Talk:1934: Phone Security - Revision history

172.70.160.218 at 21:08, 28 March 2025

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Bb777 at 19:57, 28 March 2025

2025-03-28T19:57:55Z

Bb777 at 19:57, 28 March 2025

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R3TRI8UTI0N at 03:28, 27 July 2023

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R3TRI8UTI0N at 02:49, 7 April 2023

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Herobrine at 13:45, 18 March 2018

2018-03-18T13:45:43Z

Jaalenja: Undo revision 150112 by Kaizen (talk) (vandalism)

2018-01-02T10:54:21Z

Undo revision 150112 by Kaizen (talk) (vandalism)

Kaizen: Replaced content with "Your site has a lot of useful information for myself. I visit regularly. Hope to have more quality items. http://flipdiving.online"

2018-01-02T09:52:41Z

Replaced content with "Your site has a lot of useful information for myself. I visit regularly. Hope to have more quality items. http://flipdiving.online"

108.162.212.107 at 19:08, 30 December 2017

2017-12-30T19:08:20Z

Hkmaly at 23:36, 29 December 2017

2017-12-29T23:36:59Z

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	:I was not here "last year". anybody got links to show me?--[[User:Bb777\|me, hi]] ([[User talk:Bb777\|talk]]) 19:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC)		:I was not here "last year". anybody got links to show me?--[[User:Bb777\|me, hi]] ([[User talk:Bb777\|talk]]) 19:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
		+	::Likely that would be the whole {{w\|Samsung Galaxy Note 7#Battery explosions and recalls\|bad battery thing}}.
		+	::Of course, the comic was published before {{w\|2024 Lebanon electronic device attacks\|this other thing happened}}, so nothing to do with that. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.160.218\|172.70.160.218]] 21:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

	Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)		Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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 ::Already done. http://www.zdnet.com/article/this-crypto-mining-android-malware-is-so-demanding-it-burst-a-smartphone/ [[User:Silverpie|Silverpie]] ([[User talk:Silverpie|talk]]) 23:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
-:I was not here "last year". anybody got links to show me?
+:I was not here "last year". anybody got links to show me?--[[User:Bb777|me, hi]] ([[User talk:Bb777|talk]]) 19:57, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
 Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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	::Already done. http://www.zdnet.com/article/this-crypto-mining-android-malware-is-so-demanding-it-burst-a-smartphone/ [[User:Silverpie\|Silverpie]] ([[User talk:Silverpie\|talk]]) 23:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)		::Already done. http://www.zdnet.com/article/this-crypto-mining-android-malware-is-so-demanding-it-burst-a-smartphone/ [[User:Silverpie\|Silverpie]] ([[User talk:Silverpie\|talk]]) 23:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	:I was not here "last year". anybody got links to show me?

	Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)		Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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	Hahaha!!! Waiting for the iOS update with all these features... [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 13:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)		Hahaha!!! Waiting for the iOS update with all these features... [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 13:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

−	Removed the bit about the 5mph car being similar to the plot of the movie "{{w\|It Follows}}". This trope of something stalking someone is too generic to warrant the mention of a specific movie.	+	Removed the bit about the 5mph car being similar to the plot of the movie "{{w\|It Follows}}". This trope of something stalking someone is too generic to warrant the mention of a specific movie. I commented this on 7 April but forgot to type the wavy thingy. Now, it's 27 July. [[User:R3TRI8UTI0N\|R3TRI8UTI0N]] ([[User talk:R3TRI8UTI0N\|talk]]) 03:28, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

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	Hahaha!!! Waiting for the iOS update with all these features... [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 13:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)		Hahaha!!! Waiting for the iOS update with all these features... [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 13:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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		+	Removed the bit about the 5mph car being similar to the plot of the movie "{{w\|It Follows}}". This trope of something stalking someone is too generic to warrant the mention of a specific movie.

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	I first thought "erase phone" meant "erase physically", but "detonate" makes that somewhat redundant. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.240\|141.101.105.240]] 11:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)		I first thought "erase phone" meant "erase physically", but "detonate" makes that somewhat redundant. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.240\|141.101.105.240]] 11:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	Hahaha!!! Waiting for the iOS update with all these features... [[User:Herobrine\|Herobrine]] ([[User talk:Herobrine\|talk]]) 13:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

