2862: Typical Seating Chart - Revision history

82.132.236.174: /* Explanation */ tyop

2025-10-22T05:58:44Z

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82.132.236.174: /* Explanation */ Was only going to correct the incorrectly quoted "must" to "has to", but added a few extra bits (with rearrangement) that occured to me.

2025-10-22T05:57:16Z

‎Explanation: Was only going to correct the incorrectly quoted "must" to "has to", but added a few extra bits (with rearrangement) that occured to me.

Mathmaster: /* Explanation */

2025-10-21T23:02:32Z

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162.158.41.37 at 00:02, 6 March 2025

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172.68.64.223: /* Explanation */

2024-10-22T20:52:14Z

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162.158.167.112 at 18:29, 24 August 2024

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SomeoneIGuess at 00:35, 26 April 2024

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Whoop whoop pull up: /* Explanation */

2024-03-29T17:50:38Z

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162.158.74.48: Undo revision 331784 by 172.69.23.118 (talk) Too much needfulness. (And not enough confidence in consumer seatbelts...)

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Undo revision 331784 by 172.69.23.118 (talk) Too much needfulness. (And not enough confidence in consumer seatbelts...)

172.69.23.118: /* Explanation */

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 |Propellers
 |These passengers' responsibility is to pedal, turning propellers that inexplicably operate alongside the jet engines (which is very unusual, unlike engines that are {{w|turboprop}}, {{w|propfan}}, etc, which may have usefully integrated jet turbine and propeller technology in a single unit). It is not feasible for even two passengers to contribute sufficient power to make a significant difference to that already supplied by two jet engines. {{w|Human-powered aircraft|Pedal-powered planes}} do exist, although not in combination with jet engines. However, the "has to" might imply that they are providing a significant contribution to the thrust, which is unlikely with such a heavy aircraft already equipped with jet engines.
-Alternatively, it is merely an ''obligation'' forced upon anyone who sits there, and that by taking such seats (perhaps at a reduced/negative seat-price) they ''must'' be willing to pedal as a token contribution when asked to, just as exit row seats can come with additional responsibilities to assist the aircrew in the case of an emergency. Or perhaps those seates there are even physically compelled to, as the freely rotating propeller turns the pedals, to which they are tightly strapped, rather than the other way round.
+Alternatively, it is merely an ''obligation'' forced upon anyone who sits there, and that by taking such seats (perhaps at a reduced/negative seat-price) they ''must'' be willing to pedal as a token contribution when asked to, just as exit row seats can come with additional responsibilities to assist the aircrew in the case of an emergency. Or perhaps those seated there are even physically compelled to, as the freely rotating propeller turns the pedals, to which they are tightly strapped, rather than the other way round.
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 |Passenger has to pedal
 |Propellers
-|Exit row seats come with additional responsibilities to help in the case of an emergency. These passengers' responsibility is to pedal, turning the propellers. It is not feasible for two passengers to contribute sufficient power to make a significant difference to that already supplied by the two equipped jet engines. {{w|Human-powered aircraft|Pedal-powered planes}} do exist, although not in combination with jet engines. However, the "must" might imply that they are controlling the engine, and peddling isn't enough to power such heavy aircraft.
+|These passengers' responsibility is to pedal, turning propellers that inexplicably operate alongside the jet engines (which is very unusual, unlike engines that are {{w|turboprop}}, {{w|propfan}}, etc, which may have usefully integrated jet turbine and propeller technology in a single unit). It is not feasible for even two passengers to contribute sufficient power to make a significant difference to that already supplied by two jet engines. {{w|Human-powered aircraft|Pedal-powered planes}} do exist, although not in combination with jet engines. However, the "has to" might imply that they are providing a significant contribution to the thrust, which is unlikely with such a heavy aircraft already equipped with jet engines.
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 |Passenger has to pedal
 |Propellers
-|Exit row seats come with additional responsibilities to help in the case of an emergency. These passengers' responsibility is to pedal, turning the propellers. It is not feasible for two passengers to contribute sufficient power to make a significant difference to that already supplied by the two equipped jet engines. {{w|Human-powered aircraft|Pedal-powered planes}} do exist, although not in combination with jet engines.
+|Exit row seats come with additional responsibilities to help in the case of an emergency. These passengers' responsibility is to pedal, turning the propellers. It is not feasible for two passengers to contribute sufficient power to make a significant difference to that already supplied by the two equipped jet engines. {{w|Human-powered aircraft|Pedal-powered planes}} do exist, although not in combination with jet engines. However, the "must" might imply that they are controlling the engine, and peddling isn't enough to power such heavy aircraft.
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 |Extra legroom
 |Hanging off of front-left surface of the horizontal stabiliser
-|A common complaint with airplane seating is the lack of legroom. These seats do not have this problem – in fact, they have the entire atmosphere as legroom. Loss of shoes and/or glasses or other loose clothing could be an issue, as these seats appear to be outside the protection of the pressure-controlled main cabin, so passengers would bear the brunt of the wind.
+|A common complaint with airplane seating is the lack of legroom. These seats do not have this problem – in fact, they have the entire atmosphere as legroom. Loss of shoes and/or glasses or other loose clothing could be an issue, as these seats appear to be outside the protection of the pressure-controlled main cabin, so passengers would bear the brunt of the wind. Additionally, the experience would almost certainly be fatal, as shown by {{what if|64|this what if? article}}.
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 |Fighter escort

