Talk:2153: Effects of High Altitude - Revision history

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These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Notes on Scrabble portion of comic.

2019-05-27T05:20:04Z

Notes on Scrabble portion of comic.

Trlkly at 04:41, 26 May 2019

2019-05-26T04:41:53Z

162.158.114.52: adding toughts about Nena's lyrics.

2019-05-24T23:26:38Z

adding toughts about Nena's lyrics.

162.158.154.127 at 13:16, 24 May 2019

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162.158.154.241 at 09:34, 24 May 2019

2019-05-24T09:34:02Z

Probably not Douglas Hofstadter: Added a comment.

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Added a comment.

108.162.216.172 at 14:08, 23 May 2019

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	The Scrabble tiles' new scores aren't 16% higher. 4 > 5 is +25%, 8 > 9 is +12.5%, 10 > 12 is +20%. It seems that Randall rounded to the nearest whole number. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 05:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)		The Scrabble tiles' new scores aren't 16% higher. 4 > 5 is +25%, 8 > 9 is +12.5%, 10 > 12 is +20%. It seems that Randall rounded to the nearest whole number. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 05:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I recall 4:20 as being the time when detention at school ended. The naughty kids who were in detention would, at 4:20 be unsupervised enough to smoke a blunt. I think this was a high school in California USA [[Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:169E:1D16:6DDF:82F9:6F8B:916C\|2607:FB91:169E:1D16:6DDF:82F9:6F8B:916C]] 22:51, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

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−	~~Interesting discussion on how high altitude affects our bodies~~ and ~~perceptions~~. ~~Have~~ you ~~ever wondered how natural remedies like CBD might help~~ with altitude ~~sickness symptoms or improve overall well~~-being in ~~such environments? For those curious about exploring natural wellness~~, ~~CBD Flowers UK offers~~ a ~~great range~~ of ~~products~~: ~~https~~://~~gethemp~~.co.uk. ~~What’s your take~~ on ~~integrating CBD into health strategies~~ for ~~challenging conditions~~?	+	<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~ and don't delete this text. New comments should be added at the bottom.-->
		+	I don’t even know where to begin. [[User:Netherin5\|“That Guy from the Netherlands”]] ([[User talk:Netherin5\|talk]]) 18:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:Is that because in the netherlands you do not have any experience with the effects of high altitude? --[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 08:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Can anyone verify if the baseballs and golf balls actually fly further? I'd assume it's due to lower air density and therefore resistance, not weaker gravity as someone else had written. [[User:Cgrimes85\|Cgrimes85]] ([[User talk:Cgrimes85\|talk]]) 18:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:Both parts (air resistance and gravity) play a role here. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.51.106\|172.68.51.106]] 18:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	::At 1 mile altitude the acceleration due to gravity is only about 0.05% less than at sea level, so I don't think it's important relative to the lower air resistance. [[User:Cgrimes85\|Cgrimes85]] ([[User talk:Cgrimes85\|talk]]) 18:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:::The difference in gravity due to being 1 mile farther away from the center of the earth is negligible and due to having more mass(aka mountains) under them Denver actually has a slightly higher Local Gravitational Acceleration at 9.81112m/s^2 than say Los Angeles at 9.80636m/s^2. [https://www.wolframalpha.com/widgets/gallery/view.jsp?id=e856809e0d522d3153e2e7e8ec263bf2 wolfram alpha source] Decreased air resistance is the reason for flying further. [[User:Stickfigurefan\|Stickfigurefan]] ([[User talk:Stickfigurefan\|talk]]) 19:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:Note however that the spin-induced lift would be lower in the thinner air which would somewhat counteract the reduced gravity and air drag.