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−	~~Your site has~~ a ~~lot~~ of ~~useful information~~ for ~~myself~~. I ~~visit regularly~~. ~~Hope~~ to have ~~more quality items~~.	+	<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->
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		+	"Detonated" ah, so this is the feature that Samsung was prototyping last year... [[User:Andyd273\|Andyd273]] ([[User talk:Andyd273\|talk]]) 15:39, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	:Ha! Yes, it's too bad their phones kept mistakenly registering as being stolen... stupid bugs. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.107\|172.69.70.107]] 17:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC) Sam
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		+	:Back in the day if a hacker really hated you, you'd come back to your computer and see smoke pouring out of the CPU. I bet there's some way to detonate a phone in software by overheating the battery, but I imagine it could be different for every phone/battery combination. {{unsigned ip\| 108.162.219.64}}
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		+	::Already done. http://www.zdnet.com/article/this-crypto-mining-android-malware-is-so-demanding-it-burst-a-smartphone/ [[User:Silverpie\|Silverpie]] ([[User talk:Silverpie\|talk]]) 23:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	: there was or is at least one house in the U.S. that was reported, apparently inaccurately, as the location of an extraordinary number of stolen cell phones. Presumably that house would suffer all of the pranks that this phone security performs. As for payment details - someone who stole a phone may have also stolen banking cards, so, the account number that you steal back may belong to another innocent victim. It's just a joke of course, but, saying. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.235\|162.158.111.235]] 22:02, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	Made a account just to ask this - why is the post still considered incomplete? It looks complete to me. [[User:Donutman\|Donutman]] ([[User talk:Donutman\|talk]]) 13:59, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	: Because I added the core explanation, but many improvements have been made since then (bullet points, bolding, transcript). Also, the siren would be insanely easy to do, as would an automated "send the GPS location to the police" among other things. [[User:Kashim\|Kashim]] ([[User talk:Kashim\|talk]]) 14:15, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
		+	::I've removed the tag right now after I added that the phone would have to sense that it is stolen. There is no sensor to detect this. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
		+	:::Bluetooth. With paired device on owner, the phone can detect if it was moved from owner. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
		+	:::: No good. Firstly, no phone (that I know of) comes with such a device, which I would guess would be called a dongle. Secondly, if they did it wouldn't take long for thieves to realize they have to get the dongle, too. Thirdly, that would mean the owner could never put down their phone, like at home or at work - I've heard of a few workplaces which are high security and don't allow cell phones, so they have to be left in the car or in a locker near the entrance - unless they remember to put down the device too (which would largely defeat the purpose of such a device). And the first time they forget and the phone identified itself as stolen would be enough to convince the rightful owner that this system doesn't work. Fourthly, anything wireless must work by battery. When that battery dies, either the phone would trigger as being stolen, or it would have to detect the battery dying to not go off, in which case you're vulnerable to theft until you charge the ownership dongle. [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 09:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
		+	:::::All points you raised are real, but don't make it impossible. Sure, it would be bad idea to detonate or something like that when the dongle gets out of range, but it can be used to start making noise (the siren option). For the other countermeasures, the phone should detect being stolen by incorrect password being entered repeatedly. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
		+	::::::Just to follow this up, for most of the countermeasures, it seems relatively clear that the phone would consider itself stolen when somebody tries to wipe it or enters the wrong password too many times. The owner would have some secret wiping procedure that performs a legitimate wipe, and when the phone is wiped using a normal procedure it considers itself stolen and engages all its countermeasures. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.212.107\|108.162.212.107]] 19:08, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
		+	: You didn't need an account to write a comment - any commenter name that's an IP address is such a guest commentor. I posted many before I created an account. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 09:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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		+	I first thought "erase phone" meant "erase physically", but "detonate" makes that somewhat redundant. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.240\|141.101.105.240]] 11:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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−	~~<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->~~	+	Your site has a lot of useful information for myself. I visit regularly. Hope to have more quality items.
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−	~~"Detonated" ah, so this is the feature that Samsung was prototyping last year... [[User:Andyd273\|Andyd273]] ([[User talk:Andyd273\|talk]]) 15:39, 27 December 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	~~:Ha! Yes, it's too bad their phones kept mistakenly registering as being stolen... stupid bugs. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.107\|172.69.70.107]] 17:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC) Sam~~
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−	~~:Back in the day if a hacker really hated you, you'd come back to your computer and see smoke pouring out of the CPU. I bet there's some way to detonate~~ a ~~phone in software by overheating the battery, but I imagine it could be different for every phone/battery combination. {{unsigned ip\| 108.162.219.64}}~~
