Talk:2592: False Dichotomy - Revision history

172.70.110.65 at 13:21, 19 March 2022

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172.69.34.82: A theory about a false trichotomy

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A theory about a false trichotomy

141.101.104.98 at 12:16, 16 March 2022

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141.101.104.98 at 12:15, 16 March 2022

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172.70.211.26 at 04:30, 15 March 2022

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172.70.130.153: Trichotomy and tricho

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Trichotomy and tricho

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Kev at 15:22, 12 March 2022

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172.69.79.153 at 01:11, 12 March 2022

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162.158.34.221 at 01:09, 12 March 2022

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	: no, that's delving too far into a fairly simple joke. "Embracing dichotomies and Cannibalism" is a false dichotomy itself! He could have said anything "skydiving", "poison swallowing", anything... It's the fact it's a false dichotomy used to justify false dichotomies. GET IT?!?!?		: no, that's delving too far into a fairly simple joke. "Embracing dichotomies and Cannibalism" is a false dichotomy itself! He could have said anything "skydiving", "poison swallowing", anything... It's the fact it's a false dichotomy used to justify false dichotomies. GET IT?!?!?
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		+	:That makes no sense, humans are demonstrably different from all other creatures, even without arguing human exceptionalism we are a different species which is a very well defined concept--[[Special:Contributions/172.70.110.65\|172.70.110.65]] 13:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

	I think the title text joke is more based on "There are 2 hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-1 errors." [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 19:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)		I think the title text joke is more based on "There are 2 hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-1 errors." [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 19:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

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	Personally I saw the title text as a reference to Monty Python's Spanish Inqusition: "Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise. Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical dedication to the pope." [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.98\|141.101.104.98]] 12:16, 16 March 2022 (UTC)		Personally I saw the title text as a reference to Monty Python's Spanish Inqusition: "Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise. Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical dedication to the pope." [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.98\|141.101.104.98]] 12:16, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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		+	It is possible that when he refers to "surprise trichotomies," he is referring to the cannibalism-false dichotomy false dichotomy. The third element is vegetarianism.

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	:It isnt actually a false Dichotomy, it is a satirical argument that it is more moral to eat babies than to let poor people die from starvation/exposure, rather than anything conflating the two as the same. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.26\|172.70.211.26]] 04:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)		:It isnt actually a false Dichotomy, it is a satirical argument that it is more moral to eat babies than to let poor people die from starvation/exposure, rather than anything conflating the two as the same. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.26\|172.70.211.26]] 04:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

−	Personally I saw the title text as a reference to Monty Python's Spanish Inqusition: "Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise. Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical dedication to the pope."	+	Personally I saw the title text as a reference to Monty Python's Spanish Inqusition: "Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise. Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical dedication to the pope." [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.98\|141.101.104.98]] 12:16, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

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	:It's a fairly well known piece of satire by Johnathan Swift. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.69\|108.162.245.69]] 23:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)		:It's a fairly well known piece of satire by Johnathan Swift. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.69\|108.162.245.69]] 23:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
	:It isnt actually a false Dichotomy, it is a satirical argument that it is more moral to eat babies than to let poor people die from starvation/exposure, rather than anything conflating the two as the same. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.26\|172.70.211.26]] 04:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)		:It isnt actually a false Dichotomy, it is a satirical argument that it is more moral to eat babies than to let poor people die from starvation/exposure, rather than anything conflating the two as the same. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.26\|172.70.211.26]] 04:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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		+	Personally I saw the title text as a reference to Monty Python's Spanish Inqusition: "Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise. Our two weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical dedication to the pope."

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 It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 :{{Citation Needed}} (I don't know what you're referring to :) ) [[User:Kev|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev|talk]]) 15:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
-It's a fairly well known piece of satire by Johnathan Swift. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.69|108.162.245.69]] 23:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
+:It's a fairly well known piece of satire by Johnathan Swift. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.69|108.162.245.69]] 23:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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	It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies\|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies\|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)		It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies\|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies\|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
	:{{Citation Needed}} (I don't know what you're referring to :) ) [[User:Kev\|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev\|talk]]) 15:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)		:{{Citation Needed}} (I don't know what you're referring to :) ) [[User:Kev\|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev\|talk]]) 15:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
		+	It's a fairly well known piece of satire by Johnathan Swift. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.69\|108.162.245.69]] 23:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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	It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies\|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies\|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)		It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies\|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies\|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
		+	:{{Citation Needed}} (I don't know what you're referring to :) ) [[User:Kev\|Kev]] ([[User talk:Kev\|talk]]) 15:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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 Trichotomy is not a portmanteau but a real word by itself, and it means what is supposed to mean, i.e., division in three categories. [[User:Vdm|Vdm]] ([[User talk:Vdm|talk]]) 21:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
-:I had not read this comment, when I dove in myself. I agree, though it is an artificial and (slightly) incorrect swap of di- to tri- so is a relative neologism. I've endeavoured to summarise what I understand of it (wiktionary lacks some of the depth, as you try to drill down, and I'm not sure I can provide full references for my version!) and removed the presumption of being a portmanteau. Which I would rather apply to two independent words being melded together, not a replacement of one prefix (or suffix) with another equivalently elemental fragmentary affix.
+:I had not read this comment, when I dove in myself. I agree, though it is an artificial and (slightly) incorrect swap of di- to tri- so is a relative neologism. I've endeavoured to summarise what I understand of it (wiktionary lacks some of the depth, as you try to drill down, and I'm not sure I can provide full references for my version!) and removed the presumption of being a portmanteau. Which I would rather apply to two independent words being melded together, not a replacement of one prefix (or suffix, or infix) with another equivalently elemental fragmentary affix.
 :But that's just my opinion. Open to further editing. (Maybe shoving in a Trivia section, also!) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.221|162.158.34.221]] 01:09, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

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	Trichotomy is not a portmanteau but a real word by itself, and it means what is supposed to mean, i.e., division in three categories. [[User:Vdm\|Vdm]] ([[User talk:Vdm\|talk]]) 21:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)		Trichotomy is not a portmanteau but a real word by itself, and it means what is supposed to mean, i.e., division in three categories. [[User:Vdm\|Vdm]] ([[User talk:Vdm\|talk]]) 21:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
		+	:I had not read this comment, when I dove in myself. I agree, though it is an artificial and (slightly) incorrect swap of di- to tri- so is a relative neologism. I've endeavoured to summarise what I understand of it (wiktionary lacks some of the depth, as you try to drill down, and I'm not sure I can provide full references for my version!) and removed the presumption of being a portmanteau. Which I would rather apply to two independent words being melded together, not a replacement of one prefix (or suffix) with another equivalently elemental fragmentary affix.
		+	:But that's just my opinion. Open to further editing. (Maybe shoving in a Trivia section, also!) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.221\|162.158.34.221]] 01:09, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

	It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies\|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies\|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)		It may be a stretch, but Cueball’s dialogue could be a reference to A Modest Proposal, which satirically creates an extended false dichotomy between poverty and cannibalism [[User:Lordoftheroboflies\|Lordoftheroboflies]] ([[User talk:Lordoftheroboflies\|talk]]) 23:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)