Talk:1439: Rack Unit - Revision history

172.70.163.49 at 20:03, 23 April 2024

2024-04-23T20:03:30Z

AmbroseChapel at 04:21, 24 August 2017

2017-08-24T04:21:58Z

Mikemk: I'm one of today's 10,000

2016-12-27T05:31:23Z

I'm one of today's 10,000

173.245.54.153: fix left/right reversal, after this morning's coffee

2014-11-02T15:13:29Z

fix left/right reversal, after this morning's coffee

173.245.54.153 at 02:54, 2 November 2014

2014-11-02T02:54:16Z

199.27.128.182 at 00:33, 2 November 2014

2014-11-02T00:33:59Z

173.245.54.153 at 21:22, 30 October 2014

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Davidy22 at 14:41, 30 October 2014

2014-10-30T14:41:36Z

103.22.201.128 at 08:49, 30 October 2014

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173.245.54.153 at 00:28, 30 October 2014

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	There's another Air Bud reference in [[1552:_Rulebook]] [[User:AmbroseChapel\|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel\|talk]]) 04:21, 24 August 2017 (UTC)		There's another Air Bud reference in [[1552:_Rulebook]] [[User:AmbroseChapel\|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel\|talk]]) 04:21, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
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		+	:And in [[115: Meerkat]], I believe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.49\|172.70.163.49]] 20:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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	Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive". {{unsigned ip\|103.22.201.128}}		Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive". {{unsigned ip\|103.22.201.128}}
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		+	There's another Air Bud reference in [[1552:_Rulebook]] [[User:AmbroseChapel\|AmbroseChapel]] ([[User talk:AmbroseChapel\|talk]]) 04:21, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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 : Bzz ZZ zz bz?! (What did you say about my mother?!) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.26|108.162.216.26]] 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 :: Bzz, zzz bzzz bz. Bzz zz. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.202|108.162.250.202]] 23:30, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 Air Bud has had multiple mentions in his comics, but I don't know all of them.  I also think it was mentioned in one of the What-If's.  I'll do a quick Google search to see if I can get at least one of them. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.161|108.162.237.161]] 06:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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 ::::: This is my first post in this wiki.  1.) the difference between 1.5" and 1.75" is enough to let an inserted object give the ~10 degrees necessary for the honey to not drip out.  2.) In the data center I'm familiar with the server blades were mounted vertically (Verari BladeRack 2) would vertically aligned boxes for for bee keeping?  [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.182|199.27.128.182]] 00:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
-::::::[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langstroth_Frames.jpg Here is a picture] of a frame of honeycomb lifted out of a super. In the beekeeper's left hand you can see the bit of extended top bar that rests on a rabbet in the top edge of the box. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langstroth-nastavek.jpg Here is a picture] of what beekeepers call the woodware or bee furniture. That is what it looks like before the bees have used it and covered it with wax and propolis. That tan sheet in the lifted frame is beeswax foundation, embossed with a hex pattern of worker-sized cells. As the bees draw comb out from both sides of that foundation, they instinctively give the cells their upward tilt. ([http://i.imgur.com/SUJQC.gif Here is an image] with the tilt angle exaggerated.) No need for a human to tilt the frame for them. You can see how the top bars in a beehive are horizontal, with the frames hanging vertically down from them. In the Verari box, the "top bar" of each blade is vertical. We might be able to work with that... read on:
+::::::[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langstroth_Frames.jpg Here is a picture] of a frame of honeycomb lifted out of a super. In the beekeeper's right hand you can see the bit of extended top bar that rests on a rabbet in the top edge of the box. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langstroth-nastavek.jpg Here is a picture] of what beekeepers call the woodware or bee furniture. That is what it looks like before the bees have used it and covered it with wax and propolis. That tan sheet in the lifted frame is beeswax foundation, embossed with a hex pattern of worker-sized cells. As the bees draw comb out from both sides of that foundation, they instinctively give the cells their upward tilt. ([http://i.imgur.com/SUJQC.gif Here is an image] with the tilt angle exaggerated.) No need for a human to tilt the frame for them. You can see how the top bars in a beehive are horizontal, with the frames hanging vertically down from them. In the Verari box, the "top bar" of each blade is vertical. We might be able to work with that... read on:
 ::::::Frames start out with their top bars resting on rabbets in the front and back walls of the super, which is a topless, bottomless box, one module of a beehive. As time goes on, the bees cover the inside surfaces of their nest with propolis, which sort of glues the frames into the box. The burr comb, that you can see on the top and bottom bars in the first picture, gets broken when the frame comes out. Honey-filled burr comb scraped off the top bar makes a nice snack, tucked under the veil on a sunny afternoon. The yellow thing in that first picture looks like the handle of a hive tool, used to scrape off unwanted bits of comb, pry the frames loose, and get some finger room under the ends for lifting. When the frames go back in, it's just gravity holding them in place. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Abeilles_et_ruches_19.JPG This picture] shows some bridge comb between frames. A careful stab with the hive tool will cut that, so it doesn't tear as the frame comes out.

