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 Darth Vader counters by pointing out that regardless of the grammatical correctness of "It was I", it is a {{w|set phrase}} with a good archaic ring to it suitable for a dramatic revelation from an Emperor. Vader and the Emperor using English archaisms has canon basis in ''Star Wars'', with Vader asking "What is thy bidding, my master?" in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.  Historically, "thee", "thou", and "thy" were actually ''informal'' pronouns, but because they are not used in modern English, except in reciting historical works like some editions of the Bible, they are thought of as ceremonial and formal today.  Using the archaic form would be more consistent with the Emperor's speech pattern.
-Palpatine finally decides to take a third option, and uses "[https://web.archive.org/web/20180222034934/https://www.papermag.com/it-me-you-and-everyone-we-know-a-look-at-the-webs-most-ambiguous-meme-1427655235.html it me]" (link no longer working), a popular meme on Twitter in 2016. Darth Vader, out of embarrassment, begs him not to talk like that again.
+Palpatine finally decides to take a third option, and uses "[https://web.archive.org/web/20180222034934/https://www.papermag.com/it-me-you-and-everyone-we-know-a-look-at-the-webs-most-ambiguous-meme-1427655235.html it me]" , a popular meme on Twitter in 2016. Darth Vader, out of embarrassment, begs him not to talk like that again.
 One of [[Randall]]'s themes is that grammar pedants apply rules to correct other people long after those rules have fallen out of actual usage. Luke is here being an anti-grammar-pedant, asking the Emperor to disapply the rule. See [[890: Etymology]] for another instance of Luke failing to notice semantics.

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 Darth Vader counters by pointing out that regardless of the grammatical correctness of "It was I", it is a {{w|set phrase}} with a good archaic ring to it suitable for a dramatic revelation from an Emperor. Vader and the Emperor using English archaisms has canon basis in ''Star Wars'', with Vader asking "What is thy bidding, my master?" in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.  Historically, "thee", "thou", and "thy" were actually ''informal'' pronouns, but because they are not used in modern English, except in reciting historical works like some editions of the Bible, they are thought of as ceremonial and formal today.  Using the archaic form would be more consistent with the Emperor's speech pattern.
-Palpatine finally decides to take a third option, and uses "<strike>[https://www.papermag.com/it-me-you-and-everyone-we-know-a-look-at-the-webs-most-ambiguous-meme-1427655235.html it me]</strike>" (link no longer working), a popular meme on Twitter in 2016. Darth Vader, out of embarrassment, begs him not to talk like that again.
+Palpatine finally decides to take a third option, and uses "[https://web.archive.org/web/20180222034934/https://www.papermag.com/it-me-you-and-everyone-we-know-a-look-at-the-webs-most-ambiguous-meme-1427655235.html it me]" (link no longer working), a popular meme on Twitter in 2016. Darth Vader, out of embarrassment, begs him not to talk like that again.
 One of [[Randall]]'s themes is that grammar pedants apply rules to correct other people long after those rules have fallen out of actual usage. Luke is here being an anti-grammar-pedant, asking the Emperor to disapply the rule. See [[890: Etymology]] for another instance of Luke failing to notice semantics.

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 Darth Vader counters by pointing out that regardless of the grammatical correctness of "It was I", it is a {{w|set phrase}} with a good archaic ring to it suitable for a dramatic revelation from an Emperor. Vader and the Emperor using English archaisms has canon basis in ''Star Wars'', with Vader asking "What is thy bidding, my master?" in ''The Empire Strikes Back''.  Historically, "thee", "thou", and "thy" were actually ''informal'' pronouns, but because they are not used in modern English, except in reciting historical works like some editions of the Bible, they are thought of as ceremonial and formal today.  Using the archaic form would be more consistent with the Emperor's speech pattern.
-Palpatine finally decides to take a third option, and uses "[http://www.papermag.com/it-me-you-and-everyone-we-know-a-look-at-the-webs-most-ambiguous-meme-1427655235.html it me]", a popular meme on Twitter in 2016. Darth Vader, out of embarrassment, begs him not to talk like that again.
+Palpatine finally decides to take a third option, and uses "<strike>[https://www.papermag.com/it-me-you-and-everyone-we-know-a-look-at-the-webs-most-ambiguous-meme-1427655235.html it me]</strike>" (link no longer working), a popular meme on Twitter in 2016. Darth Vader, out of embarrassment, begs him not to talk like that again.
 One of [[Randall]]'s themes is that grammar pedants apply rules to correct other people long after those rules have fallen out of actual usage. Luke is here being an anti-grammar-pedant, asking the Emperor to disapply the rule. See [[890: Etymology]] for another instance of Luke failing to notice semantics.

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 ==Explanation==
-This comic starts with a scene from ''{{w|Return of the Jedi}}'', with Emperor {{w|Palpatine}}, {{w|Luke Skywalker}} (drawn as an xkcd character) and {{w|Darth Vader}}.  The original scene in the movie had a tense mood as the hero faces tLEOPARD SOYJAK[[File:Clouded Leopard Mouth Open Cropped.jpg|500px|thumb|left|LEOPARD SOYJAK]]
+This comic starts with a scene from ''{{w|Return of the Jedi}}'', with Emperor {{w|Palpatine}}, {{w|Luke Skywalker}} (drawn as an xkcd character) and {{w|Darth Vader}}.  The original scene in the movie had a tense mood as the hero faces the villains.  The comic's version of the scene, however, descends into a silly debate of grammar rules.
 Initially Palpatine begins saying "It was I who..." in accordance with traditional {{w|linguistic prescriptivism|prescriptive}} English grammar.  The verb "to be" is a {{w|Indo-European copula|copula}}, meaning that in a sentence of the form "A is B", both A ''and'' B are treated like the subject of the sentence. In most Indo-European languages, subjects use the {{w|nominative case}} (''I'', ''he'', ''she'', and ''we'') while objects use the {{w|accusative case}} (''me'', ''him'', ''her'', ''us'').  This rule is still strong in languages like German, where speakers still use cases and therefore are familiar with how they work.

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 ==Explanation==
-This comic starts with a scene from ''{{w|Return of the Jedi}}'', with Emperor {{w|Palpatine}}, {{w|Luke Skywalker}} (drawn as an xkcd character) and {{w|Darth Vader}}.  The original scene in the movie had a tense mood as the hero faces the villains.  The comic's version of the scene, however, descends into a silly debate of grammar rules.
+This comic starts with a scene from ''{{w|Return of the Jedi}}'', with Emperor {{w|Palpatine}}, {{w|Luke Skywalker}} (drawn as an xkcd character) and {{w|Darth Vader}}.  The original scene in the movie had a tense mood as the hero faces tLEOPARD SOYJAK[[File:Clouded Leopard Mouth Open Cropped.jpg|500px|thumb|left|LEOPARD SOYJAK]]
 Initially Palpatine begins saying "It was I who..." in accordance with traditional {{w|linguistic prescriptivism|prescriptive}} English grammar.  The verb "to be" is a {{w|Indo-European copula|copula}}, meaning that in a sentence of the form "A is B", both A ''and'' B are treated like the subject of the sentence. In most Indo-European languages, subjects use the {{w|nominative case}} (''I'', ''he'', ''she'', and ''we'') while objects use the {{w|accusative case}} (''me'', ''him'', ''her'', ''us'').  This rule is still strong in languages like German, where speakers still use cases and therefore are familiar with how they work.