Talk:1248: Sphere - Revision history

Weatherlawyer at 18:07, 10 January 2015

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Orazor at 05:52, 30 September 2014

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141.101.98.43 at 04:45, 25 March 2014

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Dgbrt at 22:52, 9 January 2014

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173.245.54.91 at 19:48, 9 January 2014

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Dgbrt at 07:24, 9 August 2013

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Coconutty at 03:50, 9 August 2013

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St.nerol at 23:37, 8 August 2013

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CFoxx: responding

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responding

Oscar at 12:20, 8 August 2013

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	The sphere in the first panel is the Earth. Megan is probably not talking to an astronomer, so she won't stick to the most correct definition to avoid further complicating the dialog. She will choose what is most easily understandable by the masses. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.43\|141.101.98.43]] 04:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)		The sphere in the first panel is the Earth. Megan is probably not talking to an astronomer, so she won't stick to the most correct definition to avoid further complicating the dialog. She will choose what is most easily understandable by the masses. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.43\|141.101.98.43]] 04:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
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		+	In winter it's cold and I close all the doors and get tangerine juice all over my paws. I too am trapped on a very big sphere yet I find this thing happening every year.
		+	In summer it seems my life's longer each day and the tangerine problem has all gone away and yet there's no time then when I can pause to resolve the riddle of tangerine doors.[[User:Weatherlawyer\| I used Google News BEFORE it was clickbait]] ([[User talk:Weatherlawyer\|talk]]) 18:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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 :Astronomers observe objects in the sky, not the Earth.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 11:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 ::Astronomers live on the surface of the Earth, not on the surface of the sky (celestial sphere). [[Special:Contributions/167.107.191.217|167.107.191.217]] 13:25, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 Are you sure “Sphere” refers to “hemisphere” and not simply to earth? After all, she’s trapped on earth and not on the celestial sphere. [[User:Quoti|Quoti]] ([[User talk:Quoti|talk]]) 11:24, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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	For the Incomplete tag: I have explained the title text, but nowhere in the comic does the firmament come into play. All that is is a fictional sphere representing the sky the ancients and medievals used to make sense of their world. Anonymous 19:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)		For the Incomplete tag: I have explained the title text, but nowhere in the comic does the firmament come into play. All that is is a fictional sphere representing the sky the ancients and medievals used to make sense of their world. Anonymous 19:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
	:I'm giving up, but THE SPHERE is still the firmament and NOT the Earth to astronomers! --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 22:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)		:I'm giving up, but THE SPHERE is still the firmament and NOT the Earth to astronomers! --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 22:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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		+	The sphere in the first panel is the Earth. Megan is probably not talking to an astronomer, so she won't stick to the most correct definition to avoid further complicating the dialog. She will choose what is most easily understandable by the masses. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.43\|141.101.98.43]] 04:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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	For the Incomplete tag: I have explained the title text, but nowhere in the comic does the firmament come into play. All that is is a fictional sphere representing the sky the ancients and medievals used to make sense of their world. Anonymous 19:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)		For the Incomplete tag: I have explained the title text, but nowhere in the comic does the firmament come into play. All that is is a fictional sphere representing the sky the ancients and medievals used to make sense of their world. Anonymous 19:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
		+	:I'm giving up, but THE SPHERE is still the firmament and NOT the Earth to astronomers! --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 22:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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	The sphere could be referring to a black hole. There is a theory out there that says information that falls into a black hole does not get lost as it is on the surface of the black hole. That's how I read it anyway. -(coconutty){{unsigned\|Coconutty}}		The sphere could be referring to a black hole. There is a theory out there that says information that falls into a black hole does not get lost as it is on the surface of the black hole. That's how I read it anyway. -(coconutty){{unsigned\|Coconutty}}
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		+	For the Incomplete tag: I have explained the title text, but nowhere in the comic does the firmament come into play. All that is is a fictional sphere representing the sky the ancients and medievals used to make sense of their world. Anonymous 19:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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	The is trapped on the surface of this sphere, since you can walk on it forever, without ever leaving it[[User:Oscar\|Oscar]] ([[User talk:Oscar\|talk]]) 12:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)		The is trapped on the surface of this sphere, since you can walk on it forever, without ever leaving it[[User:Oscar\|Oscar]] ([[User talk:Oscar\|talk]]) 12:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

−	The sphere could be referring to a black hole. There is a theory out there that says information that falls into a black hole does not get lost as it is on the surface of the black hole. That's how I read it anyway. -(coconutty)	+	The sphere could be referring to a black hole. There is a theory out there that says information that falls into a black hole does not get lost as it is on the surface of the black hole. That's how I read it anyway. -(coconutty){{unsigned\|Coconutty}}

