Talk:1129: Cell Number - Revision history

The Cat Lady at 20:26, 19 September 2021

2021-09-19T20:26:48Z

162.158.74.9: discuss the exchange code limitation somewhat thoroughly. does Dangerkeith3000 still not understand???

2019-04-13T08:13:23Z

discuss the exchange code limitation somewhat thoroughly. does Dangerkeith3000 still not understand???

162.158.79.65: Let's just say, I'm adding evidence against this guy's claim, Make sure to edit

2018-10-16T17:57:00Z

Let's just say, I'm adding evidence against this guy's claim, Make sure to edit

Weatherlawyer at 15:56, 15 January 2015

2015-01-15T15:56:54Z

Jerodast: /* Bloated explanation */ Numbering information that was removed from Explanation is recorded here

2012-12-22T17:44:16Z

‎Bloated explanation: Numbering information that was removed from Explanation is recorded here

Jerodast: /* Handi phones */ Changing terminology to "mobile" across the board

2012-12-22T17:37:14Z

‎Handi phones: Changing terminology to "mobile" across the board

Jerodast: /* Bloated explanation */ Retroactive signature

2012-12-22T16:13:01Z

‎Bloated explanation: Retroactive signature

Davidy22 at 00:39, 4 December 2012

2012-12-04T00:39:53Z

Jerodast: Warned of intent to overhaul the currently bloated explanation

2012-12-03T16:01:10Z

Warned of intent to overhaul the currently bloated explanation

Dangerkeith3000 at 18:08, 7 November 2012

2012-11-07T18:08:06Z

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	*the final 4 digits (Subscriber Number) can be [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].		*the final 4 digits (Subscriber Number) can be [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].
	There are [http://www.nanpa.com/area_codes/index.html some rules] for area code exceptions or reserved numbers though. Specifically, X11 codes are not valid as area codes (e.g. 411, 911, etc...) and Xyy (repeated last 2 digits) codes are reserved for special use area codes (e.g. toll-free/freephone 800, 888, etc..). [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 17:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)		There are [http://www.nanpa.com/area_codes/index.html some rules] for area code exceptions or reserved numbers though. Specifically, X11 codes are not valid as area codes (e.g. 411, 911, etc...) and Xyy (repeated last 2 digits) codes are reserved for special use area codes (e.g. toll-free/freephone 800, 888, etc..). [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 17:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
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		+	I've had the same mobile number for twenty-two years. [[User:The Cat Lady\|-- The Cat Lady]] ([[User talk:The Cat Lady\|talk]]) 20:26, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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 ::: I see. The "Prior to the proliferation of cell/mobile/handy phones..." stated in the first paragraph sets it up as historical numbering (i.e. rules prior to 1990) and not the current rules. It has been reordered very well to make more sense (at least to me!).
 :::: My exchange number is 407, Now where'd you get that info again? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.65|162.158.79.65]] 17:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 I guess this has something to do with keeping your phone number even when switching providers? We got a law in Norway around that time, which says you're able to keep your phone number while switching. Only difference is that here you can only tell, from the first two of eight digits, which ''provider'' you had in 2005 (or whenever it took effect). --[[User:Buggz|Buggz]] ([[User talk:Buggz|talk]]) 08:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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 :: I reordered some paragraphss so that hopefully it makes more sense: the first paragraph sets up the history; the third paragraph reflects current reality; the second is the transition. -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 05:16, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 ::: I see. The "Prior to the proliferation of cell/mobile/handy phones..." stated in the first paragraph sets it up as historical numbering (i.e. rules prior to 1990) and not the current rules. It has been reordered very well to make more sense (at least to me!).
 I guess this has something to do with keeping your phone number even when switching providers? We got a law in Norway around that time, which says you're able to keep your phone number while switching. Only difference is that here you can only tell, from the first two of eight digits, which ''provider'' you had in 2005 (or whenever it took effect). --[[User:Buggz|Buggz]] ([[User talk:Buggz|talk]]) 08:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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 :In the US, our cars kind of do have a postal address -- the state they are titled & registered in, the same state emblazoned on the license plate in the back (and sometimes the front also).  However, the states don't like it when you operate an "out-of-state" car in their territory for too long.  Specifically, you are using public roads that you are not paying for.  Then, when you transfer title and are assigned a new plate, you get a new letter/number combination.  License plates -- and specifically the random ID (or "vanity plate" custom ID) they hold -- are not portable between states. --BigMal27 / [[Special:Contributions/192.136.15.149|192.136.15.149]] 15:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 ::In the past, in Italy you had to do the same when you moved from one province to another. Now, if you move, you pay car taxes to a different province, but your license plate stays the same. At the time, the province code was part of the license number, now it isn't anymore. If you have an old plate with a province code, you keep it even if you move.
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 I'm 34 and live in the USA and it still took me a while to understand this.  The 2005 date is because even though the portability law was passed in 2003, it was still difficult to do and not very common to keep you number until 2005.
 == Handi phones ==

