} includes 110 objects, which are all deep-space objects like nebulae and galaxies. Its original aim was to help in comet-hunting by cataloguing fuzzy objects which have the same position in the sky, long before their nature became known. Afterwards a lot of other astronomical object catalogues were created, like {{w|New General Catalogue|NGC}} and {{w|SDSS}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic, it's humorously suggested that the catalog includes not just these distant celestial objects, but also very ordinary things found here on Earth. Each ordinary object is labeled with an &amp;quot;M&amp;quot; followed by a number, just as the real Messier objects are numbered (like M1, M31, etc.). However, the numbers are much higher than the 110 included in the actual catalog, and they point to mundane things such as the ground, Charles Messier himself, a tree, a butterfly, and a squirrel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The numbers increase as the objects go from large and significant to humans (the Earth, Charles Messier) to those that are smaller and less significant (a tree, a butterfly, and a squirrel). However, this pattern isn't strictly numerical (i.e., there's no clear mathematical sequence), but rather a conceptual one where the numbers arbitrarily become larger for things that are commonly considered less monumental or noteworthy than celestial objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, the comic is a playful take on a piece of astronomical history, suggesting that everything in the universe is part of the Messier Catalog, not just the deep sky objects Messier originally listed. The Messier Catalog was created to help finding comets; these objects appear blurry like comets, but they're permanent fixtures in the sky like stars, while comets are temporary. There would be no need to include terrestrial objects in the catalog, since they're not likely to be confused for comets.{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text refers to the {{w|Ship of Theseus}}, which is a thought experiment. If a ship has all of its parts replaced over the years, is it the same ship as the original? The title text suggests that this leads to a debate as to whether the original ship and the new ship (with all of its parts replaced) should be considered the same object and therefore given the same Messier number, or the two ships should be considered different objects with different Messier numbers, and if so, which of them should retain the original number.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:[Multiple objects are labelled with M followed by a number.]&lt;br /&gt;
:[There is a tree, a bug, a squirrel, a man with a powdered wig labeled Charles Messier, a squirrel, and ground.]&lt;br /&gt;
:M137 (Earth) (pointing to the ground)&lt;br /&gt;
:M205 (Charles Messier) (pointing to Charles Messier)&lt;br /&gt;
:M21860 (pointing to a tree on the left of the panel)&lt;br /&gt;
:M41592 (pointing to a butterfly above Charles)&lt;br /&gt;
:M30712050 (pointing to a squirrel)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Caption below the panel:]&lt;br /&gt;
:People usually focus on the first 110, but the Messier Catalog actually includes '''''all''''' objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Astronomy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring real people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Philosophy]] &amp;lt;!-- ship of Theseus --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>2851: Messier Objects</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 2851&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = November 6, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Messier Objects&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = messier_objects_2x.png&lt;br /&gt;
| imagesize = 293x294px&lt;br /&gt;
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| titletext = The debate over the correct Messier number for the Ship of Theseus is ongoing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by a BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARGUING OVER WHAT TO LABEL THE SHIP OF THESEUS - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This comic is a play on the {{w|Messier Catalog}}, which is a famous list of astronomical objects compiled by the French astronomer Charles Messier in the 18th century. The real {{w|Messier object|Messier Catalog}} includes 110 objects, which are all deep-space objects like nebulae and galaxies. Its original aim was to help in comet-hunting by cataloguing fuzzy objects which have the same position in the sky, long before their nature became known. Afterwards a lot of other astronomical object catalogues were created, like {{w|New General Catalogue|NGC}} and {{w|SDSS}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic, it's humorously suggested that the catalog includes not just these distant celestial objects, but also very ordinary things found here on Earth. Each ordinary object is labeled with an &amp;quot;M&amp;quot; followed by a number, just as the real Messier objects are numbered (like M1, M31, etc.). However, the numbers are much higher than the 110 included in the actual catalog, and they point to mundane things such as the ground, Charles Messier