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Hddqsb: The word "shadow"

2023-09-15T14:29:40Z

The word "shadow"

Inquirer: Any life detected by astronomy in a different stellar system is going to be "past life".

2023-09-14T20:32:30Z

Any life detected by astronomy in a different stellar system is going to be "past life".

172.71.242.221 at 05:10, 14 September 2023

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172.70.90.143 at 05:03, 14 September 2023

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Hkmaly at 22:37, 13 September 2023

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Hkmaly at 22:37, 13 September 2023

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172.70.85.187 at 18:39, 13 September 2023

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Rps: "spectrum" derived from "spectre" by Newton

2023-09-13T17:59:01Z

"spectrum" derived from "spectre" by Newton

Hddqsb at 15:43, 13 September 2023

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Rps: K2-18 b's atmosphere

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K2-18 b's atmosphere

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	This explanation fails to take into account that if life were discovered through astronomy (as opposed to interstellar travel) on a planet that what is discovered would be "in the past." Because of the distance which light travels from other other stellar systems to earth everything which is observed by astronomy is "in the past". Thus the statement "past life" is exactly what astronomers are seeking to detect. [[User:Inquirer\|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer\|talk]]) 20:32, 14 September 2023 (UTC)		This explanation fails to take into account that if life were discovered through astronomy (as opposed to interstellar travel) on a planet that what is discovered would be "in the past." Because of the distance which light travels from other other stellar systems to earth everything which is observed by astronomy is "in the past". Thus the statement "past life" is exactly what astronomers are seeking to detect. [[User:Inquirer\|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer\|talk]]) 20:32, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Hi [[User:ProphetZarquon\|ProphetZarquon]], regarding "shadow" ([[Special:Diff/323794\|Revision 323794]]), I didn't realise it had etymological connection, sorry for removing. I still think that the word "shadow" feels out of place if there is no explanation, but I think your edit summary would be great as part of the article. I couldn't find any reference for Latin "specter" meaning "shadow", do you have one? --[[User:Hddqsb\|Hddqsb]] ([[User talk:Hddqsb\|talk]]) 14:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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	::First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		::First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
	:::It always amuses me that I have to teach schoolchildren that Newton was a 'scientist', a word that didn't really exist in his lifetime. He considered himself a 'natural philosopher', which at the time was a posh way of saying 'wizard', as well as being an alchemist. 'Magic' wasn't taboo then, but was seen as an acceptable hobby for the idle rich. Interestingly, although modern chemistry arose out of alchemy (but isn't even nearly the same thing), the magical practice of natural philosophy still goes on today, completely unchanged except for its name... we call it 'physics' now. BTW, Newton decided that the 'spectrum' was composed of seven colours (and inserted 'indigo' to fudge the results accordingly) because 7 is the 'God-number' in Kabbalah.--[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.221\|172.71.242.221]] 05:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)		:::It always amuses me that I have to teach schoolchildren that Newton was a 'scientist', a word that didn't really exist in his lifetime. He considered himself a 'natural philosopher', which at the time was a posh way of saying 'wizard', as well as being an alchemist. 'Magic' wasn't taboo then, but was seen as an acceptable hobby for the idle rich. Interestingly, although modern chemistry arose out of alchemy (but isn't even nearly the same thing), the magical practice of natural philosophy still goes on today, completely unchanged except for its name... we call it 'physics' now. BTW, Newton decided that the 'spectrum' was composed of seven colours (and inserted 'indigo' to fudge the results accordingly) because 7 is the 'God-number' in Kabbalah.--[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.221\|172.71.242.221]] 05:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	This explanation fails to take into account that if life were discovered through astronomy (as opposed to interstellar travel) on a planet that what is discovered would be "in the past." Because of the distance which light travels from other other stellar systems to earth everything which is observed by astronomy is "in the past". Thus the statement "past life" is exactly what astronomers are seeking to detect. [[User:Inquirer\|Inquirer]] ([[User talk:Inquirer\|talk]]) 20:32, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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 :Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 ::First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
-::It always amuses me that I have to teach schoolchildren that Newton was a 'scientist', a word that didn't really exist in his lifetime. He considered himself a 'natural philosopher', which at the time was a posh way of saying 'wizard', as well as being an alchemist. 'Magic' wasn't taboo then, but was seen as an acceptable hobby for the idle rich. Interestingly, although modern chemistry arose out of alchemy (but isn't even nearly the same thing), the magical practice of natural philosophy still goes on today, completely unchanged except for its name... we call it 'physics' now.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.143|172.70.90.143]] 05:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
+:::It always amuses me that I have to teach schoolchildren that Newton was a 'scientist', a word that didn't really exist in his lifetime. He considered himself a 'natural philosopher', which at the time was a posh way of saying 'wizard', as well as being an alchemist. 'Magic' wasn't taboo then, but was seen as an acceptable hobby for the idle rich. Interestingly, although modern chemistry arose out of alchemy (but isn't even nearly the same thing), the magical practice of natural philosophy still goes on today, completely unchanged except for its name... we call it 'physics' now. BTW, Newton decided that the 'spectrum' was composed of seven colours (and inserted 'indigo' to fudge the results accordingly) because 7 is the 'God-number' in Kabbalah.--[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.221|172.71.242.221]] 05:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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	:Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187\|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		:Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187\|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
