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However it is done, note that the base of the 'first stage' extends/retracts in advance of the bit further up, as can be seen by the panelling position in the standing/extending/extended/retracted frame-sequence. Which might be worth noting if you're wanting to copy the technology. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.185|172.70.85.185]] 03:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: I think this might be theoretically possible, ignoring the apparently topological outer skin of the "rocket", with some kind of steerable [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_fountain space fountain]. Accelerating the astronauts at 10g for about two minutes might be survivable, and could limit the overall length to just over 800 miles. Though the shroud only has to extend to where the atmosphere is "sufficiently" thin. No idea whether this kind of design would tend to fall over when finished or not. -- [[User:Ken g6|Ken g6]] ([[User talk:Ken g6|talk]]) 04:24, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
::I believe it is 100% impossible. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:45, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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If (as it appears) the Bot created the page with various references to "Retract'''i'''ble" rarher than "Retract'''a'''ble", does this mean Randall made that error initially? (I say this as the guy who failed to notice he'd put "re'''su'''able" in his Transcript edit. ;) ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.129|172.70.162.129]] 03:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: Looks like yep, Randall originally made that error persistently, as the image here still has "retractible" in the comic, but the image on xkcd.com has been updated. Not sure how this is usually handled, I think it's mentioned in the FAQ. <br />
: Edit: okay, I've uploaded the new image, and added a trivia bit about the original. No idea how to update the page URL, that'll have to be someone else. [[User:Esogalt|Esogalt]] ([[User talk:Esogalt|talk]]) 04:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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In my own opinion I think this is actually a brilliant idea, if you think outside the box. Imagine those floppy noodle blow up baloons they use at car dealerships and the like. Now replace the continuous membrane with a membrane combined with multiple stages of internal baffles that can collapse and move around vertically, and scale the whole thing up. Now think about a straw. What if we engineered a straw that reaches all the way to the target (and then back into the atmosphere), and inflate it? we could have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThothX_Tower] the ThothX tower but that is a stacked kevlar cell system that only reaches 12 miles in height. The weight is not truly supported by the air, but rather by the tensile strength of the membranes. The question is how much air we'd need to move and how big would it need to be to function. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.182|172.69.69.182]] 04:45, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a compelling reason to refer to the countdown as spoken by "Tannoy" rather than "PA" or "Loudspeaker" or something? I had to look up what that was. [[User:Esogalt|Esogalt]] ([[User talk:Esogalt|talk]]) 05:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:I have correct to a count down voice. We have no idea how it emanates. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:44, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I tried to update the page and image URLs to fix the misspelling, and I think it mostly worked. But if you click the "Next" button from the previous comic it doesn't work so smoothly. Anyone know how to fix that?? [[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 05:40, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
: <strike>Erm, this seems to have broken the main page as well. I've found [[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Moving_a_page]], which says to use the "Move" option in the "More" menu at the top of the page. Did you use that?</strike> Never mind, I think I was just the victim of cache weirdness. [[User:Esogalt|Esogalt]] ([[User talk:Esogalt|talk]]) 05:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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As a rule, when you’re correcting someone else’s mistake, proofread your correction, or you might make a new mistake that will leave “it is” mark on explainxkcd. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.105|162.158.106.105]] 09:13, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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When I first read this comic, I thought it was a KSP reference. I feel like half the rockets I build do that if I don’t add struts. I realized in a second it was extending and not just noodling but it made me laugh, and then I laughed again after understanding the real joke. I got two jokes out of one. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 11:36, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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=== 0% Penis Joke? === <br />
It's hard for me to believe this is in no way a penis joke; particularly with the falling over rather than gracefully retracting, afterward. Is everyone truly certain there's ''not'' a penis joke intended, here? <br /><br />
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 14:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)</div>172.70.54.3https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2534:_Retractable_Rocket&diff=220016Talk:2534: Retractable Rocket2021-10-28T17:27:41Z<p>172.70.54.3: </p>