himself, a tree, a butterfly, and a squirrel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The numbers increase as the objects go from large and significant to humans (the Earth, Charles Messier) to those that are smaller and less significant (a tree, a butterfly, and a squirrel). However, this pattern isn't strictly numerical (i.e., there's no clear mathematical sequence), but rather a conceptual one where the numbers arbitrarily become larger for things that are commonly considered less monumental or noteworthy than celestial objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, the comic is a playful take on a piece of astronomical history, suggesting that everything in the universe is part of the Messier Catalog, not just the deep sky objects Messier originally listed. The Messier Catalog was created to help finding comets; these objects appear blurry like comets, but they're permanent fixtures in the sky like stars, while comets are temporary. There would be no need to include terrestrial objects in the catalog, since they're not likely to be confused for comets.{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text refers to the {{w|Ship of Theseus}}, which is a thought experiment. If a ship has all of its parts replaced over the years, is it the same ship as the original? The title text suggests that this leads to a debate as to whether the original ship and the new ship (with all of its parts replaced) should be considered the same object and therefore given the same Messier number, or the two ships should be considered different objects with different Messier numbers, and if so, which of them should retain the original number.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Multiple objects are labelled with M followed by a number.]&lt;br /&gt;
:[There is a tree, a bug, a squirrel, a man with a powdered wig labeled Charles Messier, a squirrel, and ground.]&lt;br /&gt;
:M137 (Earth) (pointing to the ground)&lt;br /&gt;
:M205 (Charles Messier) (pointing to Charles Messier)&lt;br /&gt;
:M21860 (pointing to a tree on the left of the panel)&lt;br /&gt;
:M41592 (pointing to a butterfly above Charles)&lt;br /&gt;
:M30712050 (pointing to a squirrel)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[Caption below the panel:]&lt;br /&gt;
:People usually focus on the first 110, but the Messier Catalog actually includes '''''ALL''''' objects.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Astronomy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comics featuring real people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Philosophy]] &amp;lt;!-- ship of Theseus --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>2827: Brassica</title>
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| number    = 2827&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = September 11, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = Brassica&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = brassica_2x.png&lt;br /&gt;
| imagesize = 327x319px&lt;br /&gt;
| noexpand  = true&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Sequoia Brussels sprouts are delicious but it's pretty hard to finish one.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by a field of Sequoia cabbage - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;{{w|Brassica oleracea}}&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; is a plant species, to which many vegetables that we eat belong. These vegetables look strikingly different from each other; compare, for example, {{w|cabbage}}, {{w|broccoli}}, {{w|kale}} and {{w|brussels sprouts}}. There are 24 listed on Wikipedia that all look different. These different cultivars all originated from wild cabbage, having evolved into several different forms via (primarily) human selection.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic Cueball (acting presumably as a botanist) declares that the &amp;quot;Mighty Redwood&amp;quot; (presumably the Coast Redwood,  &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;{{w|Sequoia sempervirens}}&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;) also belongs to this species. Since the Coast Redwood is a {{w|conifer}}, while &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;B. oleracea&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; is a {{w|flowering plant}}, the two species are about as different as two land plants can be, both in classification and appearance. If the presumed botanist can get away with this, they can probably get away with just about anything. The caption claims that botanists, including the one appearing in the cartoon (Cueball), attempt this from time to time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The title text refers to Sequoia Brussels sprouts. The reference is probably to the Giant Sequoia (&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;{{w|Sequoiadendron giganteum}}&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;), a close relative of the Coast Redwood. &amp;quot;Resinous&amp;quot; is probably a more apt adjective than &amp;quot;delicious&amp;quot;, and they're probably woody.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: [Cueball, Megan and another Cueball are standing in front of a large tree.  It is about six meters in diameter and about the bottom eight to ten meters are visible.]&lt;br /&gt;
