2861: X Value - Revision history

Kynde at 17:54, 8 February 2026

2026-02-08T17:54:37Z

Kynde: Category:News

2026-02-07T14:53:39Z

Category:News

162.158.167.192: /* Explanation */

2025-02-13T09:49:33Z

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172.71.158.15: /* Explanation */

2025-02-13T09:44:59Z

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SomeoneIGuess at 17:46, 6 May 2024

2024-05-06T17:46:23Z

172.71.94.12: Undo revision 330344 by 172.71.114.170 (talk): The "N" in "NP" stands for "Non-", not a number

2023-12-15T17:18:19Z

Undo revision 330344 by 172.71.114.170 (talk): The "N" in "NP" stands for "Non-", not a number

172.69.43.138 at 12:21, 9 December 2023

2023-12-09T12:21:49Z

172.71.242.137 at 07:35, 8 December 2023

2023-12-08T07:35:26Z

172.71.114.170 at 11:58, 7 December 2023

2023-12-07T11:58:37Z

172.71.178.54: Incorrect changes.

2023-12-03T18:48:25Z

Incorrect changes.

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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==
		+	This is one of the [[:Category:News\|News]] comics, delivering big math news.
		+
	In algebra, a {{w\|Variable (mathematics)\|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083. The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w\|Pi\|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w\|E (mathematical constant)\|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' (an {{w\|Imaginary unit}}, where i<sup>2</sup> = -1), and ''c'' (the {{w\|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w\|FFF system\|fur/ftn}})).		In algebra, a {{w\|Variable (mathematics)\|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083. The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w\|Pi\|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w\|E (mathematical constant)\|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' (an {{w\|Imaginary unit}}, where i<sup>2</sup> = -1), and ''c'' (the {{w\|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w\|FFF system\|fur/ftn}})).

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 {{comic discussion}}
+[[Category:News]]
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 According to the title text, however, the value of ''n'' ''has'' been narrowed down to somewhere between 8 and 10<sup>500</sup>, or one hundred quinsexagintacentillion. This narrowing-down isn't particularly narrow, although it is perhaps quite specific compared to the 'pre-narrowing' possibilities of being absolutely any finite value at all.
-The title text also says that this narrowing has ruled out the (usually) simplest values of 1 or 2. In mathematical problems involving iterating over multiple inputs of a function, the variable n is used to represent the current iteration's input. In such problems the inputs "n=1" and "n=2" are used as examples to demonstrate the function, to let the reader wrap their head around it. The title text is spoofing the usage of "n=1" and "n=2" as if they were the leading theories for the constant value of n, and that these theories have been debunked by supposedly proving that n's minimum value is 8.
+The title text also says that this narrowing has ruled out the (usually) simplest values of 1 or 2. In mathematical problems involving iterating over multiple inputs of a function, or functions where the input is a list of variable size, the variable n is used to represent either the current iteration's input or the length of the input list. In both cases the inputs "n=1" and "n=2" are used as examples to demonstrate the function, to let the reader wrap their head around the basics of the function. The title text is spoofing the usage of "n=1" and "n=2" as if they were the leading theories for the constant value of n, and that these theories have been debunked by supposedly proving that n's minimum value is 8.
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 According to the title text, however, the value of ''n'' ''has'' been narrowed down to somewhere between 8 and 10<sup>500</sup>, or one hundred quinsexagintacentillion. This narrowing-down isn't particularly narrow, although it is perhaps quite specific compared to the 'pre-narrowing' possibilities of being absolutely any finite value at all.
-The title text also says that this narrowing has ruled out the (usually) simplest values of 1 or 2. Saying "n=1" or "n=2" is a popular way to disclaim or discredit a story implying causality. An anecdote followed by the disclaimer "n=1" typically involves a personal experience or observation that someone shares as a point of reference or evidence, but then acknowledges that it's just a single instance and may not be representative of a broader trend or truth.
+The title text also says that this narrowing has ruled out the (usually) simplest values of 1 or 2. In mathematical problems involving iterating over multiple inputs of a function, the variable n is used to represent the current iteration's input. In such problems the inputs "n=1" and "n=2" are used as examples to demonstrate the function, to let the reader wrap their head around it. The title text is spoofing the usage of "n=1" and "n=2" as if they were the leading theories for the constant value of n, and that these theories have been debunked by supposedly proving that n's minimum value is 8.
 ==Transcript==

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 ==Explanation==
-In algebra, a {{w|Variable (mathematics)|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083.  The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w|Pi|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w|E (mathematical constant)|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' ({{w|Imaginary number}}, equal to √-1), and ''c'' (the {{w|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w|FFF system|fur/ftn}})).
+In algebra, a {{w|Variable (mathematics)|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083.  The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w|Pi|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w|E (mathematical constant)|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' (an {{w|Imaginary unit}}, where i<sup>2</sup> = -1), and ''c'' (the {{w|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w|FFF system|fur/ftn}})).
 The specific number 4.1083 does not have any notable significance or special role in the contexts of physics, chemistry, finance, astronomy or cryptography. This number to 3 decimal places, 4.108, was referenced previously in comic [[899: Number Line]].

