Talk:2810: How to Coil a Cable - Revision history

PDesbeginner at 16:30, 1 January 2026

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Aronb at 20:26, 9 August 2023

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172.69.59.24: add comment

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172.71.223.77 at 10:47, 5 August 2023

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Mathmannix at 11:22, 4 August 2023

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172.70.86.125 at 11:12, 4 August 2023

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172.70.85.252 at 11:11, 4 August 2023

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172.71.242.191 at 11:10, 4 August 2023

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162.158.111.19: /* White Hat presents the well-coiled cable */ new section

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‎White Hat presents the well-coiled cable: new section

172.70.126.136 at 23:49, 3 August 2023

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	I think I need an "Explain Explain xkcd"... 😕 [[User:IMSoP\|IMSoP]] ([[User talk:IMSoP\|talk]]) 10:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)		I think I need an "Explain Explain xkcd"... 😕 [[User:IMSoP\|IMSoP]] ([[User talk:IMSoP\|talk]]) 10:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Maybe a version of each article that only uses the ten hundred most common words. [[User:PDesbeginner\|PDesbeginner]] ([[User talk:PDesbeginner\|talk]]) 16:30, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

	The idea of enlisting the help of an "expert" reminds me of how my father would always have the best charcoal barbecue at the picnic site. He would bring the charcoal and lighter to the picnic area and then walk around to see what everyone else's barbecue looked like. When he identified the best burning site, he would would walk over to the barbecue master and say to that person something like, "Excuse me, I really admire how your fire is burning, my kids are over there and I'm a little embarrassed that I don't really know how to do this. Could you show me how you got such a great fire?" The expert was always willing to build the fire for him. That's how, time after time, we always had a great burning barbecue.{{unsigned}}		The idea of enlisting the help of an "expert" reminds me of how my father would always have the best charcoal barbecue at the picnic site. He would bring the charcoal and lighter to the picnic area and then walk around to see what everyone else's barbecue looked like. When he identified the best burning site, he would would walk over to the barbecue master and say to that person something like, "Excuse me, I really admire how your fire is burning, my kids are over there and I'm a little embarrassed that I don't really know how to do this. Could you show me how you got such a great fire?" The expert was always willing to build the fire for him. That's how, time after time, we always had a great burning barbecue.{{unsigned}}

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	I feel like people missed the joke on this, which is the proper way to coil a cable is to say you need to buy a new cable due to kinks, and you will have multiple people tell you how you are coiling your cable wrong, while coiling it for you. Thus cable coiled. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.223.77\|172.71.223.77]]		I feel like people missed the joke on this, which is the proper way to coil a cable is to say you need to buy a new cable due to kinks, and you will have multiple people tell you how you are coiling your cable wrong, while coiling it for you. Thus cable coiled. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.223.77\|172.71.223.77]]
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		+	As an A/V technician, often in 'amateur'/volunteer environments, this seems to be somewhat of a rite of passage. Commonly, either 1) a new teammember will wrap a cable in such a way I would find improper to leave like that for the next person to find, or 2) a visitor is willing to help teardown. Either case results in 'the conversation' where the technician gives some instruction and guidance.
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	:Probably referencing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_theory Knot Theory]. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.97\|141.101.76.97]] 23:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)		:Probably referencing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_theory Knot Theory]. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.76.97\|141.101.76.97]] 23:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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		+	: I think the relevant mathematical concepts are curvature and torsion, which belong to differential geometry, not topology. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.59.24\|172.69.59.24]] 19:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

	As a sailor once explained to me, the AV method (over/under) can potentially form a clove hitch around one's ankle while on deck, hence their use of figure-8. Meanwhile, there's another technique espoused by the likes of 'Essential Craftsman' where you basically use a chain stitch to hold it all together. [[User:Nayhem\|Nayhem]] ([[User talk:Nayhem\|talk]]) 00:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)		As a sailor once explained to me, the AV method (over/under) can potentially form a clove hitch around one's ankle while on deck, hence their use of figure-8. Meanwhile, there's another technique espoused by the likes of 'Essential Craftsman' where you basically use a chain stitch to hold it all together. [[User:Nayhem\|Nayhem]] ([[User talk:Nayhem\|talk]]) 00:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