	::First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		::First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	::It always amuses me that I have to teach schoolchildren that Newton was a 'scientist', a word that didn't really exist in his lifetime. He considered himself a 'natural philosopher', which at the time was a posh way of saying 'wizard', as well as being an alchemist. 'Magic' wasn't taboo then, but was seen as an acceptable hobby for the idle rich. Interestingly, although modern chemistry arose out of alchemy (but isn't even nearly the same thing), the magical practice of natural philosophy still goes on today, completely unchanged except for its name... we call it 'physics' now.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.143\|172.70.90.143]] 05:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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 I am not finding a reference, but I think I read that Newton chose the word "spectrum" by analogy with the word "spectre" (which means ghost), since the rainbow colors were sort of "hiding" in the white light and were revealed by the prism. So it is not a coincidence that you can make puns like on this comic. [[User:Rps|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps|talk]]) 17:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 :Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
-:First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
+::First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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	I am not finding a reference, but I think I read that Newton chose the word "spectrum" by analogy with the word "spectre" (which means ghost), since the rainbow colors were sort of "hiding" in the white light and were revealed by the prism. So it is not a coincidence that you can make puns like on this comic. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 17:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		I am not finding a reference, but I think I read that Newton chose the word "spectrum" by analogy with the word "spectre" (which means ghost), since the rainbow colors were sort of "hiding" in the white light and were revealed by the prism. So it is not a coincidence that you can make puns like on this comic. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 17:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
	:Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187\|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		:Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187\|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	:First, in Newton's time, those stuff wasn't weird. Second, what do you mean by "almost"? -- [[User:Hkmaly\|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly\|talk]]) 22:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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	I am not finding a reference, but I think I read that Newton chose the word "spectrum" by analogy with the word "spectre" (which means ghost), since the rainbow colors were sort of "hiding" in the white light and were revealed by the prism. So it is not a coincidence that you can make puns like on this comic. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 17:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		I am not finding a reference, but I think I read that Newton chose the word "spectrum" by analogy with the word "spectre" (which means ghost), since the rainbow colors were sort of "hiding" in the white light and were revealed by the prism. So it is not a coincidence that you can make puns like on this comic. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 17:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Well, it seems to be at least co-conceived as a description of an (after)image of some original source, but it doesn't easily get explained as to whether it went from the latin root (to look at/view) straight ''via'' the 'ghostly' spectre and on unto the split-rainbow thing. (Except Newton did believe invsome seriously weird stuff, back when science was a bit looser and chemistry was almost alchemy, so... maybe!) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.187\|172.70.85.187]] 18:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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	Probably, related to the recent Webb discovery of interesting gases in K2-18 b's atmosphere: https://www.nasa.gov/goddard/2023/webb-discovers-methane-carbon-dioxide-in-atmosphere-of-k2-18b [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])		Probably, related to the recent Webb discovery of interesting gases in K2-18 b's atmosphere: https://www.nasa.gov/goddard/2023/webb-discovers-methane-carbon-dioxide-in-atmosphere-of-k2-18b [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]])
	: Added! (Saw your comment after my edit). --[[User:Hddqsb\|Hddqsb]] ([[User talk:Hddqsb\|talk]]) 15:43, 13 September 2023 (UTC)		: Added! (Saw your comment after my edit). --[[User:Hddqsb\|Hddqsb]] ([[User talk:Hddqsb\|talk]]) 15:43, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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		+	I am not finding a reference, but I think I read that Newton chose the word "spectrum" by analogy with the word "spectre" (which means ghost), since the rainbow colors were sort of "hiding" in the white light and were revealed by the prism. So it is not a coincidence that you can make puns like on this comic. [[User:Rps\|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps\|talk]]) 17:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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-Probably, related to the recent Webb discovery of interesting gases in K2-18 b's atmosphere: https://www.nasa.gov/goddard/2023/webb-discovers-methane-carbon-dioxide-in-atmosphere-of-k2-18b
+Probably, related to the recent Webb discovery of interesting gases in K2-18 b's atmosphere: https://www.nasa.gov/goddard/2023/webb-discovers-methane-carbon-dioxide-in-atmosphere-of-k2-18b [[User:Rps|Rps]] ([[User talk:Rps|talk]])
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+: Added! (Saw your comment after my edit). --[[User:Hddqsb|Hddqsb]] ([[User talk:Hddqsb|talk]]) 15:43, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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		+	Probably, related to the recent Webb discovery of interesting gases in K2-18 b's atmosphere: https://www.nasa.gov/goddard/2023/webb-discovers-methane-carbon-dioxide-in-atmosphere-of-k2-18b
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