:: Cueball: Did you know the Mighty Redwood is actually the same species as broccoli and kale? It's just a different cultivar.&lt;br /&gt;
:: Another Cueball: Wow!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: [Caption below the panel]&lt;br /&gt;
:: Every year or two, botanists add another plant to Brassica oleracea and see if anyone calls them on it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comic discussion}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:2815: Car Wash</title>
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You know, I've ''never'' been in a carwash. Not even through a hand-wash (these days set up in just about every other ex-petrol(/'gas') station forecourt not redeveloped otherwise. Driven (or walked) right past them on the ways to places (my walk to the supermarket goes past a hand-car-wash, grocery store and tyre business in an ex-petrol station - then I wander past the autocarwash 'booth' at the supermarket-aligned fuelstop, perhaps through the jetwash lanes if nobody's using them), but never took a car to one. There's buckets and sponges/etc at home. Am I missing something? [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.11|172.71.242.11]] 20:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The bucket and sponge method takes time and effort. Automatic car washes are quick and easy. I'm mostly indifferent to car washes, but I like them more than doing it by hand because I'm lazy. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 20:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm indifferent to car washes too. Five years later you just have to do it all over again [[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 23:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and money for the carwash: Driving there (risking incidents), possible queuing to get into retail park, queuing to pay (£££s!), possible queuing for car wash, waiting for it to do its thing (risk of damage!), possible queuing to get out drive back (risking incidents, also normal road-grime)...&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've never gone out specifically to get my car washed. I'm usually out doing other things, I notice the car wash, and realize that my car is dirty, so I go in. And I can't recall ever having to wait more than 5 minutes on the line, usually there isn't any line at all. It's probably not a coincidence that several of the carwashes in my area are near supermarkets. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and money for home-wash: Don't need to leave home. Buckets are older than me, sponges/cloths/brushes may in some cases by younger than 50 years old (but all pre-millenium), car-wax/-shampoo bottle (used sparingly) is 5-10yo and nowhere near empty, water (with a water meter, so does cost) is perhaps equivalent to two days of (hand-!)dishwashing [possibly buying a home jet-washer could bring that down, if it &amp;quot;does a lot more with a fastly moving lesser amount&amp;quot;, but I might then also be tempted to jetwash the drive/windows/rooftiles as well and I'm not even sure it'd be less water through the nozzle as the tap] and (depending on time of year) may involve various mixes of hot and cold (so heating, though practically individible from other hot-water uses other than the kettle for drinks). Time taken: maybe 15 minutes (±5), at leisure while I appreciate all the distracting luxuries of home, or a highly abbreviated (one-bucket) washover/rinse at significantly less than 5 minutes (I'd still be trying to get into the supermarket, even with no queueueuing; perhaps I'd have been handwashed if ''they'' have no queue, but I wouldn't be back again...) and done. Maybe occasionally get the vacuum out and self-valet the insides, for another &amp;lt;5 minutes and probably entirely covered in electricity by what the solar panels have been feeding in during carwashing-friendly daytime conditions.&lt;br /&gt;
::Of course, it'll typically rain shortly afterwards (the rain-gods perhaps even being hopefully invoked by the very act of de-mudding the wheel-arches), but that's not going to differ between either (or neither) efforts to wash. :P [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.45|172.70.85.45]] 21:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What is the point of [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.45|172.70.85.45]]'s comment above? Is it trying to suggest that the time to self-wash is low? Or is it trying to suggest that it is high? (It is hard for me to tell, and definitely not clear!) I am under the general impression that hand-washing of cars, like hand-washing of dishes in the kitchen sink, consumes more water than automatic washing, in addition to the questions about pollutants that are raised below. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 20:37, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Less time, I'd say. A bit of personal effort, but can be done at leisure rather than having to take time out (even 'in passing') from other activities.