3012: The Future of Orion - Revision history

The-Ergster at 02:44, 2 December 2024

2024-12-02T02:44:18Z

TheusafBOT: Reverted edit 358082 by 172.71.218.183 to 357346

2024-11-28T04:07:31Z

Reverted edit 358082 by 172.71.218.183 to 357346

172.71.218.183 at 04:07, 28 November 2024

2024-11-28T04:07:25Z

162.158.74.69: Undo revision 357334 by The-Ergster (talk) It's a day old... probably not complete. Could do with a lot of editing, of course.

2024-11-19T22:11:58Z

Undo revision 357334 by The-Ergster (talk) It's a day old... probably not complete. Could do with a lot of editing, of course.

The-Ergster at 20:31, 19 November 2024

2024-11-19T20:31:17Z

172.68.186.134: /* Explanation */ ...aaaand... two grammatical agreements remade, missed during prior word-juggling/changing.

2024-11-19T12:56:59Z

‎Explanation: ...aaaand... two grammatical agreements remade, missed during prior word-juggling/changing.

172.68.186.134: /* Explanation */ Yeah, meant to differentiate one shoulder that shifted from missing Betelgeuse (to nearest remaining equivalent star) and the other shoulder moving 'up to the old neck/head', away from what became the upper base of the dino-tail.

2024-11-19T12:55:08Z

‎Explanation: Yeah, meant to differentiate one shoulder that shifted from missing Betelgeuse (to nearest remaining equivalent star) and the other shoulder moving 'up to the old neck/head', away from what became the upper base of the dino-tail.

172.71.26.37: /* Explanation */ ...further

2024-11-19T12:50:51Z

‎Explanation: ...further

172.68.186.25: /* Explanation */ Fixed a wikilink mis-contained, justified the 'kneeling' lower quadrilateral pose a bit more.

2024-11-19T12:47:22Z

‎Explanation: Fixed a wikilink mis-contained, justified the 'kneeling' lower quadrilateral pose a bit more.

172.69.194.99: /* Explanation */ Visualisation/equivalences.

2024-11-19T12:38:50Z

‎Explanation: Visualisation/equivalences.

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	Stars in the night sky sometimes change, occasionally varying in brightness, very rarely exploding, and imperceptibly moving. For example, {{w\|Betelgeuse}}, a star in the constellation {{w\|Orion (constellation)\|Orion}}, is expected to explode as a {{w\|supernova}} between [https://astrobites.org/2023/07/01/betelgeuse-betelgeuse-betelgeuse-is-it-supernovatime/ tens of] and [https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/betelgeuse-will-explode-someday/ a thousand] years, and then disappear from the night sky. And all stars move relative to us and each other, which results in apparent movement in the sky called {{w\|proper motion}}, a function of a star's relative movement in three dimensions and its distance from us.		Stars in the night sky sometimes change, occasionally varying in brightness, very rarely exploding, and imperceptibly moving. For example, {{w\|Betelgeuse}}, a star in the constellation {{w\|Orion (constellation)\|Orion}}, is expected to explode as a {{w\|supernova}} between [https://astrobites.org/2023/07/01/betelgeuse-betelgeuse-betelgeuse-is-it-supernovatime/ tens of] and [https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/betelgeuse-will-explode-someday/ a thousand] years, and then disappear from the night sky. And all stars move relative to us and each other, which results in apparent movement in the sky called {{w\|proper motion}}, a function of a star's relative movement in three dimensions and its distance from us.

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 Stars in the night sky sometimes change, occasionally varying in brightness, very rarely exploding, and imperceptibly moving. For example, {{w|Betelgeuse}}, a star in the constellation {{w|Orion (constellation)|Orion}}, is expected to explode as a {{w|supernova}} between [https://astrobites.org/2023/07/01/betelgeuse-betelgeuse-betelgeuse-is-it-supernovatime/ tens of] and [https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/betelgeuse-will-explode-someday/ a thousand] years, and then disappear from the night sky. And all stars move relative to us and each other, which results in apparent movement in the sky called {{w|proper motion}}, a function of a star's relative movement in three dimensions and its distance from us.

