3069: Terror Bird - Revision history

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 Members of the large prehistoric family of birds {{w|Phorusrhacidae}} are often known colloquially as "terror birds", which could also be described as "big birds", similar to the "Big Bird" character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. [[Hairy]] implies to [[Jill]] that the character Big Bird is really meant to be based on the extinct terror birds and therefore should be made to be scarier if the writers of Sesame Street were to be realistic.
-The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species. Initially, likely due to his color, he was thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}}.<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref>  He has more recently been placed in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.
+The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species. Initially, likely due to his color, he was thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}}. He has more recently been placed in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.
 The comic implies that the Big Bird species is extinct. This could be a reference to current events (there was a Congressional [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/business/media/pbs-npr-congressional-hearing.html hearing] March 26, 2025 in which one of the topics was whether funding for PBS would be reduced or eliminated). It is worth mentioning, though, that Sesame Street is not directly owned by PBS, but rather by [https://sesameworkshop.org/ Sesame Workshop] which is itself a 501(c)(3) organization.
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 :Hairy: Wow.
 :Hairy: Now that we know how scary they were, do you think Sesame Street will update him?
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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==
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	Members of the large prehistoric family of birds {{w\|Phorusrhacidae}} are often known colloquially as "terror birds", which could also be described as "big birds", similar to the "Big Bird" character from {{w\|Sesame Street}}. [[Hairy]] implies to [[Jill]] that the character Big Bird is really meant to be based on the extinct terror birds and therefore should be made to be scarier if the writers of Sesame Street were to be realistic.		Members of the large prehistoric family of birds {{w\|Phorusrhacidae}} are often known colloquially as "terror birds", which could also be described as "big birds", similar to the "Big Bird" character from {{w\|Sesame Street}}. [[Hairy]] implies to [[Jill]] that the character Big Bird is really meant to be based on the extinct terror birds and therefore should be made to be scarier if the writers of Sesame Street were to be realistic.

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 {{incomplete|The explanation is not a transcript. Need to actually explain the comic, not describe the scene.}}
-This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil skeleton of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, which is a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud about {{w|Big Bird}} (as becomes clear in the title text), a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. He suggests that he must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, and therefore more scary. However Big Bird, being from a show for little kids, was never intended to be a terror bird and would almost certainly never be made to look scary.
+Members of the large prehistoric family of birds {{w|Phorusrhacidae}} are often known colloquially as "terror birds", which could also be described as "big birds", similar to the "Big Bird" character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. [[Hairy]] implies to [[Jill]] that the character Big Bird is really meant to be based on the extinct terror birds and therefore should be made to be scarier if the writers of Sesame Street were to be realistic.
 The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species. Initially, likely due to his color, he was thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}}.<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref>  He has more recently been placed in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.
-The comic implies that the Big Bird species is extinct. This is could be a reference to current events (there was a Congressional [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/business/media/pbs-npr-congressional-hearing.html hearing] March 26, 2025 in which one of the topics was whether funding for PBS would be reduced or eliminated). It is worth mentioning, though, that Sesame Street is not directly owned by PBS, but rather by [https://sesameworkshop.org/ Sesame Workshop] which is itself a 501(c)(3) organization.
+The comic implies that the Big Bird species is extinct. This could be a reference to current events (there was a Congressional [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/business/media/pbs-npr-congressional-hearing.html hearing] March 26, 2025 in which one of the topics was whether funding for PBS would be reduced or eliminated). It is worth mentioning, though, that Sesame Street is not directly owned by PBS, but rather by [https://sesameworkshop.org/ Sesame Workshop] which is itself a 501(c)(3) organization.
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 {{incomplete|The explanation is not a transcript. Need to actually explain the comic, not describe the scene.}}
-This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil skeleton of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, which is a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud about Sesame Street's {{w|Big Bird}} (as becomes clear in the title text), a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. He suggests that he must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, and therefore more scary. However Big Bird, being from a show for little kids, was never intended to be a terror bird and would almost certainly never be made to look scary.
+This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil skeleton of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, which is a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud about {{w|Big Bird}} (as becomes clear in the title text), a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. He suggests that he must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, and therefore more scary. However Big Bird, being from a show for little kids, was never intended to be a terror bird and would almost certainly never be made to look scary.
 The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species. Initially, likely due to his color, he was thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}}.<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref>  He has more recently been placed in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.

