Talk:1174: App - Revision history

172.69.79.185 at 21:16, 10 February 2023

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Schmurr at 19:58, 10 February 2023

2023-02-10T19:58:48Z

Lupo: added comment and removed section

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198.41.231.135: Added siggy

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198.41.231.135 at 00:16, 13 October 2019

2019-10-13T00:16:22Z

141.101.98.240 at 07:57, 4 November 2013

2013-11-04T07:57:50Z

24.51.197.187: XKCD's unexpected life's lessons.

2013-02-27T19:17:52Z

XKCD's unexpected life's lessons.

31.149.167.100 at 13:08, 19 February 2013

2013-02-19T13:08:33Z

Hkmaly at 09:35, 18 February 2013

2013-02-18T09:35:20Z

85.1.36.208: Chainsaw Suit ref

2013-02-15T17:08:01Z

Chainsaw Suit ref

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	It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.		It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.
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		+	Related, I stopped using the BBC News App because part way through last year it insisted I use an account to access it (I now just view the BBC website). The BBC Weather App is now also starting to tell me that I will need an account (the same account, that I just don't feel like getting), so no doubt I will keep a tab open in my mobile browser for ''that'', too, at some point.
		+	<br />I've been using the News/Weather Apps, on successive devices, for maybe a decade and they have worked perfectly well without needing any account-linking... Though the Weather App started to lose the ability to remember more than five locations at a time, without the login, which is a purely a designed-in reduction of functionality that has no technical necessity other than becoming more PesterWare to promote... something to do with branding/enhanced exploitation of user-profiles? Which I'm happy enough to do pasively (device-id, usual stuff) but I'll be darned if I'll actively help them. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.185\|172.69.79.185]] 21:16, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
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	;What can we learn from this?		;What can we learn from this?

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	Chainsaw Suit also made almost the same joke: http://chainsawsuit.com/2013/01/23/view-the-desktop-version-of-this-site/		Chainsaw Suit also made almost the same joke: http://chainsawsuit.com/2013/01/23/view-the-desktop-version-of-this-site/
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		+	:It's been moved here: https://chainsawsuit.krisstraub.com/20130123.shtml [[User:Schmurr\|Schmurr]] ([[User talk:Schmurr\|talk]]) 19:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

	It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.		It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.

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 It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.
-==What can we learn from this?==
+;What can we learn from this?
 I've learned that there are a billion things in the world that still need to be improved and sometimes if you seeking inspirations for new inventions they sometimes stare you right in the face (Thank you Mr. XKCD). Software engineers among us, lets help them improve their designs and avoid their mistakes ok? - e-inspired [[Special:Contributions/24.51.197.187|24.51.197.187]] 19:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 :I have been heavily influenced by Randall's view on the browser vs mobile dichotomy, (https://xkcd.com/1367/ this being his best showerthought) but I have come to realize that native apps are a genuinely better product than any webpage can be. The fact that apps don't have zoom is a feature, who wants to zoom to a picture, then pan to a scroll bar to move down and then go back to the picture column. Mobile has caught up in terms of UX and product quality, the reason Randall was initially skeptical is because he was born and raised in an internet generation where the best products and users had keyboards and browsers.-- Tomás [[Special:Contributions/198.41.231.135|198.41.231.135]] 00:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

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 ==What can we learn from this?==
 I've learned that there are a billion things in the world that still need to be improved and sometimes if you seeking inspirations for new inventions they sometimes stare you right in the face (Thank you Mr. XKCD). Software engineers among us, lets help them improve their designs and avoid their mistakes ok? - e-inspired [[Special:Contributions/24.51.197.187|24.51.197.187]] 19:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
-:I have been heavily influenced by Randall's view on the browser vs mobile dichotomy, (https://xkcd.com/1367/ this being his best showerthought) but I have come to realize that native apps are a genuinely better product than any webpage can be. The fact that apps don't have zoom is a feature, who wants to zoom to a picture, then pan to a scroll bar to move down and then go back to the picture column. Mobile has caught up in terms of UX and product quality, the reason Randall was initially skeptical is because he was born and raised in an internet generation where the best products and users had keyboards and browsers.
+:I have been heavily influenced by Randall's view on the browser vs mobile dichotomy, (https://xkcd.com/1367/ this being his best showerthought) but I have come to realize that native apps are a genuinely better product than any webpage can be. The fact that apps don't have zoom is a feature, who wants to zoom to a picture, then pan to a scroll bar to move down and then go back to the picture column. Mobile has caught up in terms of UX and product quality, the reason Randall was initially skeptical is because he was born and raised in an internet generation where the best products and users had keyboards and browsers.-- Tomás [[Special:Contributions/198.41.231.135|198.41.231.135]] 00:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

