Talk:1649: Pipelines - Revision history

87.bus.rider at 15:39, 17 April 2024

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NiceGuy1 at 09:02, 9 June 2017

2017-06-09T09:02:03Z

NiceGuy1 at 08:58, 9 June 2017

2017-06-09T08:58:17Z

Davidy22 at 20:38, 6 March 2016

2016-03-06T20:38:39Z

Zeimusu: Gallon is not well defined.

2016-03-06T12:49:10Z

Gallon is not well defined.

162.158.180.203 at 06:30, 3 March 2016

2016-03-03T06:30:51Z

188.114.106.47 at 19:20, 2 March 2016

2016-03-02T19:20:36Z

188.114.106.47 at 19:20, 2 March 2016

2016-03-02T19:20:15Z

188.114.106.47 at 18:02, 2 March 2016

2016-03-02T18:02:27Z

162.158.255.74 at 11:48, 2 March 2016

2016-03-02T11:48:43Z

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	Checking some numbers - Meat seems consistent with [http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/286014/sb965f_1_.pdf this USDA report] (I got ''32.1 GL''), but Milk Consumption (''29.8 GL'') was way off - mainly I think because it was based on consumption - not production. Using the numbers listed of "all dairy products" is ''86.3 GL'', which isn't right either - but closer. Cheese (''4.44 GL'') was also off. In the small pipes, based upon a report [https://ladyofthecakes.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/who-eats-the-most-mayonnaise-ketchup-mustard/ here], Mayo (''0.656 GL''), Ketchup (''0.687 GL'') were way off. Mustard (''0.106 GL'') wasn't that far off. Further investigation is coming as I find the time, but it seems that production numbers were used more than consumption numbers - (consistent with the note of "pipes overlap" - obviously you can't consume something that's been used in something else). --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 18:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)		Checking some numbers - Meat seems consistent with [http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/286014/sb965f_1_.pdf this USDA report] (I got ''32.1 GL''), but Milk Consumption (''29.8 GL'') was way off - mainly I think because it was based on consumption - not production. Using the numbers listed of "all dairy products" is ''86.3 GL'', which isn't right either - but closer. Cheese (''4.44 GL'') was also off. In the small pipes, based upon a report [https://ladyofthecakes.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/who-eats-the-most-mayonnaise-ketchup-mustard/ here], Mayo (''0.656 GL''), Ketchup (''0.687 GL'') were way off. Mustard (''0.106 GL'') wasn't that far off. Further investigation is coming as I find the time, but it seems that production numbers were used more than consumption numbers - (consistent with the note of "pipes overlap" - obviously you can't consume something that's been used in something else). --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 18:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
	: Ok after review of Saliva Pools 500 mL/day figure (stated within this last month), the population should product 59.9 GL of Saliva. Comparing with the 71.6 GL listed shows that the saliva pipe should have a diameter of 77.8 cm. Applying this scaling to "not-meg" gives a height of 165 cm - which matches [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=average%20height%20of%20a%20woman with what Google says] for Average woman height. I'll rescale everything in the lower panel to match unless I see a disagreement. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 19:20, 2 March 2016 (UTC)		: Ok after review of Saliva Pools 500 mL/day figure (stated within this last month), the population should product 59.9 GL of Saliva. Comparing with the 71.6 GL listed shows that the saliva pipe should have a diameter of 77.8 cm. Applying this scaling to "not-meg" gives a height of 165 cm - which matches [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=average%20height%20of%20a%20woman with what Google says] for Average woman height. I'll rescale everything in the lower panel to match unless I see a disagreement. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 19:20, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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		+	I would love myself to drink some LCD Liquid right now. [[User:87.bus.rider\|87.bus.rider]] ([[User talk:87.bus.rider\|talk]]), 15:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

