Talk:2589: Outlet Denier - Revision history

172.71.184.78: /* A possible solution and a usecase */

2024-08-11T07:08:57Z

‎A possible solution and a usecase

162.158.183.237: /* A possible solution and a usecase */

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‎A possible solution and a usecase

162.158.183.238 at 07:03, 11 August 2024

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162.158.183.55 at 06:52, 11 August 2024

2024-08-11T06:52:53Z

108.162.250.224: Added a question about 230v vs 110v

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Added a question about 230v vs 110v

Yorkshire Pudding at 10:09, 8 March 2022

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172.70.162.155 at 02:16, 8 March 2022

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EvilGeniusSkis at 20:12, 7 March 2022

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108.162.250.234 at 08:25, 7 March 2022

2022-03-07T08:25:37Z

108.162.250.234: Wish Randall hadn't used the word "denier" (reserved word)

2022-03-07T08:21:25Z

Wish Randall hadn't used the word "denier" (reserved word)

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		+	Also, there is in a deep voice '''ANOTHER ONE'''
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		+	A 1500Watt-ish device (say, a huge PC or a huuuuuuge sound speaker) which requires 1 outlet all to itself, should use this (and, maybe, offer some USB charging ports as a compensation)

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 Conclusion: such an absurd "outlet denier" plug could be used to give a bold DO NOT MOVE THIS DEVICE TO A DIFFERENT OUTLET. Once upgraded with a padlock, it will also give the DO NOT UNPLUG IT EITHER message as well.
-Reasons to use this fricker: you're a scientist who uses fridges to, well, grow something. AND your lab's janitor is a both dumb and pedantic. This thingy, once locked in place with a padlock, will just block the janitor's attempts to unplug a fridge to plug in a ''Hoover'' or a ''Kärcher'' or some antique ''Raketa''.
+Reasons to use this fricker: you're a scientist who uses fridges to, well, grow something. AND your lab's janitor is both dumb and pedantic. This thingy, once locked in place with a padlock, will just block the janitor's attempts to unplug a fridge to plug in a ''Hoover'' or a ''Kärcher'' or some antique ''Raketa''.
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 #Sometimes, an outlet comes in a large box ("external wiring design" or something; point is, the electrical wire goes across the wall, not through.
 #A "universal" adapter (a.k.a. ''travel adapter''), normally, is a rather tall contraption, giving the necessary height to fit the monster from this comic strip with all the bumps.

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	The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.234\|108.162.250.234]] 08:25, 7 March 2022 (UTC) (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)		The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.234\|108.162.250.234]] 08:25, 7 March 2022 (UTC) (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)
	:I've read it like that so many times! I've written a ''huge'' amount of copy for outdoor equipment websites, and referenced the denier of tent fabrics and clothing. A Lot. I've even written about the history of the denier measurement on several occasions (yeah, I really am that rock & roll). So climate-change deniers and holocaust deniers always seem a little incongruous for a few seconds before my brain translates.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 10:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)		:I've read it like that so many times! I've written a ''huge'' amount of copy for outdoor equipment websites, and referenced the denier of tent fabrics and clothing. A Lot. I've even written about the history of the denier measurement on several occasions (yeah, I really am that rock & roll). So climate-change deniers and holocaust deniers always seem a little incongruous for a few seconds before my brain translates.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 10:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
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		+	* Wouldn't be a problem for a few things:
		+	#Sometimes, an outlet comes in a large box ("external wiring design" or something; point is, the electrical wire goes across the wall, not through.
		+	#A "universal" adapter (a.k.a. ''travel adapter''), normally, is a rather tall contraption, giving the necessary height to fit the monster from this comic strip with all the bumps.