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 |Wings
 |Randall is making a joke about how an airplane’s wings could hypothetically be used as extra seating space, and how he is surprised that not many airlines are taking advantage of this. In reality the space inside the wings is minimal. It may hold fuel but there would be not the vertical room available, in most airframes, compared to the fuselage which can hold at least one floor of passengers as well as cargo/functional space below. The {{w|Junkers G.38}} was one airplane that had seating in the wing (and forward facing windows).
-If the seating was on the surface of the wing, passengers would constantly feel the effects of wind. Additionally, airplane wings are designed to allow more air to flow over the top in order for the plane to stay up. If airline companies actually utilized this idea, the plane could not be able to fly so well due to the air-resistance (and resulting turbulance) from the seating and the passengers would be having a ''really'' inconvenient time.
+If the seating was on the surface of the wing, passengers would constantly feel the effects of wind. Additionally, airplane wings are designed to allow more air to flow over the top in order for the plane to stay up. If airline companies actually utilized this idea, the plane could not be able to fly so well due to the air-resistance (and resulting turbulence) from the seating and the passengers would be having a ''really'' inconvenient time.
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 |Lookout

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 |Fighter escort
 |Separate, smaller plane
-|A smaller fighter jet flying alongside the main plane, apparently with seating options for 14 passengers. A few seats are at the front of the fighter, which means that those passengers may have to operate the jet if it's not autonomous.
+|A smaller fighter jet flying alongside the main plane, apparently with seating options for 14 passengers (most real military "fighter jets" only have one or two seats). A few seats are at the front of the fighter, which means that those passengers may have to operate the jet if it's not autonomous.
 A fighter escort would more normally be deployed to escort a plane that was considered a potential target, but not usually as a simple extension of the main flight.
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 |Tail gunners (Must protect plane from pursuers but earn extra miles)
 |Tail (riding above the stabiliser)
-|People in these seats must protect the plane from any pursuers. The fact that these people are passengers is clear from the incentive of extra air miles. {{w|Frequent-flyer program|Frequent-flyer programs}} are a common system that airlines implement where passengers can receive special awards for flying often. It's not uncommon for different fare classes to earn different amounts of miles, but the difference is traditionally due to price or class, not because of in-flight services rendered.
+|Rear-facing machine guns, or "Tail guns" were common in certain military aircraft during World War 2. People in these seats must protect the plane from any pursuers. The fact that these people are passengers is clear from the incentive of extra air miles. {{w|Frequent-flyer program|Frequent-flyer programs}} are a common system that airlines implement where passengers can receive special awards for flying often. It's not uncommon for different fare classes to earn different amounts of miles, but the difference is traditionally due to price or class, not because of in-flight services rendered.
 |}

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 |Main stage
-|rowspan="3"|{{w|First Class (aviation)|First Class}}
+|rowspan="3"|{{w|First class (aviation)|First Class}}
 |This plane is set up to hold a concert or other performance in flight.
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 |}
-The total of 182 seats on the plane is a similar amount to a typically equipped Boeing 737-800, a very popular passenger plane. Up to 7,000 are in use around the world for short-range and mid-range flights. A typical Boeing 737-800 with 189 seats has a one-class layout in the configuration of three blocks (port/amidships/starboard) with each row of each block having three seats (left/middle/right). A bit simpler than what's seen here.
+The total of 182 seats on the plane is a similar amount to a typically equipped Boeing 737-800, a very popular passenger plane. Up to 7,000 are in use around the world for short-range and mid-range flights. A typical Boeing 737-800 with 189 seats has a one-class layout in the configuration of two blocks (left and right) with each row of each block having three seats (left/middle/right). A bit simpler than what's seen here.
 The presence of lookouts, tail gunners and a fighter escort suggests that this plane expects to be a target of air-to-air attacks, which suggests it may be carrying VIPs and flying over uncontrolled airspace with the possibility of attack.