Talk:2461: 90's Kid Space Program - Revision history

RAGBRAIvet at 06:38, 12 May 2021

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RAGBRAIvet at 06:36, 12 May 2021

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RAGBRAIvet at 06:35, 12 May 2021

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RAGBRAIvet at 06:30, 12 May 2021

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RAGBRAIvet at 06:29, 12 May 2021

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DoubleDenial: i agree, the 90's kid thing probably isn't just a reference to the age of the employees

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i agree, the 90's kid thing probably isn't just a reference to the age of the employees

Rtanenbaum at 20:42, 11 May 2021

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141.101.105.240 at 20:33, 11 May 2021

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141.101.99.107: James Webb Telescope thoughts

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James Webb Telescope thoughts

141.101.105.134 at 16:29, 11 May 2021

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 :I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
-:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once the Congressional hatchet-men cut off funding for the shuttle program, NASA has seemingly focused exclusively on unmanned probes and rovers and allowed the manned space exploration programs to wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to even get someone to the ISS. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
+:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once the Congressional hatchet-men cut off funding for the shuttle program, NASA has seemingly focused exclusively on unmanned probes and rovers and allowed the manned space exploration programs to wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft like Russia's Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX to even get someone to the ISS. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.

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 :I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
-:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once the Congressional hatchet-men to cut off funding for the shuttle program, NASA has seemingly focused exclusively on unmanned probes and rovers and allowed the manned space exploration programs to wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to even get someone to the ISS. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
+:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once the Congressional hatchet-men cut off funding for the shuttle program, NASA has seemingly focused exclusively on unmanned probes and rovers and allowed the manned space exploration programs to wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to even get someone to the ISS. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.

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 :I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
-:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once they let the shuttle program die NASA let themselves wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to get anyone into space any more. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
+:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once the Congressional hatchet-men to cut off funding for the shuttle program, NASA has seemingly focused exclusively on unmanned probes and rovers and allowed the manned space exploration programs to wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to even get someone to the ISS. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.

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 :I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
-I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once they let the shuttle program die they let themselves wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to get a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to get anyone into space any more. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
+:I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once they let the shuttle program die NASA let themselves wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to use a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to get anyone into space any more. [[User:RAGBRAIvet|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.

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	:I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing\|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid\|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial\|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial\|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)		:I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing\|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid\|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial\|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial\|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
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		+	I felt the same way. From being cutting-edge in the 1960s and early 1970s, once they let the shuttle program die they let themselves wither away to the point that they barely have a half-dozen operable space suits and have to get a space-going Über or Lyft (the Russian Soyuz or Elon Musk's SpaceX) to get anyone into space any more. [[User:RAGBRAIvet\|RAGBRAIvet]] ([[User talk:RAGBRAIvet\|talk]]) 06:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

	I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.		I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.

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	:Only they already tried most of the stuff and failed. e.g the DC-X or landing booster were tried in the 90s. For the boosters, it will be interesting if the reuse-reliability is better with our better controll systems, or the refurbishing costs and risks will kill it again. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.134\|141.101.105.134]] 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)		:Only they already tried most of the stuff and failed. e.g the DC-X or landing booster were tried in the 90s. For the boosters, it will be interesting if the reuse-reliability is better with our better controll systems, or the refurbishing costs and risks will kill it again. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.134\|141.101.105.134]] 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:I also interpreted the joke that way. Considering that [[1074: Moon Landing\|Randall has done a joke about this in the past]], I think that your interpretation is likely. (Then again, there was also [[1548: 90s Kid\|a strip about 90's kids growing up]]...) --[[User:DoubleDenial\|DoubleDenial]] ([[User talk:DoubleDenial\|talk]]) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

	I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.		I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.

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 :snap! I thought it was  a diaphragm too :o) [[Special:Contributions/108.162.249.50|108.162.249.50]] 06:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 ::I would have known what it was if it was a photograph. There's no real sense of scale or texture here, I thought it was some kind of weird parachute like kids used in gym class. -[[Special:Contributions/172.68.57.75|172.68.57.75]] 06:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 ;How effective would this thing actually be?<br>

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	:Depends? I've seen 3 inch models that pop higher than 1 inch models. I also think the old school solid ones pop higher than the 'safety' version you get now with a hole in the top. Side note: kids like me are why they have those safety holes now. For gits and shiggles in the summer of '86 I placed one of them on my forehead, and pushed in. It made a mighty suction cup, and took the better part of a minute to get off my face. As you might expect, a solid minute of extreme suction on my skin created the expectant 'hickey' and I had a 3 inch round dot on my forehead for about a week.		:Depends? I've seen 3 inch models that pop higher than 1 inch models. I also think the old school solid ones pop higher than the 'safety' version you get now with a hole in the top. Side note: kids like me are why they have those safety holes now. For gits and shiggles in the summer of '86 I placed one of them on my forehead, and pushed in. It made a mighty suction cup, and took the better part of a minute to get off my face. As you might expect, a solid minute of extreme suction on my skin created the expectant 'hickey' and I had a 3 inch round dot on my forehead for about a week.
	[[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.45\|172.68.132.45]] 16:14, 11 May 2021 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/172.68.132.45\|172.68.132.45]] 16:14, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Actually this wouldn't work at all at the drawn scale. - At least not with rubbers we know currently. To have enough "strength" against punctures etc on this scale the rubber would have to be really really thick. However another feature is that it bends from bulbing one side to the other side - releasing build up tensile stress inside the rubber dome material.
		+	The problem is however that in doing so the 'length' of one side of the rubber would change drastically (this is what creates the stress anyways). Magnitudes more than the few mm you have in normal domes. It would have so much strain that any rubber we know would've ripped/cracked many times before, even the most plastine rubbers would rip before that point. So no this would not scale up very well... Would actually be better to use "a lot of small sized ones". than a single large one.

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	;Maybe I'm reading too much in to it, but it looks a bit like an Orion type spacecraft with the pusher plate drawn to specifically resemble those pop toys? <br>		;Maybe I'm reading too much in to it, but it looks a bit like an Orion type spacecraft with the pusher plate drawn to specifically resemble those pop toys? <br>
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		+	I'm surprised no one has commented on the similarity in design to the James Webb Telescope, which opened for the last time today on earth in preparation for satellite packing: https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1392170711226126344?s=19 [[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.107\|141.101.99.107]] 20:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

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	The title text may refer to the way that NASA seems stuck in their ways and not willing to innovate, i.e. living in the past. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.249\|162.158.91.249]] 21:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)		The title text may refer to the way that NASA seems stuck in their ways and not willing to innovate, i.e. living in the past. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.249\|162.158.91.249]] 21:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:Only they already tried most of the stuff and failed. e.g the DC-X or landing booster were tried in the 90s. For the boosters, it will be interesting if the reuse-reliability is better with our better controll systems, or the refurbishing costs and risks will kill it again. --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.134\|141.101.105.134]] 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

	I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.		I agree with the above suggestion that Kerbal Space Program is part of the joke, KSP is to iconic a acronym for Munroe to ignore, plus, he has mentioned it in other strips.