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However it is done, note that the base of the 'first stage' extends/retracts in advance of the bit further up, as can be seen by the panelling position in the standing/extending/extended/retracted frame-sequence. Which might be worth noting if you're wanting to copy the technology. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.185|172.70.85.185]] 03:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: I think this might be theoretically possible, ignoring the apparently topological outer skin of the "rocket", with some kind of steerable [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_fountain space fountain]. Accelerating the astronauts at 10g for about two minutes might be survivable, and could limit the overall length to just over 800 miles. Though the shroud only has to extend to where the atmosphere is "sufficiently" thin. No idea whether this kind of design would tend to fall over when finished or not. -- [[User:Ken g6|Ken g6]] ([[User talk:Ken g6|talk]]) 04:24, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
::I believe it is 100% impossible. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:45, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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If (as it appears) the Bot created the page with various references to "Retract'''i'''ble" rarher than "Retract'''a'''ble", does this mean Randall made that error initially? (I say this as the guy who failed to notice he'd put "re'''su'''able" in his Transcript edit. ;) ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.129|172.70.162.129]] 03:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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: Looks like yep, Randall originally made that error persistently, as the image here still has "retractible" in the comic, but the image on xkcd.com has been updated. Not sure how this is usually handled, I think it's mentioned in the FAQ. <br />
: Edit: okay, I've uploaded the new image, and added a trivia bit about the original. No idea how to update the page URL, that'll have to be someone else. [[User:Esogalt|Esogalt]] ([[User talk:Esogalt|talk]]) 04:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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In my own opinion I think this is actually a brilliant idea, if you think outside the box. Imagine those floppy noodle blow up baloons they use at car dealerships and the like. Now replace the continuous membrane with a membrane combined with multiple stages of internal baffles that can collapse and move around vertically, and scale the whole thing up. Now think about a straw. What if we engineered a straw that reaches all the way to the target (and then back into the atmosphere), and inflate it? we could have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThothX_Tower] the ThothX tower but that is a stacked kevlar cell system that only reaches 12 miles in height. The weight is not truly supported by the air, but rather by the tensile strength of the membranes. The question is how much air we'd need to move and how big would it need to be to function. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.69.182|172.69.69.182]] 04:45, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a compelling reason to refer to the countdown as spoken by "Tannoy" rather than "PA" or "Loudspeaker" or something? I had to look up what that was. [[User:Esogalt|Esogalt]] ([[User talk:Esogalt|talk]]) 05:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:I have correct to a count down voice. We have no idea how it emanates. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 07:44, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I tried to update the page and image URLs to fix the misspelling, and I think it mostly worked. But if you click the "Next" button from the previous comic it doesn't work so smoothly. Anyone know how to fix that?? [[User:Orion205|Orion205]] ([[User talk:Orion205|talk]]) 05:40, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
: <strike>Erm, this seems to have broken the main page as well. I've found [[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Moving_a_page]], which says to use the "Move" option in the "More" menu at the top of the page. Did you use that?</strike> Never mind, I think I was just the victim of cache weirdness. [[User:Esogalt|Esogalt]] ([[User talk:Esogalt|talk]]) 05:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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As a rule, when you’re correcting someone else’s mistake, proofread your correction, or you might make a new mistake that will leave “it is” mark on explainxkcd. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.106.105|162.158.106.105]] 09:13, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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When I first read this comic, I thought it was a KSP reference. I feel like half the rockets I build do that if I don’t add struts. I realized in a second it was extending and not just noodling but it made me laugh, and then I laughed again after understanding the real joke. I got two jokes out of one. --[[User:BlackBeret|BlackBeret]] ([[User talk:BlackBeret|talk]]) 11:36, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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=== 0% Penis Joke? === <br />
It's hard for me to believe this is in no way a penis joke; particularly with the falling over rather than gracefully retracting, afterward. Is everyone truly certain there's ''not'' a penis joke intended, here? <br /><br />
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 14:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:Paging Dr. Sigmund Freud, Dr. Sigmund Freud. One of your patients has gotten loose. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.54.3|172.70.54.3]] 17:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)</div>172.70.54.3https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2528:_Flag_Map_Sabotage&diff=219362Talk:2528: Flag Map Sabotage2021-10-16T17:22:42Z<p>172.70.54.3: Added question regarding recent "Red Flag" 🚩 Twitter memes.</p>