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	::::: This is my first post in this wiki. 1.) the difference between 1.5" and 1.75" is enough to let an inserted object give the ~10 degrees necessary for the honey to not drip out. 2.) In the data center I'm familiar with the server blades were mounted vertically (Verari BladeRack 2) would vertically aligned boxes for for bee keeping? [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.182\|199.27.128.182]] 00:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)		::::: This is my first post in this wiki. 1.) the difference between 1.5" and 1.75" is enough to let an inserted object give the ~10 degrees necessary for the honey to not drip out. 2.) In the data center I'm familiar with the server blades were mounted vertically (Verari BladeRack 2) would vertically aligned boxes for for bee keeping? [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.182\|199.27.128.182]] 00:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
		+	::::::[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langstroth_Frames.jpg Here is a picture] of a frame of honeycomb lifted out of a super. In the beekeeper's left hand you can see the bit of extended top bar that rests on a rabbet in the top edge of the box. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langstroth-nastavek.jpg Here is a picture] of what beekeepers call the woodware or bee furniture. That is what it looks like before the bees have used it and covered it with wax and propolis. That tan sheet in the lifted frame is beeswax foundation, embossed with a hex pattern of worker-sized cells. As the bees draw comb out from both sides of that foundation, they instinctively give the cells their upward tilt. ([http://i.imgur.com/SUJQC.gif Here is an image] with the tilt angle exaggerated.) No need for a human to tilt the frame for them. You can see how the top bars in a beehive are horizontal, with the frames hanging vertically down from them. In the Verari box, the "top bar" of each blade is vertical. We might be able to work with that... read on:
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		+	::::::Frames start out with their top bars resting on rabbets in the front and back walls of the super, which is a topless, bottomless box, one module of a beehive. As time goes on, the bees cover the inside surfaces of their nest with propolis, which sort of glues the frames into the box. The burr comb, that you can see on the top and bottom bars in the first picture, gets broken when the frame comes out. Honey-filled burr comb scraped off the top bar makes a nice snack, tucked under the veil on a sunny afternoon. The yellow thing in that first picture looks like the handle of a hive tool, used to scrape off unwanted bits of comb, pry the frames loose, and get some finger room under the ends for lifting. When the frames go back in, it's just gravity holding them in place. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Abeilles_et_ruches_19.JPG This picture] shows some bridge comb between frames. A careful stab with the hive tool will cut that, so it doesn't tear as the frame comes out.
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		+	::::::Slotting and unslotting a frame with its top bar oriented vertically would call for some dexterity. The need to secure the ears to the rack might call for an extra pair of hands. If the frame wiggled too much to one side or the other on its way in or out of the rack, some bees might get crushed... when that happens, they release an alarm pheromone (which smells like banana oil, or isoamyl acetate, familiar to shooters as Hoppe's #9 nitro solvent.) Other bees get "defensive" when they smell that, and come looking for animals to sting. When they get ''really'' grumpy, they launch straight for the face, which is why we wear veils made out of metal screen.
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		+	::::::Whew, that's enough typing for now. I will check in on this page now and then. If I've left anything unclear, ask away! [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.153\|173.245.54.153]] 02:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

