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Somebody has been watching Not Just Bikes on YouTube...&lt;br /&gt;
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I would be very interested in having a discussion based on the &amp;quot;livability&amp;quot; comment. If a city is a place to LIVE, then these are fair comments, assuming that travel outside the local area is minimal. But if a city is a place to WORK, like a lot of downtown areas in the Eastern US, then this doesn't hold up as well. People don't live in these areas, they just travel to them on a regular basis.&lt;br /&gt;
:Talk about missing the forest for the trees&lt;br /&gt;
:Agree, downtown areas SHOULD be places to work, live, shop, and play. Eastern US downtowns USED to be that way, until White Flight screwed everything up and created &amp;quot;car culture&amp;quot;. It's long past due for cities to change back. - [[User:Frankie|Frankie]] ([[User talk:Frankie|talk]]) 15:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Places meant for work and work alone are called 'industrial parks'. People's well-being in offices can significantly benefit from green spaces and other amenities like bars and shops.&lt;br /&gt;
:Especially if they feel safe walking to and from those shops. --[[User:Melle|Melle]] ([[User talk:Melle|talk]]) 16:54, 23 September 2023 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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