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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1716<br />
| date = August 5, 2016<br />
| title = Time Travel Thesis<br />
| image = time_travel_thesis.png<br />
| titletext = 'Hey, what are those futuristic goggles for, anyway?' 'Oh, this is just a broken Google Glass. It was 2010's night at the club.'<br />
}}<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
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{{incomplete | Explanation can be scaled back to mention that closed loop and time paradoxes are not real since time travelers can predict outcome of conversation that may never take place}}<br />
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[[Cueball]] has apparently been reading about {{w|time travel}}. He tells [[Megan]] about this, and Megan excitedly remarks that she did her college thesis on time travel which basically means that she is supposed to know a lot more about time travel than a guy who has just been "reading" about it.<br />
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Cueball, however, continues to ask her if she knows basic facts about time travel, like he is investigating if he has discovered facets about it that she would have overlooked while writing a thesis about it. Megan keeps trying to say that since she wrote a '''Time Travel Thesis''', (hence the title of the comic), she already knows all of this and much, much more, and she is obviously getting frustrated by Cueball's attempts to impress her with his "knowledge".<br />
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At this point Megan's future-self arrives with a ''Bzzzzt'', having used time travel to arrive at this exact moment in time. It seem she has continued her research and has successfully managed to make a time machine (maybe in a collaboration with others, but with the ability to use it to her own end and needs.) <br />
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The reason she arrives is only to tell her younger self that this conversation with Cueball doesn't go anywhere and isn't important, and so present-Megan can leave and not waste her time anymore. Up till then, Megan was presumably reluctant to break off a conversation on the topic of time travel, since the conversation could potentially have improved, or maybe she was even at first attracted to Cueball and interested because he at least had read about time travel. But once the conversation began to run off track, it came as a relief to know that she could quit without the risk of missing out on anything important. <br />
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And then she just walks away with her future-self leaving Cueball hanging in the last panel, having invented a completely new way to get out of useless/boring conversations.<br />
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Alternatively, future-Megan just makes an excuse to haul present-Megan off in order to prevent the latter from disclosing some details of time travel science to Cueball, which could have unintended consequences. However using very advanced technology, or even violating physics law, for ''very mundane'' ends is a very common in xkcd, so using time travel to prevent useless conversation is not surprising from Megan.<br />
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In either case if future-Megan did not finish the conversation she would not know it was unimportant, thus indicating that she actually did. So by coming back she now changes her own (and Cueball's) future. But maybe she knows this will not change anything, just save her self from wasting time. Of course the general implications of being able to travel like this are enormous, and the {{w|Grandfather paradox|paradoxes arising}} from such a possibility endless. For instance the future Megan could now describe to the present Megan how to make the time machine. But why not have gone even further back making it possible to travel in time even earlier etc. (And of course the whole going back and killing one of parents before they even meet, like the idea in {{w|The Terminator}} movie). Generally time travel is a [[:Category:Time travel|recurring theme]] in xkcd. It is worth noting, however, that the comic does not inherently cause a paradox. Were Megan to actually finish the conversation originally and then travel back in time to interrupt it, so long as the Megan who ''didn't'' finish the conversation stills travels back in time with the ''knowledge'' that the conversation didn't actually go anywhere and still saves her younger self from wasting her time, a time loop can be logically sustained.<br />
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It is possible that [[Randall]] may have had some conversations like this, where after having spend a lot of time getting nothing out of it himself, would have wished his future self had come back to tell him to just leave the conversation now.<br />
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In the title text present-Megan asks future-Megan about her futuristic googles and what they are for, presumably assuming they are needed for the time travel (maybe it is the backpack?) However it turns out it's just some old and broken {{w|Google Glass}}. The only reason future Megan wears these is that she attended a party at the club that had a 2010's night theme.<br />
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This is an indication of how far from the future she has traveled, as Google Glass was first released in the 2010's. It is not clear whether she is wearing Google Glass because it became popular in the 2010's or because it was an esoteric piece of hardware that people would readily associate with the 2010's. Also a 90s party may be thrown today, but not a 2000's party. So it is safe to assume that Megan is at least from the 2030's. Also people attending retro dress-up parties frequently make mistakes and do not dress up exactly in-style, creating some anachronisms, especially if they dress up like they did many years ago.<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[Cueball is facing Megan, talking to her.]<br />
:Cueball: I've been reading about time travel.<br />
:Megan: Cool! I did my thesis on time travel!<br />
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:[Cueball is now gesturing toward Megan. An electrical charge of some sort is shown occurring outside the panel in the bottom right corner behind Megan.]<br />
:Cueball: Nice! So you know about closed timelike curves?<br />
:Megan: Yup. Thesis.<br />
:Cueball: Apparently wormholes can use exotic matter to–<br />
:Megan: I know. Like I said–<br />
:Charge: <big>''Bzzzt!''</big><br />
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:[Megan has turned away from Cueball to the right. Megan from the future, wearing sunglasses, a headset and a machine strapped to her back has entered the frame from the right where the charge appeared.]<br />
:Future-Megan: You can skip this conversation. It doesn't turn out to be important.<br />
:Megan: Oh, thank God.<br />
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:[Cueball is standing alone, the two Megans have left the panel.]<br />
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{{comic discussion}}<br />
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[[Category:Time travel]]</div>162.158.60.53https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1688:_Map_Age_Guide&diff=1215411688: Map Age Guide2016-06-08T04:03:12Z<p>162.158.60.53: changed "Middle Earth" to "Middle-earth"</p>
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<div>{{comic<br />
| number = 1688<br />
| date = June 1, 2016<br />
| title = Map Age Guide<br />
| image = map_age_guide.png<br />
| titletext = Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death? If yes, banshee. If no, seagull.<br />
}}<br />
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*A [http://xkcd.com/1688/large/ larger version] of this image can be found by clicking the image at xkcd.com - the comic's page can also be accessed by clicking on the comic number above.<br />
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==Explanation==<br />
{{incomplete|Errors in the year etc. should be collected in the [[#Trivia|trivia section]]. Another table with the possible year ranges and the length of their interval would be interesting. (Only for the political maps) What are the longest range after 1805 and how finely disected are the maps closer to today?}}<br />
The comic consists of a flowchart depicting various ways to tell what era a map is from based on present country borders and land forms. (Except in the Not a Political Map Branch (from "Can you see the familiar continents?" downwards), the comic applies to a political map.) While many of the options are very serious, a few bizarre options reference to fictional maps ({{w|Discworld}}, {{w|Narnia}} and Tolkien's {{w|Middle-earth}}), or consider that seagulls, staplers, tubas or breadboxes could be mistaken for a map. Randall also mentions US President {{w|Jimmy Carter}} being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit, an event previously referenced as one we must never forget in [[204: America]].<br />
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The flowchart, although probably effective in eventually identifying the production year of certain maps, is designed in a rather inefficient way as some early distinctions are already on a very detailed level before some really important distinctions (fictional or non-political map) are made. This, of course, adds to the humorous tone of the comic. It is also hampered by several smaller or larger error (see [[#Trivia|trivia]]), the biggest a whole section on I-25 that gives year in the range 1948-1952, before the I-25 was built and coming from a question that fixed the year range to 1960-1961.<br />
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Additionally, (possible) future maps including a "Radioactive Exclusion Zone" in the place of Colorado are mentioned. It predicts that some kind of nuclear incident will occur in Colorado (possibly at Rulison or Rio Blanco nuclear testing sites) in 2022. It also predicts that the area will be infested by radioactive spiders one year later.<br />
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The title text continues the path where the user has confused a seagull for a map by inquiring if the (presumed) seagull might be a banshee based on the effect of its screams.<br />
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===Table===<br />
*Going through the flowchart, taking the leftmost path first, recursively. (Note there is no recursive loop). See also {{w|Depth-first search}}. <br />
**"Prior Date Range" is the range determined immediately before the question, carried over from the previous question.<br />
**"Question Date Range" is the range each answer choice implies. <br />
**"New Date Range" is the intersection of the Prior Date Range and the Question Date Range for each choice, and is the range determined by all questions hitherto answered.<br />
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{| border =1 width=100% cellpadding=5 class="wikitable"<br />
! # !! Question !! Explanation !! Prior Date Range !! Question Date Range !! New Date Range<br />
|-<br />
! 1<br />
| '''Istanbul or Constantinople'''<br />
| The largest city in Turkey is famous for having different names at different times or to different people. Variations on both names go back at least 1,000 years. Other names have also been used at various points. {{w|Istanbul}} has been the official name since the 1920's, although Western maps often referred to it as Constantinople as late as the 1960's; on the flowchart, the choice of name appears to go with the 1920's date. The name changes are the subject of a [http://mentalfloss.com/article/60314/original-istanbul-not-constantinople song], originally by the Four Lads, but now mainly known for the They Might Be Giants recording.<br />
| '''Start here'''<br />
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* Constantinople: 330 - 1928 <br />
* Neither: inconclusive<br />
* Istanbul: 1928+<br />
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* Constantinople: 330 - 1928 (Go to 2)<br />
* Neither: inconclusive (Go to 19)<br />
* Istanbul: 1928+ (Go to 52)<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="6" | '''Note:''' the chart splits here into three divisions, each from a choice in question 1. The Neither Division will attempt to use other indicators to sort maps into one of the other two divisions or branches thereof, or, after 5 failures to find a country, conclude that the "map" in question is not a political map and proceed to find out what it is (the Not a Political Map Branch). The Constantinople and Istanbul Divisions are linear except where the Neither Division joins them as stated above.<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Constantinople Division<br />
|-<br />
! 2<br />
| '''Do any of these exist?'''<br />
* '''Independent Canada'''<br />
* '''US Territory of Alaska'''<br />
* '''Tokyo'''<br />
| All these seem to specify a date cut-off of 1867/8, but there are caveats attached to each:<br />
* Canada gained its independence gradually, but it would appear as its own country on maps some time between the {{w|Constitution Act, 1867}} (which created Canada as a British dominion) and the {{w|Statute of Westminster 1931}} (which made Canada largely self-governing).<br />
* The {{w|Territory of Alaska}} existed between 1912 (previously, it was a US district) and 1959 (when it became a state). The US has owned Alaska since the 1867 {{w|Alaska Purchase}}, but it was not a territory then.<br />
* {{w|Tokyo}} was once called Edo. It was renamed Tokyo (which means "Eastern Capital") when it became the capital in 1868. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Tokyo%2CTokei&year_start=1870&year_end=1880&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CTokyo%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CTokei%3B%2Cc0 Most English books around then] would actually have called it "Tokei", the Chinese reading. The name Tokyo didn't take off until {{w|Hepburn romanization}} was popularized in the 1880s.<br />
| 330 - 1928 (from 1)<br />
1299 - 1922 (from 19 in the Neither Division)<br />
(from 24 in the Neither Division)<br />
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* No: 1867-<br />
* Yes: 1868+<br />
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* No: 330 - 1867 (Go to 3)<br />
* Yes: 1868 - 1928 (Go to 11)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Holy Roman Empire Branch<br />
|-<br />
! 3<br />
| '''The Holy Roman Empire?'''<br />
| The predecessor to modern Germany, the {{w|Holy Roman Empire}} was a union of hundreds of small states in Central Europe. Nationalism and the concept of the {{w|nation state}} hadn't taken off yet, so countries as we know them didn't really exist. There were just small lands, often with keenly contested borders, owned by minor aristocracy who pledged allegiance to one of the big powers. The HRE was dissolved in 1806 after it was invaded by Napoleon, arguably the first leader to realise the potential of making a nation salute a flag.<br />
| 330 - 1867<br />
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* Yes: 899 - 1806<br />
* No: 899- or 1806+<br />
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* Yes: 899 - 1806 (Stated in comic as "1805 or earlier", since modern map-making was fuzzy as a concept prior) ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: 330 - 899 or 1806-67 (Go to 4)<br />
|-<br />
! 4<br />
| '''The United States?'''<br />
| The original 13 colonies declared independence in 1776. A map that does not include ''either'' the HRE ''or'' the USA must be older than the HRE which would put the map some time prior to 1000 AD, when there really were no countries, and English wasn't used yet, hence Randall's comment.<br />
| 330 - 899 or 1806-67<br />
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* No: 1776-<br />
* Yes: 1776+<br />
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* No: 330 - 899 (Not stated in comic, since a map in this period is probably not in English, which violates a proviso of the comic) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1806-67 (Go to 5)<br />
|-<br />
! 5<br />
| '''Texas is...<br/>Part of Mexico?<br/>Independent?<br/>Part of the US?'''<br />
| Mexico occupied the area modern day Texas from around 1718 ({{w|Spanish Texas|when the first permanent Spanish settlements were founded}}) to the {{w|Texas Declaration of Independence}} in 1836 (the comic apparently cited 1834 as the date) - the land called "Texas" was only a small part of the modern day state. The {{w|Republic of Texas}} only lasted a decade, and joined the US in 1846.<br />
| 1806-67<br />
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* Part of Mexico: 1718 - 1836<br />
* Independent: 1836-46<br />
