Talk:2887: Minnesota - Revision history

《プロキシ》: random comment about colorful stage

2025-08-27T19:13:07Z

random comment about colorful stage

82.132.244.158 at 17:01, 27 August 2025

2025-08-27T17:01:14Z

Tr0gd0r: Not sure the page explains the strip

2025-08-27T15:14:49Z

Not sure the page explains the strip

162.158.154.207: Citation greatly appreciated...

2024-05-28T23:16:40Z

Citation greatly appreciated...

172.70.91.12 at 14:44, 29 February 2024

2024-02-29T14:44:10Z

Laser813 at 16:25, 31 January 2024

2024-01-31T16:25:36Z

172.70.85.46 at 09:18, 31 January 2024

2024-01-31T09:18:54Z

Penguin Zero at 02:56, 31 January 2024

2024-01-31T02:56:13Z

Davidhbrown: What's with Alabama?

2024-01-30T16:35:28Z

What's with Alabama?

172.70.86.68: Forgot to sign. Still me, though.

2024-01-30T15:02:16Z

Forgot to sign. Still me, though.

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	:But it seems that there's also some flexing going on (at the continental level) that it sounds like is making the 'flat' distance between points change. This might involve uncrinkling the land sat to the north of the northern border, to add to the shoving 'underneath' the south-border line.		:But it seems that there's also some flexing going on (at the continental level) that it sounds like is making the 'flat' distance between points change. This might involve uncrinkling the land sat to the north of the northern border, to add to the shoving 'underneath' the south-border line.
	:How much change every little bit adds to the overall shift (or 'no shift',cdepe ding upon your chosen frame of reference), on the actual ground, would be a matter of calculation and then combination. Cueball's source of information (which is not necessarily entirely accurate, in-universe, all we know is that it convinces him...) seems to have done this and given the drift which can either be taken as the southern border moving north towards the 'feature-fixed' northern one or else the northern border moving south towards the 'coordinate-fixed' southern one. And maybe some crinkling/uncrinkling of the landscape, too. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.244.158\|82.132.244.158]] 17:01, 27 August 2025 (UTC)		:How much change every little bit adds to the overall shift (or 'no shift',cdepe ding upon your chosen frame of reference), on the actual ground, would be a matter of calculation and then combination. Cueball's source of information (which is not necessarily entirely accurate, in-universe, all we know is that it convinces him...) seems to have done this and given the drift which can either be taken as the southern border moving north towards the 'feature-fixed' northern one or else the northern border moving south towards the 'coordinate-fixed' southern one. And maybe some crinkling/uncrinkling of the landscape, too. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.244.158\|82.132.244.158]] 17:01, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
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		+	I think I might have Cueball’s mentality except instead of Minnesota it’s HATSUNE MIKU: COLORFUL STAGE [[User:《プロキシ》\|《プロキシ》(XKCD addict)]] ([[User talk:《プロキシ》\|talk]]) 19:13, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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−	I'm actually still confused as to how post-glacial crust rebound could make Minnesota smaller! Per Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound), post-glacial crust rebound is when a (heavy) glacier melts, and the rock layers of the ground below it spring back up. But... how would that make Minnesota smaller? (Asking, 'cuz I live in Minnesota.) -tr0gd0r	+	I'm actually still confused as to how post-glacial crust rebound could make Minnesota smaller! Per Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound), post-glacial crust rebound is when a (heavy) glacier melts, and the rock layers of the ground below it spring back up. But... how would that make Minnesota smaller? (Asking, 'cuz I live in Minnesota.) -tr0gd0r {{unsigned\|Tr0gd0r\|15:14, 27 August 2025}}
		+	:The land on which Minnesota sits is flexing. This flexing changes at what precise latitude the northern boundary lies, through a combination of how the 'flat' ground curvew round the Earth's geoid-like shape, perhaps some actual lateral movement (from the way the land around it is shifting) and possibly some slight alterations of the 'horizontal' making lakes and watercourses (loints on the shores of which define some of the boundaries) 'tip up' slightly to slightly inundate one side and similarly lower on the other (which, unless it has a vertical lip, shifts the water's edge up onto one bank and down away from the old bank on the other side).
		+	:The southern border is said to be defined ''just'' to an absolute latitude, regardless of the land, meaning that any adjustment on the north edge, even if just by 'sliding' features going south, is not compensated for by a similar sliding at the south end (think of it as a penny-drop arcade machine, the edge of the land moves at the front but the back of the ledge is hard-defined by the 'wall' at the back of the machine that the ledge is moving into, making less 'shelf space' during that phase, albeit that's physical and not a measured line appearing to move, relative to the land).
		+	:But it seems that there's also some flexing going on (at the continental level) that it sounds like is making the 'flat' distance between points change. This might involve uncrinkling the land sat to the north of the northern border, to add to the shoving 'underneath' the south-border line.
		+	:How much change every little bit adds to the overall shift (or 'no shift',cdepe ding upon your chosen frame of reference), on the actual ground, would be a matter of calculation and then combination. Cueball's source of information (which is not necessarily entirely accurate, in-universe, all we know is that it convinces him...) seems to have done this and given the drift which can either be taken as the southern border moving north towards the 'feature-fixed' northern one or else the northern border moving south towards the 'coordinate-fixed' southern one. And maybe some crinkling/uncrinkling of the landscape, too. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.244.158\|82.132.244.158]] 17:01, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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	I literally lol'ed at "citation greatly appreciated". that said I assume actual citing of examples of erotic literature would NOT be appreciated by site mods.		I literally lol'ed at "citation greatly appreciated". that said I assume actual citing of examples of erotic literature would NOT be appreciated by site mods.
	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.207\|162.158.154.207]] 23:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.207\|162.158.154.207]] 23:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I'm actually still confused as to how post-glacial crust rebound could make Minnesota smaller! Per Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound), post-glacial crust rebound is when a (heavy) glacier melts, and the rock layers of the ground below it spring back up. But... how would that make Minnesota smaller? (Asking, 'cuz I live in Minnesota.) -tr0gd0r

