Talk:2622: Angular Diameter Turnaround - Revision history

172.69.69.170 at 23:57, 24 May 2022

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172.69.68.88 at 23:55, 24 May 2022

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172.70.90.211 at 09:05, 24 May 2022

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172.70.90.211 at 09:03, 24 May 2022

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162.158.107.198: haemophobia

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haemophobia

WhiteDragon: hubble report

2022-05-23T18:42:49Z

hubble report

172.70.130.105 at 17:04, 23 May 2022

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162.158.23.82 at 15:54, 23 May 2022

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Algr: Red shifted objects would not necessarily look red to the human eye.

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Red shifted objects would not necessarily look red to the human eye.

Kynde at 14:30, 23 May 2022

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 I assumed the reference was that very old cell phones (1990s etc.) were enormous - think carphones; technology allowed them to shrink (giving, say, the Nokia 8850 I owned in 1999 and the original smallish iPhone), and then recent phones have (on average) grown again as the benefits of a larger screen area have been seen to outweigh the convenience of a smaller device. Also older phones tended to have batteries that lasted longer, mostly because neither the screen nor the processor were pulling much power. It's not just that the original iPhone was smaller than current ones (nor, for some of us, does the original iPhone count as an "early cellphone"). Am I alone in this interpretation? The description (at time of writing) didn't seem to cover that.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.121|162.158.159.121]] 10:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
-: Yes, early cell phones were huge, like the size of a suitcase (hence they were usually kept in a car and called a "carphone.") At first much of this was having a larger battery before they had the modern sort of rechargeable electronics, and then it took time to gradually be able to shrink the other required electronics, but then they kept making them smaller, to the point where people would joke about how small they would be in the future (like in the movie Zoolander he had a phone that was like an inch in size).  However once smartphones came along that had a large screen and were used for a lot of things other than actual phone calls (and text messaging), people wanted larger screens, so they started increasing in size again, just to be able to make the screen larger, and also the increased functionality increased the battery drain and they thus needed more space for a bigger battery.  However, all the phones pictured in the comic are modern design smartphones with the whole phone surface being a touchscreen, so it's questionable to apply that idea to the comic.--[[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88|172.69.68.88]] 23:55, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
+: Yes, early cell phones were huge, like the size of a suitcase (hence they were usually kept in a car and called a "carphone.") At first much of this was having a larger battery before they had the modern sort of rechargeable electronics, and then it took time to gradually be able to shrink the other required electronics, but then they kept making them smaller, to the point where people would joke about how small they would be in the future (like in the movie Zoolander he had a phone that was like an inch in size).  However once smartphones came along that had a large screen and were used for a lot of things other than actual phone calls (and text messaging), people wanted larger screens, so they started increasing in size again, just to be able to make the screen larger, and also the increased functionality increased the battery drain and they thus needed more space for a bigger battery.  However, all the phones pictured in the comic are modern design smartphones with the whole phone surface being a touchscreen, so it's questionable to apply that idea to the comic.--
 The phone model shown doesn't look that much like a Samsung Galaxy.  More like an iPhone. Oh, well. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 15:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

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	I assumed the reference was that very old cell phones (1990s etc.) were enormous - think carphones; technology allowed them to shrink (giving, say, the Nokia 8850 I owned in 1999 and the original smallish iPhone), and then recent phones have (on average) grown again as the benefits of a larger screen area have been seen to outweigh the convenience of a smaller device. Also older phones tended to have batteries that lasted longer, mostly because neither the screen nor the processor were pulling much power. It's not just that the original iPhone was smaller than current ones (nor, for some of us, does the original iPhone count as an "early cellphone"). Am I alone in this interpretation? The description (at time of writing) didn't seem to cover that.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.121\|162.158.159.121]] 10:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)		I assumed the reference was that very old cell phones (1990s etc.) were enormous - think carphones; technology allowed them to shrink (giving, say, the Nokia 8850 I owned in 1999 and the original smallish iPhone), and then recent phones have (on average) grown again as the benefits of a larger screen area have been seen to outweigh the convenience of a smaller device. Also older phones tended to have batteries that lasted longer, mostly because neither the screen nor the processor were pulling much power. It's not just that the original iPhone was smaller than current ones (nor, for some of us, does the original iPhone count as an "early cellphone"). Am I alone in this interpretation? The description (at time of writing) didn't seem to cover that.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.121\|162.158.159.121]] 10:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
		+	: Yes, early cell phones were huge, like the size of a suitcase (hence they were usually kept in a car and called a "carphone.") At first much of this was having a larger battery before they had the modern sort of rechargeable electronics, and then it took time to gradually be able to shrink the other required electronics, but then they kept making them smaller, to the point where people would joke about how small they would be in the future (like in the movie Zoolander he had a phone that was like an inch in size). However once smartphones came along that had a large screen and were used for a lot of things other than actual phone calls (and text messaging), people wanted larger screens, so they started increasing in size again, just to be able to make the screen larger, and also the increased functionality increased the battery drain and they thus needed more space for a bigger battery. However, all the phones pictured in the comic are modern design smartphones with the whole phone surface being a touchscreen, so it's questionable to apply that idea to the comic.--[[Special:Contributions/172.69.68.88\|172.69.68.88]] 23:55, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

