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Props to Randall for not mentioning toilet paper ONCE [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.88|172.69.34.88]] 21:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:He couldn't. There aren't any more toilet paper jokes left! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.52|162.158.159.52]] 11:17, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I heard there are plenty of toilet paper jokes, but people are hoarding them ...[[User:Boatster|Boatster]] ([[User talk:Boatster|talk]]) 13:43, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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The transcript states that the axis lines do not have arrows on them. It should describe the arrows on labels, i.e. More common with arrow pointing to the right. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 23:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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My initial take on the More Healthy axis reflected on the person doing the worrying, that is some worries would be more or less common depending on the health of the person. The explanation interprets More Healthy to refer to the worry itself, that is some worries are intrinsically more healthy than others. I am at a loss to determine which of these interpretations more closely fits the worries that are listed. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 23:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:While there are some data points that could fit the "health of the worrier" interpretation (eg a sick person would worry more about how they got a cough, while a healthy person might not even have a cough), I think all of them can fit the "health of the worry" and some of them explicitly do not fit the former. For example a sick person is not less likely to worry that "random people in a news story" are reacting wrong compared to "your government"; and a healthy person is more likely to worry that a lack of rest/hydration will cause them to *get* the virus yet that dot is both low on the "healthy" axis and higher on the "commonality" axis than general concern about rest/hydration. Finally if it was how common the worry was depending on the health of the person then I would expect lines or curves rather than points, since that would better show whether a healthy person is more or less likely to have a worry than a sick person; as it stands they indicate a single value per worry, suggesting that each worry has a definite commonality and health value rather than a dependent relationship. {{unsigned ip|162.158.74.45}}<br />
::I'm pretty sure this is not about how healthy the worrier is, but about how healthy it is to have that worry. For example, it is healthy to think about drinking enough and getting rest, because that may make you actually do that. However, it is probably not a good idea to worry whether not doing so might increase your risk to get infected, because, while the topic is the same as the first worry, this phrasing suggests a much more panicking kind of worry that might ultimately make you lose your sleep, contradicting your worry in the first place and being detrimental to your health, both physical and mental. The second bunch of worries is similar: Worrying about your own staying at home may make you do so, which is healthy, similar to worrying about your friends and family. Worrying about the government might at least increase the pressure on them to do the necessary action. Worrying about random people reacting wrongly won't get you anywhere but into panic. And finally, for the last two, worrying about your work may not be particularly healthy, but it is not exactly a panic reaction, either. Panicking about every door knob and cough however may be very detrimental to your mental health and even risk your physical health if you leave home in order to get tested which might bring you into contact with people that really are infected. Still not sure whether it is more about the potential threat to your future physical health if you panic or whether it is about what it says about your current mental health if you do. Well, just my two cents. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.45|141.101.69.45]] 10:24, 20 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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"with at least eight in a row" -- this is getting hecka tiresome. Surely he can think of _something_ other than the flu 2.0.{{unsigned ip|108.162.216.136}}<br />
:Wouldn't it be interesting if your dismissive "flu 2.0" led you be infected by the Coronavirus....[[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.136|162.158.214.136]] 01:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::The hole world is only talking about Corona. Any other subject would be dismissed. This was already the topic of the first [[Coronavirus Name]]. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Is this the largest run on a single topic in xkcd history?[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:51, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Yes for sure. He has had five comics in a week series, but they never continued later. It is also by now the longest "series", but since this is more a topic than a series, I guess this cannot be called a series. Guess we will have to wait making any final conclusions regarding this until the topic or the virus dies out. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::...or we do? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.8|162.158.38.8]] 15:03, 20 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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For most people in not-at-risk groupings (meaning not elderly, infants, or immuno-compromised), it really isn't that big of a hit to their health. The risk is not that a young/middle-aged person gets sick, the risk is that they spread it to someone who is in an at-risk segment. Nevertheless, people die all the time from the regular flu, and not in trivial numbers. This isn't that much different. More people are going to be hurt much worse from losing their jobs (hospitality, entertainment, service ... and the industries that support them), incomes, and probably homes than would have been from this. {{unsigned ip|162.158.74.45}}<br />