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 {{incomplete|The explanation is not a transcript. Need to actually explain the comic, not describe the scene.}}
-This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil skeleton of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, which is a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud about {{w|Big Bird}} (as becomes clear in the title text), a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. He suggests that he must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, and therefore more scary. However Big Bird, being from a show for little kids, was never intended to be a terror bird and would almost certainly never be made to look scary.
+This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil skeleton of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, which is a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud about Sesame Street's {{w|Big Bird}} (as becomes clear in the title text), a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}. He suggests that he must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, and therefore more scary. However Big Bird, being from a show for little kids, was never intended to be a terror bird and would almost certainly never be made to look scary.
 The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species. Initially, likely due to his color, he was thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}}.<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref>  He has more recently been placed in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.

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 The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species: initially thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}},<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref> likely due to his color, he has more recently been placed in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.
-The comic implies that the Big Bird species is extinct.  This is could be a reference to current events (there was a Congressional [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/business/media/pbs-npr-congressional-hearing.html hearing] March 26, 2025 in which one of the topics was whether funding for PBS would be reduced or eliminated).  Though, it is worth mentioning that Sesame Street has not been owned by PBS since 2016, when it was sold to HBO.
+The comic implies that the Big Bird species is extinct.  This is could be a reference to current events (there was a Congressional [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/business/media/pbs-npr-congressional-hearing.html hearing] March 26, 2025 in which one of the topics was whether funding for PBS would be reduced or eliminated).  Though, it is worth mentioning that Sesame Street is not directly owned by PBS, but rather by [https://sesameworkshop.org/ Sesame Workshop] which is itself a 501(c)(3) organization.
 ==Transcript==

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	The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species: initially thought to be a {{w\|Yellow canary\|canary}},<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref> likely due to his color, he has more recently been placed in the order {{w\|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w\|Seriema\|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w\|whooping crane}}.		The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species: initially thought to be a {{w\|Yellow canary\|canary}},<ref>Borgenicht, David. ''Sesame Street Unpaved: Scripts, Stories, Secrets and Songs''. Hyperion Press, 1998.</ref> likely due to his color, he has more recently been placed in the order {{w\|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w\|Seriema\|seriemas}}, modern-day birds also in the Cariamiformes, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w\|whooping crane}}.
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		+	The comic implies that the Big Bird species is extinct. This is could be a reference to current events (there was a Congressional [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/business/media/pbs-npr-congressional-hearing.html hearing] March 26, 2025 in which one of the topics was whether funding for PBS would be reduced or eliminated). Though, it is worth mentioning that Sesame Street has not been owned by PBS since 2016, when it was sold to HBO.

	==Transcript==		==Transcript==

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 {{incomplete|The exaplanation is not a transcript. Need to actually explain the comic, not describe the scene.}}
-This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, i.e. the skeleton of a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud that {{w|Big Bird}}, a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}, must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, i.e. more scary. Big Bird, however, being from a show for little kids, would almost certainly never be made to look scary, and also, he was never intended to be a terror bird. That it is Big Bird that he is thinking of becomes clear in the title text.
+This comic is a scene of two people, [[Jill]] and [[Hairy]], at a museum looking at a fossil of a large prehistoric {{w|Phorusrhacidae|terror bird}}, i.e. the skeleton of a "big bird". [[Hairy]] thinks out loud that {{w|Big Bird}}, a Muppet character from {{w|Sesame Street}}, must be a terror bird, and wonders whether he will be updated to be more scientifically accurate, i.e. more scary. Big Bird, however, being from a show for little kids, would almost certainly never be made to look scary, and also, he was never intended to be a terror bird. It becomes clear that Hairy is thinking of Big Bird in the title text.
 The title text claims that there is ongoing scientific debate about Big Bird's species; initially, he was thought to be a {{w|Yellow canary|canary}}, likely due to his color, but scientists have placed him in the order {{w|Cariamiformes}}, which the terror birds belong to. This text is likely intended to mirror what somebody might say about the {{w|Seriema|seriemas}}, which are modern-day birds believed to have evolved from the terror bird, as if Big Bird were the descendant of these birds, in addition to or instead of seriemas. [https://www.pechakucha.com/presentations/what-if-anything-is-big-bird Actual scientific analysis] seems to suggest that Big Bird is in fact related to the {{w|whooping crane}}.