Talk:1770: UI Change - Revision history

92.17.62.87: Undo revision 387631 by 75.172.15.125 (talk) Small things amuse small minds...

2025-09-28T22:30:06Z

Undo revision 387631 by 75.172.15.125 (talk) Small things amuse small minds...

75.172.15.125 at 21:51, 28 September 2025

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172.70.175.209 at 13:01, 5 March 2024

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Davidy22 at 16:49, 14 December 2016

2016-12-14T16:49:59Z

108.162.221.213: Changes to the hardware keys on Android devices, & the increasing complexity of previously simple tasks.

2016-12-13T20:30:41Z

Changes to the hardware keys on Android devices, & the increasing complexity of previously simple tasks.

188.114.111.117: add reference to political message

2016-12-10T20:59:58Z

add reference to political message

162.158.2.60: I'm an idiot

2016-12-10T11:12:13Z

I'm an idiot

162.158.2.60 at 11:10, 10 December 2016

2016-12-10T11:10:28Z

Davidy22 at 09:47, 10 December 2016

2016-12-10T09:47:49Z

172.68.51.47 at 09:36, 10 December 2016

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 Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning!  Comments are broken![[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
-Pretty funny how the explainer so far focused on physical deterioration (old people's bodies beginning to fail) with respect to the offscreen comment. Randall is an environmentalist like everyone else, but even he clearly acknowledges in this comic that the point is mental deterioration and intelligence decrease yourmom to grasp things such as interfaces as fast as before. It's not about motor performance at all. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip|162.158.203.145}}
+Pretty funny how the explainer so far focused on physical deterioration (old people's bodies beginning to fail) with respect to the offscreen comment. Randall is an environmentalist like everyone else, but even he clearly acknowledges in this comic that the point is mental deterioration and intelligence decrease with age -- failure to grasp things such as interfaces as fast as before. It's not about motor performance at all. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip|162.158.203.145}}
 :That's somewhat right, but I think that getting old means that you find it much harder to understand new things, but the things you could always do well you still can, except into much older ages. But I have no proof of this, it's just my experience. I'm open to being proved wrong by a study. Also, please don't nowiki your "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" at the end of your comment, it defeats the purpose. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.2.60|162.158.2.60]] 11:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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 Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning!  Comments are broken![[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
-Pretty funny how the explainer so far focused on physical deterioration (old people's bodies beginning to fail) with respect to the offscreen comment. Randall is an environmentalist like everyone else, but even he clearly acknowledges in this comic that the point is mental deterioration and intelligence decrease with age -- failure to grasp things such as interfaces as fast as before. It's not about motor performance at all. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip|162.158.203.145}}
+Pretty funny how the explainer so far focused on physical deterioration (old people's bodies beginning to fail) with respect to the offscreen comment. Randall is an environmentalist like everyone else, but even he clearly acknowledges in this comic that the point is mental deterioration and intelligence decrease yourmom to grasp things such as interfaces as fast as before. It's not about motor performance at all. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip|162.158.203.145}}
 :That's somewhat right, but I think that getting old means that you find it much harder to understand new things, but the things you could always do well you still can, except into much older ages. But I have no proof of this, it's just my experience. I'm open to being proved wrong by a study. Also, please don't nowiki your "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" at the end of your comment, it defeats the purpose. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.2.60|162.158.2.60]] 11:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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	This is an obvious political reference to Trump and the latest Social Justice improvements. Take a step back and you'll see the big picture. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.111.117\|188.114.111.117]] 20:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)		This is an obvious political reference to Trump and the latest Social Justice improvements. Take a step back and you'll see the big picture. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.111.117\|188.114.111.117]] 20:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
	:TANJ! (There Ain't No Justice) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.213\|108.162.221.213]] 20:30, 13 December 2016 (UTC)		:TANJ! (There Ain't No Justice) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.213\|108.162.221.213]] 20:30, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
		+	:No, I don't think so. Nothing in the comic seems to imply politics at all, much less Trump or SJ specifically.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.209\|172.70.175.209]] 13:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Just noticed yesterday my fonts in MS Office looked funny. Oh, they designed a brand new font and made it the default for the planet. (Gee, thanks, how about some bug fixes?) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.175.209\|172.70.175.209]] 13:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning! Comments are broken![[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)		Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning! Comments are broken![[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