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	:Quite a few explanations are like that. People add things that seem relevant to them, but don't really help explain the comic. If you look at most of the explanations past the 1050 mark, quite a few of them aren't perfect. If you want to tighten them up, by all means do so. [[User:Davidy22\|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22\|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)		:Quite a few explanations are like that. People add things that seem relevant to them, but don't really help explain the comic. If you look at most of the explanations past the 1050 mark, quite a few of them aren't perfect. If you want to tighten them up, by all means do so. [[User:Davidy22\|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22\|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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		+	==Additional Info on Phone Numbering Systems==
		+	I trimmed a lot of unnecessary information from the explanation, because it had nothing to do with explaining the joke of the comic. For those parties looking for more information on phone numbering plans, here is what I removed:
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		+	*The middle digit of the area code was originally always 0 or 1 to allow mechanical dialing circuits to identify the sequence as an area code or not.
		+	*The next three digits are the exchange number (the middle digit being always 2 or higher), and the final four digits are typically random.
		+	*Business customers frequently could pay a premium for a specific number (if available), either to spell a brief slogan, or for easy memorization.
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		+	The prevalence of digitally controlled dialing allowed the restrictions on digits in area codes and exchanges to be relaxed, suddenly making many new area codes and exchanges available. According to the {{w\|North American Numbering Plan}}, currently:
		+	*The first 3 digits (Area Code) can be [2-9][0-9][0-9],
		+	*the next 3 digits (Exchange) can be [2-9][0-9][0-9], and
		+	*the final 4 digits (Subscriber Number) can be [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].
		+	There are [http://www.nanpa.com/area_codes/index.html some rules] for area code exceptions or reserved numbers though. Specifically, X11 codes are not valid as area codes (e.g. 411, 911, etc...) and Xyy (repeated last 2 digits) codes are reserved for special use area codes (e.g. toll-free/freephone 800, 888, etc..). [[User:Jerodast\|- jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast\|talk]]) 17:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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 ::But we write it "Handy" ("Handi" (with a german "i") is how you speak it – the letter "y" can be a "i"- or a "ü"-sound in German). --[[User:DaB.|DaB.]] ([[User talk:DaB.|talk]]) 16:32, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 :::I stand corrected, then... -- [[User:IronyChef|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef|talk]]) 04:36, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 == Bloated explanation ==