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.4\|108.162.241.4]] 12:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:This is a fairly commonly recognized phenomenon. Many golf publications reference this. e.g. [https://www.titleist.com/teamtitleist/b/tourblog/posts/the-effect-of-altitude-golf-ball-aerodynamics Titleist post][[User:OhFFS\|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS\|talk]]) 21:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:This is also commonly recognized in baseball. For example, [this paper[http://baseball.physics.illinois.edu/Denver.html] argues that after the spin-induced lift reduction ball will still fly 5% farther in Denver than in Boston due to altitude.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.172\|108.162.216.172]] 14:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:Considering the negligible effect of gravity on balls distances (and boiling temperatures and sunburns for that matter), should we not just remove any references to gravity from the main explanation?[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.241\|162.158.154.241]] 09:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I'd say the last frame is a reference to 5 o'clock time for drinks. On urban dictionary there's a reference to 4:20 being the time to 'smoke the reefer' [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 18:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:It's definitely about weed, not liquor. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture) Wikipedia article on 420]. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 18:36, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:The frame says it's about marijuana. How is this one in question? [[User:OhFFS\|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS\|talk]]) 21:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Although the comic relates to nuclear war neither the original German text nor the English reworked text (it's definitely not a direct translation) refer to nuclear war. Both refer to unidentified objects however so I've adapted the explanation to that end. [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 19:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:There appears to be some debate around the UFOs. In my opinion the original German text should prevail (I'm Dutch, not German). The original lyrics state "hielt man für UFO's aus dem All"
		+	which means "thought they were UFOs from space". The English lyrics are not that definite. Anyway - a large 99 (or is it 94 at altitude?) year war broke out just because of some hyper-tense generals. [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	::The comic refers to "red" balloons, which which are only present in the English version. The original German text doesn't mention the color of the "Luftballons", so it's not so obvious that this version should prevail.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.240\|141.101.107.240]] 13:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Re: Nena: Currently listening to the English version. It does stick out somewhat that it is about "99 RED Baloons" -- Red Scare possibly involved in the translation? Also, both versions refer to Cptn. Kirk, who is infamous for his rather aggressive negotiation-techniques. sba
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		+	The "420" mile marker on Interstate 70 in Colorado was replaced by a "419.99" marker because it kept getting stolen. [http://loweringthebar.net/2014/01/colorado-removes-420-mile-marker.html]. [[User:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|Probably not Douglas Hofstadter]] ([[User talk:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|talk]]) 14:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Re: 101 Dalmatians: in the book there are 97 puppies and 4 adults (Pongo, Missis, Perdita and Prince), simplified in the film to 99 + 2.
		+	13:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:I noticed that, too, and fixed it with some parentheticals. I've noticed such level of detail is normal in these explanations. [[User:Trlkly\|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly\|talk]]) 04:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	'''Scrabble'''
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		+	The Scrabble tiles' new scores aren't 16% higher. 4 > 5 is +25%, 8 > 9 is +12.5%, 10 > 12 is +20%. It seems that Randall rounded to the nearest whole number. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 05:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