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 Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning!  Comments are broken![[User:Seebert|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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 Title text scenario: the ''Windows 8 removed START button'' was reintroduced first via community hacks ("classic shell"), then officially with version 8.1 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8#Upgraded_versions (ref.WIKI)] and is still there now (W10 - but, how long for?): sometimes it just makes sense to go back, IF/WHEN possible [[Special:Contributions/162.158.150.218|162.158.150.218]] 15:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 The title text has two levels: both Application interfaces and getting old.  Randall is likely referencing Google's Calico lab which made a minor media buzz in 2013 with headlines like CNN's, "How Google's Calico aims to fight aging and 'solve death'.  The MSN feed recently featured one of these stories along with Microsoft trying to "solve" cancer. {{unsigned ip|162.158.58.52}}
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 I'm not sure the "getting old" refers to loss of physical and mental function so much as "arbitrary" changes in society's "user interface": newspapers disappearing, face-to-face socializing being displaced by on-line interactions, job discrimination against older workers (especially those who haven't updated their skills), etc. {{unsigned ip|162.158.214.64}}
+:I agree, the comment about "getting old" seems more relevant to changes in society than changes in one's body. Many processes which were once relatively simple have been made fully electronic, or deprecated entirely; For instance, customer assistance that was once a phone call away is now often hidden behind an extensive menu system, if it is available at all. "Electronic billing" generally does NOT send you a bill, but rather requires you to go log into a website to retrieve it. Forms & services which were previously relatively straightforward may now be complicated by extensive anti-fraud measures. Devices that once had only basic controls like "Power" & "Play" may now involve multiple steps to perform a single action. "The cloud" (off-site 3rd party service) is now used for many features which previously were performed locally within the device itself, resulting in additional Connection, Login, Buffering, Conversion, (Re-re-re-)Retransmission, & battery considerations. In many ways, our new-gen digital systems are less convenient than in years past. Even YouTube is bloated & over-complicated compared to what it was in 2001. (ProTip: Use the "Embed" links to get a lightweight video page that plays well on older machines, without any of the unnecessary gak around the edges.) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.213|108.162.221.213]] 20:30, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 Maybe a reference to the reddit iOS app randomly swapping the positions of upvote/downvote and the share button? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.30|162.158.75.30]] 15:22, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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 This is an obvious political reference to Trump and the latest Social Justice improvements. Take a step back and you'll see the big picture. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.111.117|188.114.111.117]] 20:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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		+	This is an obvious political reference to Trump and the latest Social Justice improvements. Take a step back and you'll see the big picture. --[[Special:Contributions/188.114.111.117\|188.114.111.117]] 20:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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	Pretty funny how the explainer so far focused on physical deterioration (old people's bodies beginning to fail) with respect to the offscreen comment. Randall is an environmentalist like everyone else, but even he clearly acknowledges in this comic that the point is mental deterioration and intelligence decrease with age -- failure to grasp things such as interfaces as fast as before. It's not about motor performance at all. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip\|162.158.203.145}}		Pretty funny how the explainer so far focused on physical deterioration (old people's bodies beginning to fail) with respect to the offscreen comment. Randall is an environmentalist like everyone else, but even he clearly acknowledges in this comic that the point is mental deterioration and intelligence decrease with age -- failure to grasp things such as interfaces as fast as before. It's not about motor performance at all. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{unsigned ip\|162.158.203.145}}
		+	:That's somewhat right, but I think that getting old means that you find it much harder to understand new things, but the things you could always do well you still can, except into much older ages. But I have no proof of this, it's just my experience. I'm open to being proved wrong by a study. Also, please don't nowiki your "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" at the end of your comment, it defeats the purpose.

	Title text scenario: the ''Windows 8 removed START button'' was reintroduced first via community hacks ("classic shell"), then officially with version 8.1 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8#Upgraded_versions (ref.WIKI)] and is still there now (W10 - but, how long for?): sometimes it just makes sense to go back, IF/WHEN possible [[Special:Contributions/162.158.150.218\|162.158.150.218]] 15:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)		Title text scenario: the ''Windows 8 removed START button'' was reintroduced first via community hacks ("classic shell"), then officially with version 8.1 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8#Upgraded_versions (ref.WIKI)] and is still there now (W10 - but, how long for?): sometimes it just makes sense to go back, IF/WHEN possible [[Special:Contributions/162.158.150.218\|162.158.150.218]] 15:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

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	Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning! Comments are broken![[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)		Man, Facebook Android App did this just this morning! Comments are broken![[User:Seebert\|Seebert]] ([[User talk:Seebert\|talk]]) 14:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)