Talk:2771: College Knowledge - Revision history

172.71.242.133 at 10:09, 27 May 2023

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NiceGuy1 at 04:31, 27 May 2023

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GetPunnedOn at 22:21, 15 May 2023

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172.70.90.101 at 13:16, 15 May 2023

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GetPunnedOn at 23:35, 14 May 2023

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Whydidimakethis at 19:07, 9 May 2023

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Whydidimakethis: First comment I’ve made, sorry if i did it wrong

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First comment I’ve made, sorry if i did it wrong

172.70.86.153 at 12:14, 9 May 2023

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Yorkshire Pudding at 23:38, 8 May 2023

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162.158.158.139: pronunciation of ancient languages is figured out from rhymes - or so they say

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pronunciation of ancient languages is figured out from rhymes - or so they say

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 ::::Ah. There's the issue. Her first name is pronounced "marry" - like what you do at a wedding. Imagine someone called "Barry Fury". Her name rhymes with that. With that in mind then, try rhyming "more mercury" with "Barry Fury". Then try rhyming it with "Tim Berners-Lee".
 :::::Ummm, no? Ah, there's the issue, you think her name is pronounced as Mary. No, look at the french spelling - I think she WAS french, wasn't she? At the very least that her name is indeed having a french connection and pronunciation, in line with her last name. And the dozens of people I've heard pronounce it always use the french pronunciation, to rhyme with her last name. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 ::::"MERcury" is a better rhyme for "Berners-LEE", despite the syllable emphasis problem, than it is for "rie CURie". Rhythmically, "Berners-Lee" copes with being distorted into first-syllable emphasis ("BERners-lee") better than "...rie Curie" does. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 23:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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 :::Every time I've heard it, Marie Curie's names rhyme with each other, both ending in a "REE" sound. "cury" in Mercury is "cure-y". As such, Curie and Mercury rhyme so much, it's nearly the same sound (just slightly different on the U). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 ::::Ah. There's the issue. Her first name is pronounced "marry" - like what you do at a wedding. Imagine someone called "Barry Fury". Her name rhymes with that. With that in mind then, try rhyming "more mercury" with "Barry Fury". Then try rhyming it with "Tim Berners-Lee".
 ::::"MERcury" is a better rhyme for "Berners-LEE", despite the syllable emphasis problem, than it is for "rie CURie". Rhythmically, "Berners-Lee" copes with being distorted into first-syllable emphasis ("BERners-lee") better than "...rie Curie" does. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding|talk]]) 23:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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	:No HTML needed. All you need is the page title ("1202: Girls and Boys", ideally, although either the number or the words alone will redirect there) and mention it in double [[]]s, thusly <code><nowiki>...in the situation that [[1202: Girls and Boys]] previously described...</nowiki></code>. This gives you text of: ...in the situation that [[1202: Girls and Boys]] previously described... (But you'd use a better phrasing/context, I'm sure.)		:No HTML needed. All you need is the page title ("1202: Girls and Boys", ideally, although either the number or the words alone will redirect there) and mention it in double [[]]s, thusly <code><nowiki>...in the situation that [[1202: Girls and Boys]] previously described...</nowiki></code>. This gives you text of: ...in the situation that [[1202: Girls and Boys]] previously described... (But you'd use a better phrasing/context, I'm sure.)
	:There's more complex wikimarkups (with or without HTML tags) but that's the basic internal link format. Though I'm sure (haven't checked) 1202 ''has'' already been referenced in the main page for this comic. Someone can add it, if not, but I'm just helping you get your first step on the link-insertion road. For next time, maybe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.101\|172.70.90.101]] 13:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)		:There's more complex wikimarkups (with or without HTML tags) but that's the basic internal link format. Though I'm sure (haven't checked) 1202 ''has'' already been referenced in the main page for this comic. Someone can add it, if not, but I'm just helping you get your first step on the link-insertion road. For next time, maybe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.101\|172.70.90.101]] 13:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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	THIS IS A SEQUEL TO 1202 but i cant make the edit because i know no html :( [[User: GetPunnedOn\|GetPunnedOn]]		THIS IS A SEQUEL TO 1202 but i cant make the edit because i know no html :( [[User: GetPunnedOn\|GetPunnedOn]]
		+	:No HTML needed. All you need is the page title ("1202: Girls and Boys", ideally, although either the number or the words alone will redirect there) and mention it in double [[]]s, thusly <code><nowiki>...in the situation that [[1202: Girls and Boys]] previously described...</nowiki></code>. This gives you text of: ...in the situation that [[1202: Girls and Boys]] previously described... (But you'd use a better phrasing/context, I'm sure.)
		+	:There's more complex wikimarkups (with or without HTML tags) but that's the basic internal link format. Though I'm sure (haven't checked) 1202 ''has'' already been referenced in the main page for this comic. Someone can add it, if not, but I'm just helping you get your first step on the link-insertion road. For next time, maybe. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.101\|172.70.90.101]] 13:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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	Science Girl may just be more proficient in astronomy (being true to her 'name') than extemporised poetry, causing the activity to fizzle out, but we can't really tell if this is her first (or last!) invitation to participate in the schoolyard game. (Half inclined to add this to the Explanation, but quite a lot of unknown factors, so it won't add much to be so vague.) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.207\|172.71.178.207]] 14:46, 5 May 2023 (UTC)		Science Girl may just be more proficient in astronomy (being true to her 'name') than extemporised poetry, causing the activity to fizzle out, but we can't really tell if this is her first (or last!) invitation to participate in the schoolyard game. (Half inclined to add this to the Explanation, but quite a lot of unknown factors, so it won't add much to be so vague.) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.207\|172.71.178.207]] 14:46, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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		+	THIS IS A SEQUEL TO 1202 but i cant make the edit because i know no html :( [[User: GetPunnedOn\|GetPunnedOn]]

