Talk:1962: Generations - Revision history

Nitpicking: smiley

2023-02-20T19:49:51Z

smiley

Orion205 at 23:14, 18 August 2022

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162.158.159.73 at 12:33, 18 August 2022

2022-08-18T12:33:27Z

108.162.246.116: Questioning the validity of a old and false assertion

2022-08-18T12:02:58Z

Questioning the validity of a old and false assertion

162.158.159.121 at 03:22, 19 June 2022

2022-06-19T03:22:03Z

Nitpicking: Length of a generation

2022-06-19T00:35:42Z

Length of a generation

162.158.158.33: What do the young know?

2019-08-13T09:02:43Z

What do the young know?

162.158.63.100 at 01:56, 18 June 2018

2018-06-18T01:56:40Z

Hkmaly at 23:49, 7 March 2018

2018-03-07T23:49:32Z

172.69.69.172 at 18:04, 5 March 2018

2018-03-05T18:04:04Z

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	—••— means X in Morse code [[User:Inexorably advancing wall of ice\|Inexorably advancing wall of ice]] ([[User talk:Inexorably advancing wall of ice\|talk]]) 18:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)		—••— means X in Morse code [[User:Inexorably advancing wall of ice\|Inexorably advancing wall of ice]] ([[User talk:Inexorably advancing wall of ice\|talk]]) 18:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
		+	:I originally read it as "sunglasses smiley", of the same style as ";)" [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 19:49, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