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 ==Explanation==
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 Stars in the night sky sometimes change, occasionally varying in brightness, very rarely exploding, and imperceptibly moving. For example, {{w|Betelgeuse}}, a star in the constellation {{w|Orion (constellation)|Orion}}, is expected to explode as a {{w|supernova}} between [https://astrobites.org/2023/07/01/betelgeuse-betelgeuse-betelgeuse-is-it-supernovatime/ tens of] and [https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/betelgeuse-will-explode-someday/ a thousand] years, and then disappear from the night sky. And all stars move relative to us and each other, which results in apparent movement in the sky called {{w|proper motion}}, a function of a star's relative movement in three dimensions and its distance from us.

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 This comic shows changes in Orion from Betelgeuse disappearing and three of its fastest moving stars, and recommends revising the {{w|constellation}} (or creating a new {{w|Asterism (astronomy)|asterism}}) from one which depicts a hunter to another matching a different hunter, the {{w|Tyrannosaurus}} from Ryan North's [https://www.qwantz.com Dinosaur Comics].
-Depending upon the artistic imagination of the observer, western (and northern-hemisphere) traditions may evoke the right 'string' of stars as either Orion's bow-arm holding a bow (perhaps having loosed an arrow towards {{w|Taurus (constellation)|Taurus, the Bull}}, with his off-arm raised aloft and behind having just released the bowstring) or else holding some creature he has caught/is fighting (with his off-arm, the other arm holding a raised club/sword that will strike the beast), with other astronomical traditions maybe 'recognising' various similar or different imageries according to their own cultural ideas (and perspective upon the constellation, e.g. from a southern orientation). In the form adjusted to match the "dinosaur comics" image, the rightmost group becomes the creature's tail and the upper-left maps to the open-jawed head and neck. The torso and legs (the latter sometimes depicted as leading only down to the kneeling Orion's knees, depending upon the imagined pose, hence the enclosed trapezoid of either his lower knee-length robe or from one lower leg crossing the ground, excusing the apparently anomolous leg-to-torso ratio that doesn't fit a hunting human quite as much as the depicted dinosaur) are essentially the same in both versions, but mirrored in sidelong profile, with the minor difference of both shoulders' position within the asterism, and the traditionally short and stubby T-Rex arms not be granted 'star arms' in their own right.
+Depending upon the artistic imagination of the observer, western (and northern-hemisphere) traditions may evoke the right 'string' of stars as either Orion's bow-arm holding a bow (perhaps having loosed an arrow towards {{w|Taurus (constellation)|Taurus, the Bull}}, with his off-arm raised aloft and behind having just released the bowstring) or else holding some creature he has caught/is fighting (with his off-arm, the other arm holding a raised club/sword that will strike the beast), with other astronomical traditions maybe 'recognising' various similar or different imageries according to their own cultural ideas (and perspective upon the constellation, e.g. from a southern orientation). In the form adjusted to match the "dinosaur comics" image, the rightmost group becomes the creature's tail and the upper-left maps to the open-jawed head and neck. The torso and legs (the latter sometimes depicted as leading only down to the kneeling Orion's knees, depending upon the imagined pose, hence the enclosed trapezoid of either his lower knee-length robe or from one lower leg crossing the ground, excusing the apparently anomolous leg-to-torso ratio that doesn't fit a hunting human quite as much as the depicted dinosaur) are essentially the same in both versions, but mirrored in sidelong profile, with the minor difference of both shoulders' positions within the asterism, and the traditionally short and stubby T-Rex arms not being granted 'star arms' in their own right.
 It should be noted that the main stars (but not the nebula) of {{w|Orion's Sword}} are drawn, but do not fit the dinosaur image in any way. In the original Orion constellation, they are rarely connected with the 'lines' of the constellation, but are matched against a sword (or its scabbard) when rendered as a more pictorial Orion. In the full dinosaur they match nothing from the image, but may be considered to be dripped saliva, discarded blood/torn flesh from whatever it might currently be eating or, perhaps (from its subpelvic position), other expelled material...