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 The Trivia section speaks of Leap Day comics, describing another as being "also like this one on a Friday in 2008". That implies Leap Day yesterday was a Friday. It was not, Leap Day was a Monday this year (as was the release date of this comic). ???? Other phrasing in the Trivia section uses similarly incorrect phrasing, leading me to question the validity of the declaration that the next Leap Day Release Date is in 20 years. (I personally can't check right now). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 06:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
-: I note that the Trivia sections of [[390: Nightmares]] and [[1023: Late-Night PBS]] are similarly garbled with the same incorrect information.  I also note that UTC timestamps on here are 5:15 ahead of Eastern time where I am. I thought UTC was the middle of the ocean, this is 15 minutes past Greenwich. Even if the number of hours is right, the 15 minutes shouldn't be - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 07:51, 2 March 2016 (UTC) So's this! [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
+: I note that the Trivia sections of [[390: Nightmares]] and [[1023: Late-Night PBS]] are similarly garbled with the same incorrect information.  I also note that UTC timestamps on here are 5:15 ahead of Eastern time where I am. I thought UTC was the middle of the ocean, this is 15 minutes past Greenwich. Even if the number of hours is right, the 15 minutes shouldn't be - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 07:51, 2 March 2016 (UTC) So's this! (and I note timestamps are now +4 hours from Eastern. Like I said, middle of the ocean). :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 :: I'm the guy who added the leap day stuff on this one originally; when I did that, the other two comics' pages didn't mention leap days at all. I most definitely did not say anything about Fridays, or indeed any other days of the week other than the "if MWF schedule continues next one will be 2036" part; I certainly would not have claimed that February 29, 2016 was in some way a Friday. (UTC is basically Greenwich, incidentally. But yes, 15 minutes past Greenwich - maybe 16 or 17 - seems about right for UTC timestamps here. Is it faulty time on the server?) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.180.203|162.158.180.203]] 06:30, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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 [[User:Bgaskin|Bgaskin]] ([[User talk:Bgaskin|talk]]) 23:50, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
-The Trivia section speaks of Leap Day comics, describing another as being "also like this one on a Friday in 2008". That implies Leap Day yesterday was a Friday. It was not, Leap Day was a Monday this year (as was the release date of this comic). ???? Other phrasing in the Trivia section uses similarly incorrect phrasing, leading me to question the validity of the declaration that the next Leap Day Release Date is in 20 years. (I personally can't check right now). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 06:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
+The Trivia section speaks of Leap Day comics, describing another as being "also like this one on a Friday in 2008". That implies Leap Day yesterday was a Friday. It was not, Leap Day was a Monday this year (as was the release date of this comic). ???? Other phrasing in the Trivia section uses similarly incorrect phrasing, leading me to question the validity of the declaration that the next Leap Day Release Date is in 20 years. (I personally can't check right now). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 06:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
-: I note that the Trivia sections of [[390: Nightmares]] and [[1023: Late-Night PBS]] are similarly garbled with the same incorrect information.  I also note that UTC timestamps on here are 5:15 ahead of Eastern time where I am. I thought UTC was the middle of the ocean, this is 15 minutes past Greenwich. Even if the number of hours is right, the 15 minutes shouldn't be - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 07:51, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
+: I note that the Trivia sections of [[390: Nightmares]] and [[1023: Late-Night PBS]] are similarly garbled with the same incorrect information.  I also note that UTC timestamps on here are 5:15 ahead of Eastern time where I am. I thought UTC was the middle of the ocean, this is 15 minutes past Greenwich. Even if the number of hours is right, the 15 minutes shouldn't be - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148|108.162.218.148]] 07:51, 2 March 2016 (UTC) So's this! [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 :: I'm the guy who added the leap day stuff on this one originally; when I did that, the other two comics' pages didn't mention leap days at all. I most definitely did not say anything about Fridays, or indeed any other days of the week other than the "if MWF schedule continues next one will be 2036" part; I certainly would not have claimed that February 29, 2016 was in some way a Friday. (UTC is basically Greenwich, incidentally. But yes, 15 minutes past Greenwich - maybe 16 or 17 - seems about right for UTC timestamps here. Is it faulty time on the server?) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.180.203|162.158.180.203]] 06:30, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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 :But what about the additional wine produced in America?  You only took into account the wine consumed. --[[User:Effy|Effy]] ([[User talk:Effy|talk]]) 10:15, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 :Also, I recalculated from the article you linked to and got a figure much closer to 18 cm.  Maybe check your calculations?  When I take 893M gallons and convert to cubic meters I get about 3.38 million, not just over 4 million.  This would perhaps suggest that each pipe in the comic is either matter produced OR consumed, but not both added together.  --[[User:Effy|Effy]] ([[User talk:Effy|talk]]) 10:33, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