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−	~~<!--Please sign your posts with ~~~~~~ and ~~don't delete this text~~. ~~New comments should be added at the bottom.-->~~	+	Interesting discussion on how high altitude affects our bodies and perceptions. Have you ever wondered how natural remedies like CBD might help with altitude sickness symptoms or improve overall well-being in such environments? For those curious about exploring natural wellness, CBD Flowers UK offers a great range of products: https://gethemp.co.uk. What’s your take on integrating CBD into health strategies for challenging conditions?
−	~~I don’t even know where to begin. [[User:Netherin5\|“That Guy from the Netherlands”]] ([[User talk:Netherin5\|talk]]) 18:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)~~
−	~~:Is that because in the netherlands~~ you ~~do not have any experience~~ with ~~the effects of high~~ altitude? -~~-[[User:Lupo\|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo\|talk]]) 08:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)~~
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−	~~Can anyone verify if the baseballs and golf balls actually fly further~~? ~~I'd assume it's due to lower air density and therefore resistance, not weaker gravity as someone else had written. [[User:Cgrimes85\|Cgrimes85]] ([[User talk:Cgrimes85\|talk]]) 18:13~~, ~~22 May 2019 (UTC)~~
−	~~:Both parts (air resistance and gravity) play~~ a ~~role here. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.51.106\|172.68.51.106]] 18:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)~~
−	::At 1 mile altitude the acceleration due to gravity is only about 0.05% less than at sea level, so I don't think it's important relative to the lower air resistance. [[User:Cgrimes85\|Cgrimes85]] ([[User talk:Cgrimes85\|talk]]) 18:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
−	~~:::The difference in gravity due to being 1 mile farther away from the center~~ of the earth is negligible and due to having more mass(aka mountains) under them Denver actually has a slightly higher Local Gravitational Acceleration at 9.81112m/s^2 than say Los Angeles at 9.80636m/s^2. [https://www.wolframalpha.com/widgets/gallery/view.jsp?id=e856809e0d522d3153e2e7e8ec263bf2 wolfram alpha source] Decreased air resistance is the reason for flying further. [[User:Stickfigurefan\|Stickfigurefan]] ([[User talk:Stickfigurefan\|talk]]) 19:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
−	:Note however that the spin-induced lift would be lower in the thinner air which would somewhat counteract the reduced gravity and air drag.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.4\|108.162.241.4]] 12:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
−	~~:This is a fairly commonly recognized phenomenon. Many golf publications reference this. e.g. [~~https://~~www~~.~~titleist~~.~~com/teamtitleist/b/tourblog/posts/the-effect-of-altitude-golf-ball-aerodynamics Titleist post][[User:OhFFS\|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS\|talk]]) 21:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)~~
−	~~:This is also commonly recognized in baseball~~. For example, [this paper[http://baseball.physics.illinois.edu/Denver.html] argues that after the spin-induced lift reduction ball will still fly 5% farther in Denver than in Boston due to altitude.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.172\|108.162.216.172]] 14:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
−	~~:Considering the negligible effect of gravity~~ on balls distances (and boiling temperatures and sunburns for that matter), should we not just remove any references to gravity from the main explanation?[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.241\|162.158.154.241]] 09:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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−	~~I'd say the last frame is a reference to 5 o'clock time~~ for ~~drinks. On urban dictionary there's a reference to 4:20 being the time to 'smoke the reefer' [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 18:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)~~
−	:It's definitely about weed, not liquor. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture) Wikipedia article on 420]. [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 18:36, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
−	~~:The frame says it's about marijuana. How is this one in question~~? ~~[[User:OhFFS\|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS\|talk]]) 21:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)~~
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−	Although the comic relates to nuclear war neither the original German text nor the English reworked text (it's definitely not a direct translation) refer to nuclear war. Both refer to unidentified objects however so I've adapted the explanation to that end. [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 19:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
−	~~:There appears to be some debate around the UFOs. In my opinion the original German text should prevail (I'm Dutch, not German). The original lyrics state "hielt man für UFO's aus dem All"~~
−	which means "thought they were UFOs from space". The English lyrics are not that definite. Anyway - a large 99 (or is it 94 at altitude?) year war broke out just because of some hyper-tense generals. [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
−	::The comic refers to "red" balloons, which which are only present in the English version. The original German text doesn't mention the color of the "Luftballons", so it's not so obvious that this version should prevail.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.240\|141.101.107.240]] 13:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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−	Re: Nena: Currently listening to the English version. It does stick out somewhat that it is about "99 RED Baloons" -- Red Scare possibly involved in the translation? Also, both versions refer to Cptn. Kirk, who is infamous for his rather aggressive negotiation-techniques. sba
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−	The "420" mile marker on Interstate 70 in Colorado was replaced by a "419.99" marker because it kept getting stolen. [http://loweringthebar.net/2014/01/colorado-removes-420-mile-marker.html]. [[User:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|Probably not Douglas Hofstadter]] ([[User talk:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|talk]]) 14:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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−	~~Re: 101 Dalmatians: in the book there are 97 puppies and 4 adults (Pongo, Missis, Perdita and Prince), simplified in the film to 99 + 2.~~
−	~~13:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)~~
−	:I noticed that, too, and fixed it with some parentheticals. I've noticed such level of detail is normal in these explanations. [[User:Trlkly\|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly\|talk]]) 04:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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−	~~'''Scrabble'''~~
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−	The Scrabble tiles' new scores aren't 16% higher. 4 > 5 is +25%, 8 > 9 is +12.5%, 10 > 12 is +20%. It seems that Randall rounded to the nearest whole number. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 05:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