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 Exept in Canada,  our kitchen plugs get 15A for the top, and 15A more for the bottom. the two outlets are electrically separated from each other on the hot side, with each outlet getting a separate phase, share a neutral, and use a dual ganged breaker. [[User:EvilGeniusSkis|EvilGeniusSkis]] ([[User talk:EvilGeniusSkis|talk]])
 :Separate phases? Households in the UK tend to get just one phase (semi-randomly?) from the power-grid. Very occasionally, a(n already occasional) power-cut will affect ~⅓ of the houses on a street when it's obviously a specific failure tripped at the neighbourhood transformer. Though questions by the people wanting to install SmartMeters suggests that it's possible for not just large businesses/community buildings to be tapped into multiphase supplies.
 :I have a dedicated fuse-box slot that goes to the cooker wall-switch (it's actually gas, so just needs 'operating' power nothing current-hungry, but it would need more if I changed to all-electric) which also has a socket that I presume sits on the same circuit but may be more internally limited. You know, I haven't had to fiddle with that for around 20 years, so forgive me if I'm hazy. ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 02:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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	The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.234\|108.162.250.234]] 08:25, 7 March 2022 (UTC) (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)		The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.234\|108.162.250.234]] 08:25, 7 March 2022 (UTC) (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)
		+	:I've read it like that so many times! I've written a ''huge'' amount of copy for outdoor equipment websites, and referenced the denier of tent fabrics and clothing. A Lot. I've even written about the history of the denier measurement on several occasions (yeah, I really am that rock & roll). So climate-change deniers and holocaust deniers always seem a little incongruous for a few seconds before my brain translates.[[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 10:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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	: Came her to say this. But, it's also to keep anything from using the second outlet, as the air fryer lid is 1500W, and just about anything else would trip a breaker. -- [[User:Dtgriscom\|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom\|talk]]) 18:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)		: Came her to say this. But, it's also to keep anything from using the second outlet, as the air fryer lid is 1500W, and just about anything else would trip a breaker. -- [[User:Dtgriscom\|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom\|talk]]) 18:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
	Exept in Canada, our kitchen plugs get 15A for the top, and 15A more for the bottom. the two outlets are electrically separated from each other on the hot side, with each outlet getting a separate phase, share a neutral, and use a dual ganged breaker. [[User:EvilGeniusSkis\|EvilGeniusSkis]] ([[User talk:EvilGeniusSkis\|talk]])		Exept in Canada, our kitchen plugs get 15A for the top, and 15A more for the bottom. the two outlets are electrically separated from each other on the hot side, with each outlet getting a separate phase, share a neutral, and use a dual ganged breaker. [[User:EvilGeniusSkis\|EvilGeniusSkis]] ([[User talk:EvilGeniusSkis\|talk]])
		+	:Separate phases? Households in the UK tend to get just one phase (semi-randomly?) from the power-grid. Very occasionally, a(n already occasional) power-cut will affect ~⅓ of the houses on a street when it's obviously a specific failure tripped at the neighbourhood transformer. Though questions by the people wanting to install SmartMeters suggests that it's possible for not just large businesses/community buildings to be tapped into multiphase supplies.
		+	:I have a dedicated fuse-box slot that goes to the cooker wall-switch (it's actually gas, so just needs 'operating' power nothing current-hungry, but it would need more if I changed to all-electric) which also has a socket that I presume sits on the same circuit but may be more internally limited. You know, I haven't had to fiddle with that for around 20 years, so forgive me if I'm hazy. ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155\|172.70.162.155]] 02:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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	Outlet deniers are a real thing that actually exists . For example, the Instant Pot air fryer attachment has one of these on its plug to discourage people from using it at the same time as the main pot (which would be bad). Photo here: https://www.adventurousway.com/images/i/fzjll58c5a77/1536w/gear-reviews/instant-pot-air-fryer-lid-review/air-fryer-lid-plug.webp		Outlet deniers are a real thing that actually exists . For example, the Instant Pot air fryer attachment has one of these on its plug to discourage people from using it at the same time as the main pot (which would be bad). Photo here: https://www.adventurousway.com/images/i/fzjll58c5a77/1536w/gear-reviews/instant-pot-air-fryer-lid-review/air-fryer-lid-plug.webp
	: Came her to say this. But, it's also to keep anything from using the second outlet, as the air fryer lid is 1500W, and just about anything else would trip a breaker. -- [[User:Dtgriscom\|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom\|talk]]) 18:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)		: Came her to say this. But, it's also to keep anything from using the second outlet, as the air fryer lid is 1500W, and just about anything else would trip a breaker. -- [[User:Dtgriscom\|Dtgriscom]] ([[User talk:Dtgriscom\|talk]]) 18:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
		+	Exept in Canada, our kitchen plugs get 15A for the top, and 15A more for the bottom. the two outlets are electrically separated from each other on the hot side, with each outlet getting a separate phase, share a neutral, and use a dual ganged breaker. [[User:EvilGeniusSkis\|EvilGeniusSkis]] ([[User talk:EvilGeniusSkis\|talk]])

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	:::::I have several without switches in my house... So I have changed to Many --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 17:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)		:::::I have several without switches in my house... So I have changed to Many --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 17:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

−	The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness"... (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)	+	The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness". [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.234\|108.162.250.234]] 08:25, 7 March 2022 (UTC) (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)

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	:::: ok i didn't know there are so common in europe. i simply think that making a blanket statement that "Many (most?)" have the switch is wrong. simply saying "Many" would be better. [[User:TomW1605\|TomW1605]] ([[User talk:TomW1605\|talk]]) 09:21, 6 March 2022 (UTC)		:::: ok i didn't know there are so common in europe. i simply think that making a blanket statement that "Many (most?)" have the switch is wrong. simply saying "Many" would be better. [[User:TomW1605\|TomW1605]] ([[User talk:TomW1605\|talk]]) 09:21, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
	:::::I have several without switches in my house... So I have changed to Many --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 17:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)		:::::I have several without switches in my house... So I have changed to Many --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 17:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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		+	The title text confused me: I read it as "denier" (the thickness of thread in fabric), rather than "deny-er". I was trying to resolve the interplay between "electrical sockets" and "their strand thickness"... (User: Gye Greene, 7 Mar 2022, 18:19 Brisbane Australia)