	::::Thanks for your insight, I found it very interesting. I never thought I would be learning about bees today! As far as the frame pitch, my research suggested that there wasn't any 'standard' pitch, but that 1.5" was fairly typical. I would certainly defer to your greater expertise if you feel the article needs editing.--[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 08:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)		::::Thanks for your insight, I found it very interesting. I never thought I would be learning about bees today! As far as the frame pitch, my research suggested that there wasn't any 'standard' pitch, but that 1.5" was fairly typical. I would certainly defer to your greater expertise if you feel the article needs editing.--[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 08:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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	:::Orienting the frames horizontally in a normally situated rack would be a deal-breaker, though. Honeycomb cells are built with their bases on a vertical foundation, with each cell having a slight upward tilt, on the order of 10° to 12°, so that the nectar doesn't fall out. The bees fan their wings to ventilate the hive, reducing the nectar's water content and increasing its viscosity, but they also manage the ventilation to maintain a certain warmth around the brood comb. At that temperature, honey flows pretty well. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.153\|173.245.54.153]] 01:28, 28 October 2014 (UTC)		:::Orienting the frames horizontally in a normally situated rack would be a deal-breaker, though. Honeycomb cells are built with their bases on a vertical foundation, with each cell having a slight upward tilt, on the order of 10° to 12°, so that the nectar doesn't fall out. The bees fan their wings to ventilate the hive, reducing the nectar's water content and increasing its viscosity, but they also manage the ventilation to maintain a certain warmth around the brood comb. At that temperature, honey flows pretty well. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.153\|173.245.54.153]] 01:28, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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		+	::::: This is my first post in this wiki. 1.) the difference between 1.5" and 1.75" is enough to let an inserted object give the ~10 degrees necessary for the honey to not drip out. 2.) In the data center I'm familiar with the server blades were mounted vertically (Verari BladeRack 2) would vertically aligned boxes for for bee keeping? [[Special:Contributions/199.27.128.182\|199.27.128.182]] 00:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

	::::Thanks for your insight, I found it very interesting. I never thought I would be learning about bees today! As far as the frame pitch, my research suggested that there wasn't any 'standard' pitch, but that 1.5" was fairly typical. I would certainly defer to your greater expertise if you feel the article needs editing.--[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 08:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)		::::Thanks for your insight, I found it very interesting. I never thought I would be learning about bees today! As far as the frame pitch, my research suggested that there wasn't any 'standard' pitch, but that 1.5" was fairly typical. I would certainly defer to your greater expertise if you feel the article needs editing.--[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 08:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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	I remember seeing an article a few years ago about a company planning to use sideways server racks for liquid immersion cooling. I wonder if honey is electrically or thermally conductive... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/1955238/Startups-Submerged-Servers-Could-Cut-Cooling-Costs [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.65\|108.162.216.65]] 15:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)		I remember seeing an article a few years ago about a company planning to use sideways server racks for liquid immersion cooling. I wonder if honey is electrically or thermally conductive... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/1955238/Startups-Submerged-Servers-Could-Cut-Cooling-Costs [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.65\|108.162.216.65]] 15:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
		+	:Honey is a supersaturated sugar solution made from a much more dilute sugar solution, usually nectar. Not a lot of ionic species in the solution, so maybe slightly more electrically conductive than DI water. The transformation from nectar to honey involves controlled airflow, from bees fanning their wings while remaining stationary on a wood or wax substrate that they can hook their feet onto. Liquid coolant would not be compatible with that process, to say nothing of the air-breathing insects doing the work.
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		+	:If the bees chose to draw comb on a foundation of active circuit board, the comb would act as thermal insulation, and would interfere with air flow around the hot semiconductors or their heat sinks. Data-center honey production would call for intense hive management to avoid issues like that. If the honey frames were not kept separate from the electronic blades, the frames would need to be pulled on a rotation on the order of four times daily, to check the electronic modules and scrape them off if needed. Interesting work, if you can get it. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.153\|173.245.54.153]] 21:22, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

	Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive". {{unsigned ip\|103.22.201.128}}		Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive". {{unsigned ip\|103.22.201.128}}

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	I remember seeing an article a few years ago about a company planning to use sideways server racks for liquid immersion cooling. I wonder if honey is electrically or thermally conductive... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/1955238/Startups-Submerged-Servers-Could-Cut-Cooling-Costs [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.65\|108.162.216.65]] 15:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)		I remember seeing an article a few years ago about a company planning to use sideways server racks for liquid immersion cooling. I wonder if honey is electrically or thermally conductive... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/1955238/Startups-Submerged-Servers-Could-Cut-Cooling-Costs [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.65\|108.162.216.65]] 15:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

−	Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive".	+	Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive". {{unsigned ip\|103.22.201.128}}

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	I remember seeing an article a few years ago about a company planning to use sideways server racks for liquid immersion cooling. I wonder if honey is electrically or thermally conductive... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/1955238/Startups-Submerged-Servers-Could-Cut-Cooling-Costs [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.65\|108.162.216.65]] 15:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)		I remember seeing an article a few years ago about a company planning to use sideways server racks for liquid immersion cooling. I wonder if honey is electrically or thermally conductive... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/1955238/Startups-Submerged-Servers-Could-Cut-Cooling-Costs [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.65\|108.162.216.65]] 15:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
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		+	Many servers use hypervisors for virtualization. What's interesting is that there is a hypervisor called bhyve, pronounced as "beehive".

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	::::Thanks for your insight, I found it very interesting. I never thought I would be learning about bees today! As far as the frame pitch, my research suggested that there wasn't any 'standard' pitch, but that 1.5" was fairly typical. I would certainly defer to your greater expertise if you feel the article needs editing.--[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 08:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)		::::Thanks for your insight, I found it very interesting. I never thought I would be learning about bees today! As far as the frame pitch, my research suggested that there wasn't any 'standard' pitch, but that 1.5" was fairly typical. I would certainly defer to your greater expertise if you feel the article needs editing.--[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 08:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
		+	:::::I do not know what resources Black Hat can command. I can only assume the racks were somehow turned on their sides, so the bees could work in their customary orientation with respect to gravity. Sensitive little darlings they are, and they smell nice. I've put a parenthesis in the explanation, more or less to that effect. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.153\|173.245.54.153]] 00:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

	I wouldn't bee suprised if this became of those 'reality imitates art' situations, and somebody goes and makes a beehive out of an old server cabinet. I'll just leave [http://www.ebay.com/itm/18U-SERVER-RACK-DATA-NETWORK-CABINET-19-INCH-600-W-x450-D-x-1000-H-NEW-/191337505928?pt=UK_Computing_Rackmount_Cabinets_Frames&hash=item2c8c9aa488 this eBay auction] here.... --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 15:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)		I wouldn't bee suprised if this became of those 'reality imitates art' situations, and somebody goes and makes a beehive out of an old server cabinet. I'll just leave [http://www.ebay.com/itm/18U-SERVER-RACK-DATA-NETWORK-CABINET-19-INCH-600-W-x450-D-x-1000-H-NEW-/191337505928?pt=UK_Computing_Rackmount_Cabinets_Frames&hash=item2c8c9aa488 this eBay auction] here.... --[[User:Pudder\|Pudder]] ([[User talk:Pudder\|talk]]) 15:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)