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−	::Already done. http://www.zdnet.com/article/this-crypto-mining-android-malware-is-so-demanding-it-burst-a-smartphone/ [[User:Silverpie\|Silverpie]] ([[User talk:Silverpie\|talk]]) 23:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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−	Someone needs to make a jailbreak that does as much of this as possible, especially the ridesharing and siren 😂 [[User:PotatoGod\|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod\|talk]]) 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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−	: there was or is at least one house in the U.S. that was reported, apparently inaccurately, as the location of an extraordinary number of stolen cell phones. Presumably that house would suffer all of the pranks that this phone security performs. As for payment details - someone who stole a phone may have also stolen banking cards, so, the account number that you steal back may belong to another innocent victim. It's just a joke of course, but, saying. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.235\|162.158.111.235]] 22:02, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
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−	~~Made a account just to ask this - why is the post still considered incomplete? It looks complete to me. [[User:Donutman\|Donutman]] ([[User talk:Donutman\|talk]]) 13:59, 28 December 2017 (UTC)~~
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−	: Because I added the core explanation, but many improvements have been made since then (bullet points, bolding, transcript). Also, the siren would be insanely easy to do, as would an automated "send the GPS location to the police" among other things. [[User:Kashim\|Kashim]] ([[User talk:Kashim\|talk]]) 14:15, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
−	::I've removed the tag right now after I added that the phone would have to sense that it is stolen. There is no sensor to detect this. --[[User:Dgbrt\|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt\|talk]]) 19:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
−	~~:::Bluetooth. With paired device on owner, the phone can detect if it was moved from owner. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 01:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC)~~
−	~~:::: No good. Firstly, no phone (that I know~~ of~~) comes with such a device, which I would guess would be called a dongle. Secondly, if they did it wouldn't take long~~ for ~~thieves to realize they have to get the dongle, too~~. ~~Thirdly, that would mean the owner could never put down their phone, like at home or at work -~~ I've heard of a few workplaces which are high security and don't allow cell phones, so they have to be left in the car or in a locker near the entrance - unless they remember to put down the device too (which would largely defeat the purpose of such a device). ~~And the first time they forget and the phone identified itself as stolen would be enough~~ to ~~convince the rightful owner that this system doesn't work. Fourthly, anything wireless must work by battery. When that battery dies, either the phone would trigger as being stolen, or it would~~ have ~~to detect the battery dying to not go off, in which case you're vulnerable to theft until you charge the ownership dongle~~. ~~[[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 09:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)~~
−	:::::All points you raised are real, but don't make it impossible. Sure, it would be bad idea to detonate or something like that when the dongle gets out of range, but it can be used to start making noise (the siren option). For the other countermeasures, the phone should detect being stolen by incorrect password being entered repeatedly. -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 23:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
−	::::::Just to follow this up, for most of the countermeasures, it seems relatively clear that the phone would consider itself stolen when somebody tries to wipe it or enters the wrong password too many times. The owner would have some secret wiping procedure that performs a legitimate wipe, and when the phone is wiped using a normal procedure it considers itself stolen and engages all its countermeasures. [[Special:Contributions/~~108.162.212.107\|108.162.212.107]] 19:08, 30 December 2017 (UTC)~~
−	: You didn't need an account to write a comment - any commenter name that's an IP address is such a guest commentor. I posted many before I created an account. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 09:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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−	~~I first thought "erase phone" meant "erase physically", but "detonate" makes that somewhat redundant. [[Special:Contributions~~/~~141.101.105~~.~~240\|141.101.105.240]] 11:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)~~

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 :::: No good. Firstly, no phone (that I know of) comes with such a device, which I would guess would be called a dongle. Secondly, if they did it wouldn't take long for thieves to realize they have to get the dongle, too. Thirdly, that would mean the owner could never put down their phone, like at home or at work - I've heard of a few workplaces which are high security and don't allow cell phones, so they have to be left in the car or in a locker near the entrance - unless they remember to put down the device too (which would largely defeat the purpose of such a device). And the first time they forget and the phone identified itself as stolen would be enough to convince the rightful owner that this system doesn't work. Fourthly, anything wireless must work by battery. When that battery dies, either the phone would trigger as being stolen, or it would have to detect the battery dying to not go off, in which case you're vulnerable to theft until you charge the ownership dongle. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 09:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 :::::All points you raised are real, but don't make it impossible. Sure, it would be bad idea to detonate or something like that when the dongle gets out of range, but it can be used to start making noise (the siren option). For the other countermeasures, the phone should detect being stolen by incorrect password being entered repeatedly. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 : You didn't  need an account to write a comment - any commenter name that's an IP address is such a guest commentor. I posted many before I created an account. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 09:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 I first thought "erase phone" meant "erase physically", but "detonate" makes that somewhat redundant. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.240|141.101.105.240]] 11:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)