-::Oh yes, US gallons are not UK Gallons.........
+::Oh yes, US gallons are not UK Gallons......... {{unsigned|Zeimusu}}
 :One last comment:  I corrected the table per above, I hope that's okay.  However, I noticed that if we use wine produced instead of wine consumed, the pipe comes out to 17.9 cm instead of 18.5.  Perhaps that was what the pipe was intended for?  (I guess the extra wine will need to imported with a transatlantic pipeline.)  See: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wine-producing_countries List of wine-producing countries].  --[[User:Effy|Effy]] ([[User talk:Effy|talk]]) 10:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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 :But what about the additional wine produced in America?  You only took into account the wine consumed. --[[User:Effy|Effy]] ([[User talk:Effy|talk]]) 10:15, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 :Also, I recalculated from the article you linked to and got a figure much closer to 18 cm.  Maybe check your calculations?  When I take 893M gallons and convert to cubic meters I get about 3.38 million, not just over 4 million.  This would perhaps suggest that each pipe in the comic is either matter produced OR consumed, but not both added together.  --[[User:Effy|Effy]] ([[User talk:Effy|talk]]) 10:33, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 :One last comment:  I corrected the table per above, I hope that's okay.  However, I noticed that if we use wine produced instead of wine consumed, the pipe comes out to 17.9 cm instead of 18.5.  Perhaps that was what the pipe was intended for?  (I guess the extra wine will need to imported with a transatlantic pipeline.)  See: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wine-producing_countries List of wine-producing countries].  --[[User:Effy|Effy]] ([[User talk:Effy|talk]]) 10:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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	Checking some numbers - Meat seems consistent with [http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/286014/sb965f_1_.pdf this USDA report] (I got ''32.1 GL''), but Milk Consumption (''29.8 GL'') was way off - mainly I think because it was based on consumption - not production. Using the numbers listed of "all dairy products" is ''86.3 GL'', which isn't right either - but closer. Cheese (''4.44 GL'') was also off. In the small pipes, based upon a report [https://ladyofthecakes.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/who-eats-the-most-mayonnaise-ketchup-mustard/ here], Mayo (''0.656 GL''), Ketchup (''0.687 GL'') were way off. Mustard (''0.106 GL'') wasn't that far off. Further investigation is coming as I find the time, but it seems that production numbers were used more than consumption numbers - (consistent with the note of "pipes overlap" - obviously you can't consume something that's been used in something else). --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 18:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)		Checking some numbers - Meat seems consistent with [http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/286014/sb965f_1_.pdf this USDA report] (I got ''32.1 GL''), but Milk Consumption (''29.8 GL'') was way off - mainly I think because it was based on consumption - not production. Using the numbers listed of "all dairy products" is ''86.3 GL'', which isn't right either - but closer. Cheese (''4.44 GL'') was also off. In the small pipes, based upon a report [https://ladyofthecakes.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/who-eats-the-most-mayonnaise-ketchup-mustard/ here], Mayo (''0.656 GL''), Ketchup (''0.687 GL'') were way off. Mustard (''0.106 GL'') wasn't that far off. Further investigation is coming as I find the time, but it seems that production numbers were used more than consumption numbers - (consistent with the note of "pipes overlap" - obviously you can't consume something that's been used in something else). --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 18:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
−	: Ok after review of Saliva Pools 500 mL/day figure (stated within this last month), the population should product 59.9 GL of Saliva. Comparing with the 71.6 GL listed shows that the saliva pipe should have a diameter of 77.8 cm. Applying this scaling to "not-meg" gives a height of 165 cm - which matches [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=average%20height%20of%20a%20woman with what Google says] for Average woman height. I'll rescale everything in the lower panel to match unless I see a disagreement.	+	: Ok after review of Saliva Pools 500 mL/day figure (stated within this last month), the population should product 59.9 GL of Saliva. Comparing with the 71.6 GL listed shows that the saliva pipe should have a diameter of 77.8 cm. Applying this scaling to "not-meg" gives a height of 165 cm - which matches [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=average%20height%20of%20a%20woman with what Google says] for Average woman height. I'll rescale everything in the lower panel to match unless I see a disagreement. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 19:20, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

