Talk:1195: Flowchart - Revision history

108.162.212.59: Added a comment, suggesting another interpretation.

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Added a comment, suggesting another interpretation.

Peter at 11:20, 17 July 2013

2013-07-17T11:20:25Z

Excrubulent at 05:34, 13 April 2013

2013-04-13T05:34:00Z

TobyBartels: Two edit explanations.

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Two edit explanations.

178.70.77.150: upd

2013-04-07T15:42:01Z

upd

50.143.22.159 at 23:27, 6 April 2013

2013-04-06T23:27:17Z

50.143.22.159 at 12:11, 6 April 2013

2013-04-06T12:11:01Z

Bplimley at 05:07, 6 April 2013

2013-04-06T05:07:18Z

31.111.77.19: Opinion

2013-04-05T17:26:57Z

Opinion

76.106.251.87 at 15:54, 5 April 2013

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	careful guys, there is potential for another infinite loop. apparently you need a box to make you get a marker. and you need a marker to make a box ... [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)		careful guys, there is potential for another infinite loop. apparently you need a box to make you get a marker. and you need a marker to make a box ... [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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		+	Hang on, if you didn't have a marker to begin with, there would be no marker to draw the loop with, and therefore no loop to get stuck in. Right? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.59\|108.162.212.59]] 22:27, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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	Guys, I've discovered a serious flaw in the proposed solution. I got a marker and drew the extra boxes, but then I scrolled the web page and reset the zoom level. I can't get the boxes to line up anymore! This is bad; I'd do it in Photoshop but I've already entered the loop! Halp! [[User:Excrubulent\|Excrubulent]] ([[User talk:Excrubulent\|talk]]) 05:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)		Guys, I've discovered a serious flaw in the proposed solution. I got a marker and drew the extra boxes, but then I scrolled the web page and reset the zoom level. I can't get the boxes to line up anymore! This is bad; I'd do it in Photoshop but I've already entered the loop! Halp! [[User:Excrubulent\|Excrubulent]] ([[User talk:Excrubulent\|talk]]) 05:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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		+	careful guys, there is potential for another infinite loop. apparently you need a box to make you get a marker. and you need a marker to make a box ... [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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 :If it is between the hours of 8:00 and 5:00, then I can escape, but that is only 37.5% of my day. Doomed, for all eternity. The solution proffered has the problem of the chicken and egg, how does one add get a marker if one does not have one.  I like Hkmaly's idea... but proposes the additional questions of how: purchase, loot, or created. Each with their own rabbit trails to follow, ending in the pour house, prison, or crushed under the weight of the markers (mater being created?)  But I feel there is a market to the other six billion inhabitants of earth that can be exploited. & Would Vulcans be more susceptible to entering into this loop than humans. [[Special:Contributions/24.106.78.38|24.106.78.38]] 10:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC) Drifter
 :Straw Vulcans would be, certainly. [[Special:Contributions/76.106.251.87|76.106.251.87]] 15:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
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 I added a transcript using some flowchart markup that I find at [http://flomojo.com/ FloMojo].  (Past transcripts in this category have used a variety of methods.)  —[[User:TobyBartels|TobyBartels]] ([[User talk:TobyBartels|talk]]) 19:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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 I think the currently provided explanation is not right. Randall wants us to get a marker BEFORE we get to 'start', hence the phrasing "between you and 'start'" (and not "between 'start' and 'Hey, wait, ...'"). That way when we get to the start, we already have a marker friend to aid us in our infinite quest. Or, perhaps, in other words, to stop being computerized sheep that follow set rules, but rather find an alternative solution ;) I'm new here, so I'll let somebody else edit the explanation if you deem it appropriate... [[User:Blue Charizard|Blue Charizard]] ([[User talk:Blue Charizard|talk]]) 13:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 Maybe Randall just wants us to change the algorithmic loop that we get into when we enter the flowchart and create a paradox to kill the Weeping Angels. [[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] ([[User talk:Milar Kayne|talk]]) 14:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
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 I see three boxes in this XKCD comic (third is quarter hidden by logic). I thought that we were suppose to be learning how to think outside the box in school... - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159|50.143.22.159]] 12:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 :Perhaps the third box can be called life, should we really spend it paying outrageous prices for higher education? - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159|50.143.22.159]] 23:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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 After staring at the title text for a few minutes, I have another interpretation. You're already stuck in the loop. If there had been a box between "Start" and "Hey, wait" which said "Get marker", then you would have a marker already. If you suspend your logic for a moment to write the "Get marker", then afterwards your situation is self-consistent, because you already passed that point in the flowchart and you now have a marker with which you wrote it. (Well, sort of self-consistent.) ...Does that make sense to anyone besides me? [[User:Bplimley|Bplimley]] ([[User talk:Bplimley|talk]]) 05:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 I see three boxes in this XKCD comic (third is quarter hidden by logic). I thought that we were suppose to be learning how to think outside the box in school... - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159|50.143.22.159]] 12:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 :Perhaps the third box can be called life, should we really spend it paying outrageous prices for higher education? - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159|50.143.22.159]] 23:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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	I see three boxes in this XKCD comic (third is quarter hidden by logic). I thought that we were suppose to be learning how to think outside the box in school... - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159\|50.143.22.159]] 12:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)		I see three boxes in this XKCD comic (third is quarter hidden by logic). I thought that we were suppose to be learning how to think outside the box in school... - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159\|50.143.22.159]] 12:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
