Talk:2803: Geohydrotypography - Revision history

172.70.163.72 at 10:55, 26 February 2025

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172.71.155.35 at 03:15, 26 February 2025

2025-02-26T03:15:56Z

NiceGuy1 at 05:10, 12 August 2023

2023-08-12T05:10:11Z

172.70.162.204: I mis-edited my reply, made it say things different from intended. Rehashed.

2023-07-25T19:03:08Z

I mis-edited my reply, made it say things different from intended. Rehashed.

172.71.178.169 at 19:00, 25 July 2023

2023-07-25T19:00:22Z

162.158.38.19: Catching GPT errors is fun!

2023-07-25T17:00:33Z

Catching GPT errors is fun!

NiceGuy1 at 04:04, 22 July 2023

2023-07-22T04:04:05Z

172.70.127.65: b-b-but AI says

2023-07-20T18:49:07Z

b-b-but AI says

172.70.85.253 at 15:33, 20 July 2023

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172.70.90.183 at 15:32, 20 July 2023

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	alright but how long are the words [[Special:Contributions/172.71.155.35\|172.71.155.35]] 03:15, 26 February 2025 (UTC)		alright but how long are the words [[Special:Contributions/172.71.155.35\|172.71.155.35]] 03:15, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
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	Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch of real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)		Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch of real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	alright but how long are the words [[Special:Contributions/172.71.155.35\|172.71.155.35]] 03:15, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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	::(On the latter point, you replied close enough. Though could have use <code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>, giving (your version of) "[[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169\|172.71.178.169]]", rather than trying to manually write in the timestamp to try to emulate the <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, which gives the full signature aitomatically. I've put the full thing there, for you, and now here is my own... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169\|172.71.178.169]] 19:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)		::(On the latter point, you replied close enough. Though could have use <code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>, giving (your version of) "[[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169\|172.71.178.169]]", rather than trying to manually write in the timestamp to try to emulate the <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, which gives the full signature aitomatically. I've put the full thing there, for you, and now here is my own... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169\|172.71.178.169]] 19:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

−	Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch or real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)	+	Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch of real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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 :"So, each point of expansion would add about 10/12 = 0.833 words." Meaning that, in 12pt text, a word is smaller than a letter? I think the pile ([[1838: Machine Learning]]) may need a bit more stirring. (Comment by someone who's better at catching GPT errors than knowing how to comment here; sorry if I did it wrong.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.19|162.158.38.19]] 17:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
-::(On the latter point, you replied close enough. Though may have use <code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>, giving (your version of) "[[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169|172.71.178.169]]", rather than <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, which gives the full signature. I've put the full thing there, for you, and now here is my own... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169|172.71.178.169]] 19:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
+::(On the latter point, you replied close enough. Though could have use <code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>, giving (your version of) "[[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169|172.71.178.169]]", rather than trying to manually write in the timestamp to try to emulate the <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, which gives the full signature aitomatically. I've put the full thing there, for you, and now here is my own... ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.178.169|172.71.178.169]] 19:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch or real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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-:"So, each point of expansion would add about 10/12 = 0.833 words." Meaning that, in 12pt text, a word is smaller than a letter? I think the pile ([[1838: Machine Learning]]) may need a bit more stirring. (Comment by someone who's better at catching GPT errors than knowing how to comment here; sorry if I did it wrong.) 16:59, 25 July 2023
+:"So, each point of expansion would add about 10/12 = 0.833 words." Meaning that, in 12pt text, a word is smaller than a letter? I think the pile ([[1838: Machine Learning]]) may need a bit more stirring. (Comment by someone who's better at catching GPT errors than knowing how to comment here; sorry if I did it wrong.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.19|162.158.38.19]] 17:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch or real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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		+	:"So, each point of expansion would add about 10/12 = 0.833 words." Meaning that, in 12pt text, a word is smaller than a letter? I think the pile ([[1838: Machine Learning]]) may need a bit more stirring. (Comment by someone who's better at catching GPT errors than knowing how to comment here; sorry if I did it wrong.) 16:59, 25 July 2023

	Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch or real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)		Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch or real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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		+	Took me a BIT to get this. I thought he was describing the comic, the 30-whatever words written on a MAP view, that their room would expand by 100 words, took me a bit of time to realize he meant on the real ocean, one inch of text covering 1 inch or real ocean. THAT I can believe. :) [[User:NiceGuy1\|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1\|talk]]) 04:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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	::Since the width stays constant, we can ignore its size in area increase calculations. We also know the width of the Atlantic is huge compared with a 12pt word. ~ Megan <sup>she</sup>/<sub>her</sub> <sup>[[user talk:megan\|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[special:contribs/megan\|contribs]]</sub> 15:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)		::Since the width stays constant, we can ignore its size in area increase calculations. We also know the width of the Atlantic is huge compared with a 12pt word. ~ Megan <sup>she</sup>/<sub>her</sub> <sup>[[user talk:megan\|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[special:contribs/megan\|contribs]]</sub> 15:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
	:::Ummm... The point is that the width is ''not'' constant. It's increasing. But I thought you'd realised that the point was not the massive ''instantaneous'' width(s), as differently defined at different latitudes, 'merely' the imperceptible ''increase''s of width at all latitudes that sum together as being the space for the increasing number of words that would flow between these expanding margins. What we can ignore is how many actual words any actual full area will contain, we're looking at just the new words possible from just the new area (very very thin but very very tall) that's added. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.183\|172.70.90.183]] 15:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC)		:::Ummm... The point is that the width is ''not'' constant. It's increasing. But I thought you'd realised that the point was not the massive ''instantaneous'' width(s), as differently defined at different latitudes, 'merely' the imperceptible ''increase''s of width at all latitudes that sum together as being the space for the increasing number of words that would flow between these expanding margins. What we can ignore is how many actual words any actual full area will contain, we're looking at just the new words possible from just the new area (very very thin but very very tall) that's added. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.183\|172.70.90.183]] 15:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	For what it's worth, chatGPT4 says this. "The Atlantic Ocean is expanding at a rate of about 2.5 cm/year (or about 0.0000000794 miles/year) due to seafloor spreading along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
		+	Assuming this expansion is fairly evenly spread over the entire surface of the Atlantic Ocean, we can convert this to the equivalent in point size for the text, considering there are approximately 72 points to an inch, and one inch is approximately 2.54 cm.
		+	So, the expansion of the Atlantic Ocean in points per year would be approximately: 2.5 cm/year * (1 inch / 2.54 cm) * 72 points/inch ≈ 70.866 points/year
		+	For simplicity, let's assume each line of 12pt text is exactly 12pt high (though in reality it would be a bit more due to line spacing), and each line contains 10 words (as a rough average). So, each point of expansion would add about 10/12 = 0.833 words.
		+	Therefore, the expansion of the Atlantic Ocean in words per year due to seafloor spreading is approximately: 70.866 points/year * 0.833 words/point ≈ 59 words/year
		+	This is equivalent to: 59 words/year / (365.25 days/year * 24 hours/day * 60 minutes/minute * 60 seconds/second) ≈ 0.00000187 words/second
		+	So, with these assumptions and approximations, the expansion of the Atlantic Ocean due to plate tectonics might increase your word count by approximately 0.00000187 words per second.
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 :Well, it does if it approaches (<~2x?) the width of a single typical 12pt word. And further when it reduces down to demanding hyphens for the longest words. But, yes, such effects are so smeared out that there'd be a rare (non-zero) chance of re-wrapping making the rate increase go wild (and unusually static for a long while). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.181|172.70.162.181]] 08:14, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 ::Since the width stays constant, we can ignore its size in area increase calculations. We also know the width of the Atlantic is huge compared with a 12pt word. ~ Megan <sup>she</sup>/<sub>her</sub> <sup>[[user talk:megan|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[special:contribs/megan|contribs]]</sub> 15:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
-:::Ummm... The point is that the width is ''not'' constant. It's increasing. But I thought you'd realised that the point was not the massive ''instantaneous'' width(s), as differently defined at different latitudes, 'merely' the imperceptible ''increase''s of width at all latitudes that sum together as being the space for the increasing number of words that would flow between these expanding margins. What we can ignore is how many actual words any actual area will contain, we're looking at just the new words possible from just the new area (very very thin but very very tall) that's added. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.183|172.70.90.183]] 15:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
+:::Ummm... The point is that the width is ''not'' constant. It's increasing. But I thought you'd realised that the point was not the massive ''instantaneous'' width(s), as differently defined at different latitudes, 'merely' the imperceptible ''increase''s of width at all latitudes that sum together as being the space for the increasing number of words that would flow between these expanding margins. What we can ignore is how many actual words any actual full area will contain, we're looking at just the new words possible from just the new area (very very thin but very very tall) that's added. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.183|172.70.90.183]] 15:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

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	:Well, it does if it approaches (<~2x?) the width of a single typical 12pt word. And further when it reduces down to demanding hyphens for the longest words. But, yes, such effects are so smeared out that there'd be a rare (non-zero) chance of re-wrapping making the rate increase go wild (and unusually static for a long while). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.181\|172.70.162.181]] 08:14, 20 July 2023 (UTC)		:Well, it does if it approaches (<~2x?) the width of a single typical 12pt word. And further when it reduces down to demanding hyphens for the longest words. But, yes, such effects are so smeared out that there'd be a rare (non-zero) chance of re-wrapping making the rate increase go wild (and unusually static for a long while). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.181\|172.70.162.181]] 08:14, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
	::Since the width stays constant, we can ignore its size in area increase calculations. We also know the width of the Atlantic is huge compared with a 12pt word. ~ Megan <sup>she</sup>/<sub>her</sub> <sup>[[user talk:megan\|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[special:contribs/megan\|contribs]]</sub> 15:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)		::Since the width stays constant, we can ignore its size in area increase calculations. We also know the width of the Atlantic is huge compared with a 12pt word. ~ Megan <sup>she</sup>/<sub>her</sub> <sup>[[user talk:megan\|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[special:contribs/megan\|contribs]]</sub> 15:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::Ummm... The point is that the width is ''not'' constant. It's increasing. But I thought you'd realised that the point was not the massive ''instantaneous'' width(s), as differently defined at different latitudes, 'merely' the imperceptible ''increase''s of width at all latitudes that sum together as being the space for the increasing number of words that would flow between these expanding margins. What we can ignore is how many actual words any actual area will contain, we're looking at just the new words possible from just the new area (very very thin but very very tall) that's added. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.183\|172.70.90.183]] 15:32, 20 July 2023 (UTC)