* Part of the US: 1846+<br />
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* Part of Mexico: 1806-36 (Go to 6)<br />
* Independent: 1836-46 (stated in comic as 1834-45 - a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Part of the US: 1846-67 (Go to 9)<br />
|-<br />
! 6<br />
| '''Florida is part of...<br/>Spain?<br/>The US?'''<br />
| Spain occupied {{w|Florida}} (as East Florida and West Florida) but frankly they didn't actually want it - it was expensive to send people to settle it, and there wasn't much economic value in it. So they gave it to the US for free in the 1819 {{w|Adams–Onís Treaty}} (which took effect in 1821) in exchange for the US giving up parts of Mexico and paying off angry Spanish settlers. (For some reason, the comic treats Florida as part of the US in 1818; see questions 7 and 8.)<br />
| 1806-36<br />
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* Spain: 1565 - 1763 or 1783 - 1821<br />
* The US: 1821+<br />
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* Spain: 1806-21 (Go to 7)<br />
* The US: 1821-36 (Go to 8)<br />
|-<br />
! 7<br />
| '''{{w|Paraguay}}?'''<br />
| Declared independence from Spain in 1811 (although it might appear on older maps as the Spanish Province of Paraguay).<br />
| 1806-21<br />
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* No: 1811-<br />
* Yes: 1811+<br />
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* No: 1806-11 (stated in comic as 1806-10) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1811-21 (stated in comic as 1811-17 - a discrepancy (see question 6)) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 8<br />
| '''{{w|Venezuela}} and/or {{w|Ecuador?}}'''<br />
| Both declared independence from {{w|Gran Colombia}} (Greater Colombia) in 1830.<br />
| 1821-36<br />
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* No: 1830-<br />
* Yes: 1830+<br />
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* No: 1821-30 (stated in comic as 1818-29 - a discrepancy (see question 6)) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1830-36 (stated in comic as 1830-33 - a discrepancy (see question 5)) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 9<br />
| '''Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?'''<br />
| The 1858 {{w|Treaty of Aigun}} brought the Russian border to the Sea of Japan.<br />
| 1846-67<br />
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* No: 1858-<br />
* Yes: 1858+<br />
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* No: 1846-58 (Go to 10)<br />
* Yes: 1858-67 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 10<br />
| '''The US's southern border looks...'''<br />
| The last southward expansion of the US is the 1854 {{w|Gadsden Purchase}}, where the US bought a chunk of what is now Arizona and New Mexico so they could build a railway that avoided unfavourable terrain. The southern border looks "weird" before that because we are accustomed to the current border shape.<br />
| 1846-58<br />
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* Weird: 1854-<br />
* Normal: 1854+<br />
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* Weird: 1846-54 (stated in comic as 1846-53) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Normal: 1854-58 (stated in comic as 1854-56 - a discrepancy (where is 1857?)) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | South Africa Branch<br />
|-<br />
! 11<br />
| '''{{w|South Africa}}?'''<br />
| The Union of South Africa was created in 1910, although South Africa was then not yet fully independent from the United Kingdom (which would not happen until 1931).<br />
| 1868 - 1928<br />
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* No: 1910-<br />
* Yes: 1910+<br />
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* No: 1868 - 1910 (Go to 12)<br />
* Yes: 1910-28 (Go to 16)<br />
|-<br />
! 12<br />
| '''Rhodesia?'''<br />
| The region was named {{w|Rhodesia_(region)|"Rhodesia"}} by the British South Africa Company in 1895. An {{w|Rhodesia|unrecognised state}} (1965-79) and a {{w|Southern_Rhodesia|colony}} (1923-80 on-and-off) also born this name, but they are both outside the Prior Date Range.<br />
| 1868 - 1910<br />
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* No: 1895-<br />
* Yes: 1895+<br />
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* No: 1868-95 (Go to 13)<br />
* Yes: 1895 - 1910 (Go to 15)<br />
|-<br />
! 13<br />
| '''Is Bolivia landlocked?'''<br />
| {{w|Bolivia}} lost its coastal territory to Chile in the {{w|War of the Pacific}}, ceding Antofagasta in the {{w|Treaty of Valparaiso}} in 1884.<br />
| 1868-95<br />
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* No: 1825-84<br />
* Yes: 1884+<br />
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* No: 1868-84 (Go to 14)<br />
* Yes: 1884-95 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 14<br />
| '''"Buda" and "Pest" or "Budapest"?'''<br />
| In 1873, the cities of {{w|Buda}} and {{w|Pest,_Hungary|Pest}} joined together to form the city of {{w|Budapest}}.<br />
| 1868-84<br />
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* Buda and Pest: 1247 - 1873<br />
* Budapest: 1873+<br />
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* Buda and Pest: 1868-73 (stated in comic as 1868-72) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Budapest: 1873-84 (stated in comic as 1873-83) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 15<br />
| '''Is Norway part of Sweden?'''<br />
| {{w|Norway}} was ceded to Sweden in 1814, from which it separated in 1905.<br />
| 1895 - 1910<br />
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* Yes: 1814 - 1905<br />
* No: 1814- or 1905+<br />
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* Yes: 1895-1905 (Stated in comic as 1896-1905) ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: 1905-10 (Stated in comic as 1906-09) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 16<br />
| '''Austria-Hungary?'''<br />
| {{w|Austria-Hungary}} formed in 1867 and dissolved in 1918.<br />
| 1910-28<br />
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* Yes: 1867-1918<br />
* No: 1918+<br />
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* Yes: 1910-18 (Go to 17)<br />
* No: 1918-28 (Go to 18)<br />
|-<br />
! 17<br />
| '''Albania?'''<br />
| {{w|Albania}} declared independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1912.<br />
| 1910-18 <br />
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* No: 1912-<br />
* Yes: 1912+<br />
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* No: 1910-12 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1912-18 (stated in comic as 1913-18) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 18<br />
| '''Leningrad?'''<br />
| {{w|Saint Petersburg}} was known as Leningrad between 1924 and 1991. The city was founded in 1703 as Saint Petersburg (specific spellings vary); in August 1914, due to major anti-German sentiment related to WWI, it was renamed Petrograd (essentially the Russian translation of Petersburg). On January 26, 1924, five days after the death of Vladimir Lenin (the main revolutionary leader), the new Communist government (hostile to both the the Orthodox Saint the city was named after and the Czar Peter the Great who named it) renamed the city Leningrad in his honor. After the decline of the Soviet government in 1991, the name became unpopular, and a referendum in June 1991 (concurrently with the first Russian presidential election) restored the name Saint-Petersburg for the city (officially in September 1991), which it holds to this day.<br />
| 1918-28<br />
|<br />
* No: 1924- or 1991+<br />
* Yes: 1924-91<br />
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* No: 1918-24 (stated in comic as 1919-23) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1924-28 (stated in comic as 1924-29) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Neither Division<br />
|-<br />
! 19<br />
| '''Does the Ottoman Empire exist?'''<br />
| The {{w|Ottoman Empire}} was founded in 1299, and defeated and dissolved on November 1, 1922 when the sultanate was abolished.<br />
| Inconclusive<br />
| <br />
* Yes: 1299-1922<br />
* No: 1299- or 1922+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1299-1922 (Go to 2 in the Constantinople Division)<br />
* No: 1299- or 1922+ (Go to 20)<br />
|-<br />
! 20<br />
| '''The Soviet Union?'''<br />
| The {{w|Soviet Union}} is one of the largest countries ever to exist consisting of Russia and large portions of eastern Europe and central Asia. It was a major political force from December 28, 1922, when several allied Soviet republics united, to 1991, when it broke up.<br />
''Note:'' This question is the same as question 52 in the Istanbul Division, but because there a Prior Date Range of 1928+ has already been established by the presence of Istanbul, we need one more question to determine whether we are within the range of 1928+.<br />
| 1299- or 1922+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1922-91<br />
* No: 1922- or 1991+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1922-91 (Go to 21)<br />
* No: 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) or 1991+ (Go to 22)<br />
|-<br />
! 21<br />
| '''Saudi Arabia?'''<br />
| The kingdom of {{w|Saudi Arabia}} was founded in 1932. It is the first modern state to exert control over the area it claims, which previously were controlled by various tribal leaders. Most maps before 1932 will not mark the area as belonging to a nation at all, will attempt to mark the various shifting chieftains, or will attribute the land to the ottoman empire, which claimed the land but did not effectively control it.<br />
| 1922-91<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1932+<br />
* No: 1932-<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1932-91 (Go to 53 in the Istanbul Division)<br />
* No: 1922-32 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 22<br />
| '''North Korea?'''<br />
| The Korean Peninsula was divided into two regions, the north of which would be known as {{w|North Korea}}, at the end of World War II in 1945.<br />
| 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) or 1991+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1945+<br />
* No: 1945-<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1991+ (Go to 69 in the Istanbul Division)<br />
* No: 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) (Go to 23)<br />
|-<br />
! 23<br />
| '''Saint Trimble's Island'''<br />
| Since [[Randall]] just made up this place, it is impossible that a map would include it.<br />
| 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28)<br />
|<br />
* No: inconclusive<br />
* Yes: impossible<br />
|<br />
* No: 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28) (Go to 24)<br />
* Yes: impossible ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 24<br />
| '''Is Jan Mayen part of the kingdom of Norway?'''<br />
| Jurisdiction over the island of {{w|Jan Mayen}} was given to Norway around 1920, and it officially joined in 1930.<br/><br/>'''Note:''' Strictly speaking, it should be almost impossible to answer "Yes" to this question - the Ottoman Empire existed until 1922, the Soviet Union existed from 1922 to 1991, and North Korea from 1945 onwards, so by answering "No" to the previous three questions, the user has ruled out the entire period during which Norway has officially owned Jan Mayen, and almost the entire period it controlled it bar an extremely slim sliver of time between November 1, 1922 to December 28, 1922. The following questions ignore the previous ones (East Germany only existed at the same time as the USSR, and Pakistan was founded later than North Korea, so both should have already been excluded) - essentially, the Jan Mayen question reboots the test.<br />
| 1299- or 1922 (November 1 - December 28)<br />
|<br />
* Not yet: prior to 1930<br />
* What?: Not a political map<br />
* Yes: 1930+<br />
|<br />
* Not yet: (Go to 2 in the Constantinople Division)<br />
* What?: (Go to 25)<br />
* Yes: (Go to 54 in the Istanbul Division)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Not a Political Map Branch<br />
|-<br />
! 26<br />
| '''Can you see the familiar continents?'''<br />
| At this point it is clear that the map in question is not a political map from any time. Therefore the comic tries to determine whether it is a map of the Earth at all by asking if the continents are there.<br />
|<br />
|<br />
* Yes: map of the Earth<br />
* No: not a map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: map of the Earth (Go to 27)<br />
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 33)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Topographical Map / Satellite Image Subbranch<br />
|-<br />
! 27<br />
| '''This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.'''<br />
| A map of the Earth that does not label political regions must be a topological map; or, it can be a satellite image of the Earth.<br />
| Map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes, that's it: topographical map or satellite image of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes, that's it: topographical map or satellite image of the Earth (Go to 28)<br />
|-<br />
! 28<br />
| '''Is Lake Chad missing?'''<br />
| {{w|Lake Chad}} lost 3/4 of its area in the 1970s, becoming too small to be included in a map or picture of the Earth.<br />
| Topographical map or satellite image of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* No: 1970s-<br />
* Yes: 1970s+<br />
|<br />
* No: 1970s- (Go to 29)<br />
* Yes: 1970s+ (Go to 32)<br />
|-<br />
! 29<br />
| '''How far east do the American prairies reach?'''<br />
| As settlers made their way west, the prairie land in the {{w|Great Plains}} region was steadily replaced by farmland and ranches. By the 1920s, most of the land had been converted to agricultural use, and the last of the prairie was largely obliterated by the {{w|Dust Bowl}}s in the 1930s. The dividing lines correspond roughly to the three types of prairie: {{w|tallgrass prairie}} grew between the Mississippi and Indiana, {{w|mixed grass prairie}} covered Nebraska and other states on the {{w|100th meridian west}}, and {{w|shortgrass prairie}} covered the remaining area east of the Rocky Mountains. There's some overlap in the dates, since it's fairly arbitrary at what you point you say the prairies stopped existing. There are still patches of prairie (covering about 1% of their former reach), but these are probably not visible in a satellite image.<br />
<br />
| 1970s-<br />
|<br />
* Indiana: Before 1830<br />
* The Mississippi: 1830 - 1880s<br />
* Nebraska: 1860s - 1910s<br />
* What prairies?: 1920s+<br />
|<br />
* Indiana: Before 1830 ('''Stop''')<br />
* The Mississippi: 1830 - 80s ('''Stop''')<br />
* Nebraska: 1860s - 1910s (Go to 30)<br />
* What prairies?: 1920s - 1970s (Go to 31)<br />
|-<br />
! 30<br />
| '''Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)'''<br />
| This is {{w|Salton Sea}}, a previously dry lake bed accidentally flooded in 1905 while attempting to increase irrigation to the area from the Colorado River<br />
| 1860s - 1910s<br />
|<br />
* No: before 1905<br />
* Yes: 1905+<br />
|<br />
* No: 1860s - 1900s ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1910s ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 31<br />
| '''Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)'''<br />
| {{w|Lake Volta}}, formed by the {{w|Akosombo Dam}} which was built in the 1960s<br />
| 1920s - 1970s<br />
|<br />
* No: before 1960s<br />
* Yes: 1960s+<br />
|<br />
* No: 1920s - 50s ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1960s - 70s ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 32<br />
| '''Is the Aral Sea missing?'''<br />
| Shrinking since the 1930s, the {{w|Aral Sea}} would be too small to be on maps or images of the Earth by the 2000s.<br />
| 1970s+<br />
|<br />
* No: 1990s-<br />
* Yes: 2000s+<br />
|<br />
* No: 1970s-90s ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 2000s+ ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | ''Topograpical Map / Satellite Image Subbranch ends''<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Fictional Map / Non-Map Subbranch<br />
|-<br />
! 33<br />
| '''Rivers "Sirion" or "Anduin"?'''<br />
| The rivers {{w|List_of_Middle-earth_rivers#Sirion|Sirion}} and {{w|Anduin}} are part of {{w|Middle-earth|Middle-earth}}, the fictional setting of J.R.R. Tolkien's ''Lord of the Rings'' books.<br />
| Not a map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: map of Middle-earth<br />
* No: inconclusive<br />
|<br />
* Yes: map of Middle-earth (Go to 34)<br />
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 38)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Middle-earth Subbranch<br />
|-<br />
! 34<br />
| '''Mordor?'''<br />
| {{w|Mordor}} is the base of operations of {{w|Sauron}}, who settled there c. 1000 in the {{w|Second Age}} (which lasted for 3,441 years).<br />
