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Nitpicking: EBNF

2021-11-29T23:35:01Z

EBNF

108.162.229.72 at 07:06, 28 March 2014

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108.162.254.196 at 12:09, 19 March 2014

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DreamingDaemon at 09:27, 19 March 2014

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108.162.221.5 at 00:30, 19 March 2014

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108.162.221.5 at 19:26, 18 March 2014

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108.162.221.5 at 19:21, 18 March 2014

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Dgbrt at 22:59, 17 March 2014

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Davidy22 at 21:34, 17 March 2014

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108.162.221.84 at 21:13, 17 March 2014

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	:: Would not the "Help" link on the left be classed as a manual for this page? [[User:DreamingDaemon\|DD]] ([[User talk:DreamingDaemon\|talk]]) 09:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)		:: Would not the "Help" link on the left be classed as a manual for this page? [[User:DreamingDaemon\|DD]] ([[User talk:DreamingDaemon\|talk]]) 09:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
	::: Yeah, but do you ''need'' the help for reading this wiki? --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.196\|108.162.254.196]] 12:09, 19 March 2014 (UTC)		::: Yeah, but do you ''need'' the help for reading this wiki? --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.196\|108.162.254.196]] 12:09, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
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		+	It's 2021 and the sudoers man page still has a mini-manual for a grammar-generation syntax. [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 23:35, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

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	Your line counts may vary for the man pages, depending on what distribution you are running and what version of man you're using (and god forbid, what version of wc). {{unsigned ip\|‎108.162.221.51}}		Your line counts may vary for the man pages, depending on what distribution you are running and what version of man you're using (and god forbid, what version of wc). {{unsigned ip\|‎108.162.221.51}}
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		+	:it may even vary based on the number of columns in your terminal, as man pages are formatted from their roff sources when you type 'man foo'... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.72\|108.162.229.72]] 07:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

	:Mine comes in at 1806 lines. So even more unwieldy. (Ubuntu 13.10) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.74\|108.162.216.74]] 14:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		:Mine comes in at 1806 lines. So even more unwieldy. (Ubuntu 13.10) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.74\|108.162.216.74]] 14:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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	: I think this comic is a tool, rather than a manual, a tool to determine whether a tool fixes or creates problems. This tool needs/has a manual (this wiki page). At least this wiki page doesn't include a section called "How to read this xkcd explanation". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.5\|108.162.221.5]] 19:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)		: I think this comic is a tool, rather than a manual, a tool to determine whether a tool fixes or creates problems. This tool needs/has a manual (this wiki page). At least this wiki page doesn't include a section called "How to read this xkcd explanation". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.5\|108.162.221.5]] 19:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
	:: Would not the "Help" link on the left be classed as a manual for this page? [[User:DreamingDaemon\|DD]] ([[User talk:DreamingDaemon\|talk]]) 09:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)		:: Would not the "Help" link on the left be classed as a manual for this page? [[User:DreamingDaemon\|DD]] ([[User talk:DreamingDaemon\|talk]]) 09:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
		+	::: Yeah, but do you ''need'' the help for reading this wiki? --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.196\|108.162.254.196]] 12:09, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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	Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89\|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89\|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
	: I think this comic is a tool, rather than a manual, a tool to determine whether a tool fixes or creates problems. This tool needs/has a manual (this wiki page). At least this wiki page doesn't include a section called "How to read this xkcd explanation". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.5\|108.162.221.5]] 19:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)		: I think this comic is a tool, rather than a manual, a tool to determine whether a tool fixes or creates problems. This tool needs/has a manual (this wiki page). At least this wiki page doesn't include a section called "How to read this xkcd explanation". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.5\|108.162.221.5]] 19:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
		+	:: Would not the "Help" link on the left be classed as a manual for this page? [[User:DreamingDaemon\|DD]] ([[User talk:DreamingDaemon\|talk]]) 09:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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	:1,743 here... but that's still only medium length; g++ weighs in at 14,148 (Fedora 20). [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.29\|173.245.52.29]] 19:09, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		:1,743 here... but that's still only medium length; g++ weighs in at 14,148 (Fedora 20). [[Special:Contributions/173.245.52.29\|173.245.52.29]] 19:09, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
		+	:: g++ might be 14,148, but it is also a ''compiler''. In fact it's a collection of compilers, optimizers, linkers, preprocessors, optimizers, lexers, parsers, partridges, and pear trees. sudoers is a ''config file''. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.5\|108.162.221.5]] 00:30, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

	I seem to remember some info page starting with “how to read this manual”… can’t find it though. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.162\|108.162.254.162]] 10:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		I seem to remember some info page starting with “how to read this manual”… can’t find it though. --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.162\|108.162.254.162]] 10:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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	Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89\|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89\|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
		+	: I think this comic is a tool, rather than a manual, a tool to determine whether a tool fixes or creates problems. This tool needs/has a manual (this wiki page). At least this wiki page doesn't include a section called "How to read this xkcd explanation". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.5\|108.162.221.5]] 19:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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 :Did you seriously just compare a Windows and a Unix tool?  In my opinion though, notepad/nano are more useful. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.43|108.162.221.43]] 17:49, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 :: Trolling? [[User:Spongebog|Spongebog]] ([[User talk:Spongebog|talk]]) 19:24, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 Is this spelling correct: "that tool tends", but "these tools tend"? I'm not native English so maybe someone can help. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Is this spelling correct: "that tool tends", but "these tools tend"? I'm not native English so maybe someone can help. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 :Yes, those are both correct English. "That tool" is singular while "these tools" is plural, thus the verbs are (singular) "tends" and (plural) "tend". There is a mistake in the fourth bullet where the person who wrote the explanation said "most worse" (should have said "worst": "But the worst tools..."). {{unsigned ip|108.162.221.84}}
 Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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	Is this spelling correct: "that tool tends", but "these tools tend"? I'm not native English so maybe someone can help. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		Is this spelling correct: "that tool tends", but "these tools tend"? I'm not native English so maybe someone can help. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
		+	:Yes, those are both correct English. "That tool" is singular while "these tools" is plural, thus the verbs are (singular) "tends" and (plural) "tend". There is a mistake in the fourth bullet where the person who wrote the explanation said "most worse" (should have said "worst": "But the worst tools...").

	Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89\|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)		Could this comic itself be considered a manual for how to determine whether a tool causes or creates problems? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.89\|173.245.54.89]] 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)