	The phone model shown doesn't look that much like a Samsung Galaxy. More like an iPhone. Oh, well. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 15:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)		The phone model shown doesn't look that much like a Samsung Galaxy. More like an iPhone. Oh, well. [[User:Nutster\|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster\|talk]]) 15:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

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	I hope we'll be able to procure a charger for our galaxy before it runs out. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.249\|141.101.105.249]] 15:52, 21 May 2022 (UTC)		I hope we'll be able to procure a charger for our galaxy before it runs out. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.105.249\|141.101.105.249]] 15:52, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
		+	:If it is sinking into a hellscape, it'll presumably require one of those cursed connecters. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.211\|172.70.90.211]] 09:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

	Isn't it just wonderful when your favorite comic strip teaches you something fundamental, important, and which you had no idea of prior to reading it. This is definitely one of XKCD's crowning glories (although, admittedly, not all that funny!). [[User:SteveBaker\|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker\|talk]]) 15:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)		Isn't it just wonderful when your favorite comic strip teaches you something fundamental, important, and which you had no idea of prior to reading it. This is definitely one of XKCD's crowning glories (although, admittedly, not all that funny!). [[User:SteveBaker\|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker\|talk]]) 15:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

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 ::Randall implies this was an analogy among people who knew the physical underpinnings well. But I agree that it, and the concept of mobile phones, are neither pleasant nor appropriate at all for the outer reaches of our universe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63|172.70.230.63]] 15:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 ::I’m wondering if Randall read this and the next one, Goofs, is a subtle jab at commenters here who don’t understand similes. He doesn’t say it works like that. He says it LOOKS like that. There’s nothing unpleasant about blood. I find my own to be dear to me. And to claim it’s “inappropriate”, well, let’s just say I’m not gonna gatekeep but if you think a simile someone else shared with Randall, possibly and likely someone with the credentials to back it up, is “inappropriate” because you think blood is icky, perhaps you would consider showing yourself out?
 ::Either way, whoever is on about “ as if the void beyond were hell” should remove that. Randall doesn’t imply anything about a void beyond (there isn’t one), nor hell (my body is full of blood but i lack any hell inside me).[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.198|162.158.107.198]] 20:41, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

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	:Pretty sure that was just a description of its appearance? --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.125\|172.70.210.125]] 10:18, 21 May 2022 (UTC)		:Pretty sure that was just a description of its appearance? --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.210.125\|172.70.210.125]] 10:18, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
	::Randall implies this was an analogy among people who knew the physical underpinnings well. But I agree that it, and the concept of mobile phones, are neither pleasant nor appropriate at all for the outer reaches of our universe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63\|172.70.230.63]] 15:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)		::Randall implies this was an analogy among people who knew the physical underpinnings well. But I agree that it, and the concept of mobile phones, are neither pleasant nor appropriate at all for the outer reaches of our universe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.63\|172.70.230.63]] 15:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
		+	::I’m wondering if Randall read this and the next one, Goofs, is a subtle jab at commenters here who don’t understand similes. He doesn’t say it works like that. He says it LOOKS like that. There’s nothing unpleasant about blood. I find my own to be dear to me. And to claim it’s “inappropriate”, well, let’s just say I’m not gonna gatekeep but if you think a simile someone else shared with Randall, possibly and likely someone with the credentials to back it up, is “inappropriate” because you think blood is icky, perhaps you would consider showing yourself out?
		+	::Either way, whoever is on about “ as if the void beyond were hell” should remove that. Randall doesn’t imply anything about a void beyond (there isn’t one), nor hell (my body is full of blood but i lack any hell inside me).[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.198\|162.158.107.198]] 20:41, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