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I also don't trust the &amp;quot;hand washed dishes takes more water than dishwasher-washed&amp;quot; claim. It's quoted as something like 20 ''gallons'' of water for hand-washing. Couldn't work out if that's US gallons (75 litres) or imperial (90 litres), but a washing up bowl holds 8-10 litres ''full'' and you never really need to fill it to the brim (and it rarely needs to be above ⅓rd full) to do a good job even for a family meal's-worth of crockery and cutlery. Certainly not 7 to 10 bowls'-worth. (I'm guessing it assumes a continuously running tap for rinsing. If you need any rinsing, you just need a short spurt as necessary ''or'' being pre-rinsed under the tap as it third-fills up the bowl, at least in my experience. But only far more profligate methods can possibly reach 70-90 litres, mostly straight down the drain.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Typically quoted UK usage for dishwasher, however, seems to be around 9.5 litres (a full bowl's-worth, i.e. definitely more than a handwash as described). You also can't easily then use the 'grey' water, not-in-a-bowl, directly on some garden plants if you want. So getting double-duty out of it is trickier.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Not sure how much the car-washing bucket would be, but 20 litres seems to be capacity. Car-wash usages seem to be 120 litres (or greater), apparently less than home hosepipe/jetwash amounts, but (IME) I'd never use more than three (not full) buckets to wash even the dirtiest car. Perhaps two (wash and rinse, but the rinse being less full even than the not-full one that has the 'soap' in) or even just the one (rinsing it all, in one go, getting the top and windows nice with the 'fresh' water before working all the way round each level of possibly more mud-splashed bodywork, then hubcaps and wheel(-arches) last). 5 minutes? Yeah, if the car didn't need more than that rinse'n'shine. I'd set aside 10 minutes (non-continuous, if necessary, a bit at a time during TV ad-breaks perhaps) for a decent roof-to-wheels of a typical-sized family car. Can't speak for SUVs or other over-sized models. Much as I can't speak for wasteful hosepipe use or whatavyer... [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.166|172.71.178.166]] 22:46, 15 August 2023 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
:In Germany, you are discouraged and in many localities it's directly forbidden to wash your car on your premises; it is completely forbidden to wash your car on the street. This because of oil that will enter the sewer system. Automated car washes will recycle water and seperate oil from it. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.150.92|172.69.150.92]] 21:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oil? If I notice oil in(/on) the water, I know there's a problem. Maybe a little residue from cleaning inside the fuel-port hatch. The way some people (over)use detergent, I could see ''that'' being an issue, but if you've an oil-leak then that's happening on or off your premises (and mostly off), I'd have thought and you might ''never even know...'' if you don't even wash your own car. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.45|172.70.85.45]] 21:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah. You wash your car because it is dirty, right? What exatly is that dirt, that is being washed off into the gutters? Some mud or earth, sure. But most of it is actually asphalt particles, tyre particles, oil (yes, most probably not from your own car, but from that vintage Cadillac that you were stuck behind all the way home from work), lubricants and grease from heavy trucks and machinery, soot particles and pollutants from industries and old/poorly maintained vehicles. The list goes on and on and most of the stuff is not very friendly to the environment and/or the runoff water treatment systems. Stuff that really should be disposed off properly, like in a dedicated carwash facility as stated above. {{unsigned ip|162.158.111.184|09:05, 16 August 2023}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::If it rains whilst your car is in the driveway(/at the kerbside), the same stuff potentially gets washed off. The fraction of particulates/contaminants that you can deliberately ''keep'' on your car until you go to a (''presumably'' particulate-filtering and safe-disposing?) car wash is minimal. Assuming it does filter, at all. The environment (and civil drainage infrastructure) cannot be considered that much better just because you take your practically clean car to the autowash occasionally just so that you could eat your dinner off of it. Perhaps a special exception when you've been off-road/driving through quarry tailings/whatever and are particularly caked with muddy grime/grimy mud, but not when dealing with the latest 'saharan sand' dustings/etc. There's scope for judgement, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd worry more about surfactant over-use, but looking at the &amp;quot;one size fits all&amp;quot; foam-fest of a typical carwash/jetwash soaping (and unsure how you'd filter that from water, without effort, the whole point being the (half-)hydrophillic nature of the substance) I'm sure that adds more water-treatment effort at the ultimate end of the drains from either the home, street or nearby carwash (which, given we don't have separated rainwater and wastewater drainage systems is already potentially taking away everything that was left to settle on the roads, oil and dirt and mud and leaves and everything else that gets washed/dumped down there). Local laws/situations aside, I'm more comfortable with home-carwashing than it seems some are. Without wasting resources on running a home jet-wash. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.73|141.101.99.73]] 10:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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Am I the only one who actually tried to find out whether baleen really used to be used in car washes or not?&lt;br /&gt;