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	:I noticed that, too, and fixed it with some parentheticals. I've noticed such level of detail is normal in these explanations. [[User:Trlkly\|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly\|talk]]) 04:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)		:I noticed that, too, and fixed it with some parentheticals. I've noticed such level of detail is normal in these explanations. [[User:Trlkly\|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly\|talk]]) 04:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	'''Scrabble'''
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		+	The Scrabble tiles' new scores aren't 16% higher. 4 > 5 is +25%, 8 > 9 is +12.5%, 10 > 12 is +20%. It seems that Randall rounded to the nearest whole number. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 05:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

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	Re: 101 Dalmatians: in the book there are 97 puppies and 4 adults (Pongo, Missis, Perdita and Prince), simplified in the film to 99 + 2.		Re: 101 Dalmatians: in the book there are 97 puppies and 4 adults (Pongo, Missis, Perdita and Prince), simplified in the film to 99 + 2.
	13:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)		13:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:I noticed that, too, and fixed it with some parentheticals. I've noticed such level of detail is normal in these explanations. [[User:Trlkly\|Trlkly]] ([[User talk:Trlkly\|talk]]) 04:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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 which means "thought they were UFOs from space". The English lyrics are not that definite. Anyway - a large 99 (or is it 94 at altitude?) year war broke out just because of some hyper-tense generals. [[User:Palmpje|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje|talk]]) 19:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 ::The comic refers to "red" balloons, which which are only present in the English version. The original German text doesn't mention the color of the "Luftballons", so it's not so obvious that this version should prevail.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.240|141.101.107.240]] 13:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 The "420" mile marker on Interstate 70 in Colorado was replaced by a "419.99" marker because it kept getting stolen. [http://loweringthebar.net/2014/01/colorado-removes-420-mile-marker.html]. [[User:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter|Probably not Douglas Hofstadter]] ([[User talk:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter|talk]]) 14:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

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	The "420" mile marker on Interstate 70 in Colorado was replaced by a "419.99" marker because it kept getting stolen. [http://loweringthebar.net/2014/01/colorado-removes-420-mile-marker.html]. [[User:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|Probably not Douglas Hofstadter]] ([[User talk:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|talk]]) 14:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)		The "420" mile marker on Interstate 70 in Colorado was replaced by a "419.99" marker because it kept getting stolen. [http://loweringthebar.net/2014/01/colorado-removes-420-mile-marker.html]. [[User:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|Probably not Douglas Hofstadter]] ([[User talk:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|talk]]) 14:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Re: 101 Dalmatians: in the book there are 97 puppies and 4 adults (Pongo, Missis, Perdita and Prince), simplified in the film to 99 + 2.
		+	13:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

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 :This is a fairly commonly recognized phenomenon. Many golf publications reference this. e.g. [https://www.titleist.com/teamtitleist/b/tourblog/posts/the-effect-of-altitude-golf-ball-aerodynamics Titleist post][[User:OhFFS|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS|talk]]) 21:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 :This is also commonly recognized in baseball.  For example, [this paper[http://baseball.physics.illinois.edu/Denver.html] argues that after the spin-induced lift reduction ball will still fly 5% farther in Denver than in Boston due to altitude.[[Special:Contributions/108.162.216.172|108.162.216.172]] 14:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 I'd say the last frame is a reference to 5 o'clock time for drinks. On urban dictionary there's a reference to 4:20 being the time to 'smoke the reefer' [[User:Palmpje|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje|talk]]) 18:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

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	which means "thought they were UFOs from space". The English lyrics are not that definite. Anyway - a large 99 (or is it 94 at altitude?) year war broke out just because of some hyper-tense generals. [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)		which means "thought they were UFOs from space". The English lyrics are not that definite. Anyway - a large 99 (or is it 94 at altitude?) year war broke out just because of some hyper-tense generals. [[User:Palmpje\|Palmpje]] ([[User talk:Palmpje\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
	::The comic refers to "red" balloons, which which are only present in the English version. The original German text doesn't mention the color of the "Luftballons", so it's not so obvious that this version should prevail.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.240\|141.101.107.240]] 13:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)		::The comic refers to "red" balloons, which which are only present in the English version. The original German text doesn't mention the color of the "Luftballons", so it's not so obvious that this version should prevail.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.240\|141.101.107.240]] 13:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	The "420" mile marker on Interstate 70 in Colorado was replaced by a "419.99" marker because it kept getting stolen. [http://loweringthebar.net/2014/01/colorado-removes-420-mile-marker.html]. [[User:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|Probably not Douglas Hofstadter]] ([[User talk:Probably not Douglas Hofstadter\|talk]]) 14:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)