	But seriously, it was funny the first time. I'm sorry for the above incomplete tag in the comments{{Citation needed}},but it feels like most comics since maybe #1900 ([[1914: Twitter Verification]] comes to mind...) have this kind of thing for their incomplete tag. Maybe if it's spaced out more, instead of put into nearly every comic nowadays, it won't be so much of a problem. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.184\|162.158.75.184]] 18:02, 2 March 2018 (UTC)		But seriously, it was funny the first time. I'm sorry for the above incomplete tag in the comments{{Citation needed}},but it feels like most comics since maybe #1900 ([[1914: Twitter Verification]] comes to mind...) have this kind of thing for their incomplete tag. Maybe if it's spaced out more, instead of put into nearly every comic nowadays, it won't be so much of a problem. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.184\|162.158.75.184]] 18:02, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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	:Of course "Hitler's Generation" and even "Lincoln's Generation" are also geographically ''and'' socially a subset of the temporal bracketting (of those born when their figurehead was prominant, not at the time their future-figrehead was born), with connotations of their own, for good or ill according to the eye of the beholder.		:Of course "Hitler's Generation" and even "Lincoln's Generation" are also geographically ''and'' socially a subset of the temporal bracketting (of those born when their figurehead was prominant, not at the time their future-figrehead was born), with connotations of their own, for good or ill according to the eye of the beholder.
	:...So it's bad phrasing, but I can imagine why it was written. Not quite how to succinctly write it better, though, even to my own satisfsction. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.73\|162.158.159.73]] 12:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)		:...So it's bad phrasing, but I can imagine why it was written. Not quite how to succinctly write it better, though, even to my own satisfsction. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.73\|162.158.159.73]] 12:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Now I can't see this page when I'm logged in. I can see it fine when logged out. Error when logged in is:
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		+	Original exception: [Yv7GONoeKp91oLam6dPHcQAAAFY] 2022-08-18 23:07:36: Fatal exception of type "MWException"
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	“ This also implies that Napoleon's generation was named after him.” Why does it say this when there is absolutely no such implication? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.116\|108.162.246.116]] 12:02, 18 August 2022 (UTC)		“ This also implies that Napoleon's generation was named after him.” Why does it say this when there is absolutely no such implication? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.116\|108.162.246.116]] 12:02, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
		+	:The others namechecked in Mixed Bag, (Hitler and Licoln) have generations here-named for (or, better, ''about'') them. I agree it's not quite right. Perhaps "This also implies that a neo-Napoleonic generation might have been named for their own neo-Napoleon". i.e. only because of the competing neo-Hitler/neo-Lincoln characters was it not, with the same caveat thst the ur-Napoleon was also snubbed (and his namesake successors, obviously). Perhaps or perhaps not for differing reasons but conceivably Wellington/etc supporters had mutually exclusively been adamant about which historic figure was Le Grande Fromage originally born amongst that cohort.
		+	:Of course "Hitler's Generation" and even "Lincoln's Generation" are also geographically ''and'' socially a subset of the temporal bracketting (of those born when their figurehead was prominant, not at the time their future-figrehead was born), with connotations of their own, for good or ill according to the eye of the beholder.
		+	:...So it's bad phrasing, but I can imagine why it was written. Not quite how to succinctly write it better, though, even to my own satisfsction. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.73\|162.158.159.73]] 12:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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	:It's the first time I've read(/noticed) that, and I'm not sure I would have said it myself, but... One generation in those days might well average at <26 years, so the intergenerational gap might be best considered as two such generations (e.g. like a great-uncle, being your grandfather's youngest brother, sort of age) rather than one (just an uncle, such as your mother's ''eldest'' brother), what with the tendency for early children ''and'' big families making the advance of generations more pertinent than their onward persistence through time.		:It's the first time I've read(/noticed) that, and I'm not sure I would have said it myself, but... One generation in those days might well average at <26 years, so the intergenerational gap might be best considered as two such generations (e.g. like a great-uncle, being your grandfather's youngest brother, sort of age) rather than one (just an uncle, such as your mother's ''eldest'' brother), what with the tendency for early children ''and'' big families making the advance of generations more pertinent than their onward persistence through time.
	:I may be overthinking it, but that sounds to me like a credible justification for the choice of words, should it not just be an error/thinko... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.121\|162.158.159.121]] 03:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)		:I may be overthinking it, but that sounds to me like a credible justification for the choice of words, should it not just be an error/thinko... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.121\|162.158.159.121]] 03:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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		+	“ This also implies that Napoleon's generation was named after him.” Why does it say this when there is absolutely no such implication? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.116\|108.162.246.116]] 12:02, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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	"1730 - 1747 Most of the United States' Founding Fathers were born in this period. (But not all: Benjamin Franklin, for instance, was born two generations prior, in 1706.)" So, since when is a generation 12 years? [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)		"1730 - 1747 Most of the United States' Founding Fathers were born in this period. (But not all: Benjamin Franklin, for instance, was born two generations prior, in 1706.)" So, since when is a generation 12 years? [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
		+	:It's the first time I've read(/noticed) that, and I'm not sure I would have said it myself, but... One generation in those days might well average at <26 years, so the intergenerational gap might be best considered as two such generations (e.g. like a great-uncle, being your grandfather's youngest brother, sort of age) rather than one (just an uncle, such as your mother's ''eldest'' brother), what with the tendency for early children ''and'' big families making the advance of generations more pertinent than their onward persistence through time.
		+	:I may be overthinking it, but that sounds to me like a credible justification for the choice of words, should it not just be an error/thinko... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.121\|162.158.159.121]] 03:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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	Generation X being the tenth generation of Americans seems a bit of a stretch. A generation is generally 35 years, and seems unlikely to be less than 20. And [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X#Origin_of_term Douglas Coupland], who coined this use of the term, used "X" as lazy shorthand for alienation and a rejection of societal norms. If no one objects, I'll update the text. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.33\|162.158.158.33]] 09:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)		Generation X being the tenth generation of Americans seems a bit of a stretch. A generation is generally 35 years, and seems unlikely to be less than 20. And [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X#Origin_of_term Douglas Coupland], who coined this use of the term, used "X" as lazy shorthand for alienation and a rejection of societal norms. If no one objects, I'll update the text. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.33\|162.158.158.33]] 09:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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		+	"1730 - 1747 Most of the United States' Founding Fathers were born in this period. (But not all: Benjamin Franklin, for instance, was born two generations prior, in 1706.)" So, since when is a generation 12 years? [[User:Nitpicking\|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking\|talk]]) 00:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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	Millennials were originally called "Echo Boomers" (after the Baby Boomers, and because most of them are that generation's kids), "Generation Y" came later but before "Millennials" stuck as a non-snowclone name. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.100\|162.158.63.100]] 01:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)		Millennials were originally called "Echo Boomers" (after the Baby Boomers, and because most of them are that generation's kids), "Generation Y" came later but before "Millennials" stuck as a non-snowclone name. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.100\|162.158.63.100]] 01:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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		+	Generation X being the tenth generation of Americans seems a bit of a stretch. A generation is generally 35 years, and seems unlikely to be less than 20. And [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X#Origin_of_term Douglas Coupland], who coined this use of the term, used "X" as lazy shorthand for alienation and a rejection of societal norms. If no one objects, I'll update the text. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.33\|162.158.158.33]] 09:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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	Why is there an incomplete tag in the transcript? What's wrong with it? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.148\|108.162.216.148]] 22:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)		Why is there an incomplete tag in the transcript? What's wrong with it? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.148\|108.162.216.148]] 22:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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		+	Millennials were originally called "Echo Boomers" (after the Baby Boomers, and because most of them are that generation's kids), "Generation Y" came later but before "Millennials" stuck as a non-snowclone name. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.63.100\|162.158.63.100]] 01:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

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 :Year 2378 may be explained by last episode of Voyager happening that year, but no idea about year 2360. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 00:59, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 ::Year 2360 is when the humans who became adults (18) in 2378 were born. This time-span is probably when the majority of human TNG characters would have been born (not necessarily notable ones). This is similar to how people born in 1982 became the first new adults in the new millenium. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.46.143|172.68.46.143]] 05:02, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 Filled in most of the table with explanations (I'm pretty sure most of the latter generation names are references to potential transhumanist futures), but I'm not sure what "Second-Greatest" Generation refers to unless it's about the Civil War.  Also, I'm not entirely certain whether the generation before the gilded one was cut a lot of slack.  And I'll let someone more versed in standard sociological history fill in the common reasons for the core 20th century generations.[[User:WingedCat|WingedCat]] ([[User talk:WingedCat|talk]]) 22:49, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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 ;Ω
 Wow that’s a lot of speculation on the Ω generation! 177 words of it! Who knew people could imagine so much inspired by a single character (and no historical context to extrapolate from). Personally, I tend to think of it as the “resistance generation” given my electronic background 😜. [[User:PotatoGod|PotatoGod]] ([[User talk:PotatoGod|talk]]) 15:11, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 Why is there an incomplete tag in the transcript? What's wrong with it? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.148|108.162.216.148]] 22:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)