: I added a quote on its use in the manufacture of brush bristles, although editing is needed. Next might be to figure out what vehicles were used in the 1800s and how they were washed. EDIT: https://academic.oup.com/liverpool-scholarship-online/book/43282/chapter-abstract/363026681?redirectedFrom=fulltext has a paragraph in google's cache that mentions that we can tell there was heavy use of baleen for brushes throughout the 1800s because of the heavy presence in museums. Maybe Randall's comment was inspired by a museum display. This seems possible because there's not much mention of this on the internet. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.185|162.158.154.185]] 01:34, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the fact that baleen is in whale mouths, so that's where Randall got the idea that the brushes are &amp;quot;licking&amp;quot; the car? [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 17:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm not sure that baleen coming from whale mouths would be the main inspiration for the &amp;quot;licking&amp;quot; analogy as much as the motion of the typical automated carwash brushes are. If you swing baleen, or even a tongue for that matter, like a bat to hit something, licking wouldn't make sense as an analogy for that type of motion, regardless of the source, I think. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.161|172.70.210.161]] 15:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do people actually like car washes? It always seemed like an uncomfortable and at times terrifying experience to me. Maybe some people like it, but I would be very surprised if it's just me, Cueball and now Ponytail who don't like it. [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.31|198.41.238.31]] 18:30, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I always thought they were fun and cozy, like being in a car during a rainstorm.  [[Special:Contributions/172.70.100.107|172.70.100.107]] 20:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I used to really like them, but after reading this comic I like them even more. Thinking about car washes as a giant robot licking my car makes it so much more impressive than just &amp;quot;car wash&amp;quot;. [[User:Conantheimp|cdesign proponentsists]] ([[User talk:Conantheimp|talk]]) 10:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Apart from queueing, I am not against car washes - happy to stay inside but not always I am allowed to. Kids do not like it. However, most times the only time I wash my car is when I have to take a flight: the parking lot where I usually leave the car provides optional car wash plus interior cleaning during the stop.  [[User:Vdm|Vdm]] ([[User talk:Vdm|talk]]) 19:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I like car washes. I love the feeling of being enclosed like that; it feels rather like our spring and summer rainstorms in the Pacific Northwest. I also have to do it more often than most; my car is painted in pearl white (not my choice, I got it used like that 3 years ago and it's 20 years old so no point in changing it now), which is a trilayer paint that shimmers and has slight bluish undertones. It shows every speck of dirt and mud, so I need to clean it or it looks really bad. (Tricoat 062 is the color code). [[User:Darkwolf0218|Darkwolf0218]] ([[User talk:Darkwolf0218|talk]]) 23:49, 15 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The final line of the current explanation text is &amp;quot;Are there car washes without brushes?&amp;quot;  There are.  They use high-pressure streams of water, detergent, and possibly other chemicals.  The following links distinguish (sort of) between 'brushless' and 'touchless' car washes.  I don't know if this information has a place in the public-facing text.   https://www.wikimotors.org/what-is-a-touchless-car-wash.htm  https://www.wikimotors.org/what-is-a-brushless-car-wash.htm  [[User:Nekoninda|Nekoninda]] ([[User talk:Nekoninda|talk]]) 02:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I removed that question (in amongst other edits I made) as either being rhetorical or a misplaced genuine query more properly voiced in here. As you've answered it, as well, I think there's no point deciding to transplant it, verbatim, any more than your quote of it. And, yes, useful additional info, but not really relevent to main explanation (if I'm any judge), just an interesting &amp;quot;not even Trivia&amp;quot; note that is welcome enough here in the Talk page/transclusion. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.73|141.101.99.73]] 10:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>2665: America Songs</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;172.70.210.161: /* Table of names matching the rythmic meter of America */ specific date as potentially historically significant relative to the pandemic as suggested on talk&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{comic&lt;br /&gt;