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Example map (of that of which sabotage might be intended) could be something like: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/0f/36/410f3661d1cee3b255b82a111f99d242.jpg ..? I have no doubt that someone is even now polishing off an initial Explanation, and wouldn't want to exit-conflict with them, but that's something like what I'd link to in order to demonstrate the thing being messed with. (Noting that the reference to North American territory both in words and the obvious Candian mapleleaf(less) flag as a basis. (Not sure, by sight, where the 'bite' matches, if not as per the red 'key', but note how Spain gets twisted in my link in order to not look odd with coastlines and similarly twisted Portugese neighbour cutting at odd angles through its stripes. That's the kind of thing this flag would evoke the confusion of.) [[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.35|141.101.76.35]] 02:26, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:It's now over 12 hours later, I think you should add it to the text. I didn't understand anything about the comic or even its explanation before I saw your picture. Also, what kind of drugs is Randall on‽ :D [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 10:54, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Why is Korsika coloured green on this map? It belongs to France. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.93.40|162.158.93.40]] 06:22, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:That's Sardinia, which belongs to Italy (the west of Italy is green). Corsica is north of Sardinia. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.140|162.158.89.140]] 06:42, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I can't help but thinking there's significance to the shape of the red area in the flag. Which country would this flag belong to in order to cause further confusion? And since it's red, why would any country cede part of its area to Delaware? Unless it's the flag of a newly independent Delaware? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.89.140|162.158.89.140]] 06:42, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Only the south-eastern part of Belgium, which would already be Delawarian, is likely to border Delawarian France. The unexplored area (and most if not all of the tornado zone) would likely be bordering the white area (unclaimed? neutral zone? sea?) of France. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.120|141.101.69.120]] 08:30, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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My first thought was that this was a Canada joke, since the flag looks a bit like Canada's flag (e.g. red a white with a solid red stripe on the edge) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.48.151|172.69.48.151]] 13:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:I just added my hypothesis that this is a new US flag that nicely attaches both to Canada's flag at the top, and Mexico's at the bottom. It would be nice to try and produce such a map with Randall's design, similar to https://st.depositphotos.com/2353733/5164/v/950/depositphotos_51647815-stock-illustration-north-america-map-with-flags.jpg.<br />
I would say that "Delware" might add new context to the flag from [[1815]], but if we assume that the three stars on that flag represent three states, and one of those states has to be Massachusets where Munroe lives, then there's no way it could also include Deleware and still be contiguous. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.143|172.69.71.143]] 14:07, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I kinda want to see what this would look like replacing USA on a map of the Americas now... [[Special:Contributions/172.70.134.131|172.70.134.131]] 15:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Looking at the above posts, yeah, I'm 95% sure the gap in the white at the bottom corresponds to the Gulf of Mexico. I think it likely that this design is intended to be superimposed onto the entire United States, to imply that the western portion of Canada continues further south and borders with the "newly independent" region of western Mexico. (Just ignore the enormous eagle to the south.)<br />
Also, I would guess that the light blue is intended to suggest that oceans and other large bodies of water are really "disputed territory"? --mezimm [[Special:Contributions/172.69.71.143|172.69.71.143]] 14:43, 15 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
:Also, I suppose the flag would be separately superimposed onto Alaska as well as the continental US, so that would also be interesting to see...[[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.142|172.69.63.142]] 18:03, 15 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
I think we are all in agreement that we need a section dedicated to displaying the theoretical maps and flags, along with the theories as to why this may or may not be what Randall envisioned. (plus an honorary comment on how we might be reading to far into this by assuming it goes on an existing/real country) [[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.22|172.69.68.22]] 22:11, 15 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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I don't agree with the hypothesis in the sentence starting "If this flag is intended for the USA...". I interpret this map to be a hypothetical new micronation within Delaware, where on a typical USA map of this design the state would be covered in a red stripe (perhaps suggesting that that stripe or all of them are greater Delaware). It makes more sense that Randall would establish a micronation just to sabotage these maps than it would to get this flag adopted as the national American flag. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.142.77|172.69.142.77]] 00:16, 16 October 2021 (UTC)<br />
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Any possible connection here to the "Red Flag" 🚩 memes that have been trending on Twitter recently? Is there some reason why Delaware raises red flags for Randall? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.54.3|172.70.54.3]] 17:22, 16 October 2021 (UTC)</div>172.70.54.3