Talk:2410: Apple Growers

2021-01-12T08:31:28Z

Reisbein: idea

I think this is the first strip to refer to Trump by name. Can anyone confirm that? [[User:Captain Video|Captain Video]] ([[User talk:Captain Video|talk]]) 05:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

: Negatory. [[2137: Text Entry]] is one I remember. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.173|172.69.63.173]] 06:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
::The earliest I'm aware of is [[980: Money]] from 2011 (so before he'd held elective office). It's almost unfindable in the giant image. Trump is mentioned in the lower right corner of the "Billionaires" box, inside the very large "Billions" section. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.64|108.162.237.64]] 06:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
::: And, of course, [[2383: Electoral Precedent 2020]].
:I was sufficiently interested in this question to actually look it up with the search function. Turns out the transcripts are actually useful for something!
:*[[980: Money]] is the only one from before Trump was elected President
:*[[1836: Okeanos]] (mentioned as "Trump" only) is the first after the election - May 12, 2017, nearly six months after it
:*[[1939: 2016 Election Map]] ("Trump" only)
:*[[2126: Google Trends Maps]]
:*[[2137: Text Entry]]
:*[[2220: Imagine Going Back in Time]] ("Trump" only)
:*[[2383: Electoral Precedent 2020]] ("Trump" only)
:*[[2399: 2020 Election Map]] ("Trump" only)
:As far as I can tell, these are the only nine comics (inclusive of this one) that use the name "Trump", and there are only four occurrences of "Donald Trump", including this. So it's not unknown, but Randall does seem to be avoiding it. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.238|108.162.237.238]] 06:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Is it really a good idea to take the lack of masks on the spokesfolks as evidence of their mental state? It seems to me that Randall often draws characters without masks when they're not directly topical, even in these days of Covid precautions, and the reporters aren't wearing masks either. It's unlikely that either group is made up entirely of family members who share the same residence [citation needed], so I would count it more likely that they can all be assumed to be masked in the same way that they can be assumed to have eyes and mouths despite lack of any visual indicators of such. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.216|108.162.245.216]] 07:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the state is Washington. Washington's pretty well known for apples, and the Cosmic Crisp variety mentioned in the title text was developed by researchers at Washington State University. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.40|108.162.245.40]] 08:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

According to a quick Wikipedia search, the title text's "we have SO MUCH to say" could be a reference to the fact that promotion for cosmic crisp was apparently the largest campaign in apple industry history. If anyone has the time to check and confirm that, we should add it to the explanation. [[User:Bischoff|Bischoff]] ([[User talk:Bischoff|talk]]) 08:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Does anybody agree that "Uh, apples are great. Best fruit. Everyone should buy 1,000 of them" is a reference to Trump-style way of talking in speeches? [[User:Reisbein|Reisbein]] ([[User talk:Reisbein|talk]]) 08:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Talk:308: Interesting Life

2019-06-23T21:58:42Z

Reisbein: my 2 cents

The "interesting life" is a reference to a purported Chinese curse, "{{w|May you live in interesting times}}." There is no such curse recorded in Chinese -- it's apocryphal.

The adventure is being contrasted with working a 9-5 job in a {{w|cubicle}} farm, considered a boring and safe occupation. [[Special:Contributions/66.202.132.250|66.202.132.250]] 18:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

This makes me think of the early scene in the Matrix, where Morpheus tries to convince Mr. Anderson (Neo) to escape his office through the window. {{unsigned ip|173.245.52.204}}

Sorry, being a Chinese, I have never heard of this particular curse, not even my grandmother or parents has mentioned this to me. I can safely assume this curse doesn't exist.Boeing-787lover 08:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC) {{unsigned|Xkcdreader52}}

;Could Cueball be held?

Someone should actually perform the tensile test on the cat6 cables. Does anyone have access to such equipment? It is very likely that it varies highly across different brands. If anyone does have access, I can provide samples of different brands for testing. [[User:BK201|BK201]] ([[User talk:BK201|talk]]) 17:15, 12 December 2013 (UTC)BK201

:Check the box of cable next time you get a shipment. The tensile strength is shown as a "do not exceed" weight. The one in our data closet says "Do not exceed 30lb/13.6kg pull". Beyond that, the cable will be damaged. Assume the company is cutting the tensile strength in half to avoid lawsuits, the tensile strength would be 60lb - less than an average adult. Further, if you are just holding onto the cable and you didn't fashion a harness, the insulation around the outside of the cable has a far lower tensile strength than the metal wiring. It is designed to easily separate when pulled. So, you'd quickly end up holding a strip of insulation as it slides off the internal wires. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.161|108.162.237.161]] 15:11, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

: I looked it up, and tensile strength aside, Cat-6 cables only go up to 100 meters in length. This is about 10 storys, minus some for the harness and latching into the inside of the building, but plus some for jumping down at the bottom. I think Cueball would need to escape back through his office from under the eleventh floor. I've added that.

:: Usually a storey is about 3 metres, so 100m means 33 storeys :-)
::--[[User:Lou Crazy|Lou Crazy]] ([[User talk:Lou Crazy|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

A minor point, but Megan appears to have come to the end of her rope, could this be another hidden metaphor? {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.194}}

Cat-5/6 cable can be damaged at a tension much lower than its tensile strength. Most ethernet cable is twisted-pair, that is two wires that are literally twisted around each other. Given the high frequencies used in networking, this twisting has to be extremely precise; any stretching or extreme bending will create noise (EMI) problems which will destroy the cable's ability to carry digital packets. Cat-5 is never used where its tensile strength is an issue. Going from specs, Cat-5 usually uses 24AWG copper which, according to spec, has a minimum tensile strengh of 10lbs. Given 8 wires, the minimum strength would be 80 lbs due to copper alone. The sheath and insulation provide additional strength. So long as the office guy is in the 150lb range using Cat-5 would likely work. However, that cable would likely never carry another packet. {{unsigned ip|70.167.40.88}}

I'm not an expert but ... wouldn't the climbing person hang on cable-isolation only? Because he would have a grip on the synthetic material, which is not connected in the length to the metal inside. So the isolation would tear and he would have to get a better grip on the metal and hurt his stick fingers ...
And another question is: where is the upper end of the cable plugged into? A computer? ... {{unsigned ip|162.158.90.192}}

300m cables are manufactured, but more than 100m shouldn't be used (the comic mentions 300m, but then 33 stories, which refers to ~100m according to the discussion above). So anything longer is probably not in close vicinity in an office building. Also there is no reason to assume, that cueball is in a really tall skyscraper, and not just a few floors above ground. That paragraph should be rewritten, but I'm not sure how... --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 07:55, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

The length of the cable and the isolation problem discussed above are irrelevant because the cable is not meant to be used as a rope. It's only meant as material to build a harness. Megans idea is to follow her on the existing rope. That's not possible because the rope ends as noted above but that's a fault, I think. [[User:Reisbein|Reisbein]] ([[User talk:Reisbein|talk]]) 21:58, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:2410: Apple Growers

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