| number    = 2665&lt;br /&gt;
| date      = August 29, 2022&lt;br /&gt;
| title     = America Songs&lt;br /&gt;
| image     = america_songs.png&lt;br /&gt;
| titletext = Juraaaassic Park, Juraaaassic Park, God shed his grace on theeeee&lt;br /&gt;
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==Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete|Created by a JURASSIC PARK SONGWRITER. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Many songs, particularly those written by Americans, contain the word &amp;quot;America.&amp;quot; Randall has listed 5 such songs: &amp;quot;{{w|America the Beautiful}}&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;{{w|God Bless America}}&amp;quot;, Neil Diamond's &amp;quot;{{w|America (Neil Diamond song)|America}}&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;{{w|America (West Side Story song)|America}}&amp;quot; from the Broadway musical ''{{w|West Side Story}}'', the Guess Who's &amp;quot;{{w|American Woman}}&amp;quot; and Green Day's &amp;quot;{{w|American Idiot (song)|American Idiot}}&amp;quot;. These songs usually either praise the United States for its perceived virtues or mock it for its perceived flaws. Regardless of the content of the song, one could likely sing such songs replacing each usage of the word &amp;quot;America&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; with another four-syllable word or phrase with emphasis on the second syllable, without disrupting the {{w|cadence}} or meter of the song. Words and phrases like this are said to &amp;quot;{{w|Scansion|scan}}&amp;quot; with the word &amp;quot;America,&amp;quot; which means to conform to that metrical pattern.&lt;br /&gt;
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The comic provides a list of such names, most of which are locations. While some share virtues or flaws with the United States, most would fit into songs about the United States poorly, and only some are prominent enough to justify a song praising or mocking them. So the substitution is humorous for most of the examples. Other examples include Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Liberia, Nigeria, Bolivia, Siberia, Somalia, Albania, Bulgaria, Colombia, Cambodia, Armenia, Australia, Dominica, Estonia, Mongolia, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, South Africa, El Salvador, the Alamo, and the Netherlands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that inhabitants of some real-world locations mentioned in this comic do not pronounce their names in a way that scans with &amp;quot;America&amp;quot;. Also note that the adjective form of many of the places listed either does not exist or does not fit the same rhythmic structure as &amp;quot;American&amp;quot;. (For instance, while &amp;quot;Antarctican Idiot&amp;quot; scans with &amp;quot;American Idiot&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;St. Petersburgian Idiot&amp;quot; does not; meanwhile, &amp;quot;Canada&amp;quot; does not scan with &amp;quot;America&amp;quot;, but &amp;quot;Canadian&amp;quot; does scan with &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; and was in fact used as such in Weird Al's parody, &amp;quot;{{w|Canadian Idiot}}&amp;quot;.) In these cases, it would be necessary to use the noun form of the name to preserve the song's meter.&lt;br /&gt;
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The title text provides an example: substituting &amp;quot;{{w|Jurassic Park}}&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;America&amp;quot; in the song &amp;quot;{{w|America the Beautiful}}&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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A similar comparison in &amp;quot;scanning&amp;quot; was made in [[1412: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Table of names matching the rythmic meter of America===&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Name || Description&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | Map&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Sasketchewan || Spelled incorrectly, should be ''{{w|Saskatchewan}}''. A province in Canada, whose capital is {{w|Regina, Saskatchewan|Regina}} and largest city is {{w|Saskatoon}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Ontario}} || The largest Canadian province by population and 2nd largest by total area. Includes the capital of Canada, {{w|Ottawa}}, and its largest city, {{w|Toronto}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Olympia, Washington|Olympia}} || Capital of the state of {{w|Washington}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Yosemite}} || National park in the state of {{w|California}}. Pronounced &amp;quot;yoh-SEM-ih-tee&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Los Angeles}} || Largest city in the state of California, and 2nd largest city in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Lake Michigan}} || One of the five {{w|Great Lakes}} in the United States. Borders the states of {{w|Wisconsin}}, {{w|Illinois}}, {{w|Indiana}}, and {{w|Michigan}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Peoria, Illinois|Peoria}} || The county seat of Peoria County, Illinois, and the largest city on the Illinois River. The oldest permanent European settlement in Illinois, according to the Illinois State Archaeological Survey.