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	I'm very confused as to why one would use the iPhone 1 as an example of a very old, but very memorable phone, rather than the Nokia 1100		I'm very confused as to why one would use the iPhone 1 as an example of a very old, but very memorable phone, rather than the Nokia 1100
	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.23.82\|162.158.23.82]] 15:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC) Tomas		[[Special:Contributions/162.158.23.82\|162.158.23.82]] 15:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC) Tomas
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		+	;Date of comic
		+	The day before this comic was released, NASA released a [https://newatlas.com/space/hubble-constant-most-precise-universe-expansion/ huge new report] that astronomers are calling Hubble’s magnum opus. Analyzing 30 years of data from the famous space telescope, the new study makes the most precise measurement yet of how fast the universe is expanding. [[User:WhiteDragon\|WhiteDragon]] ([[User talk:WhiteDragon\|talk]]) 18:42, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

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 [[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.124|162.158.107.124]] is repeatedly changing the comic title to "Arab Soyjak" and the image to a picture of Osama bin Laden, and being awfully rude in the edit summaries; also has a history of vandalism along with various associated IP addresses - however also having made actual contributions to the wiki, etc etc, I haven't checked other IP addresses that are associated; [[416: Zealous Autoconfig]] is one of the pages that are currently vandalised </ramble> <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> 02:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 :I have blocked the IP address. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 ; Red shifted objects...

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	...would not necessarily look red to the human eye. A light source that peaks in the ultraviolet or x-rays would turn blue when that objects light gets lowered into the visible spectrum. The real meaning of "red shift" is what happens to spectral lines. [[User:Algr\|Algr]] ([[User talk:Algr\|talk]]) 15:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)		...would not necessarily look red to the human eye. A light source that peaks in the ultraviolet or x-rays would turn blue when that objects light gets lowered into the visible spectrum. The real meaning of "red shift" is what happens to spectral lines. [[User:Algr\|Algr]] ([[User talk:Algr\|talk]]) 15:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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		+	I'm very confused as to why one would use the iPhone 1 as an example of a very old, but very memorable phone, rather than the Nokia 1100
		+	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.23.82\|162.158.23.82]] 15:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC) Tomas

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	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.124\|162.158.107.124]] is repeatedly changing the comic title to "Arab Soyjak" and the image to a picture of Osama bin Laden, and being awfully rude in the edit summaries; also has a history of vandalism along with various associated IP addresses - however also having made actual contributions to the wiki, etc etc, I haven't checked other IP addresses that are associated; [[416: Zealous Autoconfig]] is one of the pages that are currently vandalised </ramble> <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> 02:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.124\|162.158.107.124]] is repeatedly changing the comic title to "Arab Soyjak" and the image to a picture of Osama bin Laden, and being awfully rude in the edit summaries; also has a history of vandalism along with various associated IP addresses - however also having made actual contributions to the wiki, etc etc, I haven't checked other IP addresses that are associated; [[416: Zealous Autoconfig]] is one of the pages that are currently vandalised </ramble> <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> 02:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
	:I have blocked the IP address. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)		:I have blocked the IP address. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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		+	; Red shifted objects...
		+	...would not necessarily look red to the human eye. A light source that peaks in the ultraviolet or x-rays would turn blue when that objects light gets lowered into the visible spectrum. The real meaning of "red shift" is what happens to spectral lines. [[User:Algr\|Algr]] ([[User talk:Algr\|talk]]) 15:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

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	;Arab Soyjak and other site vandalism		;Arab Soyjak and other site vandalism
	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.124\|162.158.107.124]] is repeatedly changing the comic title to "Arab Soyjak" and the image to a picture of Osama bin Laden, and being awfully rude in the edit summaries; also has a history of vandalism along with various associated IP addresses - however also having made actual contributions to the wiki, etc etc, I haven't checked other IP addresses that are associated; [[416: Zealous Autoconfig]] is one of the pages that are currently vandalised </ramble> <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> 02:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/162.158.107.124\|162.158.107.124]] is repeatedly changing the comic title to "Arab Soyjak" and the image to a picture of Osama bin Laden, and being awfully rude in the edit summaries; also has a history of vandalism along with various associated IP addresses - however also having made actual contributions to the wiki, etc etc, I haven't checked other IP addresses that are associated; [[416: Zealous Autoconfig]] is one of the pages that are currently vandalised </ramble> <span style="font-family:serif">[[User:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#00BFFF">bubblegum</span>]]-[[User_talk:Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#BF7FFF">talk</span>]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Bubblegum\|<span style="color:#FF7FFF">contribs</span>]]</span> 02:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
		+	:I have blocked the IP address. --[[User:Kynde\|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde\|talk]]) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)