Talk:2198: Throw - Revision history

An user who has no account yet at 23:33, 6 September 2023

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162.158.50.156: skeptical of validity of formulae ~~~~

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skeptical of validity of formulae ~~~~

Account at 16:38, 14 November 2019

2019-11-14T16:38:16Z

172.68.174.22: /* Negative and malformed inputs */ new section

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‎Negative and malformed inputs: new section

Kynde at 12:50, 9 September 2019

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108.162.212.149 at 14:46, 8 September 2019

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Kynde at 13:50, 6 September 2019

2019-09-06T13:50:32Z

172.68.110.82 at 10:49, 6 September 2019

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172.68.59.226 at 10:39, 6 September 2019

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172.68.59.226 at 10:22, 6 September 2019

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	All complaints in the incomplete tag have been dealt with. Shall the Incomplete tag now be deleted? --[[User:Account\|Account]] ([[User talk:Account\|talk]]) 16:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)		All complaints in the incomplete tag have been dealt with. Shall the Incomplete tag now be deleted? --[[User:Account\|Account]] ([[User talk:Account\|talk]]) 16:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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		+	might be weird but i'm only 1,45m tall and only weigh 32kg [[User:An user who has no account yet\|An user who has no account yet]] ([[User talk:An user who has no account yet\|talk]]) 23:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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 :I have now added images showing [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:2198_Throw_-_You_1_kg_throw_hammer_max_distance.PNG this maximum distance]. The other examples can be put here: [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_distance]].
 :I also found that the comic asks us to keep the height up to 100 m and mass up to 1000 kg. It does so in my local language which is not English. I have uploaded two images [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_height_and_mass|here]]. It would be great if someone who has these messages in English could update these two images so they are with english test instead of Danish. I have translated it in the explanation. But please improve. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 12:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 == Negative and malformed inputs ==

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	"You" can accept negative numbers as input pasted in from elsewhere. With bizarre results like the animation freezing or a throw running forever without an answer.		"You" can accept negative numbers as input pasted in from elsewhere. With bizarre results like the animation freezing or a throw running forever without an answer.
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		+	== Completion? ==
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		+	All complaints in the incomplete tag have been dealt with. Shall the Incomplete tag now be deleted? --[[User:Account\|Account]] ([[User talk:Account\|talk]]) 16:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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	:I have now added images showing [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:2198_Throw_-_You_1_kg_throw_hammer_max_distance.PNG this maximum distance]. The other examples can be put here: [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_distance]].		:I have now added images showing [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:2198_Throw_-_You_1_kg_throw_hammer_max_distance.PNG this maximum distance]. The other examples can be put here: [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_distance]].
	:I also found that the comic asks us to keep the height up to 100 m and mass up to 1000 kg. It does so in my local language which is not English. I have uploaded two images [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_height_and_mass\|here]]. It would be great if someone who has these messages in English could update these two images so they are with english test instead of Danish. I have translated it in the explanation. But please improve. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)		:I also found that the comic asks us to keep the height up to 100 m and mass up to 1000 kg. It does so in my local language which is not English. I have uploaded two images [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_height_and_mass\|here]]. It would be great if someone who has these messages in English could update these two images so they are with english test instead of Danish. I have translated it in the explanation. But please improve. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Negative and malformed inputs ==
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		+	"You" can accept negative numbers as input pasted in from elsewhere. With bizarre results like the animation freezing or a throw running forever without an answer.

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	I found with further testing that if you put absurd numbers for a custom thrower with many digits for height and weight, there is a maximum possible distance which doesn't change if you change the values somewhat. Presumably due to its density, in such a condition thor's hammer returns the highest throw distances instead of the lowest (743,079 meters), second place is javelin, 3rd is gold bar, and you can't throw a ping pong ball more than 13 meters no matter what. Some other choice change from whether they are usually near the high or low end of the distances this way. For ping pong ball and tumbling coin, Thor gives the same values as these maximums, but for most others he does lower.--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.226\|172.68.59.226]] 10:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)		I found with further testing that if you put absurd numbers for a custom thrower with many digits for height and weight, there is a maximum possible distance which doesn't change if you change the values somewhat. Presumably due to its density, in such a condition thor's hammer returns the highest throw distances instead of the lowest (743,079 meters), second place is javelin, 3rd is gold bar, and you can't throw a ping pong ball more than 13 meters no matter what. Some other choice change from whether they are usually near the high or low end of the distances this way. For ping pong ball and tumbling coin, Thor gives the same values as these maximums, but for most others he does lower.--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.226\|172.68.59.226]] 10:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
		+	:I have now added images showing [https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/File:2198_Throw_-_You_1_kg_throw_hammer_max_distance.PNG this maximum distance]. The other examples can be put here: [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_distance]].
		+	:I also found that the comic asks us to keep the height up to 100 m and mass up to 1000 kg. It does so in my local language which is not English. I have uploaded two images [[2198:_Throw/Screen-shots#Maximum_height_and_mass\|here]]. It would be great if someone who has these messages in English could update these two images so they are with english test instead of Danish. I have translated it in the explanation. But please improve. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 12:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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 I think we need to add something about the myth that George Washington threw a silver dollar across the Potomac River [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.40|108.162.241.40]] 19:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 : I agree it adds to the appreciation of the humor and have added that myth to the explanation. I have also added the fact that football quarterbacks are specialists at throwing the ball. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 13:55, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 Pretty sure that the ping-pong ball distances are severely overestimated due to air resistance slowing them very rapidly. Someone with lab facilities might want to check... --[[User:Marcus Rowland|Marcus Rowland]] ([[User talk:Marcus Rowland|talk]]) 19:49, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