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Columbia, Missouri|Columbia}} (MO) || Fourth largest city in the state of {{w|Missouri}}. One of {{w|Columbia#United_States|many cities}} in the US named after {{w|Columbia (personification)|Columbia}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Montpelier, Vermont|Montpelier}} || The capital of the state of {{w|Vermont}}, which is a three syllable word pronounced mont-PEEL-yur and thus is erroneously on this list.{{cn}} However, the demonym &amp;quot;Montpelierite&amp;quot; is in fact four syllables so it can be used for the &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; songs.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Schenectady, New York|Schenectady}} || City in Schenectady County, {{w|New York}}. In the 19th century, nationally influential companies and industries developed in Schenectady, including {{w|General Electric}} and American Locomotive Company (ALCO).&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Centralia, Pennsylvania|Centralia}} || Near-ghost town in central {{w|Pennsylvania}} due to a {{w|Centralia mine fire|long running mine fire}} burning beneath the town.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Annapolis, Maryland|Annapolis}} || Capital city of the state of {{w|Maryland}} and home to the {{w|United States Naval Academy}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Columbia, South Carolina|Columbia}} (SC) || Capital of the state of {{w|South Carolina}}. One of {{w|Columbia#United_States|many cities}} in the US named after {{w|Columbia (personification)|Columbia}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Vidalia, Georgia|Vidalia}} || City in the state of {{w|Georgia}}, known for their {{w|Vidalia onion}}s. Vidalia may not actually scan to &amp;quot;America&amp;quot;, as it is pronounced &amp;quot;vy-DALE-yuh&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;vy-DALE-ee-ah&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;vee-DAHL-ee-ah&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Acadia National Park|Acadia}} || National park in the state of {{w|Maine}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Connecticut}} || US State, whose capital is {{w|Hartford, Connecticut|Hartford}} and largest city is {{w|Bridgeport, Connecticut|Bridgeport}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|LaGuardia Airport|LaGuardia}} || One of the three major airports in {{w|New York City}} metropolitan area, named after former mayor {{w|Fiorello La Guardia}}. The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQEddtFN3Q ''West Side Story'' song in question] was performed on February 29, 2020 on [https://youtu.be/6d7Vk_qaiB8?t=150 ''Saturday Night Live''.] The airport was described in 2014 by Joe Biden as being like a third-world country.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Virginia Beach}} || Most populous city in the state of {{w|Virginia}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|The Villages, Florida|The Villages}} || An unincorporated senior living community in the state of {{w|Florida}}. Notable for its local newspaper, ''{{w|The Villages Daily Sun}}'', which was the only top 25 American newspaper (by circulation) to show growth in 2022.[https://pressgazette.co.uk/us-newspaper-circulations-2022/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|St. Petersburg, Florida|St. Petersburg}} || The fifth largest city in the state of Florida. Part of the {{w|Tampa Bay area|Tampa Bay metropolitan area}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Miami Beach, Florida|Miami Beach}} || A coastal resort city in Miami-Dade County, Florida, across the bay from the city of {{w|Miami}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | Below the map&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Algeria}} || A country in North Africa. The largest and the 9th most populated country on the continent of Africa. Bordered to the northeast by Tunisia; to the east by Libya; to the southeast by Niger; to the southwest by Mali, Mauritania, and Western Sahara; to the west by Morocco; and to the north by the Mediterranean Sea. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Armenia}} || A landlocked country located in the Armenian Highlands of Western Asia. It is a part of the Caucasus region.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Monrovia}} || The capital city of the West African country of {{w|Liberia}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Brasília|Brasilia}} || The federal capital of the country of {{w|Brazil}} and Brazil's 3rd populous city. Actually spelled ''Brasília''. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Australia}} || A country which comprises the mainland of the continent of Australia. The world's sixth largest country by area.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Valencia}} || The 3rd most populous city in the country of {{w|Spain}}.