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 == Bloated explanation ==
-There is a lot of information about the structure of US phone numbers here, and while general information is good to set up the joke, the specifics can be left to the wikipedia article. Specifically, all the talk of how exchanges are numbered and long distance charges is utterly irrelevant to the strip, and the information about choosing custom numbers is relevant only to the title text (and takes about one line to explain). The meat of the joke is that area codes used to be location-based but rapidly became more flexible around 2005, resulting in that rather arbitrary meaning today, yet this is mentioned almost casually in just one sentence near the end. I will trim and reorder the article so that it's more relevant to the comic shortly, unless there are objections.
+There is a lot of information about the structure of US phone numbers here, and while general information is good to set up the joke, the specifics can be left to the wikipedia article. Specifically, all the talk of how exchanges are numbered and long distance charges is utterly irrelevant to the strip, and the information about choosing custom numbers is relevant only to the title text (and takes about one line to explain). The meat of the joke is that area codes used to be location-based but rapidly became more flexible around 2005, resulting in that rather arbitrary meaning today, yet this is mentioned almost casually in just one sentence near the end. I will trim and reorder the article so that it's more relevant to the comic shortly, unless there are objections. - [[User:Jerodast|jerodast]] ([[User talk:Jerodast|talk]]) 11:01, December 3, 2012
 :Quite a few explanations are like that. People add things that seem relevant to them, but don't really help explain the comic. If you look at most of the explanations past the 1050 mark, quite a few of them aren't perfect. If you want to tighten them up, by all means do so. [[User:Davidy22|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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	== Bloated explanation ==		== Bloated explanation ==
		+	There is a lot of information about the structure of US phone numbers here, and while general information is good to set up the joke, the specifics can be left to the wikipedia article. Specifically, all the talk of how exchanges are numbered and long distance charges is utterly irrelevant to the strip, and the information about choosing custom numbers is relevant only to the title text (and takes about one line to explain). The meat of the joke is that area codes used to be location-based but rapidly became more flexible around 2005, resulting in that rather arbitrary meaning today, yet this is mentioned almost casually in just one sentence near the end. I will trim and reorder the article so that it's more relevant to the comic shortly, unless there are objections.

−	~~There is~~ a ~~lot of information about the structure of US phone numbers here, and while general information is good~~ to ~~set up the joke~~, the ~~specifics can be left to the wikipedia article~~. ~~Specifically, all~~ the ~~talk of how exchanges are numbered and long distance charges is utterly irrelevant to~~ the ~~strip~~, ~~and the information about choosing custom numbers is relevant only to the title text (and takes about one line to explain)~~. ~~The meat of the joke is that area codes used~~ to ~~be location-based but rapidly became more flexible around 2005~~, ~~resulting in that rather arbitrary meaning today, yet this is mentioned almost casually in just one sentence near the end~~. I ~~will trim and reorder the article so that it's more relevant to the comic shortly~~, ~~unless there are objections.~~	+	:Quite a few explanations are like that. People add things that seem relevant to them, but don't really help explain the comic. If you look at most of the explanations past the 1050 mark, quite a few of them aren't perfect. If you want to tighten them up, by all means do so. [[User:Davidy22\|<span title="I want you."><u><font color="purple" size="2px">David</font><font color="green" size="3px">y</font></u><sup><font color="indigo" size="1px">22</font></sup></span>]][[User talk:Davidy22\|<tt>[talk]</tt>]] 00:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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	::But we write it "Handy" ("Handi" (with a german "i") is how you speak it – the letter "y" can be a "i"- or a "ü"-sound in German). --[[User:DaB.\|DaB.]] ([[User talk:DaB.\|talk]]) 16:32, 3 November 2012 (UTC)		::But we write it "Handy" ("Handi" (with a german "i") is how you speak it – the letter "y" can be a "i"- or a "ü"-sound in German). --[[User:DaB.\|DaB.]] ([[User talk:DaB.\|talk]]) 16:32, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
	:::I stand corrected, then... -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 04:36, 4 November 2012 (UTC)		:::I stand corrected, then... -- [[User:IronyChef\|IronyChef]] ([[User talk:IronyChef\|talk]]) 04:36, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Bloated explanation ==
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		+	There is a lot of information about the structure of US phone numbers here, and while general information is good to set up the joke, the specifics can be left to the wikipedia article. Specifically, all the talk of how exchanges are numbered and long distance charges is utterly irrelevant to the strip, and the information about choosing custom numbers is relevant only to the title text (and takes about one line to explain). The meat of the joke is that area codes used to be location-based but rapidly became more flexible around 2005, resulting in that rather arbitrary meaning today, yet this is mentioned almost casually in just one sentence near the end. I will trim and reorder the article so that it's more relevant to the comic shortly, unless there are objections.