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 ::Great work with the files, I used them and included a table with the images instead of a list of throwers and objects. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:44, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 ::: Thank you, [[User:Kynde|Kynde]]! Turned out even better than what I had in mind for the images. :) --[[User:Passerby|Passerby]] ([[User talk:Passerby|talk]]) 17:52, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 Could somebody figure out the equation he's using from the book and post it in the explanation? --[[User:Account|Account]] ([[User talk:Account|talk]]) 14:57, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

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	: 1,2041 is in units of kg/m³ and is the density of air at sea level; both A and B are in units of speed m/s; throwPower is in m²/s³, or equivalently in m/s * N/kg. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.82\|172.68.110.82]] 21:22, 4 September 2019 (UTC)		: 1,2041 is in units of kg/m³ and is the density of air at sea level; both A and B are in units of speed m/s; throwPower is in m²/s³, or equivalently in m/s * N/kg. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.82\|172.68.110.82]] 21:22, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
		+	:: Or equivalently W/kg Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.82\|172.68.110.82]] 10:49, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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	The reason you can never see the wiffle measurement is it would require a distance range below that of light nanoseconds, but light nanoseconds only appears at distances very slightly above 1 meter, and any distance below 1 meter always says they can't throw it.--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.226\|172.68.59.226]] 10:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)		The reason you can never see the wiffle measurement is it would require a distance range below that of light nanoseconds, but light nanoseconds only appears at distances very slightly above 1 meter, and any distance below 1 meter always says they can't throw it.--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.226\|172.68.59.226]] 10:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I found with further testing that if you put absurd numbers for a custom thrower with many digits for height and weight, there is a maximum possible distance which doesn't change if you change the values somewhat. Presumably due to its density, in such a condition thor's hammer returns the highest throw distances instead of the lowest (743,079 meters), second place is javelin, 3rd is gold bar, and you can't throw a ping pong ball more than 13 meters no matter what. Some other choice change from whether they are usually near the high or low end of the distances this way. For ping pong ball and tumbling coin, Thor gives the same values as these maximums, but for most others he does lower.--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.226\|172.68.59.226]] 10:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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	It seems that different items can be thrown different minimum distances. The microwave oven can be thrown a minimum of 1.22 meters, the cake a minimum of 1.53 meters, the hammer a minimum of 1.50 meters, the javelin a minimum of 5.40 meters, George Washington a minimum of 5.49 meters, Pikachu a minimum of 1.20 meters, the car 14 meters, and the basketball, blender, gold bar, ping-pong ball, acorn, both coins, and the squirrel a minimum of 1.00 meters. Include in article? --[[User:Account\|Account]] ([[User talk:Account\|talk]]) 18:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)		It seems that different items can be thrown different minimum distances. The microwave oven can be thrown a minimum of 1.22 meters, the cake a minimum of 1.53 meters, the hammer a minimum of 1.50 meters, the javelin a minimum of 5.40 meters, George Washington a minimum of 5.49 meters, Pikachu a minimum of 1.20 meters, the car 14 meters, and the basketball, blender, gold bar, ping-pong ball, acorn, both coins, and the squirrel a minimum of 1.00 meters. Include in article? --[[User:Account\|Account]] ([[User talk:Account\|talk]]) 18:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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		+	The reason you can never see the wiffle measurement is it would require a distance range below that of light nanoseconds, but light nanoseconds only appears at distances very slightly above 1 meter, and any distance below 1 meter always says they can't throw it.--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.59.226\|172.68.59.226]] 10:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)