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 :I'm not sure that's correct, when I read this comic my head just used the "chewy kitten" pronunciation, and pronounced Triton shortly, like Tritin. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:22, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 ::Trit'n, rather, I'd say. Yup. Not being English-speak-native, the chronicles tell often on how I learned the language by reading - fantastic vocabulary, spelling, and grammar, rather messy pronunciation. Nowadays, I am working my way through Koyne Greek with the same method. Having learned my lesson (dubious - discuss), I strove to learn pronunciation from modern sources, that indicate that what they found regarding funny pronunciation for otherwise clear written text, they did by studying rhymes of the corresponding period. Much fun to be had [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.139|162.158.158.139]] 17:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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+:why are you chewing kittens [[User:Whydidimakethis|Whydidimakethis]] ([[User talk:Whydidimakethis|talk]]) 19:07, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 Rather than giving up because "their justifications for each visit become increasingly tenuous," I read the comic as indicating greater and greater complexity in scansion, which leads to increased difficulty in jumping rope, so the point where Ponytail is no longer able to meet the physical challenge, hence her giving up. I do feel like I'm missing something as to the ellipses and the meter in the 4th panel, though. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 12:36, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 :I think the ellipses are the chanter pausing to think of another heavenly body and what to rhyme it with. But usually the chants are already established and everyone says them in unison -- it's hard to do extemporaneous patter in unison. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 13:38, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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	::::"MERcury" is a better rhyme for "Berners-LEE", despite the syllable emphasis problem, than it is for "rie CURie". Rhythmically, "Berners-Lee" copes with being distorted into first-syllable emphasis ("BERners-lee") better than "...rie Curie" does. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 23:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)		::::"MERcury" is a better rhyme for "Berners-LEE", despite the syllable emphasis problem, than it is for "rie CURie". Rhythmically, "Berners-Lee" copes with being distorted into first-syllable emphasis ("BERners-lee") better than "...rie Curie" does. [[User:Yorkshire Pudding\|Yorkshire Pudding]] ([[User talk:Yorkshire Pudding\|talk]]) 23:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::::Now, I sort of tend to go for "Tim BERNers-Lee", as it happens. (In fact, imagine a placename of "Burnesleigh"(/-lea/-ley). One more inserted "-ez-" half syallable there than "Burnley", "Bingley" or "Barnsley" have, in terms you might appreciate from their (near-)Yorkshireness. In fact, I'd readily rhyme those three with his name. Slight fudge of the scansion, to accomodate the "ers", perhaps some vowel-shift (most adrift being the "a" in the latter). "Girls go to Burnley to meet Tim Bern<sub>ers</sub>-Lee" is a stretch, still, but probably more because (half-skipped extra element aside), it's more a repetition than a rhyme. Possibly a John Cooper-Clarke sort of rhyme (to name just one afficionado of the deliberately strained counter-culture/comedic form of poetry that this might sit in).
		+	:::::For "Mercury", I think the biggest problem is the disconsonance of the hard C vs the softer N. And Marie Curie fits that but falls down on the syllabic count and (as you point out) the 'high-A' of "marry" being adrift from the low-U ("murk"? "Murkle"? ...rhyme it with "work, you 'ree'"?)
		+	:::::Though this is from the perspective of the accent that is mine (and/or that is thine, maybe not that much different, though ''we'' might certainly notice, as sure as a thee-thar can distinguish themselves from a dee-dar!), and vowel-shifts are just one element of what Randall might envisage in his head, from his actual personal Pennsylvania/Virginia upbringing and how the schoolyard voices might easily accomodate this non-universal 'rhyme'. Imagine all kinds of other accents (e.g. a Kiwi!), and various modes of assonance and dissonance might well phase in and out, etc. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.153\|172.70.86.153]] 12:14, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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	Does the fact that Randall hates grapefruit have anything to do with the ending? Because pamplemousse can mean grapefruit		Does the fact that Randall hates grapefruit have anything to do with the ending? Because pamplemousse can mean grapefruit

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 :::As a DC area American, I pronounce them "Mir-cure-ree" and "Muh-ree cure-ree" which rhyme pretty okay [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.109|172.69.70.109]] 14:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Bumpf
 :::Every time I've heard it, Marie Curie's names rhyme with each other, both ending in a "REE" sound. "cury" in Mercury is "cure-y". As such, Curie and Mercury rhyme so much, it's nearly the same sound (just slightly different on the U). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 Does the fact that Randall hates grapefruit have anything to do with the ending? Because pamplemousse can mean grapefruit