| Map of Middle-earth<br />
|<br />
* No: S.A. c. 1000-<br />
* Yes: S.A. c. 1000+<br />
|<br />
* No: S.A. c. 1000- (Go to 35)<br />
* Yes: S.A. c. 1000+ (Go to 36)<br />
|-<br />
! 35<br />
| '''Beleriand?'''<br />
| {{w|Beleriand}} was broken in the {{w|War of Wrath}} in the year 583 in the {{w|Years of the Sun}} in the {{w|First Age}} The First Age itself ran for 450 Valian Years and 590 Years of the Sun, adding up to between 5,023 and 65,390 Years of the Sun, depending on the conversion factor used ({{w|J. R. R. Tolkien}} has given several during the years). Note that Randall has apparently ignored the time before the First Age (4,550 Valian Years).<br />
| S.A. c. 1000-<br />
|<br />
* Yes: Y.S. 583 First Age-<br />
* No: Y.S. 583 First Age+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: Y.S. 583 First Age- (stated in comic as First Age) ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: Y.S. 583 First Age - S.A. c. 1000 (stated in comic as early Second Age) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 36<br />
| '''Númenor?'''<br />
| The island of {{w|Númenor}} was raised from the sea at the start of the Second Age. It sank back into the sea in 3319 in the Second Age, as the formerly flat Earth was made into a globe.<br />
| S.A. c. 1000+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: S.A. 1 - 3319<br />
* No: First Age- or S.A. 3319+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: S.A. c. 1000 - 3319 (stated in comic as late Second Age) ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: S.A. 3319+ (Go to 37)<br />
|-<br />
! 37<br />
| '''The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...'''<br />
| The forest {{w|Mirkwood}} was called Greenwood the Great from its discovery by the Elves c. V.Y. 4620 in the First Age to 1050 in the {{w|Third Age}} when the shadow of Sauron fell upon it and it was renamed. It was cleansed on 'March' 28, 3019 in the Third Age (which ran for 3,021 years), after which it is called the Wood of Greenleaves. Note that Randall ignores the Fifth Age and onwards; although Tolkien said that the present day is about the end of the Sixth Age or the beginning of the Seventh, nothing is written about these later Ages.<br />
| S.A. 3319+<br />
|<br />
* Greenwood the Great: c. V.Y. 4620 - T.A. 1050<br />
* Mirkwood: T.A. 1050 - 3019-03-28<br />
* The Wood of Greenleaves: T.A. 3019-03-28+<br />
|<br />
* Greenwood the Great: S.A. 3319 - T.A. 1050 (stated in comic as early Third Age) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Mirkwood: T.A. 1050 - 3019-03-28 (stated in comic as Late Third Age) ('''Stop''')<br />
* The Wood of Greenleaves: T.A. 3019-03-28+ (stated in comic as Fourth Age) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | ''Middle-earth Subbranch ends''<br />
|-<br />
! 38<br />
| '''Cair Paravel?'''<br />
| {{w|Cair Paravel}} is the fictional castle where the Kings and Queens of Narnia rule in ''{{w|The Chronicles of Narnia}}''.<br />
| Not a map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: map of Narnia<br />
* No: inconclusive<br />
|<br />
* Yes: map of Narnia (Go to 39)<br />
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 43)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Narnia Subbranch<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="6" | '''Note:''' This series contains seven books, whose original publication order does not match their chronological order. Specifically, ''The Magician's Nephew'' is earlier than ''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'', and ''The Horse and His Boy'' is between ''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'' and ''Prince Caspian''. Questions in this subbranch concern whether the place referenced can be found in the map contained in each book, not in which books' time the place exists. Therefore, places that exist in a book published later but is chronologically earlier than another book will not appear in the latter book, even if canonically they still exist in its time. Here are the seven books in their original publication order, which they will be referred to as.<br />
<br />
# ''{{w|The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe}}''<br />
# ''{{w|Prince Caspian}}''<br />
# ''{{w|The Voyage of the Dawn Treader}}''<br />
# ''{{w|The Silver Chair}}''<br />
# ''{{w|The Horse and His Boy}}''<br />
# ''{{w|The Magician's Nephew}}''<br />
# ''{{w|The Last Battle}}''<br />
|-<br />
! 39<br />
| '''Calormen?'''<br />
| {{w|Calormen}} is a foreign empire in ''The Chronicles of Narnia''. While it was indirectly referenced in the first three books, it was not included in maps until the later books in the series.<br />
| Map of Narnia<br />
|<br />
* No: 3-<br />
* Yes: 4+<br />
|<br />
* No: 3- (Go to 40)<br />
* Yes: 4+ (Go to 42)<br />
|-<br />
! 40<br />
| '''Lotta islands?'''<br />
| Refers to [http://www.charliewstarr.com/_Media/mapdawntreader.gif this map] from ''The Voyage of the Dawn Treader'', which focused on a ship voyage from Cair Paravel to the eastern edge of the world and back.<br />
| 3-<br />
|<br />
* No: not 3<br />
* Yes: 3<br />
|<br />
* No: 2- (Go to 41)<br />
* Yes: 3 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 41<br />
| '''Beruna'''<br />
| Refers to [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-54_2TDRUbHY/TpJHzFBzmiI/AAAAAAAALOA/q3RnPSvfdJ0/s1600/IMG.jpg the map] of Narnia originally published in Prince Caspian. During the time of ''The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe'', the people of Beruna crossed the Great River via a ford, but it had been replaced by a bridge at the beginning of ''Prince Caspian''.<br />
| 2-<br />
|<br />
* Ford: 1<br />
* Bridge: 2<br />
|<br />
* Ford: 1 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Bridge: 2 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 42<br />
| '''Weird recursive heaven?'''<br />
| Refers to ''The Last Battle'', where the protagonists find themselves in {{w|Aslan's Country}}, a glorious afterlife of which Narnia (along with Earth and presumably every other world) is only a shadowy reflection.<br />
| 4+<br />
|<br />
* No: 6-<br />
* Yes: 7<br />
|<br />
* No: 4 - 6 (stated in comic as one of the random later books) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 7 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | ''Narnia Subbranch ends''<br />
|-<br />
! 43<br />
| '''Mossflower?'''<br />
| A forest from the ''{{w|Redwall}}'' book series.<br />
| Not a map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: ''Redwall''<br />
* No: inconclusive<br />
|<br />
* Yes: ''Redwall'' ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 44)<br />
|-<br />
! 44<br />
| '''Is the world on the back of a turtle?'''<br />
| The comic fantasy book series ''{{w|Discworld}}'' is set on the fictional Discworld, a flat disc balanced on the backs of four elephants which in turn stand on the back of a giant turtle.<br />
| Not a map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: ''Discworld''<br />
* No: inconclusive<br />
|<br />
* Yes: ''Discworld'' ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: not a map of the Earth (Go to 45)<br />
|-<br />
! 45<br />
| '''Are you ''sure'' this is a map?'''<br />
| After incorrectly guessing several popular fictional world, it is fair to doubt whether the subject being identified here is a map at all.<br />
| Not a map of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: a map ''for sure'', just not of the Earth<br />
* No: not a map<br />
|<br />
* Yes: a map ''for sure'', just not of the Earth (Go to 46)<br />
* No: not a map (Go to 48)<br />
|-<br />
! 46<br />
| '''Did you make it yourself?'''<br />
| At this point, the map can only be a homemade map of some other fictional world.<br />
| A map ''for sure'', just not of the Earth<br />
|<br />
* Yes: a homemade map<br />
|<br />
* Yes: a homemade map (Go to 47)<br />
|-<br />
! 47<br />
| '''It's very nice.'''<br />
| A stock response to "[It's] Very nice" is "Thanks, I made it myself". Since we have already done the "made it myself" part, we need to do the other parts too, albeit out of sequence.<br />
| A homemade map<br />
|<br />
* Thank you!: something "very nice"<br />
|<br />
* Thank you!: a "very nice" homemade map ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Not a Map Subbranch<br />
|-<br />
! 48<br />
| '''Is it trying to bite you?'''<br />
| Now we are trying to guess something that is not a map. Makes sense to ask if it's something that bites, right? Right?<br />
| Not a map<br />
|<br />
* No: doesn't bite<br />
* Yes: bites<br />
|<br />
* No: doesn't bite and not a map (Go to 49)<br />
* Yes: bites (Go to 50)<br />
|-<br />
! 49<br />
| '''Is it larger than a breadbox?'''<br />
| The most common reference to breadboxes is the phrase "Is it bigger than a breadbox?" when trying to guess what some surprise object may be in the game {{w|Twenty_Questions|Twenty Questions}}. However, instead of asking further questions to narrow down the choices, the comic just gives a guess for each response. The comic guesses a breadbox itself as something about the same size as a breadbox. <br />
| Doesn't bite and not a map<br />
|<br />
* Yes: larger than a breadbox<br />
* No: smaller than a breadbox<br />
* About the same: about the same size as a breadbox<br />
|<br />
* Yes: larger than a breadbox, doesn't bite, and not a map (comic guesses a tuba) ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: smaller than a breadbox, doesn't bite, and not a map (comic guesses a stapler) ('''Stop''')<br />
* About the same: about the same size as a breadbox, doesn't bite, and not a map (comic guesses a breadbox) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 50<br />
| '''If you let it go, what does it do?'''<br />
|<br />
| Bites<br />
|<br />
* Hisses and runs away: hisses and runs away if let go<br />
* Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go<br />
|<br />
* Hisses and runs away: bites, and hisses and runs away if let go (comic guesses a cat) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things: bites, and screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go (comic guesses a seagull) ('''Stop''' (however, see 51))<br />
|-<br />
! 51<br />
| '''Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death?'''<br />
| ''Note: Title text question.''<br />
| Bites, and screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go<br />
|<br />
* Yes: Screeching chills your blood and heralds death<br />
* No: Screeching does not chill your blood and herald death; or does not screech<br />
|<br />
* Yes: bites; screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go; screeching chills your blood and heralds death (title text guesses a banshee) ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: bites; screeches and flaps around the room breaking things if let go; screeching does not chill your blood and herald death (title text guesses a seagull) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Istanbul Division<br />
|-<br />
! 52<br />
| '''Does the Soviet Union exist?'''<br />
| The Soviet Union, officially the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, existed from 1922 - 1991. After 1991, the Soviet Union split up into Russia and 15 other post-Soviet states.<br />
|1928+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1928 - 1991 <br />
* No: 1991+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1928 - 1991 (Go to 53)<br />
* No: 1991+ (Go to 70)<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | West Africa branch<br />
|-<br />
! 53<br />
| '''Is most of West Africa a giant French blob?'''<br />
| Before 1960, most of West Africa consisted of a number of French colonies united under {{w|French_West_Africa|French West Africa}}.<br />
|1928 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1928 - 1960 <br />
* No: 1960 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1928 - 1960 (Go to 54)<br />
* No: 1960 - 1991 (Go to 61)<br />
|-<br />
! 54<br />
| '''Pakistan?'''<br />
| Pakistan was officially recognized as its own country in 1947, when British India was granted independence and partitioned into two nations. Pakistan was created at the request of Muslims who wished for a Muslim majority state.<br />
|1928 - 1960<br />
|<br />
* No: 1928 - 1947<br />
* Yes: 1947 - 1960 <br />
|<br />
* No: 1928 - 1947 (Go to 55)<br />
* Yes: 1948 - 1960 (Go to 57)<br />
|-<br />
! 55<br />
| '''How many Germanys are there?'''<br />
| During WWII, the Nazi Party invaded a large swath of Europe, which would make Nazi Germany huge on the map during that period. After the war, it split up into two countries — West Germany which was part of NATO, and East Germany which was part of the Warsaw Pact. Note that by modern standards, pre-WWII Germany was also quite huge, since at that point Germany included {{w|Prussia}} which contained much of modern Poland as well as Russian {{w|Kaliningrad}}, and in 1938 Germany took control of Austria in the {{w|Anschluss}} and the {{w|Sudetenland}} in {{w|Czechoslovakia}} following the {{w|Munich Agreement}}. Not all maps produced during WWII used the Nazi borders, since the Allies refused to recognize German occupation and supported the {{w|government-in-exile|governments-in-exile}}.<br />
|1928 - 1947 <br />
|<br />
* One: 1928 - 1940 <br />
* One, but it's ''huge'': 1941 - 1945<br />
* Two: 1946 - 1947<br />
|<br />
* One: 1928 - 1940 (Go to 56) <br />
* One, but it's ''huge'': 1941 - 1945 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Two: 1946 - 1947 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 56<br />
| '''Persia or Iran?'''<br />
| In 1935 the Iranian Government requested that westerners call it by the name its own people had used for hundreds of years, rather than after a tribe within it that gained prominence 2500 years earlier. The interval from 1928 - 1930 is dropped from this branch, but it would fall under Persia.<br />
|1928 - 1940 <br />
|<br />
* Persia: 1930 - 1934<br />
* Iran: 1935 - 1940<br />
|<br />
* Persia: 1930 - 1934 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Iran: 1935 - 1940 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 57<br />
| '''Cambodia?'''<br />
| Cambodia (or Kampuchea) declared independence from France in 1953.<br />
|1948 - 1960 <br />
|<br />
* No: 1948 - 1953<br />
* Yes: 1953 - 1960<br />
|<br />
* No: 1948 - 1953 (Go to 58)<br />
* Yes: 1953 - 1960 (Go to 60)<br />
|-<br />
! 58<br />
| '''Eritrea is a part of...'''<br />
| Eritrea declared independence from Italy in 1952, joining Ethiopia to create the {{w|Federation of Ethiopia and Eritrea}}.<br />
|1947 - 1953<br />
|<br />
* Italy: 1948 - 1952<br />
* Ethiopia: 1952 - 1953<br />
|<br />
* Italy: 1948 - 1952 (Go to 59)<br />
* Ethiopia: 1952 - 1953 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 59<br />
| '''Canada is...'''<br />
| In 1949, the {{w|Dominion of Newfoundland}} became a part of Canada. Before that, it was marked as its own region on the map, so maps from 1948 and before would have Canada "missing a piece" on its east coast as compared to how it looks today.<br />
|1947 - 1952 <br />
|<br />
* Missing a piece: 1948<br />
* Fine: 1949 - 1952<br />
|<br />
* Missing a piece: 1948 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Fine: 1949 - 1952 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 60<br />
| '''The United Arab Republic?'''<br />
| The {{w|The United Arab Republic}} was a short-lived political union between Egypt and Syria. The union began in 1958 and existed until 1961.<br />
This had been forgotten (and two placed had been pointed wrong)<br />
|1953 - 1960<br />
|<br />
* No: 1953-1958<br />
* Yes: 1958-1960<br />
|<br />
* No: 1953-58 (stated in comic as 1954-57 - a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 1958-60 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 61<br />
| '''How many Vietnams are there?'''<br />
| On April 30, 1975, forces from North Vietnam captured Saigon, and reunified the country, in an event known as {{w|Reunification Day}}, which marked the end of the Vietnam War. Maps before this date would have "North Vietnam" and "South Vietnam" on them rather than a single "Vietnam".<br />
|1960 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Two: 1960 - 1975<br />
* One: 1975 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Two: 1960 - 1975 (Go to 62)<br />
* One: 1975 - 1991 (Go to 65)<br />
|-<br />
! 62<br />
| '''Bangladesh?'''<br />
| Bangladesh declared independence from Pakistan in 1972, as they had different languages, cultures, and the Bengalis felt their country was being run from 'West Pakistan' without their input. The resulting war lasted just over 8 months and ended in Indian intervention. <br />
|1960 - 1975<br />
|<br />
* No: 1960 - 1972<br />
* Yes: 1972 - 1975<br />
|<br />
* No: 1960 - 1972 (Go to 63)<br />
* Yes: 1972 - 1975 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 63<br />
| '''Is the area south of Lake Victoria...'''<br />
