1984: Misinterpretation - Revision history

172.69.34.190: a/an grammar change ("This avoidance is phrased using a/an analogy...")

2024-01-29T18:56:30Z

a/an grammar change ("This avoidance is phrased using a/an analogy...")

172.69.34.189: An analogy is not a simile.

2024-01-29T18:55:17Z

An analogy is not a simile.

172.71.178.79: Undo revision 329066 by TenGolf MathHacker (talk) 172.etc probably knows it's a 'joke link'. But the joke only works on blatantly obvious and unreferenced facts, Shirley?

2023-11-15T21:03:12Z

Undo revision 329066 by TenGolf MathHacker (talk) 172.etc probably knows it's a 'joke link'. But the joke only works on blatantly obvious *and unreferenced* facts, Shirley?

TenGolf MathHacker: @172.70.91.242 Actually, this one links to a comic. When we actually need a citation we use {{acn}}.

2023-11-15T15:17:11Z

@172.70.91.242 Actually, this one links to a comic. When we actually need a citation we use {{acn}}.

AmossGuy: fix a link

2023-11-14T01:11:38Z

fix a link

172.70.91.242: Makes no sense when you have the cite-link already there.

2023-10-24T23:42:16Z

Makes no sense when you have the cite-link already there.

TenGolf MathHacker: /* Explanation */

2023-10-24T18:16:13Z

‎Explanation

TenGolf MathHacker: /* Explanation */

2023-10-24T18:15:34Z

‎Explanation

172.71.178.30: Undo revision 320875 by Catpolof (talk) Gratuitously removed actual link to qualify a statement? Overtrying on the Citation Needed front, reverting on principle.

2023-08-15T00:24:53Z

Undo revision 320875 by Catpolof (talk) Gratuitously removed *actual* link to qualify a statement? Overtrying on the Citation Needed front, reverting on principle.

Catpolof: /* Explanation */

2023-08-14T23:39:19Z

‎Explanation

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 In the title text, Cueball then answers that he cannot possibly account for the many possible interpretations which the message, potentially reaching the whole world, could acquire. This is an example of the {{w|Nirvana fallacy}}. Cueball's idealized solution is to consider how every person on Earth would interpret the message, so Cueball rejects doing anything less as insufficient; however, actually figuring out how every person on Earth would interpret the message is unfeasible, so Cueball doesn't do that either. The reply comes once again sarcastically, deriding his point and saying that a middle ground between taking up such an effort and entirely avoiding it must be reached.
-This avoidance is phrased using a [[762: Analogies|analogy]] as “covering your eyes and ears and yelling logically correct statements into the void”, implying that no one would understand the logical sentences (thus the void), and would instead read them more naturally – and also that ignoring the appalled reaction of listeners to their own interpretation of the sentences is similar to covering your eyes and ears. This action makes communication more difficult through the popular{{Citation needed}} means of speech, text and sign language. If the hands are occupied with covering either part, then Braille communication is also impossible. Therefore, the action of “covering your eyes and ears” is a metaphor for deliberately making it more difficult to communicate with oneself. The simile might also mean that Cueball subconsciously rejects criticism as it would hurt his ego.
+This avoidance is phrased using an [[762: Analogies|analogy]] as “covering your eyes and ears and yelling logically correct statements into the void”, implying that no one would understand the logical sentences (thus the void), and would instead read them more naturally – and also that ignoring the appalled reaction of listeners to their own interpretation of the sentences is similar to covering your eyes and ears. This action makes communication more difficult through the popular{{Citation needed}} means of speech, text and sign language. If the hands are occupied with covering either part, then Braille communication is also impossible. Therefore, the action of “covering your eyes and ears” is a metaphor for deliberately making it more difficult to communicate with oneself. The simile might also mean that Cueball subconsciously rejects criticism as it would hurt his ego.
 It is clear that Cueball is acting as a straw man to further Randall's point, and the off-panel character is portrayed as the (sarcastic) voice of reason.

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 In the title text, Cueball then answers that he cannot possibly account for the many possible interpretations which the message, potentially reaching the whole world, could acquire. This is an example of the {{w|Nirvana fallacy}}. Cueball's idealized solution is to consider how every person on Earth would interpret the message, so Cueball rejects doing anything less as insufficient; however, actually figuring out how every person on Earth would interpret the message is unfeasible, so Cueball doesn't do that either. The reply comes once again sarcastically, deriding his point and saying that a middle ground between taking up such an effort and entirely avoiding it must be reached.
-This avoidance is phrased using a [[762: Analogies|simile]] as “covering your eyes and ears and yelling logically correct statements into the void”, implying that no one would understand the logical sentences (thus the void), and would instead read them more naturally – and also that ignoring the appalled reaction of listeners to their own interpretation of the sentences is similar to covering your eyes and ears. This action makes communication more difficult through the popular{{Citation needed}} means of speech, text and sign language. If the hands are occupied with covering either part, then Braille communication is also impossible. Therefore, the action of “covering your eyes and ears” is a metaphor for deliberately making it more difficult to communicate with oneself. The simile might also mean that Cueball subconsciously rejects criticism as it would hurt his ego.
+This avoidance is phrased using a [[762: Analogies|analogy]] as “covering your eyes and ears and yelling logically correct statements into the void”, implying that no one would understand the logical sentences (thus the void), and would instead read them more naturally – and also that ignoring the appalled reaction of listeners to their own interpretation of the sentences is similar to covering your eyes and ears. This action makes communication more difficult through the popular{{Citation needed}} means of speech, text and sign language. If the hands are occupied with covering either part, then Braille communication is also impossible. Therefore, the action of “covering your eyes and ears” is a metaphor for deliberately making it more difficult to communicate with oneself. The simile might also mean that Cueball subconsciously rejects criticism as it would hurt his ego.
 It is clear that Cueball is acting as a straw man to further Randall's point, and the off-panel character is portrayed as the (sarcastic) voice of reason.