:The thing is: Covid-19 is currently not a big health risk for most people, because there are strong measures to fight it. Without of those measures it would me much more people affected. Also if you look at Italy: Most people dying there are elderly. Because they do not get sufficient treatment. Why? Because they give the lung machines to younger people instead. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 08:56, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Latest numbers from an estimate done in London is that the United States will lose 4 million people if we do nothing, 2 million if standard social distancing measures work, and if we all go into Wuhan style lockdown once every few weeks for the next 18 months, we'll lose a few tens of thousands per wave. It now appears that getting this thing does NOT spur your immune system to create antibodies against it, so you can potentially get it every wave.[[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:51, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Wow{{Citation needed}} for that last statement. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Can I remember how to do a link in this system? I'll do it both ways. [https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf]<br />
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Shouldn't it be "libration" not "libation"? Pretty sure drinking has nothing to do with it. Also pretty sure this is a mistake and not a clever alteration. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.57|162.158.62.57]] 16:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
:No, it's a clever alteration because "libration" is listed right above it. --[[User:Videblu|Videblu]] ([[User talk:Videblu|talk]]) 16:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
::That's just a mistake - he meant to write 'vibration'[[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.16|141.101.76.16]] 16:48, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::'Vibration' wouldn't make any sense, 'libation' is at least humorous, I vote it was no mistake. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.54.64|172.68.54.64]] 18:00, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::You're right - I don't know what I could have been thinking...[[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.16|141.101.76.16]] 08:49, 19 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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I formatted the transcript into a bullet tree since I thought it was the closest equivalent you can get in plain text to the branching flowchart deal in the comic. I'm open to alternative suggestions. The biggest problem I encountered, and one I'd like to see resolved, is what to do in the case where two branching sections butt up against each other, e.g. winter/summer and solstice/Olympics. I used an arrow symbol ("→") on an in-between line just to separate the set of bullets, but if someone wants to change that, I'm up for it. [[User:Kenbellows|Kenbellows]] ([[User talk:Kenbellows|talk]]) 18:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I find the bullet tree legible for the last few long lines, but it's hard to follow a single path. I was thinking of using (option 1|option 2) syntax, but that would probably look messy too. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.29|162.158.91.29]] 18:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I think indenting when lines diverge and un-indenting when they converge would make it look nice and be easy to follow. I'm willing to do the work if others agree. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.9|162.158.74.9]] 23:58, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Could you do it? I don't see what it looks like. Is it similar to [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1930:_Calendar_Facts&oldid=14939 this]? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.88.68|162.158.88.68]] 06:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Random error noticed - the line connecting "International Date" and "Mason-Dixon" to "Line" is drawn in the wrong color. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.136|162.158.75.136]] 18:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Isn't the point with this comic that there is at least one valid path for every included element? I don't think Randall intended it to be a factorial combination because as the explanation suggests, most would be wrong/absurd/silly. But why not instead try to find some invalid element when it can be included in any possible path from end to end? Toyota Truck Month or Shark Week might not happen next year, who knows? Can anyone find any element that has no valid path at all? If not, then maybe the main explanation should be updated to fit the model recommended here.[[User:Lunar7|Lunar7]] ([[User talk:Lunar7|talk]]) 20:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not sure there's any 'fact' that could be constructed that 'scientists are really worried' about. Unless it's something to do with Shark Week. Although having said that, it doesn't actually say that they're worried 'about it', so I guess you could append this to any otherwise true fact and still have something true, albeit non sequitous. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.16|141.101.76.16]] 08:53, 19 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure the whole point of this comic was to be a "screw you" to the Explain XKCD crew. Way to roll with the punches. {{unsigned ip|172.68.174.16}}<br />
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[https://www.pibweb.com/xkcd_calendar.php PIBWEB online generator of Calendar 'facts'] using this formula.<br />
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http://calendarfact.com/ (https://github.com/mstratman/calendarfact)<br />
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: Not sure who's responsible for this, but there seem to be a few errors. "Might (not happen/happen twice) this year" is missing "this year", and "the (harvest/super/blood) moon" is similarly missing "moon". Also, I see a part "happens at the same time every year" that I don't see in the comic. Are there any other additions; and is there a way to find them other than keep refreshing? -- [[User:Angel|Angel]] 18:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:: Checked the source; looks like "at the same time" replaces "at the wrong time". Also, some of the options are missing a "." between the main tree and the title text or at the end of the sentence. (And for some reason every time I go to edit this talk page, the wiki logs me out) -- [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.167|162.158.91.167]] 18:48, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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: The source is on [https://github.com/staab/xkcd-1930 github] - you can add pull requests to fix errors (I'll take care of the aforementioned errors).<br />