| The area south of {{w|Lake Victoria}} was called {{w|Tanganyika}}, and it declared independence from Britain to form its own country in 1961, and unified with {{w|Zanzibar}} to create {{w|Tanzania}} in 1964.<br />
|1960 - 1972 <br />
|<br />
* British: 1960 - 1961<br />
* Tanganyika: 1961 - 1964<br />
* Tanzania: 1965 - 1971<br />
|<br />
* British: 1960 - 1961 (Go to 64)<br />
* Tanganyika: 1961 - 1964 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Tanzania: 1965 - 1972 (stated in comic as 1964-1971 - a discrepancy) ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 64<br />
| '''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is... '''<br />
| {{w|Interstate 25 in New Mexico|I-25}} didn't exist for any of the years listed for this item, since the Interstate Highway System wasn't launched until 1956. The highway designation on maps printed during the years listed was {{w|U.S._Route_85#New_Mexico|U.S. 85}}, and it was first replaced by the I-25 in 1970-1990. The town changed it name from Hot Springs to "{{w|Truth or Consequences, New Mexico|Truth or Consequences}}" in 1950, although locals say that it provides more of the latter than of the former. Still the question would have made sense (although it should have been US 85) had it not been for the fact that the whole question is for the wrong time period, as the search tree leading to a British Tanganyika is only the period from 1960-1961. Actually this item seems like it should actually follow from the "Fine" option of "Canada is.." from 1949-1952 as it is in the same time period.<br />
|1960 - 1961<br />
|<br />
* Hot Springs: 1916-49<br />
* Truth or Consequences: 1950+<br />
|<br />
* Hot Springs: 1948-49 ('''Stop''') (a discrepancy as this is for a period from 1960-61)<br />
* Truth or Consequences: 1950-52 ('''Stop''') (a discrepancy as this is for a period from 1960-61)<br />
|-<br />
! 65<br />
| '''Jimmy Carter is...'''<br />
| On April 20, 1979, Jimmy Carter was "{{w|Jimmy Carter rabbit incident|attacked}}" by a swamp rabbit, a fact referenced in [[204|204: America]]. This fact would not normally be referenced on a map, however, and is simply a joke entry that leads to the next question.<br />
|1975 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: April 20, 1979<br />
* Fine: 1975 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit: April 20, 1979 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Fine: 1975 - 1991 (Go to 66)<br />
|-<br />
! 66<br />
| '''The Sinai is part of what country?'''<br />
| In 1979, Israel signed a peace treaty in which it would gradually retreat from the entire Sinai Peninsula, handing that area to Egypt. This happened over a period of three years, completing in 1982.<br />
|1975 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Israel: 1976 - 1979<br />
* Mostly Israel: 1980<br />
* Mostly Egypt: 1981<br />
* Egypt: 1982 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Israel: 1976 - 1979 (missing 1975?) ('''Stop''')<br />
* Mostly Israel: 1980 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Mostly Egypt: 1981 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Egypt: 1982 - 1991 (Go to 67)<br />
|-<br />
! 67<br />
| '''What's the capital of Micronesia?'''<br />
| The {{w| Federated States of Micronesia}} are a group of small islands in the Pacific Ocean. Their capital was Kolonia until 1989, when it changed to Palikir, on the same island.<br />
|1982 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Kolonia: 1982 - 1988<br />
* Palikir: 1989 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Kolonia: 1982 - 1988 (Go to 68)<br />
* Palikir: 1989 - 1991 (Go to 69)<br />
|-<br />
! 68<br />
| '''Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?'''<br />
| Burkina Faso was named the Republic of the Upper Volta until 1984, when the president Thomas Sankara decided to rename it to promote a sense of unity in the nation and in an anti-colonial statement. <br />
|1982 - 1988<br />
|<br />
* Upper Volta: 1982 - 1984<br />
* Burkina Faso: 1985 - 1988<br />
|<br />
* Upper Volta: 1982 - 1984 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Burkina Faso: 1985 - 1988 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 69<br />
| '''(Number of Yemens) + (Number of Germanys) = ?'''<br />
| In 1990, two unification events took place: the {{w| Yemeni unification}} on May 22, and the {{w|German_reunification}} on October 3. Before these events, in early 1990, there would have been four Yemens and Germanys total. In mid-1990, when only the Yemeni unification had taken place, there would be one Yemen and two Germanys, for a total of three. and in late 1990, after both events took place, there would be one of each for a total of two.<br />
|1989 - 1991<br />
|<br />
* Four: 1989 - early 1990<br />
* Three: mid-1990<br />
* Two: late 1990-1991<br />
|<br />
* Four: 1989 - early 1990 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Three: mid-1990 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Two: late 1990-1991 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="6" | Post-Soviet branch<br />
|-<br />
! 70<br />
| '''Zaire? or: "Hong Kong (UK)"''' <br />
| Zaire was one of a series of names for what is today called the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In 1996 a (successful) revolt began to oust the reigning government from power. As part of this revolution, the country was renamed. The original name change away from 'Congo' was part of an 'Africanisation' naming campaign, although 'Congo' is in origin an authentic African name for the river that set the boundaries of the nation. <br />
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{{w|Hong Kong}} was taken by the British in 1843 at the end of the {{w|First Opium War}}, and an additional area (the New Territories) were leased from China in 1898 on a 99-year lease. When the lease expired in 1997, {{w|Transfer of sovereignty over Hong Kong|the whole of Hong Kong was returned to China}}.<br />
|1991+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1992 - 1996<br />
* No: 1996+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 1992 - 1996 ('''Stop''')<br />
* No: 1996+ (Go to 71)<br />
|-<br />
! 71<br />
| '''Serbia and Montenegro are...'''<br />
| Serbia and Montenegro were a remnant of Yugoslavia. Montenegro voted to become its own country in 2006.<br/><br/>'''Note:''' For much of the prior date range, "Serbia and Montenegro" did not appear on maps - the states still went by the name Yugoslavia. {{w|Serbia and Montenegro#State union|Serbia and Montenegro only came into existence in 2003}}.<br />
|1996+<br />
|<br />
* One country: 1996 - 2006<br />
* Two countries: 2007+<br />
|<br />
* One country: 1996 - 2006 (Go to 72)<br />
* Two countries: 2007+ (Go to 73)<br />
|-<br />
! 72<br />
| '''East Timor?'''<br />
| East Timor is a nation north of Australia and south east of Indonesia. During the dutch colonization of Indonesia east Timor remained in Portuguese hands. While occupied and annexed by Indonesia since 1976, east Timor retained its own culture and voted for independence, then had a nasty militia action that required UN peacekeeping action, and finally become independent in 2002.<br />
|1996 - 2006<br />
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* No: 1997 - 2001<br />
* Yes: 2002 - 2006<br />
|<br />
* No: 1997 - 2001 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 2002 - 2006 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 73<br />
| '''How many Sudans are there?'''<br />
| In 2011, after a long history of violence between the two portions of the country (which can be characterized as Islamic vs. Christian and Traditional Religions), South Sudan became independent from its northern neighbor.<br />
|2006+<br />
|<br />
* One: 2007 - 2011<br />
* Two: 2011+<br />
|<br />
* One: 2007 - 2011 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Two: 2011+ (Go to 74)<br />
|-<br />
! 74<br />
| '''Is Crimea disputed?'''<br />
| In 2014, a revolution ousted the current Ukrainian president. Crimea had its own civil unrest, and Russian troops exploited the unrest to launch an invasion. A referendum, where many nations, including all member states of the EU, the USA, and Canada, disputed the democratic legitimacy of the referendum, was held during this and ostensibly decided in favor of Russian annexation. Depending on where you get your maps, Crimea might not be marked as disputed - [http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/12/302337754/google-maps-displays-crimean-border-differently-in-russia-u-s Google Maps Ukraine shows it as solely Ukrainian while Google Maps Russia shows it as Russian].<br />
|2011+<br />
|<br />
* Yes: 2014+<br />
* No: 2012 - 2013<br />
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* Yes: 2014+ (Go to 75)<br />
* No: 2012 - 2013 ('''Stop''')<br />
|-<br />
! 75<br />
| '''"Colorado" or "Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid"?'''<br />
| This entry and the one below it are now referring to hypothetical future events: specifically, a huge radioactivity event in Colorado that takes place some time in 2022. Colorado has a previous history of radioactive contamination - it was home to uranium mines, nuclear tests (including {{w|Project Rulison}}, an attempt to use nuclear bombs to drill for natural gas that ended up making the gas radioactive) and the controversial {{w|Rocky Flats Plant}}, a nuclear weapons manufacturing facility that suffered {{w|Radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant|several fires and leaks}} and was ultimately raided and shut down by the FBI. None of these has yet caused spiders to mutate.{{Citation needed}}<br />
|2014+<br />
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* Colorado: 2014 - 2021<br />
* Danger: 2022+<br />
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* Colorado: 2014 - 2021 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Danger: 2022+ (Go to 76)<br />
|-<br />
! 76<br />
| '''Does the warning mention the spiders?'''<br />
| Presumably some time in 2023, the radioactive exclusion zone also becomes infested with mutant spiders.<br />
|2022+<br />
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* No: 2022<br />
* Yes: 2023 or later<br />
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* No: 2022 ('''Stop''')<br />
* Yes: 2023 or later ('''Stop''')<br />
|}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
:[A very complicated flow chart, which can only be read in detail using the larger image now shown at the top of this page. This transcript uses the large version, where there is no problem reading all entries.]<br />
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:[At the top of the chart there is a large caption, with a smaller caption below:]<br />
:<big>Guide to figuring out the age of an undated world map</big><br />
:<small>(Assuming it's complete, labeled in english, and detailed enough)</small><br />
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:[Below the starting bracket in the small caption is a start box. It has rounded corners and it is gray with white text. From this box there is a gray line to a box consisting of a black frame with rounded corners. In these kind of boxes there are questions regarding the map in black text. Below this box there are three gray boxes like the start box, superimposed over the bottom frame. In these boxes are the possible answers to the question in the frame above. From each of these options there is a gray line going to similar black framed boxes with other questions either below, or to either side. There can either be two, three or four gray boxes, two the most common. Only at the very bottom of the central branch where it turns out it was a home made map, are there two frames with only one gray question box each. This trend continues over this entire large image. When reaching the end of a branch in the flow chart, there is no line away from one, more or all of the gray boxes for a black frame. When this happens a year range or a guess at what the map shows, or what it is (if it turns out to not be a map) is written below the gray box in gray text. Of the text in the gray boxes are Yes/No, but not always. There are 74 boxes with black frames with 158 gray boxes and 78 endpoints with text below the gray box and one end point without text below (the one with the home made map).]<br />
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:Start<br />
::Istanbul or Constantinople?<br />
:::Constantinople<br />
::::<span id="canada-alaska-tokyo"><u>Do any of these exist</u>? </span><br />
::::*Independent Canada<br />
::::*US Territory of Alaska<br />
::::*Tokyo<br />
:::::No<br />
::::::The Holy Roman Empire?<br />
:::::::Yes<br />
::::::::1805 or earlier (before this point, the modern idea of a complete political map of the world gets hard to apply.)<br />
:::::::No<br />
::::::::The United States?<br />
:::::::::No<br />
::::::::::How sure are you that this map is in english?<br />
:::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::Texas is...<br />
:::::::::::Part of Mexico<br />
::::::::::::Florida is part of...<br />
:::::::::::::Spain<br />
::::::::::::::Paraguay?<br />
:::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1806-10</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1811-17</font><br />
:::::::::::::The US<br />
::::::::::::::Venezuela and/or ecuador?<br />
:::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1818-29</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1830-33</font><br />
:::::::::::Independent <font color="gray">1834-45</font><br />
:::::::::::Part of the US<br />
::::::::::::Does Russia border the Sea of Japan?<br />
:::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::The US's southern border looks...<br />
:::::::::::::::Weird <font color="gray">1846-53</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Normal <font color="gray">1854-56</font><br />
:::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1858-67</font><br />
:::::Yes<br />
::::::South Africa?<br />
:::::::No<br />
::::::::Rhodesia?<br />
:::::::::No<br />
::::::::::Is Bolivia landlocked?<br />
:::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::"Buda" and "Pest" or "Budapest"?<br />
:::::::::::::Buda and Pest <font color="gray">1868-72</font><br />
:::::::::::::Budapest <font color="gray">1873-83</font><br />
:::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1884-95</font><br />
:::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::Is Norway part of Sweden?<br />
:::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1896-1905</font><br />
:::::::::::No <font color="gray">1906-09</font><br />
:::::::Yes<br />
::::::::Austria-Hungary?<br />
:::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::Albania?<br />
:::::::::::No <font color="gray">1910-12</font><br />
:::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1913-18</font><br />
:::::::::No<br />
::::::::::Leningrad?<br />
:::::::::::No <font color="gray">1919-23</font><br />
:::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1924-29</font><br />
:::Neither<br />
::::Does the Ottoman Empire exist?<br />
:::::Yes <font color="gray">[[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]</font><br />
:::::No<br />
::::::The Soviet Union?<br />
:::::::Yes<br />
::::::::Saudi Arabia?<br />
:::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::<span id="west-africa-french-blob">Is most of West Africa a giant french blob?</span><br />
:::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::<span id="bangladesh">Bangladesh?</span><br />
:::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::Is the area south of Lake Victoria...<br />
:::::::::::::::British<br />
::::::::::::::::The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...<br />
:::::::::::::::::Hot Springs <font color="gray">1948-49</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::Truth or Consequences <font color="gray">1950-52</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Tanganyika <font color="gray">1961-64</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Tanzania <font color="gray">1965-71</font><br />
:::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1972-75</font><br />
:::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::How many Vietnams are there?<br />
:::::::::::::Two<br />
::::::::::::::[[#bangladesh]]<br />
:::::::::::::One<br />
::::::::::::::Jimmy Carter is...<br />
:::::::::::::::Being attacked by a giant swimming rabbit <font color="gray">April 20, 1979</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Fine<br />
::::::::::::::::The Sinai is part of what country?<br />
:::::::::::::::::Israel <font color="gray">1976-79</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::Mostly Israel <font color="gray">1980</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::Mostly Egypt <font color="gray">1981</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::Egypt<br />