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 ==Explanation==
-[[Cueball]] is complaining that people are mad at him ''again'' because of a misinterpretation of his statements. This is referenced by the comic's title. He complains that since (he believes) he is being perfectly clear, it cannot be his fault that everyone misinterprets him. The off-screen voice sarcastically agrees that communication is an activity that only involves one person; in fact, of course, it {{w|Models of communication|famously involves at least two}}.{{citation needed}}
+[[Cueball]] is complaining that people are mad at him ''again'' because of a misinterpretation of his statements. This is referenced by the comic's title. He complains that since (he believes) he is being perfectly clear, it cannot be his fault that everyone misinterprets him. The off-screen voice sarcastically agrees that communication is an activity that only involves one person; in fact, of course, it {{w|Models of communication|famously involves at least two}}.
 Cueball speaks as though his communications are complete and perfect once he has finished making them. The reality is that communication can't be considered complete until the message has also been received and understood. Cueball is failing to take into account the need for partnership between sender and receiver, and doesn't realize that the problem may well be in the way he carries out his side of the transaction rather than in the way ''everybody'' else is carrying out theirs.

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 ==Explanation==
-[[Cueball]] is complaining that people are mad at him ''again'' because of a misinterpretation of his statements. This is referenced by the comic's title. He complains that since (he believes) he is being perfectly clear, it cannot be his fault that everyone misinterprets him. The off-screen voice sarcastically agrees that communication is an activity that only involves one person; in fact, of course, it {{w|Models of communication|famously involves at least two}}.
+[[Cueball]] is complaining that people are mad at him ''again'' because of a misinterpretation of his statements. This is referenced by the comic's title. He complains that since (he believes) he is being perfectly clear, it cannot be his fault that everyone misinterprets him. The off-screen voice sarcastically agrees that communication is an activity that only involves one person; in fact, of course, it {{w|Models of communication|famously involves at least two}}.{{citation needed}}
 Cueball speaks as though his communications are complete and perfect once he has finished making them. The reality is that communication can't be considered complete until the message has also been received and understood. Cueball is failing to take into account the need for partnership between sender and receiver, and doesn't realize that the problem may well be in the way he carries out his side of the transaction rather than in the way ''everybody'' else is carrying out theirs.

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 ==Explanation==
-[[Cueball]] is complaining that people are mad at him ''again'' because of a misinterpretation of his statements. This is referenced by the comic's title. He complains that since (he believes) he is being perfectly clear, it cannot be his fault that everyone misinterprets him. The off-screen voice sarcastically agrees that communication is an activity that only involves one person; in fact, of course, it {{w|Communication#Models|famously involves at least two}}.
+[[Cueball]] is complaining that people are mad at him ''again'' because of a misinterpretation of his statements. This is referenced by the comic's title. He complains that since (he believes) he is being perfectly clear, it cannot be his fault that everyone misinterprets him. The off-screen voice sarcastically agrees that communication is an activity that only involves one person; in fact, of course, it {{w|Models of communication|famously involves at least two}}.
 Cueball speaks as though his communications are complete and perfect once he has finished making them. The reality is that communication can't be considered complete until the message has also been received and understood. Cueball is failing to take into account the need for partnership between sender and receiver, and doesn't realize that the problem may well be in the way he carries out his side of the transaction rather than in the way ''everybody'' else is carrying out theirs.

1984: Misinterpretation - Revision history

172.69.34.190: a/an grammar change ("This avoidance is phrased using a/an analogy...")

172.69.34.189: An analogy is not a simile.

172.71.178.79: Undo revision 329066 by TenGolf MathHacker (talk) 172.etc probably knows it's a 'joke link'. But the joke only works on blatantly obvious *and unreferenced* facts, Shirley?

TenGolf MathHacker: @172.70.91.242 Actually, this one links to a comic. When we actually need a citation we use {{acn}}.

AmossGuy: fix a link

172.70.91.242: Makes no sense when you have the cite-link already there.

TenGolf MathHacker: /* Explanation */

TenGolf MathHacker: /* Explanation */

172.71.178.30: Undo revision 320875 by Catpolof (talk) Gratuitously removed *actual* link to qualify a statement? Overtrying on the Citation Needed front, reverting on principle.

Catpolof: /* Explanation */

172.71.178.79: Undo revision 329066 by TenGolf MathHacker (talk) 172.etc probably knows it's a 'joke link'. But the joke only works on blatantly obvious and unreferenced facts, Shirley?

172.71.178.30: Undo revision 320875 by Catpolof (talk) Gratuitously removed actual link to qualify a statement? Overtrying on the Citation Needed front, reverting on principle.