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 Stars in the night sky sometimes change, occasionally varying in brightness, very rarely exploding, and imperceptibly moving. For example, {{w|Betelgeuse}}, a star in the constellation {{w|Orion (constellation)|Orion}}, is expected to explode as a {{w|supernova}} between [https://astrobites.org/2023/07/01/betelgeuse-betelgeuse-betelgeuse-is-it-supernovatime/ tens of] and [https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/betelgeuse-will-explode-someday/ a thousand] years, and then disappear from the night sky. And all stars move relative to us and each other, which results in apparent movement in the sky called {{w|proper motion}}, a function of a star's relative movement in three dimensions and its distance from us.
-This comic shows changes in Orion from Betelgeuse disappearing and three of its fastest moving stars, and recommends revising the {{w|constellation}} (or creating a new {{w|Asterism (astronomy)|asterism}}) from one which depicts a hunter to another matching a different hunter, the {{w|Tyrannosaurus}} from Ryan North's [https://www.qwantz.com Dinosaur Comics]. It should be noted that {{w|Orion's Sword}} is drawn but does not fit inside the dinosaur. As it does in the original Orion constellation. Thus it seems this has been dropped from the Dinosaur. Saliva or worse...
+This comic shows changes in Orion from Betelgeuse disappearing and three of its fastest moving stars, and recommends revising the {{w|constellation}} (or creating a new {{w|Asterism (astronomy)|asterism}}) from one which depicts a hunter to another matching a different hunter, the {{w|Tyrannosaurus}} from Ryan North's [https://www.qwantz.com Dinosaur Comics].
-The proper motion of {{w|Chi1 Orionis|χ¹ Orionis}} shown near the top at the end of Orion's arm (and the back of the dinosaur's head) is 0.20 arcseconds per year, so it will traverse the depicted angular distance of 0.84 degrees in about 15,000 years. {{w|Pi1 Orionis|π¹ Orionis}} at the top of Orion's bow (and the end of the dinosaur's tail) has a proper motion of 0.14 arcseconds per year, so it will traverse its distance of 0.87° in about 23,000 years. However, with a proper motion of 0.46 as/yr, {{w|Pi3 Orionis|π³ Orionis}}, in the middle of the bow, will take only about 9,600 years to traverse its longer depicted distance of 1.24°. (The angular distances traversed by the stars were measured relative to the distance between Orion's two outermost belt stars, {{w|Alnitak}} and {{w|Mintaka}}, the dinosaur's hips.) Thus, the new constellation won't form until its current name has lasted more than three times as long as it already has.
+Depending upon the artistic imagination of the observer, western (and northern-hemisphere) traditions may evoke the right 'string' of stars as either Orion's bow-arm holding a bow (perhaps having loosed an arrow towards {{w|Taurus (constellation)|Taurus, the Bull, with his off-arm raised aloft and behind having just released the bowstring) or else holding some creature he has caught/is fighting (with his off-arm, the other arm holding a raised club/sword that will strike the beast), with other astronomical traditions maybe 'recognising' various similar or different imageries according to their own cultural ideas (and perspective upon the constellation, e.g. from a southern orientation). In the form adjusted to match the "dinosaur comics" image, the rightmost group becomes the creature's tail and the upper-left maps to the open-jawed head and neck. The torso and legs (the latter sometimes depicted as leading only down to the kneeling Orion's knees, depending upon the imagined pose) are essentially the same in both versions, but mirrored in sidelong profile, with the minor difference of one shoulder's position within the asterism, and the traditionally short and stubby T-Rex arms not be granted 'star arms' in their own right.
 [[File:School of Athens Raphael detail 03.jpg|thumb|Hipparchus and Ptolemy compare globes in {{w|Raphael}}'s famous fresco ''{{w|The School of Athens}}''. Ptolemy is shown with a crown because of his erroneous association with the royal house of Ptolemaic Egypt.]]