::::::::::::::::::What's the capital of Micronesia?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::Kolonia<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Republic of the Upper Volta or Burkina Faso?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Upper Volta <font color="gray">1982-84</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Burkina Faso <font color="gray">1985-88</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Palikir<br />
::::::::::::::::::::(number of Yemens) + (number of Germanys) = ?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Four <font color="gray">1989-early 1990</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Three <font color="gray">mid-1990</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Two <font color="gray">late 1990-1991</font><br />
:::::::::No <font color="gray">1922-1932</font><br />
:::::::No<br />
::::::::North Korea?<br />
:::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::<span id="zaire">Zaire? or: "Hong Kong (UK)"</span><br />
:::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1992-96</font><br />
:::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::Serbia/Montenegro are...<br />
:::::::::::::One country<br />
::::::::::::::East Timor?<br />
:::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1997-2001</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">2002-06</font><br />
:::::::::::::Two countries<br />
::::::::::::::How many Sudans are there?<br />
:::::::::::::::One <font color="gray">2007-11</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Two<br />
::::::::::::::::Is Crimea disputed?<br />
:::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::"Colorado" or "Danger—Radioactive Exclusion Zone—Avoid"?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::Colorado <font color="gray">2014-21</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Danger<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Does the warning mention the spiders?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">2022</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">2023 or later</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">2012-13</font><br />
:::::::::No<br />
::::::::::Saint Trimble's Island<br />
:::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::Is Jan Mayen part of the Kingdom of Norway?<br />
:::::::::::::Not yet<br />
::::::::::::::[[#canada-alaska-tokyo]]<br />
:::::::::::::What?<br />
::::::::::::::Can you see the familiar continents?<br />
:::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::This sounds like a physical map or satellite photo.<br />
:::::::::::::::::Yes, that's it<br />
::::::::::::::::::Is Lake Chad missing?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::How far east do the American Prairies reach?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Indiana <font color="gray">before 1830</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::The Mississippi <font color="gray">1830s-80s</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Nebraska<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::Is there a big lake in the middle of Southern California? (created by mistake)<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1860s-1900s</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1910s</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::What prairies?<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::Is there a big lake in the middle of Ghana? (created on purpose)<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1920s-50s</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1960s-70s</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Is the Aral Sea missing?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1970s-90s</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">2000s+</font><br />
:::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::Rivers "Sirion" or "Anduin"?<br />
:::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::Mordor?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Beleriand?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">First Age</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">Early Second Age</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Númenor?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">Late Second Age</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::The forest east of the Misty Mountains is...<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Greenwood <font color="gray">Early Third Age</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Mirkwood <font color="gray">Late Third Age</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::The Wood of Greenleaves <font color="gray">Fourth Age</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::Cair Paravel?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Calormen?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::Lotta Islands?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::Beruna<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::Ford <font color="gray">The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::Bridge <font color="gray">Prince Caspian</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">Dawn Treader</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::Weird recursive heaven?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">One of the random later books</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">The Last Battle</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Mossflower?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::Redwall<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::Is the world on the back of a turtle?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">Discworld</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::Are you ''sure'' this is a map?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Did you make it yourself?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::It's very nice.<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Thank you!<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Is it trying to bite you?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Is it larger than a breadbox?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">tuba</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">stapler</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::About the same <font color="gray">breadbox</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::If you let it go, what does it do?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Hisses and runs away <font color="gray">cat</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Screeches and flaps around the room breaking things <font color="gray">seagull</font><br />
:::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::Pakistan?<br />
:::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::How many Germanys are there?<br />
:::::::::::::::::One<br />
::::::::::::::::::Persia or Iran?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::Persia <font color="gray">1930-34</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Iran <font color="gray">1935-40</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::One, but it's ''huge'' <font color="gray">1941-45</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::Two <font color="gray">1946-47</font><br />
:::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::Cambodia?<br />
:::::::::::::::::No<br />
::::::::::::::::::Eritrea is part of...<br />
:::::::::::::::::::Italy<br />
::::::::::::::::::::Canada is...<br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Missing a piece <font color="gray">1948</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::::Fine <font color="gray">1949-52</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Ethiopia <font color="gray">1952-53</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::Yes<br />
::::::::::::::::::The United Arab Republic?<br />
:::::::::::::::::::No <font color="gray">1954-57</font><br />
:::::::::::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">1958-60</font><br />
:::::::::::Yes <font color="gray">No, I made that one up.</font><br />
:::Istanbul<br />
::::Does the Soviet Union exist?<br />
:::::Yes<br />
::::::[[#west-africa-french-blob]]<br />
:::::No<br />
::::::[[#zaire]]<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
*There are some errors and several discrepancies in the comic regarding how year ranges is given.<br />
**The largest error seem to be a real mistake, rather than just not being precise.<br />
***It regards the entry ''The town on I-25 between Albuquerque and El Paso is...'' which gives a year range from 1948-1952, but to get to this entry the previous answer ''British'' fixes the time to 1960-1961. Also the I-25 was built in 1970-1990 through New Mexico, see the [[#Table|table]] above for more info.<br />
**Here other errors or discrepancies can be listed...<br />
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[[Category:Fiction]]</div>162.158.60.53https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1678:_Recent_Searches&diff=119744Talk:1678: Recent Searches2016-05-11T00:13:26Z<p>162.158.60.53: Hardlink Turing machine: plausible</p>
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<div>You can convert jpg to Excel (http://www.think-maths.co.uk/spreadsheet), so converting gif to Excel is not really absurd... {{unsigned ip|141.101.93.51}}<br />
:Or maybe Randall(?) has a screenshot of a spreadsheet (or more realistically, an over-the-shoulder video of someone's spreadsheet), and he wants to OCR it back into a spreadsheet. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.209|108.162.218.209]] 19:19, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Interestingly enough "CPU temperature sensor limits" might be a serious consideration for extreme overclockers, who use things like liquid nitrogen to cool their PC. [[User:SG 01|SG 01]] ([[User talk:SG 01|talk]]) 15:45, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
: Not really, the limit of the CPU temp sensors would only necessary if you are planing to get the cpu to really high temperatures. That is, if you are using liquid nitrogen to cool the cpu, you should never reach the limit of the sensors.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.69|108.162.221.69]] 18:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:: Hey, [[165|our IP addresses differ only in 8 bits]]! Does this mean we are in the same part of campus? --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.59|108.162.219.59]] 19:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::: What... that one is not not my ip! And the guy that mentioned "OCR" up there also has a very similar ip to ours. Is some kind of proxy explainxkcd has? (btw, I wonder if I'll get the same ip on this comment. I haven't disconnected my router or anything) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.69|108.162.221.69]] 21:58, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::: It appears that explainxkcd.com is using Cloudflare, so all the wiki edits are probably logged as coming from Cloudflare's proxies. A WHOIS search confirms that the IPs 108.162.192.0 to 108.162.255.255 are part of Cloudflare's network --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.228.167|108.162.228.167]] 22:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::: I had thought explainxkcd was anonymizing IP addresses to some carefully chosen ranges. Apparently that's just a helpful side effect. Does Cloudflare always assign the same proxy to a particular source address? [[User:.42|.42]] ([[User talk:.42|talk]]) 23:34, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
: Note that it says "limits" in plural, i.e. both upper and lower. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.209|108.162.218.209]] 19:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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This is my first time trying to help out with an explanation, please let me know if I did something wrong ^_^; [[User:Undergroundmonorail|Undergroundmonorail]] ([[User talk:Undergroundmonorail|talk]]) 15:48, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
: I like where you went with safe/dangerous. Of the "unsafe" synonyms I found my favorite is "menacing mode". [[User:Elvenivle|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle|talk]])<br />
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: My first impression here though was that he's so often dropping to safe mode he forgot what's regular system like or how to get there – so he searches for reference how to get there. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.95.129|141.101.95.129]] 20:29, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Is it possible the first one is an attempt to misuse google translate to translate programming code (to another programming language or even between linguistic languages)? [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 15:59, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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GIF to XLS could be a reference to http://www.think-maths.co.uk/spreadsheet [[Special:Contributions/141.101.93.55|141.101.93.55]] 16:16, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
: Nice find. I was thinking like that + a macro to flip sheets. [[User:Elvenivle|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle|talk]])<br />
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Doesn't "recursive" mean that it repeats (recurs)? [[User:Cardboardmech|Cardboardmech]] ([[User talk:Cardboardmech|talk]]) 16:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Sort of. In computing, it's a little more specific, though, referring to functions that call themselves as part of their normal running. This in turn has led to the idea of recursive definitions, that of course refer to the original word. Example: "recursion: see recursion."<br />
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:I take issue with the explanation for another reason, though. True, regexes probably can't be used to check the validity of EBNFs. It's a little bit more complicated than that, though. If one has ever used a compiler-compiler like yacc (which, supposedly uses EBNF grammars or EBNF-like grammars), another tool in the Unix world comes to mind, awk. Awk is similar enough in design to a cc that it can do the job of one, and people have apparently made compilers in awk. And what does awk use for its pattern matching? Regexes. Exercise for the reader: Write an EBNF for EBNFs. :D. [[User:Tibfulv|Tibfulv]] ([[User talk:Tibfulv|talk]]) 17:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: If you allow recursive regexes, it *is* possible to match EBNF with a regex: http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115494&p=3974658#p3974278 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.68.5|162.158.68.5]] 19:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Silly comment because: can't...stop...laughing. [[User:Elvenivle|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle|talk]])<br />
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Hey... what does this line refer to? "A complication in attempting to solve computer problems this way would be presented by Google's search term autocorrection, which for several years has replaced technical terms with unrelated language from recent popular culture." I can't see how it's relevant to the comic, is it implying that these arent actually the questions he searched for, they're one autocorrection away from what he was trying to find? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158|108.162.250.158]] 00:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: For example, Google suggests "fsck" should be "fleck" and automatically alters the results accordingly. "Fleck Chrome extension" is a reasonable search query (Fleck is a web annotation service) but "fleck" is implausible as a typo. [[User:.42|.42]] ([[User talk:.42|talk]]) 00:28, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:: That seems like a stretch to me... if that was the intention then there would be no joke. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158|108.162.250.158]] 00:03, 11 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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isn't this related to autoexec.bat? [[User:Blydro|Blydro]] ([[User talk:Blydro|talk]]) 16:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)blydro<br />
: Or...autoexec.ncf (Netware), autoexec.nt (Windows), autoexec.cfg (Source/Valve/Counterstrike) and an adult reference at Urban Dictionary. [[User:Elvenivle|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle|talk]])<br />
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This isn't farfetched. In need of a server, I was recently considering using obfuscated strings in a public blog to temporarily control my own apps...and malware's been doing stuff like this for ages. [[User:Elvenivle|Elvenivle]] ([[User talk:Elvenivle|talk]])<br />