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	: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so. And the transcript doesn't present it as speech by White Hat.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)		: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so. And the transcript doesn't present it as speech by White Hat.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== Missed the joke ==
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		+	I feel like people missed the joke on this, which is the proper way to coil a cable is to say you need to buy a new cable due to kinks, and you will have multiple people tell you how you are coiling your cable wrong, while coiling it for you. Thus cable coiled. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.223.77\|172.71.223.77]]

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	My reading of the comic was different to what's currently in the explanation. I read it as Cueball has just uncoiled the cable ready for use, and is annoyed at all the kinks and tangles that have resulted from it having been coiled up. The others are then so keen to demonstrate how to do it better, that they end up coiling it all back up again, which doesn't actually help him in the slightest. Which seems funnier to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.190\|172.70.211.190]] 15:34, 3 August 2023 (UTC)		My reading of the comic was different to what's currently in the explanation. I read it as Cueball has just uncoiled the cable ready for use, and is annoyed at all the kinks and tangles that have resulted from it having been coiled up. The others are then so keen to demonstrate how to do it better, that they end up coiling it all back up again, which doesn't actually help him in the slightest. Which seems funnier to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.190\|172.70.211.190]] 15:34, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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		+	My reading of the comic is also different... With (or in spite of) all this dubious help, he just bought a shiny new cable in step 4! [[User:Mathmannix\|Mathmannix]] ([[User talk:Mathmannix\|talk]]) 11:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

	There is some controversy over "flake" vs "fake", see https://tradewindssailing.com/wordpress/?p=1343 for example. I learned "fake," the comic uses "flake." IDK.		There is some controversy over "flake" vs "fake", see https://tradewindssailing.com/wordpress/?p=1343 for example. I learned "fake," the comic uses "flake." IDK.

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	“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)		“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

−	: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so. ~~and~~ the transcript doesn't present it as speech by White Hat.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)	+	: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so. And the transcript doesn't present it as speech by White Hat.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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	“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)		“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

−	: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)	+	: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so. and the transcript doesn't present it as speech by White Hat.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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	“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)		“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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		+	: White Hat is still presenting it, even if he's not saying anything while doing so.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.191\|172.71.242.191]] 11:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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	See also https://people.maths.bris.ac.uk/~majge/hjce.06.pdf "Knotting probability of a shaken ball-chain" [[Special:Contributions/172.70.251.170\|172.70.251.170]] 10:08, 3 August 2023 (UTC)		See also https://people.maths.bris.ac.uk/~majge/hjce.06.pdf "Knotting probability of a shaken ball-chain" [[Special:Contributions/172.70.251.170\|172.70.251.170]] 10:08, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== White Hat presents the well-coiled cable ==
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		+	“Neatly coiled!” doesn’t look like a speech bubble, but more like an annotation bubble—it uses an arrow instead of a simple line. Thus it is not a “White Hat presents”, but the final step in this tutorial.--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.111.19\|162.158.111.19]] 08:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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	My reading of the comic was different to what's currently in the explanation. I read it as Cueball has just uncoiled the cable ready for use, and is annoyed at all the kinks and tangles that have resulted from it having been coiled up. The others are then so keen to demonstrate how to do it better, that they end up coiling it all back up again, which doesn't actually help him in the slightest. Which seems funnier to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.190\|172.70.211.190]] 15:34, 3 August 2023 (UTC)		My reading of the comic was different to what's currently in the explanation. I read it as Cueball has just uncoiled the cable ready for use, and is annoyed at all the kinks and tangles that have resulted from it having been coiled up. The others are then so keen to demonstrate how to do it better, that they end up coiling it all back up again, which doesn't actually help him in the slightest. Which seems funnier to me. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.211.190\|172.70.211.190]] 15:34, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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		+	There is some controversy over "flake" vs "fake", see https://tradewindssailing.com/wordpress/?p=1343 for example. I learned "fake," the comic uses "flake." IDK.

	== Methods explained ==		== Methods explained ==