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Here's mine.<br />
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http://www.hearn.to/calendar.html<br />
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Here's one I wrote on jsFiddle. Glad I'm not the only one who read this and immediately thought, "I must code this!" [[Special:Contributions/172.68.34.64|172.68.34.64]] 21:29, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Here's a GraphML gist that I knocked up:<br />
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The only change I made was to "precession", "libration", etc by adding the word "the" in front because it reads better. At least to my British English sensibilities. YLMV.<br />
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I tuned it into a twitter bot: http://twitter.com/xkcd_cal_facts. It’s built using Tracery and cheapbotsdonequick.com<br />
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I made one too! https://jsfiddle.net/kr661rhy/<br />
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Here's my python implementation (it ain't pretty, but then I'm not very good at python yet, either): <br />
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And my Crystal implementation: <br />
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As there are many generators isn't better to remove links to generators from the comic explanation and add a link to this section?<br />
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Here is my implementation in '''Haskell''':<br />
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I made a '''Python''' command and function;<br />
* Package: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/calendar-fact<br />
* Source: https://gitlab.com/uda/calendar-fact<br />
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I wrote a command line tool in '''node.js'''. My code's pretty concise because it doesn't hard code all possible options for each "piece" but uses the "(choice|choice|choice)" syntax. <br />
* Package: https://npmjs.com/package/xkcd-calendar-facts<br />
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I created a human-readable file format to represent structures like the one in the comic, then wrote a '''C''' program to parse those files, so now you can write your own calendar facts.<br />
* Source: https://github.com/saucecode/adventure-sets [[Special:Contributions/198.41.238.82|198.41.238.82]] 03:13, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I don't think this is the correct definition for equinox, the plane comprising the Earth orbit around the Sun is never perpendicular to the Earth's axis. During the equinox the sun rays arrive to the Earth perpendicular to the equator line, this would be better. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.62.238|172.68.62.238]] 22:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)CBM<br />
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:I agree with the comment above; the Earth's axis is always tilted 23 degrees from the plane of the orbit. There are times the North pole is tilted toward the Sun and times it is tilted away from the Sun. Twice a year (at the equinoxes) the tilt is perpendicular to the Sun. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.239|108.162.221.239]] 22:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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:I've edited the descriptions - do they look better now? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.126.28|162.158.126.28]] 00:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Twice the description references locations that don't follow the common DST plan as 'other than the natural latitude would suggest'. The ''longitude'' would suggest a time zone, not the latitude. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.239|108.162.221.239]] 22:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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The electric charge on an electron is conventionally described as being negative. I was always taught that this was because of a more or less arbitrary decision made by Franklin. I suspect Mr Munroe is humorously conflating this with Franklin's connection to Daylight Saving Time. <br />
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My personal favorite: “Did you know that Toyota Truck Month happens at the wrong time every year because of a decree by the pope in the 1500s? Apparently it’s getting worse and no one knows why. While it may seem like trivia, it is now recognized as a major cause of World War 1. [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 02:06, 19 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Got this from the link to the fact generator, and I like that too, maybe because it is close to the one above, which I first saw now:<br />
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:Did you know that Shark Week drifts out of sync with the sun because of a decree by the pope in the 1500s?<br />
:Apparently it's getting worse and no one knows why.<br />
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Damn sharks and pope decree. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 10:08, 19 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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"Did you know that Shark Week might happen twice this year because of..." Sold. Don't care about the rest. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.34.64|172.68.34.64]] 23:28, 20 December 2017 (UTC)<br />
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Is no one going to mention that "Shark Week" sometimes is used as slang to refer to menstruation? That's what I thought of the moment I saw it, and since cycles are roughly every 28 days but can change length slowly to re-synchronize (with others or for various reasons) that might be another valid interpretation. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.86|172.69.22.86]] 20:14, 31 December 2017 (UTC)Rowan<br />
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What's incomplete in this explanation? Seems pretty exhaustive to me. Can't we remove the incomplete tag? Zetfr 15:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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The explanation says the comic generates facts. But as most of them are false it should refer to them as factoids. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.8|162.158.38.8]] 11:19, 18 February 2020 (UTC)</div>162.158.38.8