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:: I don't think a reference to "autoexec.bat" makes sense in the context of the comic... it's just a word that sounds similar (not being cheeky) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158|108.162.250.158]] 00:03, 11 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I originally interpreted "clean reinstall keybinding" as meaning that his keybindings were so entirely screwed that he wanted to do a clean reinstall of the keybinding system, but the other interpretation is funnier. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.74|108.162.219.74]] 16:24, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I've only ever seen "fsck" as a way of saying "fuck" that bypasses content filters, such as in global chat in games like World of Warcraft. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.62|173.245.52.62]] 16:25, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure it's file system consistency check. It's a program for checking your Linux filesystem. I think the Joke is that he needs to check his filesystem for corruption so often that he needs the convenience of a chrome extension. I have not edited the page because I neither use chrome extensions nor have I ever run fsck. Can anyone back me up on this? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.197|108.162.218.197]] 16:43, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, that's what fsck refers to here. I've run it many a time on my old Red Hat installation that somehow kept corrupting itself. --[[User:PsyMar|PsyMar]] ([[User talk:PsyMar|talk]]) 16:54, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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;Predictable touchpad<br />
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A predictable touchpad would actually be a major blow to internet security -- mouse events are being used to seed randomness generators for cryptography. I don't think this piece of information is suited for the explanation, but just in case someone's interested: You're welcome! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.91.247|141.101.91.247]] 16:26, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Just came across this:<br />
Pre-Touch Sensing for Mobile Interaction<br />
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiZkEYLXctE<br />
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After the npm burndown, someone actually made it possible to require from twitter: (https://gist.github.com/rauchg/5b032c2c2166e4e36713) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.83.114|162.158.83.114]] 18:25, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Syntax highlighting a natural language might color the subject, verb, object, adverbs, and prepositional phrases. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 18:27, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Google Translate is not limited to natlangs (e.g. it has Esperanto). And I heard of some syntax highlighters for conlangs (namely Lojban). --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.209|108.162.218.209]] 19:13, 9 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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"[https://www.google.com/search?q=syntax+highlighting+Google+translate syntax highlighting Google translate]" gives wildly different results from "[https://www.google.com/search?q=Google+translate+syntax+highlighting Google translate syntax highlighting]". The explainxkcd article has been climbing in the results; can it displace Wikipedia or CPAN for these queries? Might there be a hidden joke related to some query in the list? [[User:.42|.42]] ([[User talk:.42|talk]]) 00:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: (Update: for both queries, we have displaced Wikipedia, StackOverflow, and CPAN in some Google servers.) [[User:.42|.42]] ([[User talk:.42|talk]]) 02:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: The first result ''was'' Google's own documentation. No more! [[User:.42|.42]] ([[User talk:.42|talk]]) 04:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Is it really suitable to use the word leopard instead of keyboard? Even though it's linked to the relevant comic explanation it seems likely to add unnecessary confusion and doesn't really add to this explanation. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.217|162.158.34.217]] 10:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: It seems cool to me as long as the explanation is clear enough that your brain expects "keyboard" even if you previously didn't know what "keybinding" meant. I added a sentence to try and make it more obvious. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158|108.162.250.158]] 00:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Isn't the clean reinstall keybinding pointless for saving time since he'd have to redo it every time he did a clean reinstall? [[User:Figvh|Figvh]] ([[User talk:Figvh|talk]]) 11:34, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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: I think you're assuming that keybinding is about setting up new shortcuts (which the explanation used to seem to be saying); I think the jokes actually about the keyboard being functional at all... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.158|108.162.250.158]] 00:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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maybe it's just me, but does google actually do this anymore? it certainly used to. now all i get is nothing until i start typing, when i get a list of the most popular results for other people's searches. if you have to turn javascript (or something else) off to see this, maybe it should be mentioned. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.84|141.101.98.84]] 12:36, 10 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Idea for Turing-complete hardlinks: get an old UNIX that allows hardlinks to directories. With those, you can create loops in the filesystem (it's now an arbitrary directed graph, not a tree). Write an interpreter repeatedly calls link, chdir, mkdir, or rmdir based on some pattern matching on the existing names. It could terminate when it finds itself in an empty directory. Now you write programs on top of that interpreter by carefully setting up a tangle of directories and launching the interpreter at the right starting point. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.60.53|162.158.60.53]] 00:13, 11 May 2016 (UTC)</div>162.158.60.53https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1663:_Garden&diff=116763Talk:1663: Garden2016-04-07T02:21:56Z<p>162.158.60.53: /* Lost gardens after new comic */</p>
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<div>Some of the posts in [[#Finally Garden is up on xkcd|Finally Garden is up on xkcd]] where originally posted on the [[Talk:1662:_Jack_and_Jill#What_happened_to_Friday.27s_comic|Talk page for Jack and Jill]], below the section about why this comic was not already up on April 1st. The ''Finally Garden is up on xkcd'' section was moved here, because this was made after the comic was up, but before this page was created... [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
== Finally Garden is up on xkcd ==<br />
:It is here the comic we have been waiting for, and it seems it is a April fool comic although it first came out past midnight in all of the US except Hawaii...<br />
:I do not know when it will be on this page but for those impatient... <br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/5/53/Garden_Loading_screen_shot.png Loading screen shot]<br />
:It says to Relax, while it loads, but it will eventually get to a barren land with a growth lamp that can be moved:<br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/c/c8/Garden_Lamp_screen_shot.png Starting point screen shot]<br />
:The lamp can be moved and change color.<br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/0/09/Garden_Red_Lamp_screen_shot.png Red Lamp selected screen shot]<br />
:It may be there will be something growing if we wait long enough?<br />
:And there will be more lamps and new items:<br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/b/b8/Garden_Three_Lamp_screen_shot.png Three Lamps and birdbath screen shot.png]]<br />
:Yes he is messing with us for sure but at least not by not making a comic :-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:46, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I succeeded to get a small plant, but I'm not sure how. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.167|162.158.86.167]] 10:16, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Try not to cover everything with every light wavelength. I'm sure you get different plants with different wavelengths: <br />
:::[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/b/bf/aprilfool-2016-xorg.png Lots of growth].<br />
::::'''Moved the picture links''' to the image page, and inserted direct links to the images instad. It took up too much space. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:04, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, I've noticed a constant cpu usage, indicating some kind of number crunching. The script's name "linden" reminded me of linden dollars and crowdsourcing bitcoin mining with javascript, but afair linden dollars were never mined nor based on cryptography. -- [[User:Xorg|Xorg]] ([[User talk:Xorg|talk]]) 10:30, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::"Linden" is probably a reference to the Linden trees, a genus (Latin name Tilia). It would make more sense than a reference to dollars, at least. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.135.57|162.158.135.57]] 12:14, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::My first thought were {{w|Lindenmayer system}}s --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.242.240|198.41.242.240]] 16:29, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, it's *moving*. The leaves wobble in the wind. That explains the cpu usage. So far I have seen the following images: <code>asdfx2=""; for (asdfx in garden.linden.imgCache.imgs) { asdfx2 += asdfx+" "; } asdfx2<br />
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"http://xkcd.com/1663/art/background.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/talltrunk-2.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/shrub-8.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/wavyplant-3.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/turtle-1.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/shrub-6.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/birdbath.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/cactus-2.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/trunk-6.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/branch-11.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/branch-18.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/woman-1a.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/branch-21.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/rover.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/leaves-7.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/leaves-6.png "<br />
</code> -- [[User:Xorg|Xorg]] ([[User talk:Xorg|talk]]) 12:10, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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For those who are in https (with firefox for example) and don't see the "comic", there is mixed content. Click on the padlock on the up-left corner, then on the arrow, then "disable the protection against not secure elements" (or something like that). [[User:Seipas|Seipas]] ([[User talk:Seipas|talk]]) 11:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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The comic is finally here! ... but it won't load on my computer. Does anybody know what the problem might be or how I can fix it? [[User:Soad Kraken|Soad Kraken]] ([[User talk:Soad Kraken|talk]]) 12:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Does not load (continually Loading...) on IE/FF/Chrome for me (in UK, non-https, ad-blockers turned off) any ideas? {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.114}}<br />
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Loads for me in Chrome, but then every time it refreshes, it resets the lamps to the default (one lamp in center). Removes the ones I added. Does this happen to anyone else? [[User:Vixy|Vixy]] ([[User talk:Vixy|talk]]) 16:51, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Did someone try the debugmode?<br />
:http://xkcd.com/1663/?debug#YourCode<br />
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It also logs data in the console<br />
[[User:Magno|Magno]] ([[User talk:Magno|talk]]) 12:51, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Doesn't work even in HTTP at all. Both Chrome and Firefox fail to load the content due to CORS: "EventSource cannot load http://linden.xkcd.com/run. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://xkcd.com' is therefore not allowed access. The response had HTTP status code 500." [[Special:Contributions/141.101.80.31|141.101.80.31]] 16:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Post new images here: [[1663: Garden/Screen-shots]]. Anyone know what happens to the site, it looks really weird and it is difficult to use the site now. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Ah I can see there is a [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Technical#mw-head|community post about this]] already. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== April Fools? ==<br />
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What's the evidence that this is an April Fools comic? I think that the April Fools joke this year was the absence of a comic, and all the silly excuses about it when it was never coming. [[User:JoDu987|JoDu987]] ([[User talk:JoDu987|talk]]) 15:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:It's interactive. April Fools comics are always interactive. Normal comics rarely are. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 16:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I would rather say that it is also an april fool's comic because it came late. But first of all it has the pointless but time consuming concept of user input resulting in a comic that has no joke in it self, or at least only user made. Second the comic is rather complex and doesn't seem to work on all browsers. I cannot make it work on my explorer at home, but it did work at my office. It seems likely that he has worked very hard t make this work. When he then had problems with it Friday, he may have taken the chance of using April 1st to make excuses that people could read as being an April fool's joke. But neither way, he tells in the status updates that we are awaiting a complex comic, and in the end he said that the Friday comic (from April 1st) would come Sunday evening, and it did, so this is Fridays comic and thus also April the 1st's comic. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:The April Fool's Joke is lost on everyone here so far. Let me explain. You have 3 lamps you are allowed to use max and 3 different colors you can use max. That means there are a total of 7 possible colors you can use to grow things in your garden (red only, yellow only, blue only, red+yellow, red+blue, yellow+blue, and red+yellow+blue). If you are OCD, like me, you will work to position the lamps in such a way that all possible combinations are available at different positions on the ground. However, it cannot be done or if it can I have yet to find a way! I believe that is why the title text says "Relax". Because he knows the challenge will drive people crazy trying to find the solution. Maybe there is one but I think the April Fool's joke is that there isn't a possible solution but people will spend lots of time trying anyway.[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 16:33, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I updated the explanation with this information but apparently someone didn't like that and just removed the entire paragraph without any alternate explanation. Oh well...[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 17:23, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::This doesn't sound likely to me. It is impossible to do what you describe, and I would think "Relax" refers to the slow growth rate of the gardens. [[User:KangaroOS|Kangaro]][[User talk:KangaroOS|OS]] 18:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::And also it is possible over time because you can move the lamps. By the way there are more than three colors. There are also white and other hues in between red and yellow and red and blue. So there are many more combos. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 22:30, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that "Relax" can have multiple meanings but the fact that you are limited to 3 lamps and 3 primary colors bears significance to me. Or why not let you spawn in 4 or 5 or 6? I also think the April Fool's joke can refer to the fact that gardens are meant to be relaxing but instead you will be left tending your garden and working to achieve all possible combinations. The opposite of relaxing.[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 03:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Mobile ==<br />
