Talk:2400: Statistics

2020-12-19T03:56:20Z

Mperrotta: Add note about failed image upload

This is a representation of the actual graph showing the efficacy of the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine, based on data from Deutsche Bank AG and the FDA as published in John Authers' Bloomberg Opinion column. And yes, the results are just that clear and graphically obvious (pun unintended). [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 00:51, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

:So, the value on bottom right of the graph ... is it three days? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 03:55, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

When I saw this comic I immediately thought of this bit about doublespeak in graphs. Not saying I inherently believe or disbelieve numbers/statistics about covid but an impressive graph with no numbers...Apparently it is actually that clear though.
https://youtu.be/qP07oyFTRXc?t=292
[[User:DarkVex9|DarkVex9]] ([[User talk:DarkVex9|talk]]) 01:05, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

The graph really is a scientist's dream. It's so pretty that I had to add it to the explanation, but I'm not sure my upload worked (permissions?). Someone should screen grab fig 2 from [https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download the FDA briefing] and add it. [[User:Mperrotta|Mperrotta]] ([[User talk:Mperrotta|talk]]) 03:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

2400: Statistics

2020-12-19T03:51:39Z

Mperrotta: /* Explanation */ Add likely source of inspiriation.

{{comic
| number = 2400
| date = December 18, 2020
| title = Statistics
| image = statistics.png
| titletext = We reject the null hypothesis based on the 'hot damn, check out this chart' test.
}}

==Explanation==
{{incomplete|Created by a PLACEBO GROUP. Please mention here why this explanation isn't complete. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}

This comic is another comic in a [[:Category:COVID-19|series of comics]] related to the {{w|2019–20 coronavirus outbreak|2020 pandemic}} of the {{w|coronavirus}} {{w|SARS-CoV-2}}, which causes {{w|COVID-19}}.

The main focus of the comic is a graph showing cases of COVID-19 versus time for two groups: one group was vaccinated and the other group was not. (It is not clear which COVID-19 vaccine(s) are included in the graph, but it is mostly likely either the Moderna vaccine or the Pfizer vaccine. Graphs are ways to visualize data, and almost always indicate specific values. This graph does not; it simply has two lines. The higher line ("placebo group") rises in a steep curve. The lower line ("vaccine group") follows the first for a bit but then levels out to a much slower rate of climb. The caption eschews statistical analysis in favor of a holistic assessment: the vaccine is clearly working; just look how far apart those lines are.

This comic was released one day after the [https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download FDA's Dec 17th briefing document for the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine] was released. The document includes the following chart: [[File:FDA_Modena_Dec17.png]]

The advice here could be seen as the inverse of the "science tip" in [[2311: Confidence Interval]], in which the data was so ''bad'' that its error bars fell outside of the graph and were not shown.

==Transcript==
{{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
:[Shown is a graph with the x-axis labeled "time" and the y-axis labeled "COVID cases." There is a black line on the graph labeled "placebo group", which has a roughly linear slope moving toward the top right corner. There is a red line labeled "vaccine group", which follows the black line for about an eighth of the width of the graph before leveling off.]
:[Caption beneath the graph]:
:Statistics tip: Always try to get data that's good enough that you don't need to do statistics on it

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