Talk:2347: Dependency - Revision history

2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201: reply

2026-03-03T23:18:35Z

2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201: sp.; reply

2026-03-03T23:16:40Z

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82.132.236.44: Unchanged the DIETYBOUNCE, because that was how it was left, that author's error, best left alone. Removed the (messed up) now-second copy of the German Television link, for obvious reasons (the new location version works, and is "unsigned", so better).

2025-11-19T18:52:52Z

Unchanged the DIETYBOUNCE, because that was how it was left, that author's error, best left alone. Removed the (messed up) now-second copy of the German Television link, for obvious reasons (the new location version works, and is "unsigned", so better).

DollarStoreBa'al: correcting of incorrect corrections

2025-11-19T18:23:16Z

correcting of incorrect corrections

DollarStoreBa'al: reverting incorrect correction

2025-11-19T18:22:35Z

reverting incorrect correction

DollarStoreBa'al: partial revert

2025-11-19T18:21:43Z

partial revert

82.132.236.44: That was "deity", as in god(-like), not "diety", as in 'like a diet'. Un'corrected' that which shouldn't have been changed.

2025-11-19T18:16:57Z

That was "deity", as in god(-like), not "diety", as in 'like a diet'. Un'corrected' that which shouldn't have been changed.

91.64.136.151: 2025 Cloudflare and AWS outage, and derivatives of XKCD:2347

2025-11-19T10:53:02Z

2025 Cloudflare and AWS outage, and derivatives of XKCD:2347

42.book.addict: cleanup

2025-11-19T07:06:10Z

cleanup

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64.201.132.210: AWS and Cloudflare outages + this image = fun

2025-11-18T21:29:56Z

AWS and Cloudflare outages + this image = fun

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	:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DEITYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18\|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)		:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DEITYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18\|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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		+	:: Npm supply chain vulnerabilities? In 2020?!? Greetings from early 2026, where they are so frequent cybersec influencers have stopped posting about them. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201\|2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201]] 23:18, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

	:Thank you for the Expat test suite! It turned a shaky narrow block into a nice wide block. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201\|2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201]] 23:16, 3 March 2026 (UTC)		:Thank you for the Expat test suite! It turned a shaky narrow block into a nice wide block. [[Special:Contributions/2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201\|2603:800C:1200:596A:6DE6:8737:50AE:3201]] 23:16, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

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 I worked for the Linux Foundation on the Core Infrastructure Initiative supporting OpenSSL and other projects. The one that scared me was Expat the XML parser maintained by two people on alternate Sunday afternoons assuming no other distractions. We did  get funding for a test suite. Joe Biden was a supporter of LF and CII and was going to host a fund raiser for us at the White House until a perverse result.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.222|141.101.98.222]] 22:46, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
-:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DIETYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
+:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DEITYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 In the explanation, is "far from the days of backwards compatibility" a reference to something specific? I thought quite a few things made today were still backwards compatible, or am I mistaken? [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 18:26, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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 I worked for the Linux Foundation on the Core Infrastructure Initiative supporting OpenSSL and other projects. The one that scared me was Expat the XML parser maintained by two people on alternate Sunday afternoons assuming no other distractions. We did  get funding for a test suite. Joe Biden was a supporter of LF and CII and was going to host a fund raiser for us at the White House until a perverse result.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.222|141.101.98.222]] 22:46, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
-:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DEITYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
+:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DIETYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 In the explanation, is "far from the days of backwards compatibility" a reference to something specific? I thought quite a few things made today were still backwards compatible, or am I mistaken? [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 18:26, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
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 :: While libc in various forms has been around as long as C has, it was never SINGULAR. Every version of C compiler had it's own version of C library maintained by different people. Even now there are alternatives to GNU libc. The timezone database might be better example. Also, reuse and modularity is fundamental principle, but reusing code maintained by someone else in project with bigger staff than that of such code is relatively recent. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 23:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 ;This has happened before