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Byzantium}} || An ancient Greek city and capital of the {{w|Byzantine Empire}}. Its name was changed to New Rome in 324, Constantinople in 330, and finally Istanbul in 1930.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Assyria}} || An major ancient Mesopotamian civilization which existed as a city-state and then a territorial state and eventually an empire. The Assyrian Empire fell to the Babylonians and Medes in the late 7th century BC.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Beringia}} || A prehistoric land mass and region in the {{w|Bering Sea}} region. It is the most popular site of the hypothesized &amp;quot;land bridge&amp;quot; that early humans used to migrate to the Americas.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Antarctica}} || The earth's southernmost and least-populated continent, mostly covered by ice.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Sokovia}} || A fictional country in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Described to be in eastern Europe between Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Its capital city is destroyed during a battle between Ultron and the Avengers in the film ''{{w|Avengers: Age of Ultron}}'', leading to the ratification of the Sokovia Accords.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Andromeda}} || Several things: a {{w|Andromeda (constellation)|constellation in space}}, a {{w|Andromeda Galaxy|galaxy}} within that constellation, or the {{w|Andromeda (mythology)|Greek mythological character}} whom the constellation and galaxy are named after.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Lothlórien|Lothlorien}} || A realm of the elves in {{w|Middle-earth}} in the {{w|Tolkien's legendarium|works of J. R. R. Tolkien}}. Ruled by Galadriel and Celeborn. Actually spelled ''Lothlórien'' in the books.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| ''{{w|Subnautica}}'' || Not a place, but an open-world survival action-adventure video game developed and published by Unknown Worlds Entertainment released in 2018.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|metaverse|The Metaverse}} || The online world of {{w|virtual reality}}.  (To substitute into ''American Idiot'', the singer could use &amp;quot;don't wanna be a Metaverse Idiot&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Metaverse idiot&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| {{w|Econo Lodge|EconoLodge}} || Actually spelled ''Econo Lodge'', though their wordmark doesn't help. An economy motel chain in the US and Canada. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Jurassic Park (title text) || Jurassic Park is the titular theme park of cloned dinosaurs in the ''{{w|Jurassic Park}}'' franchise of books, films, and other media. Inevitably, the dinosaurs escape and attack humans.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:[A header is written above a map of the US mainland:]&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Places whose names scan to &amp;quot;America,&amp;quot; so they can be substituted into songs such as:&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:''America the Beautiful''&lt;br /&gt;
:''God Bless America''&lt;br /&gt;
:Neil Diamond – ''America''&lt;br /&gt;
:West Side Story – ''America''&lt;br /&gt;
:The Guess Who – ''American Woman''&lt;br /&gt;
:Green Day – ''American Idiot''&lt;br /&gt;
:[Above the map, towards the left:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Sasketchewan&lt;br /&gt;
:[Towards the right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Ontario&lt;br /&gt;
:[A number of places are marked on the map. From top to bottom, left to right:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Olympia&lt;br /&gt;
:Yosemite&lt;br /&gt;
:Los Angeles&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lake Michigan&lt;br /&gt;
:Peoria&lt;br /&gt;
:Columbia (in Missouri)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Acadia&lt;br /&gt;
:Montpelier&lt;br /&gt;
:Schenectady&lt;br /&gt;
:Connecticut&lt;br /&gt;
:LaGuardia&lt;br /&gt;
:Centralia&lt;br /&gt;
:Annapolis&lt;br /&gt;
:Virginia Beach&lt;br /&gt;
:Columbia (in South Carolina)&lt;br /&gt;
:Vidalia&lt;br /&gt;
:The Villages&lt;br /&gt;
:St. Petersburg&lt;br /&gt;
:Miami Beach&lt;br /&gt;
:[Below the map, in columns:]&lt;br /&gt;
:Australia&lt;br /&gt;
:Armenia&lt;br /&gt;
:Monrovia&lt;br /&gt;
:Brasilia&lt;br /&gt;
:Australia&lt;br /&gt;
:Valencia&lt;br /&gt;
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:Byzantium&lt;br /&gt;
:Assyria&lt;br /&gt;
:Beringia&lt;br /&gt;
:Antarctica&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sokovia&lt;br /&gt;
:Andromenda&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lothlorien&lt;br /&gt;
:Subnautica&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Metaverse&lt;br /&gt;
:EconoLodge&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comic discussion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Maps]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Language]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Songs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Substitutions]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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