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	If values of 1 or 2 have been ruled out, that implies that all causality claims based on observations technically have at least 8 observations (whether known or unknown). In the honey-cold example, that means at least 7 other people have had the same experience.		If values of 1 or 2 have been ruled out, that implies that all causality claims based on observations technically have at least 8 observations (whether known or unknown). In the honey-cold example, that means at least 7 other people have had the same experience.
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−	~~It is generally assumed that n is not one, as otherwise proving p = np would have been trivial.~~

	==Transcript==		==Transcript==

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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==
−	~~{{incomplete\|Created by A SET OF LOG(N) MATHEMATICIANS TRYING TO FIND THE VALUE OF Y - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}~~
	In algebra, a {{w\|Variable (mathematics)\|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083. The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w\|Pi\|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w\|E (mathematical constant)\|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' ({{w\|Imaginary number}}, equal to √-1), and ''c'' (the {{w\|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w\|FFF system\|fur/ftn}})).		In algebra, a {{w\|Variable (mathematics)\|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083. The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w\|Pi\|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w\|E (mathematical constant)\|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' ({{w\|Imaginary number}}, equal to √-1), and ''c'' (the {{w\|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w\|FFF system\|fur/ftn}})).

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	If values of 1 or 2 have been ruled out, that implies that all causality claims based on observations technically have at least 8 observations (whether known or unknown). In the honey-cold example, that means at least 7 other people have had the same experience.		If values of 1 or 2 have been ruled out, that implies that all causality claims based on observations technically have at least 8 observations (whether known or unknown). In the honey-cold example, that means at least 7 other people have had the same experience.
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		+	It is generally assumed that n is not one, as otherwise proving p = np would have been trivial.

	==Transcript==		==Transcript==

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 | titletext = The value of n is still unknown, but new results constrain it to fall between 8 and 10^500, ruling out popular 'n=1' and 'n=2' theories.
 }}
 ==Explanation==
-{{incomplete|Created by A SET OF N^sqrt(-y) MATHEMATICIANS TRYING TO FIND THE VALUE OF Y - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
+{{incomplete|Created by A SET OF N MATHEMATICIANS TRYING TO FIND THE VALUE OF Y - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
-In algebra, a {{w|Variable (mathematics)|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083.  The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w|Pi|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w|E (mathematical constant)|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''I'' ({{w|Imaginary number}}, equal to √-1), and ''c'' (the {{w|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w|FFF system|fur/ftn}})).
+In algebra, a {{w|Variable (mathematics)|variable}} is any symbol used to represent a number that has not been determined or chosen. The most familiar algebraic variable is ''x'' (the unknown input), with ''y'' often being the yet-to-be-determined output (its value being dependent on ''x''). According to the comic, the value of ''x'' has finally been found, being 4.1083.  The joke is that a general-purpose variable, which may take different values in different scenarios, turns out to have a specific value, as though it were a constant. Constants in mathematics and other scientific fields are also often represented by a single symbol - some of the most well-known are {{w|Pi|''π''}} (3.14159...), ''e'' ({{w|E (mathematical constant)|Euler's number}}, 2.71828...), ''i'' ({{w|Imaginary number}}, equal to √-1), and ''c'' (the {{w|speed of light}} in a vacuum, 299,792,458 m/s (670,616,629 mph, 1,079,252,848.8 km/h, 1.8026x10<sup>12</sup> {{w|FFF system|fur/ftn}})).
-The specific number 4.1083 does not have any notable significance or special role in the contexts of physics, chemistry, finance, astronomy or cryptography. This number to 3 decimal places, 4.108, was referenced previously in a comic [[899: Number Line]].
+The specific number 4.1083 does not have any notable significance or special role in the contexts of physics, chemistry, finance, astronomy or cryptography. This number to 3 decimal places, 4.108, was referenced previously in comic [[899: Number Line]].
 The '''title text''' declares the value of ''n'' is unknown. ''n'' is often used as an unknown/undetermined ''integer'' value. In {{w|Sampling (statistics)|statistics}}, it might be used to specify the size of a sample. For example, a list where ''n = 50'' would mean the list contains 50 data points, for which that number of iterations or a larger number of cross-comparisons might be expected.