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Like many of the dynamic comics, Garden doesn't interact well with mobile devices, but I have found a workaround for this one. On my Android tablet, going to m.xkcd.com/1663 gives me a page where I can manipulate the lights - tap once on a light to reveal the handles, tap in whitespace to hide them - but the landscape and growth are not rendered.<br />
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But, as I manipulate the lights, a string is appended to the URL; if I replace the initial '''m''' with '''www''' while preserving this string, I get a page where the landscape and growth are displayed. But from this page, I cannot manipulate the lights. But it does appear that the string includes enough information to prevent "losing progress", as several iterations of swapping between the mobile and desktop URLs retained all existing growth. Therefore, some level of timestamp information may also be included in the composition of this string. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.73|108.162.216.73]] 14:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, it doesn't look like the URL changes when I move the lights after all. So now instead I'm guessing it's more of a unique identifier or something. If two people both use the same string, will one person's act of moving a light be reflected by the other user refreshing their browser? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.73|108.162.216.73]] 14:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Resets ==<br />
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Resets occur sporadically, because they are actually happenning when there was a connection_error event in the WebWorker. The "game" is continually contacting the server (linden.xkcd.com) and is resetting the page on the connection errors. The fact that this resets the progress is probably a bug. --[[User:DukeBG|DukeBG]] ([[User talk:DukeBG|talk]]) 16:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It seems to reset the light placement and settings too, not just the plants in the garden [[Special:Contributions/162.158.210.238|162.158.210.238]] 07:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Linux ==<br />
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Anyone else NOT able to get it to work on Linux. Tried Chrome, and FF, both with all extensions disabled. Linux Mint (like Ubuntu). Constantly says "Loading..."<br />
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.217|162.158.214.217]] 17:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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You're not the only one. Running Unbuntu 12.04. Opera displays "Loading ..." for over 30 minutes. Firefox finishes loading and I can add and tweak lamps, but nothing grows.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.59|108.162.218.59]] 19:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Works fine with chromium on gentoo. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.156}}<br />
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I had the same problem with Firefox on Ubuntu 15.04. However, reloading the page fixed it. Maybe it's got something to do with caching, or maybe it just only works with some chance. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.92|141.101.104.92]] 11:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Available "plants" ==<br />
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<strike>I've got a Megan so far. Are we going to try to compile a list of what things will grow in the garden? --[[User:KingStarscream|KingStarscream]] ([[User talk:KingStarscream|talk]]) 19:06, 4 April 2016 (UTC)</strike><br />
: Oversight on my part. Apologies. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.64|173.245.52.64]] 19:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Suggestions for the explanation ==<br />
What is missing and what would be interesting. And how can you help... Add it here below, maybe even with subheadings. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
===Possible items===<br />
*Someone has made a list of [[1663:_Garden/Images|images of items]] that can be found on xkcd and seems to be complete. <br />
**Can anyone say for certain if it is complete now?<br />
***And can we be certain no new items appear? Anyone who can check this?<br />
**Can someone easily download all the images?<br />
***And if so either post them here as a zip file, or even better upload them to xkcd so we can have a page like this [[1350: Lorenz/Images]] for these items<br />
****And later tables similar to those in the [[1350: Lorenz#Themes|themes section]] of [[1350: Lorenz]]!<br />
*[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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===Urls===<br />
*'''[[1663: Garden/Users gardens|Post urls here]]'''.<br />
*Seems like the urls are not quite understood.<br />
**What I have found so far is that the urls do not change after you load a garden. Even if something grows or if the lights are moved.<br />
**If you save the url to begin with it will stay the same. <br />
**But if you load the url later then it is a view only image.<br />
***The questions are if the garden that an url refer to can be manipulated by the original user, to change what others see later even though they have the url. <br />
***My gardens reload to often to really have a chance to test this. But the url I posted yesterday (now used as [[1663:_Garden#Permanent_link|example]]) under explanation of permalinks kept developing after I copied it and closed the garden down.<br />
*[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I have understood it much better now, and the explanation has been changed to the way it work. Urls are still interesting to see how peoples gardens develop, but they are not permalinks, so only screen shots will be useful to guide the explanation.I have taken lots already of peoples posted interesting gardens, before they became overgrown or the interesting part might get deleted by the owner of the garden. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but Cueball can look like he's holding items if they grow on his outstretched hand. <br />
http://xkcd.com/#8d526e44-fb49-11e5-8001-42010a8e000c<br />
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.207|162.158.38.207]] 10:03, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:It has not directly. More that it can grow on other things. Nice garden. I'll put it in the url section and post a screen shot with the twig on Cueballs hand. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Title text ==<br />
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The "Create new light" and "Remove selected (delete key)" icons have their own title text. I don't think anything else does though. {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.74}}<br />
:Great thanks. Had not noticed. Added this to the explanation now. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:26, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Colour mapping ==<br />
* Yellow light grows plants and birdbaths, but so does a combination of Magenta and Cyan light.<br />
* Magenta light grows cacti and turtles. Yellow light does not seem to affect this.<br />
* Cyan light grows octopuses.<br />
* Yellow light plus Cyan light grows office furniture.<br />
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:Great it would be nice to see some garden urls or screen shots, especially of the furniture, which I haven't seen yet. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I've noticed that blue + yellow sometimes yields really tall tress. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.103|162.158.255.103]] 17:00, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I made a garden with GUID f31fe17a-fb3f-11e5-8001-42010a8e000d to show the effects of mixing Magenta with either Cyan or Yellow. Interestingly on the left there are no cacti, only wavy plants and turtles, and I see a couple of birds have recently arrived. Meanwhile on the right you see something much like a regular Yellow garden, with trees, shrubs and bird baths with ducks. My second garden has GUID 6ebc8e04-fb50-11e5-8002-42010a8e0014 where I wanted to see the effect of mixing Cyan with Yellow. The pure Yellow section has a regular garden, the pure Cyan section an octopus farm, while in the middle we have what I can only describe as a white section, where I have a couple of desks (but sadly no lamp), balloons, bunnies, cats, a plant pot, and even an obelisk. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.74|141.101.98.74]] 19:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://xkcd.com/1663/art/2x-bird-5.png Bird 5] ==<br />
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What's in the beak of [http://xkcd.com/1663/art/2x-bird-5.png Bird 5]? It reminds me of [[614: Woodpecker]], but it's something different. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.167|162.158.86.167]] 07:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:It looks to me like a mobile phone with charger cable attached {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.174}}<br />
::Yes that might be it, I had thought a mouse with a USB cable... By the way great spotted with the woodpecker. Beret Guy is also in this comic. This is why we need a table of items to make such observations. But who will do it ;-) [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Lost gardens after new comic ==<br />
Have others lost access to changing their garden after Wednesdays comic came out? Even though I can find it via the new link (as described in the trivia section) then it seems I can no longer change anything and just has to see my gardens develop on their own. That would be a shame. If everyone experience this, then it may be fixed? [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:51, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Same here. New gardens are editable, however. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.103|162.158.255.103]] 17:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope this gets fixed cause my garden needs some pruning... [[User:Palmerito0|Palmerito0]] ([[User talk:Palmerito0|talk]]) 17:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I still can adjust the lights and prune but my gardens do not seem to grow any more... Time limited activity or maximum objects, clicks ??? Wed Apr 6 22:20:24 EDT 2016<br />
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== Requires light on ground? ==<br />
I created a garden (GUID 5fad7434-fba3-11e5-8001-42010a8e0009) in which the lights are directed upward, but nothing has grown. This would seem to indicate that even the "flying" objects are "grown" from a particular piece of ground. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.217.191|108.162.217.191]] 22:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)mathuaerknedam<br />
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:Flying objects have invisible riser elements that grow first, such as http://linden.xkcd.com/art/bird-riser.png -- [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.4|108.162.219.4]] 01:59, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div>162.158.60.53https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:1663:_Garden&diff=116761Talk:1663: Garden2016-04-07T02:21:35Z<p>162.158.60.53: /* Lost gardens after new comic */</p>
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<div>Some of the posts in [[#Finally Garden is up on xkcd|Finally Garden is up on xkcd]] where originally posted on the [[Talk:1662:_Jack_and_Jill#What_happened_to_Friday.27s_comic|Talk page for Jack and Jill]], below the section about why this comic was not already up on April 1st. The ''Finally Garden is up on xkcd'' section was moved here, because this was made after the comic was up, but before this page was created... [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
== Finally Garden is up on xkcd ==<br />
:It is here the comic we have been waiting for, and it seems it is a April fool comic although it first came out past midnight in all of the US except Hawaii...<br />
:I do not know when it will be on this page but for those impatient... <br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/5/53/Garden_Loading_screen_shot.png Loading screen shot]<br />
:It says to Relax, while it loads, but it will eventually get to a barren land with a growth lamp that can be moved:<br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/c/c8/Garden_Lamp_screen_shot.png Starting point screen shot]<br />
:The lamp can be moved and change color.<br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/0/09/Garden_Red_Lamp_screen_shot.png Red Lamp selected screen shot]<br />
:It may be there will be something growing if we wait long enough?<br />
:And there will be more lamps and new items:<br />
:[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/b/b8/Garden_Three_Lamp_screen_shot.png Three Lamps and birdbath screen shot.png]]<br />
:Yes he is messing with us for sure but at least not by not making a comic :-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:46, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I succeeded to get a small plant, but I'm not sure how. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.167|162.158.86.167]] 10:16, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Try not to cover everything with every light wavelength. I'm sure you get different plants with different wavelengths: <br />
:::[http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/b/bf/aprilfool-2016-xorg.png Lots of growth].<br />
::::'''Moved the picture links''' to the image page, and inserted direct links to the images instad. It took up too much space. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:04, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, I've noticed a constant cpu usage, indicating some kind of number crunching. The script's name "linden" reminded me of linden dollars and crowdsourcing bitcoin mining with javascript, but afair linden dollars were never mined nor based on cryptography. -- [[User:Xorg|Xorg]] ([[User talk:Xorg|talk]]) 10:30, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::"Linden" is probably a reference to the Linden trees, a genus (Latin name Tilia). It would make more sense than a reference to dollars, at least. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.135.57|162.158.135.57]] 12:14, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::My first thought were {{w|Lindenmayer system}}s --[[Special:Contributions/198.41.242.240|198.41.242.240]] 16:29, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, it's *moving*. The leaves wobble in the wind. That explains the cpu usage. So far I have seen the following images: <code>asdfx2=""; for (asdfx in garden.linden.imgCache.imgs) { asdfx2 += asdfx+" "; } asdfx2<br />
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"http://xkcd.com/1663/art/background.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/talltrunk-2.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/shrub-8.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/wavyplant-3.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/turtle-1.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/shrub-6.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/birdbath.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/cactus-2.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/trunk-6.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/branch-11.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/branch-18.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/woman-1a.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/branch-21.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/rover.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/leaves-7.png http://xkcd.com/1663/art/leaves-6.png "<br />
</code> -- [[User:Xorg|Xorg]] ([[User talk:Xorg|talk]]) 12:10, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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For those who are in https (with firefox for example) and don't see the "comic", there is mixed content. Click on the padlock on the up-left corner, then on the arrow, then "disable the protection against not secure elements" (or something like that). [[User:Seipas|Seipas]] ([[User talk:Seipas|talk]]) 11:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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The comic is finally here! ... but it won't load on my computer. Does anybody know what the problem might be or how I can fix it? [[User:Soad Kraken|Soad Kraken]] ([[User talk:Soad Kraken|talk]]) 12:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Does not load (continually Loading...) on IE/FF/Chrome for me (in UK, non-https, ad-blockers turned off) any ideas? {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.114}}<br />