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 Nebraska came up in 1667, "Algorithms" as well.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.79.33|162.158.79.33]] 02:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
-:Nebraska is... Well, I'm sure some Nebraskonians might have a more fully-fleshed out and accurate opinion of its subtleties, depth of culture(s?) and Diety-given geographic artisanship but viewed from further afield it is one of the contenders for "miles and miles of not much going on", or similar, peopled by people that largely live within that promise.
+:Nebraska is... Well, I'm sure some Nebraskonians might have a more fully-fleshed out and accurate opinion of its subtleties, depth of culture(s?) and Deity-given geographic artisanship but viewed from further afield it is one of the contenders for "miles and miles of not much going on", or similar, peopled by people that largely live within that promise.
 :It may be just a [https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Power_Cable meme of such a generality], as a brief look at a {{w|List_of_people_from_Nebraska|list of people from Nebraska}} tends to support the hypothesis that the ones who became significant (Astair, Brando, Carson...) probably did so only once they left.
 :OTOH, there are (at least) four computing pioneers/developers mentioned among them, creator or authors of significant 'products', and maybe {{w|Sketchpad|one of these}} matches the (intellectual) dependency meme quite well - other than being written in Massachusetts. Or {{w|Blogger_(service)|this one}}, though that might have been LA-baked, maybe?

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 I worked for the Linux Foundation on the Core Infrastructure Initiative supporting OpenSSL and other projects. The one that scared me was Expat the XML parser maintained by two people on alternate Sunday afternoons assuming no other distractions. We did  get funding for a test suite. Joe Biden was a supporter of LF and CII and was going to host a fund raiser for us at the White House until a perverse result.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.222|141.101.98.222]] 22:46, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
-:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DIETYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
+:Are you trying to tell me that Biden and Harris weren't for CALEA, DEITYBOUNCE, and similar backdoors just like all the feds? When will they discover how to stop sending money overseas? https://blog.risingstack.com/controlling-node-js-security-risk-npm-dependencies/ [[Special:Contributions/172.69.34.18|172.69.34.18]] 07:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 In the explanation, is "far from the days of backwards compatibility" a reference to something specific? I thought quite a few things made today were still backwards compatible, or am I mistaken? [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 18:26, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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	;2025 Cloudflare and AWS outages		;2025 Cloudflare and AWS outages
	Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/CloudFlare/comments/1p0abms/the_entire_internet_lol/ had fun] with the AWS and Cloudflare outages in late 2025. The Cloudflare outage was on 18 November, the AWS outage a few weeks before that. [[Special:Contributions/64.201.132.210\|64.201.132.210]] 21:29, 18 November 2025 (UTC)		Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/CloudFlare/comments/1p0abms/the_entire_internet_lol/ had fun] with the AWS and Cloudflare outages in late 2025. The Cloudflare outage was on 18 November, the AWS outage a few weeks before that. [[Special:Contributions/64.201.132.210\|64.201.132.210]] 21:29, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
		+	: Here's an [https://mastodon.social/@chechar/115571726910318246 aesthetically better one], IMO.
		+	: Now I want to make a section in the page to list derivatives.
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	On July 11th, 2024, a version of this cartoon re-labelling "all modern digital infrastructure" to "every conversation about dependencies since 2020", and in which the lynchpin block is now labelled "this fucking comic" [https://mastodon.social/@mhoye/112765357274419363 first appeared on the fediverse social networks]. This variant turns the cartoon into a self-referencing one, where conceiving the vulnerability thru dependency rests mostly on the cartoon that illustrates this very concept. This ''mise en abyme'' was soon illustrated by [https://swiss.social/@LukePhilipps/112766542874352677 a further variant of the cartoon] making use of the {{w\|Droste effect}}. --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.130.67\|172.71.130.67]] 21:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)		On July 11th, 2024, a version of this cartoon re-labelling "all modern digital infrastructure" to "every conversation about dependencies since 2020", and in which the lynchpin block is now labelled "this fucking comic" [https://mastodon.social/@mhoye/112765357274419363 first appeared on the fediverse social networks]. This variant turns the cartoon into a self-referencing one, where conceiving the vulnerability thru dependency rests mostly on the cartoon that illustrates this very concept. This ''mise en abyme'' was soon illustrated by [https://swiss.social/@LukePhilipps/112766542874352677 a further variant of the cartoon] making use of the {{w\|Droste effect}}. --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.130.67\|172.71.130.67]] 21:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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		+	== 2025 Cloudflare and AWS outages ==
		+	Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/CloudFlare/comments/1p0abms/the_entire_internet_lol/ had fun] with the AWS and Cloudflare outages in late 2025. The Cloudflare outage was on 18 November, the AWS outage a few weeks before that. [[Special:Contributions/64.201.132.210\|64.201.132.210]] 21:29, 18 November 2025 (UTC)