		+	:Perhaps the third box can be called life, should we really spend it paying outrageous prices for higher education? - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159\|50.143.22.159]] 23:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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	After staring at the title text for a few minutes, I have another interpretation. You're already stuck in the loop. If there had been a box between "Start" and "Hey, wait" which said "Get marker", then you would have a marker already. If you suspend your logic for a moment to write the "Get marker", then afterwards your situation is self-consistent, because you already passed that point in the flowchart and you now have a marker with which you wrote it. (Well, sort of self-consistent.) ...Does that make sense to anyone besides me? [[User:Bplimley\|Bplimley]] ([[User talk:Bplimley\|talk]]) 05:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)		After staring at the title text for a few minutes, I have another interpretation. You're already stuck in the loop. If there had been a box between "Start" and "Hey, wait" which said "Get marker", then you would have a marker already. If you suspend your logic for a moment to write the "Get marker", then afterwards your situation is self-consistent, because you already passed that point in the flowchart and you now have a marker with which you wrote it. (Well, sort of self-consistent.) ...Does that make sense to anyone besides me? [[User:Bplimley\|Bplimley]] ([[User talk:Bplimley\|talk]]) 05:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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		+	I see three boxes in this XKCD comic (third is quarter hidden by logic). I thought that we were suppose to be learning how to think outside the box in school... - [[Special:Contributions/50.143.22.159\|50.143.22.159]] 12:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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	I was always taught to used lozenges for Start(s)/Stop(s). But YMMV. There are rectangles like above (lacking the curved sides) and small circles (without space for "Start" or "Stop", but contextualised with the uniquetous arrow-heads on each and every line). Also diamonds ''could'' be statements ("Check <foo> exists" -> Yes/No, or "<Foo> is.." -> A/B/C/... for multiple (2+?) exits), although that depends a lot on what style you're using, and I'm betting some would say it's deprecated. But don't mind me. [[Special:Contributions/31.111.77.19\|31.111.77.19]] 17:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)		I was always taught to used lozenges for Start(s)/Stop(s). But YMMV. There are rectangles like above (lacking the curved sides) and small circles (without space for "Start" or "Stop", but contextualised with the uniquetous arrow-heads on each and every line). Also diamonds ''could'' be statements ("Check <foo> exists" -> Yes/No, or "<Foo> is.." -> A/B/C/... for multiple (2+?) exits), although that depends a lot on what style you're using, and I'm betting some would say it's deprecated. But don't mind me. [[Special:Contributions/31.111.77.19\|31.111.77.19]] 17:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
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		+	After staring at the title text for a few minutes, I have another interpretation. You're already stuck in the loop. If there had been a box between "Start" and "Hey, wait" which said "Get marker", then you would have a marker already. If you suspend your logic for a moment to write the "Get marker", then afterwards your situation is self-consistent, because you already passed that point in the flowchart and you now have a marker with which you wrote it. (Well, sort of self-consistent.) ...Does that make sense to anyone besides me? [[User:Bplimley\|Bplimley]] ([[User talk:Bplimley\|talk]]) 05:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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	Maybe Randall just wants us to change the algorithmic loop that we get into when we enter the flowchart and create a paradox to kill the Weeping Angels. [[User:Milar Kayne\|Milar Kayne]] ([[User talk:Milar Kayne\|talk]]) 14:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)		Maybe Randall just wants us to change the algorithmic loop that we get into when we enter the flowchart and create a paradox to kill the Weeping Angels. [[User:Milar Kayne\|Milar Kayne]] ([[User talk:Milar Kayne\|talk]]) 14:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
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		+	I was always taught to used lozenges for Start(s)/Stop(s). But YMMV. There are rectangles like above (lacking the curved sides) and small circles (without space for "Start" or "Stop", but contextualised with the uniquetous arrow-heads on each and every line). Also diamonds ''could'' be statements ("Check <foo> exists" -> Yes/No, or "<Foo> is.." -> A/B/C/... for multiple (2+?) exits), although that depends a lot on what style you're using, and I'm betting some would say it's deprecated. But don't mind me. [[Special:Contributions/31.111.77.19\|31.111.77.19]] 17:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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	:If it is between the hours of 8:00 and 5:00, then I can escape, but that is only 37.5% of my day. Doomed, for all eternity. The solution proffered has the problem of the chicken and egg, how does one add get a marker if one does not have one. I like Hkmaly's idea... but proposes the additional questions of how: purchase, loot, or created. Each with their own rabbit trails to follow, ending in the pour house, prison, or crushed under the weight of the markers (mater being created?) But I feel there is a market to the other six billion inhabitants of earth that can be exploited. & Would Vulcans be more susceptible to entering into this loop than humans. [[Special:Contributions/24.106.78.38\|24.106.78.38]] 10:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC) Drifter		:If it is between the hours of 8:00 and 5:00, then I can escape, but that is only 37.5% of my day. Doomed, for all eternity. The solution proffered has the problem of the chicken and egg, how does one add get a marker if one does not have one. I like Hkmaly's idea... but proposes the additional questions of how: purchase, loot, or created. Each with their own rabbit trails to follow, ending in the pour house, prison, or crushed under the weight of the markers (mater being created?) But I feel there is a market to the other six billion inhabitants of earth that can be exploited. & Would Vulcans be more susceptible to entering into this loop than humans. [[Special:Contributions/24.106.78.38\|24.106.78.38]] 10:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC) Drifter
		+	:Straw Vulcans would be, certainly. [[Special:Contributions/76.106.251.87\|76.106.251.87]] 15:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

	that's the idea, its a commentary about nuclear weapons. if just one person hides a 'marker' up his sleeve when the rest of us genuinely have none, we're all at his mercy. [[Special:Contributions/193.60.97.30\|193.60.97.30]] 08:52, 5 April 2013 (UTC)		that's the idea, its a commentary about nuclear weapons. if just one person hides a 'marker' up his sleeve when the rest of us genuinely have none, we're all at his mercy. [[Special:Contributions/193.60.97.30\|193.60.97.30]] 08:52, 5 April 2013 (UTC)