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Loads for me in Chrome, but then every time it refreshes, it resets the lamps to the default (one lamp in center). Removes the ones I added. Does this happen to anyone else? [[User:Vixy|Vixy]] ([[User talk:Vixy|talk]]) 16:51, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Did someone try the debugmode?<br />
:http://xkcd.com/1663/?debug#YourCode<br />
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It also logs data in the console<br />
[[User:Magno|Magno]] ([[User talk:Magno|talk]]) 12:51, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Doesn't work even in HTTP at all. Both Chrome and Firefox fail to load the content due to CORS: "EventSource cannot load http://linden.xkcd.com/run. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://xkcd.com' is therefore not allowed access. The response had HTTP status code 500." [[Special:Contributions/141.101.80.31|141.101.80.31]] 16:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Post new images here: [[1663: Garden/Screen-shots]]. Anyone know what happens to the site, it looks really weird and it is difficult to use the site now. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 13:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Ah I can see there is a [[explain_xkcd:Community_portal/Technical#mw-head|community post about this]] already. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== April Fools? ==<br />
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What's the evidence that this is an April Fools comic? I think that the April Fools joke this year was the absence of a comic, and all the silly excuses about it when it was never coming. [[User:JoDu987|JoDu987]] ([[User talk:JoDu987|talk]]) 15:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:It's interactive. April Fools comics are always interactive. Normal comics rarely are. [[User:Mikemk|Mikemk]] ([[User talk:Mikemk|talk]]) 16:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I would rather say that it is also an april fool's comic because it came late. But first of all it has the pointless but time consuming concept of user input resulting in a comic that has no joke in it self, or at least only user made. Second the comic is rather complex and doesn't seem to work on all browsers. I cannot make it work on my explorer at home, but it did work at my office. It seems likely that he has worked very hard t make this work. When he then had problems with it Friday, he may have taken the chance of using April 1st to make excuses that people could read as being an April fool's joke. But neither way, he tells in the status updates that we are awaiting a complex comic, and in the end he said that the Friday comic (from April 1st) would come Sunday evening, and it did, so this is Fridays comic and thus also April the 1st's comic. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 18:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:The April Fool's Joke is lost on everyone here so far. Let me explain. You have 3 lamps you are allowed to use max and 3 different colors you can use max. That means there are a total of 7 possible colors you can use to grow things in your garden (red only, yellow only, blue only, red+yellow, red+blue, yellow+blue, and red+yellow+blue). If you are OCD, like me, you will work to position the lamps in such a way that all possible combinations are available at different positions on the ground. However, it cannot be done or if it can I have yet to find a way! I believe that is why the title text says "Relax". Because he knows the challenge will drive people crazy trying to find the solution. Maybe there is one but I think the April Fool's joke is that there isn't a possible solution but people will spend lots of time trying anyway.[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 16:33, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I updated the explanation with this information but apparently someone didn't like that and just removed the entire paragraph without any alternate explanation. Oh well...[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 17:23, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::This doesn't sound likely to me. It is impossible to do what you describe, and I would think "Relax" refers to the slow growth rate of the gardens. [[User:KangaroOS|Kangaro]][[User talk:KangaroOS|OS]] 18:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::And also it is possible over time because you can move the lamps. By the way there are more than three colors. There are also white and other hues in between red and yellow and red and blue. So there are many more combos. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 22:30, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree that "Relax" can have multiple meanings but the fact that you are limited to 3 lamps and 3 primary colors bears significance to me. Or why not let you spawn in 4 or 5 or 6? I also think the April Fool's joke can refer to the fact that gardens are meant to be relaxing but instead you will be left tending your garden and working to achieve all possible combinations. The opposite of relaxing.[[User:R0hrshach|R0hrshach]] ([[User talk:R0hrshach|talk]]) 03:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Mobile ==<br />
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Like many of the dynamic comics, Garden doesn't interact well with mobile devices, but I have found a workaround for this one. On my Android tablet, going to m.xkcd.com/1663 gives me a page where I can manipulate the lights - tap once on a light to reveal the handles, tap in whitespace to hide them - but the landscape and growth are not rendered.<br />
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But, as I manipulate the lights, a string is appended to the URL; if I replace the initial '''m''' with '''www''' while preserving this string, I get a page where the landscape and growth are displayed. But from this page, I cannot manipulate the lights. But it does appear that the string includes enough information to prevent "losing progress", as several iterations of swapping between the mobile and desktop URLs retained all existing growth. Therefore, some level of timestamp information may also be included in the composition of this string. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.73|108.162.216.73]] 14:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, it doesn't look like the URL changes when I move the lights after all. So now instead I'm guessing it's more of a unique identifier or something. If two people both use the same string, will one person's act of moving a light be reflected by the other user refreshing their browser? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.73|108.162.216.73]] 14:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Resets ==<br />
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Resets occur sporadically, because they are actually happenning when there was a connection_error event in the WebWorker. The "game" is continually contacting the server (linden.xkcd.com) and is resetting the page on the connection errors. The fact that this resets the progress is probably a bug. --[[User:DukeBG|DukeBG]] ([[User talk:DukeBG|talk]]) 16:52, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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It seems to reset the light placement and settings too, not just the plants in the garden [[Special:Contributions/162.158.210.238|162.158.210.238]] 07:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Linux ==<br />
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Anyone else NOT able to get it to work on Linux. Tried Chrome, and FF, both with all extensions disabled. Linux Mint (like Ubuntu). Constantly says "Loading..."<br />
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.214.217|162.158.214.217]] 17:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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You're not the only one. Running Unbuntu 12.04. Opera displays "Loading ..." for over 30 minutes. Firefox finishes loading and I can add and tweak lamps, but nothing grows.<br />
[[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.59|108.162.218.59]] 19:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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Works fine with chromium on gentoo. {{unsigned ip|162.158.83.156}}<br />
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I had the same problem with Firefox on Ubuntu 15.04. However, reloading the page fixed it. Maybe it's got something to do with caching, or maybe it just only works with some chance. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.92|141.101.104.92]] 11:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Available "plants" ==<br />
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<strike>I've got a Megan so far. Are we going to try to compile a list of what things will grow in the garden? --[[User:KingStarscream|KingStarscream]] ([[User talk:KingStarscream|talk]]) 19:06, 4 April 2016 (UTC)</strike><br />
: Oversight on my part. Apologies. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.64|173.245.52.64]] 19:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Suggestions for the explanation ==<br />
What is missing and what would be interesting. And how can you help... Add it here below, maybe even with subheadings. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
===Possible items===<br />
*Someone has made a list of [[1663:_Garden/Images|images of items]] that can be found on xkcd and seems to be complete. <br />
**Can anyone say for certain if it is complete now?<br />
***And can we be certain no new items appear? Anyone who can check this?<br />
**Can someone easily download all the images?<br />
***And if so either post them here as a zip file, or even better upload them to xkcd so we can have a page like this [[1350: Lorenz/Images]] for these items<br />
****And later tables similar to those in the [[1350: Lorenz#Themes|themes section]] of [[1350: Lorenz]]!<br />
*[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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===Urls===<br />
*'''[[1663: Garden/Users gardens|Post urls here]]'''.<br />
*Seems like the urls are not quite understood.<br />
**What I have found so far is that the urls do not change after you load a garden. Even if something grows or if the lights are moved.<br />
**If you save the url to begin with it will stay the same. <br />
**But if you load the url later then it is a view only image.<br />
***The questions are if the garden that an url refer to can be manipulated by the original user, to change what others see later even though they have the url. <br />
***My gardens reload to often to really have a chance to test this. But the url I posted yesterday (now used as [[1663:_Garden#Permanent_link|example]]) under explanation of permalinks kept developing after I copied it and closed the garden down.<br />
*[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
::I have understood it much better now, and the explanation has been changed to the way it work. Urls are still interesting to see how peoples gardens develop, but they are not permalinks, so only screen shots will be useful to guide the explanation.I have taken lots already of peoples posted interesting gardens, before they became overgrown or the interesting part might get deleted by the owner of the garden. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but Cueball can look like he's holding items if they grow on his outstretched hand. <br />
http://xkcd.com/#8d526e44-fb49-11e5-8001-42010a8e000c<br />
[[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.207|162.158.38.207]] 10:03, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:It has not directly. More that it can grow on other things. Nice garden. I'll put it in the url section and post a screen shot with the twig on Cueballs hand. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Title text ==<br />
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The "Create new light" and "Remove selected (delete key)" icons have their own title text. I don't think anything else does though. {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.74}}<br />
:Great thanks. Had not noticed. Added this to the explanation now. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:26, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Colour mapping ==<br />
* Yellow light grows plants and birdbaths, but so does a combination of Magenta and Cyan light.<br />
* Magenta light grows cacti and turtles. Yellow light does not seem to affect this.<br />
* Cyan light grows octopuses.<br />
* Yellow light plus Cyan light grows office furniture.<br />
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:Great it would be nice to see some garden urls or screen shots, especially of the furniture, which I haven't seen yet. [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 21:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I've noticed that blue + yellow sometimes yields really tall tress. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.103|162.158.255.103]] 17:00, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I made a garden with GUID f31fe17a-fb3f-11e5-8001-42010a8e000d to show the effects of mixing Magenta with either Cyan or Yellow. Interestingly on the left there are no cacti, only wavy plants and turtles, and I see a couple of birds have recently arrived. Meanwhile on the right you see something much like a regular Yellow garden, with trees, shrubs and bird baths with ducks. My second garden has GUID 6ebc8e04-fb50-11e5-8002-42010a8e0014 where I wanted to see the effect of mixing Cyan with Yellow. The pure Yellow section has a regular garden, the pure Cyan section an octopus farm, while in the middle we have what I can only describe as a white section, where I have a couple of desks (but sadly no lamp), balloons, bunnies, cats, a plant pot, and even an obelisk. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.74|141.101.98.74]] 19:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://xkcd.com/1663/art/2x-bird-5.png Bird 5] ==<br />
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What's in the beak of [http://xkcd.com/1663/art/2x-bird-5.png Bird 5]? It reminds me of [[614: Woodpecker]], but it's something different. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.86.167|162.158.86.167]] 07:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
:It looks to me like a mobile phone with charger cable attached {{unsigned ip|141.101.104.174}}<br />
::Yes that might be it, I had thought a mouse with a USB cable... By the way great spotted with the woodpecker. Beret Guy is also in this comic. This is why we need a table of items to make such observations. But who will do it ;-) [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Lost gardens after new comic ==<br />
Have others lost access to changing their garden after Wednesdays comic came out? Even though I can find it via the new link (as described in the trivia section) then it seems I can no longer change anything and just has to see my gardens develop on their own. That would be a shame. If everyone experience this, then it may be fixed? [[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 15:51, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:Same here. New gardens are editable, however. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.103|162.158.255.103]] 17:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope this gets fixed cause my garden needs some pruning... [[User:Palmerito0|Palmerito0]] ([[User talk:Palmerito0|talk]]) 17:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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:I still can adjust the lights and prune but my gardens do not seem to grow any more... Time limited activity or maximum objects, clicks ???<br />
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== Requires light on ground? ==<br />
I created a garden (GUID 5fad7434-fba3-11e5-8001-42010a8e0009) in which the lights are directed upward, but nothing has grown. This would seem to indicate that even the "flying" objects are "grown" from a particular piece of ground. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.217.191|108.162.217.191]] 22:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)mathuaerknedam<br />
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:Flying objects have invisible riser elements that grow first, such as http://linden.xkcd.com/art/bird-riser.png -- [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.4|108.162.219.4]] 01:59, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div>162.158.60.53