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	Interesting that Randall doesn't include a pipe for air, a fluid consumed in great quantities in the country. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.74\|162.158.255.74]] 11:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)		Interesting that Randall doesn't include a pipe for air, a fluid consumed in great quantities in the country. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.74\|162.158.255.74]] 11:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Checking some numbers - Meat seems consistent with [http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/286014/sb965f_1_.pdf this USDA report] (I got ''32.1 GL''), but Milk Consumption (''29.8 GL'') was way off - mainly I think because it was based on consumption - not production. Using the numbers listed of "all dairy products" is ''86.3 GL'', which isn't right either - but closer. Cheese (''4.44 GL'') was also off. In the small pipes, based upon a report [https://ladyofthecakes.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/who-eats-the-most-mayonnaise-ketchup-mustard/ here], Mayo (''0.656 GL''), Ketchup (''0.687 GL'') were way off. Mustard (''0.106 GL'') wasn't that far off. Further investigation is coming as I find the time, but it seems that production numbers were used more than consumption numbers - (consistent with the note of "pipes overlap" - obviously you can't consume something that's been used in something else). --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.106.47\|188.114.106.47]] 18:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

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	The Trivia section speaks of Leap Day comics, describing another as being "also like this one on a Friday in 2008". That implies Leap Day yesterday was a Friday. It was not, Leap Day was a Monday this year (as was the release date of this comic). ???? Other phrasing in the Trivia section uses similarly incorrect phrasing, leading me to question the validity of the declaration that the next Leap Day Release Date is in 20 years. (I personally can't check right now). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148\|108.162.218.148]] 06:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)		The Trivia section speaks of Leap Day comics, describing another as being "also like this one on a Friday in 2008". That implies Leap Day yesterday was a Friday. It was not, Leap Day was a Monday this year (as was the release date of this comic). ???? Other phrasing in the Trivia section uses similarly incorrect phrasing, leading me to question the validity of the declaration that the next Leap Day Release Date is in 20 years. (I personally can't check right now). - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148\|108.162.218.148]] 06:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
	: I note that the Trivia sections of [[390: Nightmares]] and [[1023: Late-Night PBS]] are similarly garbled with the same incorrect information. I also note that UTC timestamps on here are 5:15 ahead of Eastern time where I am. I thought UTC was the middle of the ocean, this is 15 minutes past Greenwich. Even if the number of hours is right, the 15 minutes shouldn't be - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148\|108.162.218.148]] 07:51, 2 March 2016 (UTC)		: I note that the Trivia sections of [[390: Nightmares]] and [[1023: Late-Night PBS]] are similarly garbled with the same incorrect information. I also note that UTC timestamps on here are 5:15 ahead of Eastern time where I am. I thought UTC was the middle of the ocean, this is 15 minutes past Greenwich. Even if the number of hours is right, the 15 minutes shouldn't be - NiceGuy1 [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.148\|108.162.218.148]] 07:51, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Interesting that Randall doesn't include a pipe for air, a fluid consumed in great quantities in the country. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.255.74\|162.158.255.74]] 11:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)