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	==What can we learn from this?==		==What can we learn from this?==
	I've learned that there are a billion things in the world that still need to be improved and sometimes if you seeking inspirations for new inventions they sometimes stare you right in the face (Thank you Mr. XKCD). Software engineers among us, lets help them improve their designs and avoid their mistakes ok? - e-inspired [[Special:Contributions/24.51.197.187\|24.51.197.187]] 19:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)		I've learned that there are a billion things in the world that still need to be improved and sometimes if you seeking inspirations for new inventions they sometimes stare you right in the face (Thank you Mr. XKCD). Software engineers among us, lets help them improve their designs and avoid their mistakes ok? - e-inspired [[Special:Contributions/24.51.197.187\|24.51.197.187]] 19:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:I have been heavily influenced by Randall's view on the browser vs mobile dichotomy, (https://xkcd.com/1367/ this being his best showerthought) but I have come to realize that native apps are a genuinely better product than any webpage can be. The fact that apps don't have zoom is a feature, who wants to zoom to a picture, then pan to a scroll bar to move down and then go back to the picture column. Mobile has caught up in terms of UX and product quality, the reason Randall was initially skeptical is because he was born and raised in an internet generation where the best products and users had keyboards and browsers.

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	::: It may be seen as hacking now. But removing ads from websites was also seen as hacking until ad blockers becamed fully automated and popular. If those overlays becomes anoying enough, someone will code extension to get rid of them. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 09:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)		::: It may be seen as hacking now. But removing ads from websites was also seen as hacking until ad blockers becamed fully automated and popular. If those overlays becomes anoying enough, someone will code extension to get rid of them. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 09:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	::::Most mobile browsers don't support extensions, but you COULD disable JavaScript before viewing the page then re enabling it after.
		+	[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.240\|141.101.98.240]] 07:57, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
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	prompting mobile views = prompting people viewing the website from a mobile browser ("mobile views" is web designer terminology, not mainstream speech) {{unsigned\|195.130.121.48}}		prompting mobile views = prompting people viewing the website from a mobile browser ("mobile views" is web designer terminology, not mainstream speech) {{unsigned\|195.130.121.48}}

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	It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.		It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.
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		+	==What can we learn from this?==
		+	I've learned that there are a billion things in the world that still need to be improved and sometimes if you seeking inspirations for new inventions they sometimes stare you right in the face (Thank you Mr. XKCD). Software engineers among us, lets help them improve their designs and avoid their mistakes ok? - e-inspired [[Special:Contributions/24.51.197.187\|24.51.197.187]] 19:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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	Chainsaw Suit also made almost the same joke: http://chainsawsuit.com/2013/01/23/view-the-desktop-version-of-this-site/		Chainsaw Suit also made almost the same joke: http://chainsawsuit.com/2013/01/23/view-the-desktop-version-of-this-site/
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		+	It reminds me very much of the way tapatalk-enabled forums act. They keep prompting you to use the app, which - if you have the app - will not open the page you were on.

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 :By "in no way viewable" you mean mobile browsers don't support editing page's DOM like Chrome does out of the box and Firefox do with FireBug extension? (Try pressing F12). Not to speaking about the javascript-in-location-bar tricks someone already started posting on the blog post you mentioned. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 09:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 :: I was talking about how the website is done by design. Since the whole page is downloaded you can of course start "hacking" your way through to the content, but that's besides the point. --[[User:Buggz|Buggz]] ([[User talk:Buggz|talk]]) 11:00, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 prompting mobile views = prompting people viewing the website from a mobile browser ("mobile views" is web designer terminology, not mainstream speech) {{unsigned|195.130.121.48}}

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	::Seems like [[User:Spongebog\|Spongebog]] did actually. - [[User:Cos\|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos\|talk]]) 11:49, 15 February 2013 (UTC)		::Seems like [[User:Spongebog\|Spongebog]] did actually. - [[User:Cos\|Cos]] ([[User talk:Cos\|talk]]) 11:49, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	Chainsaw Suit also made almost the same joke: http://chainsawsuit.com/2013/01/23/view-the-desktop-version-of-this-site/