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Meta in meta

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L-Space Traveler at 14:17, 20 March 2023

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‎How much paper is there?: reply

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188.114.99.189: opinion

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108.162.229.207 at 21:17, 31 March 2015

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 == Meta-meta-…-meta-analysis ==
+Meta-analyses may use other permutations (like "We searched Embase, Cochrane and Medline for…"). Since there are 3 databases, the number of permutations is 6 ''for each iteration''. All iterations are independent from the others, so there are 36 possibilities in a meta-meta-meta-analysis, and 46,656 in a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis.
 Since the number of possibilities increases exponentially, a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis would have over 10<sup>14</sup> permutations, much more than what can be handled by hand, a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis has over 3.6 · 10<sup>22</sup>, and a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis has about as many possibilites as the estimated number of elementary particles (although I found no meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis or beyond on the web and only 1 study said to be a meta-meta-meta-analysis). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.25|172.70.42.25]] 18:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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 *Meta-Meta-Meta-Analysis = "We searched M, E, & C for 'We searched M, E, & C for 'We searched M, E, & C for [keyword]""
 [[User:Smperron|Smperron]] ([[User talk:Smperron|talk]]) 08:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 Your paper is rejected. //"TOO META"--[[User:Theme|Theme]] ([[User talk:Theme|talk]]) 08:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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 *Meta-Meta-Meta-Analysis = "We searched M, E, & C for 'We searched M, E, & C for 'We searched M, E, & C for [keyword]""
 [[User:Smperron|Smperron]] ([[User talk:Smperron|talk]]) 08:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 Your paper is rejected. //"TOO META"--[[User:Theme|Theme]] ([[User talk:Theme|talk]]) 08:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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 *Meta-Meta-Meta-Analysis = "We searched M, E, & C for 'We searched M, E, & C for 'We searched M, E, & C for [keyword]""
 [[User:Smperron|Smperron]] ([[User talk:Smperron|talk]]) 08:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 Your paper is rejected. //"TOO META"--[[User:Theme|Theme]] ([[User talk:Theme|talk]]) 08:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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	:Papers are mostly paperless these days. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.10\|172.69.34.10]] 20:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC)		:Papers are mostly paperless these days. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.10\|172.69.34.10]] 20:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
	::[https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1162:_Log_Scale Maybe he's a quitter.] [[User:L-Space Traveler\|L-Space Traveler]] ([[User talk:L-Space Traveler\|talk]]) 14:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)		::[https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1162:_Log_Scale Maybe he's a quitter.] [[User:L-Space Traveler\|L-Space Traveler]] ([[User talk:L-Space Traveler\|talk]]) 14:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== Meta-meta-…-meta-analysis ==
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		+	Some meta-analyses may use other permutations (like "We searched Embase, Cochrane and Medline for…"). Since there are 3 databases, the number of permutations is 6 ''for each iteration''. All iterations are independent from the others, so there are 36 possibilities in a meta-meta-meta-analysis, and 46,656 in a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis.
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		+	Since the number of possibilities increases exponentially, a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis would have over 10<sup>14</sup> permutations, much more than what can be handled by hand, a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis has over 3.6 · 10<sup>22</sup>, and a meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis has about as many possibilites as the estimated number of elementary particles (although I found no meta-meta-meta-meta-analysis or beyond on the web and only 1 study said to be a meta-meta-meta-analysis). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.42.25\|172.70.42.25]] 18:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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	If the paper is a meta-meta-meta-analysis, then the paper is discussing the paper is discussing the paper? Is the Methods section (near-)infinite? How much paper does Randall have? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.164\|108.162.246.164]] 17:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)		If the paper is a meta-meta-meta-analysis, then the paper is discussing the paper is discussing the paper? Is the Methods section (near-)infinite? How much paper does Randall have? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.164\|108.162.246.164]] 17:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
	:Papers are mostly paperless these days. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.10\|172.69.34.10]] 20:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC)		:Papers are mostly paperless these days. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.10\|172.69.34.10]] 20:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
		+	::[https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1162:_Log_Scale Maybe he's a quitter.] [[User:L-Space Traveler\|L-Space Traveler]] ([[User talk:L-Space Traveler\|talk]]) 14:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

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	If the paper is a meta-meta-meta-analysis, then the paper is discussing the paper is discussing the paper? Is the Methods section (near-)infinite? How much paper does Randall have? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.164\|108.162.246.164]] 17:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)		If the paper is a meta-meta-meta-analysis, then the paper is discussing the paper is discussing the paper? Is the Methods section (near-)infinite? How much paper does Randall have? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.164\|108.162.246.164]] 17:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
		+	:Papers are mostly paperless these days. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.10\|172.69.34.10]] 20:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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	:Actually, if we stick to the greek root, "meta" simply signifies "beyond", or "after". So, by adding level after level of analysis, by going beyond single studies, and single studies of single studies, it is truly becoming "too meta", too grand. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.207\|108.162.229.207]] 21:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)		:Actually, if we stick to the greek root, "meta" simply signifies "beyond", or "after". So, by adding level after level of analysis, by going beyond single studies, and single studies of single studies, it is truly becoming "too meta", too grand. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.207\|108.162.229.207]] 21:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
	:My interpretation is that it could mean both. For example, "too meta" = "the strenght of meta is too high" for being too self referential or "too meta" = "there's too many metas" for the excess or abstraction. I'm now experiencing {{w\|Semantic satiation}}. [[Special:Contributions/188.114.99.189\|188.114.99.189]] 18:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)		:My interpretation is that it could mean both. For example, "too meta" = "the strenght of meta is too high" for being too self referential or "too meta" = "there's too many metas" for the excess or abstraction. I'm now experiencing {{w\|Semantic satiation}}. [[Special:Contributions/188.114.99.189\|188.114.99.189]] 18:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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		+	== How much paper is there? ==
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		+	If the paper is a meta-meta-meta-analysis, then the paper is discussing the paper is discussing the paper? Is the Methods section (near-)infinite? How much paper does Randall have? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.164\|108.162.246.164]] 17:22, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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	The term "too meta" means that something is too self referential. Not "so abstract that they can't be easily interpreted." {{unsigned ip\|108.162.254.88}}		The term "too meta" means that something is too self referential. Not "so abstract that they can't be easily interpreted." {{unsigned ip\|108.162.254.88}}
	:Actually, if we stick to the greek root, "meta" simply signifies "beyond", or "after". So, by adding level after level of analysis, by going beyond single studies, and single studies of single studies, it is truly becoming "too meta", too grand. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.207\|108.162.229.207]] 21:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)		:Actually, if we stick to the greek root, "meta" simply signifies "beyond", or "after". So, by adding level after level of analysis, by going beyond single studies, and single studies of single studies, it is truly becoming "too meta", too grand. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.207\|108.162.229.207]] 21:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
		+	:My interpretation is that it could mean both. For example, "too meta" = "the strenght of meta is too high" for being too self referential or "too meta" = "there's too many metas" for the excess or abstraction. I'm now experiencing {{w\|Semantic satiation}}. [[Special:Contributions/188.114.99.189\|188.114.99.189]] 18:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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	The term "too meta" means that something is too self referential. Not "so abstract that they can't be easily interpreted." {{unsigned ip\|108.162.254.88}}		The term "too meta" means that something is too self referential. Not "so abstract that they can't be easily interpreted." {{unsigned ip\|108.162.254.88}}
		+	:Actually, if we stick to the greek root, "meta" simply signifies "beyond", or "after". So, by adding level after level of analysis, by going beyond single studies, and single studies of single studies, it is truly becoming "too meta", too grand. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.229.207\|108.162.229.207]] 21:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)