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 :She does mention a sphere, so I changed it back. No hard feelings (I hope). –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 18:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 ::I don't mind, but it seems I'm the only astronomer and physicist here.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:13, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 After some more thoughts on this, why nobody (even myself) did raise the idea that Randall talks about both interpretations? Nevertheless, if the sphere is interpreted as the surface of the Earth there is a need to explain the geoid discrepancy to an ideal sphere, as mentioned in the very first post here.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 19:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
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 The is trapped on the surface of this sphere, since you can walk on it forever, without ever leaving it[[User:Oscar|Oscar]] ([[User talk:Oscar|talk]]) 12:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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	This "a sphere is a surface and has no surface" is too much nitpicking. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere) talks about calculating the surface area of a sphere. I think "surface of sth" is not very rigorously defined. Often two dimensional manifolds are called surfaces, and a sphere is one, and the surface (different meaning) of the earth is roughly a sphere. What a sphere doesn't have is a border. [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 August 2013 (UTC)		This "a sphere is a surface and has no surface" is too much nitpicking. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere) talks about calculating the surface area of a sphere. I think "surface of sth" is not very rigorously defined. Often two dimensional manifolds are called surfaces, and a sphere is one, and the surface (different meaning) of the earth is roughly a sphere. What a sphere doesn't have is a border. [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
		+	:You are right that the Wikipedia article is not consistent with its terminology. However, the {{w\|Ball (mathematics)\|Wp-article on 'ball'}} mentions that "in informal use, sphere sometimes means ball". Maybe thats where the source of the confusion lies? If she by 'a sphere' means 'the surface of the Earth', then she is saying that she is 'trapped on the surface of the surface of the earth', which seems strange. If she means the entire Earth, however correct, her sentence at least makes sense. –[[User:St.nerol\|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol\|talk]]) 23:37, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

	The is trapped on the surface of this sphere, since you can walk on it forever, without ever leaving it[[User:Oscar\|Oscar]] ([[User talk:Oscar\|talk]]) 12:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)		The is trapped on the surface of this sphere, since you can walk on it forever, without ever leaving it[[User:Oscar\|Oscar]] ([[User talk:Oscar\|talk]]) 12:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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 "This totally occupies her mind, and she feels frustrated that she can only learn about those mind-boggling places, and not visit them herself."  Wow.  She must have been in a class?  She's "totally" occupied?  She's frustrated?  (Not wistful, or resigned, or just aware of a fact mind you.)  She isn't just thinking about the size of space, but apparently really, really wants to actually travel there.  (To where, exactly?  What "mind boggling" places?  "Space"?  Seems rather general.)  You got all that deep and specific feeling from just her using the word "trapped"?  Looks like reading a lot into things, to me. [[User:CFoxx|CFoxx]] ([[User talk:CFoxx|talk]]) 15:53, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 :I try to not to make the explanations too dry; they are and should often be interpretations to some extent. On the other hand yeah, you are probably right that I read too much emotion into it. I changed the things you commented on. –[[User:St.nerol|St.nerol]] ([[User talk:St.nerol|talk]]) 18:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 :@CFoxx - Absolutely. In XKCD, there are no shades of grey. (really, look for yourself) [[User:JamesCurran|JamesCurran]] ([[User talk:JamesCurran|talk]]) 19:43, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 Hey, what the hell are you doing? "The sphere she mentions..." is absolutely wrong, the word ''Sphere'' appears only at the title and the title text! Megan is just impressed by the vast size of the universe.--[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 16:21, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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	This "a sphere is a surface and has no surface" is too much nitpicking. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere) talks about calculating the surface area of a sphere. I think "surface of sth" is not very rigorously defined. Often two dimensional manifolds are called surfaces, and a sphere is one, and the surface (different meaning) of the earth is roughly a sphere. What a sphere doesn't have is a border. [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 August 2013 (UTC)		This "a sphere is a surface and has no surface" is too much nitpicking. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere) talks about calculating the surface area of a sphere. I think "surface of sth" is not very rigorously defined. Often two dimensional manifolds are called surfaces, and a sphere is one, and the surface (different meaning) of the earth is roughly a sphere. What a sphere doesn't have is a border. [[User:Peter\|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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		+	The is trapped on the surface of this sphere, since you can walk on it forever, without ever leaving it[[User:Oscar\|Oscar]] ([[User talk:Oscar\|talk]]) 12:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)