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	The National Geodetic Survey asked him to stop using the word "supple" so often, which means they are ok with him using it from time to time. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.12\|172.70.91.12]] 14:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)		The National Geodetic Survey asked him to stop using the word "supple" so often, which means they are ok with him using it from time to time. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.12\|172.70.91.12]] 14:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
		+	I literally lol'ed at "citation greatly appreciated". that said I assume actual citing of examples of erotic literature would NOT be appreciated by site mods.
		+	[[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.207\|162.158.154.207]] 23:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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	"All meetings should be about Minnesota until we resolve this" reminds me of something, maybe another XKCD. Maybe the "but someone is wrong on the Internet!" one. There's a infrequent theme of nerd-sniping or very specific issues hijacking normal business. Anyone remember this? [[User:Laser813\|Laser813]] ([[User talk:Laser813\|talk]]) 16:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)		"All meetings should be about Minnesota until we resolve this" reminds me of something, maybe another XKCD. Maybe the "but someone is wrong on the Internet!" one. There's a infrequent theme of nerd-sniping or very specific issues hijacking normal business. Anyone remember this? [[User:Laser813\|Laser813]] ([[User talk:Laser813\|talk]]) 16:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	The National Geodetic Survey asked him to stop using the word "supple" so often, which means they are ok with him using it from time to time. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.12\|172.70.91.12]] 14:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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	at 43° 30' N, which wouldn't be affected by rebound - in fact, it's plausible that the rebound would be pulling parts of Iowa into Minnesota. I don't think this marks any errors in the comic (which only states that that the northern border is moving towards the southern, not vice-versa), but some of the commentary may need to be tweaked or elaborated on. --[[User:Penguin Zero\|Penguin Zero]] ([[User talk:Penguin Zero\|talk]]) 02:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)		at 43° 30' N, which wouldn't be affected by rebound - in fact, it's plausible that the rebound would be pulling parts of Iowa into Minnesota. I don't think this marks any errors in the comic (which only states that that the northern border is moving towards the southern, not vice-versa), but some of the commentary may need to be tweaked or elaborated on. --[[User:Penguin Zero\|Penguin Zero]] ([[User talk:Penguin Zero\|talk]]) 02:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
	:The image in the second panel clearly implies that the southern border is moving northwards as well.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.46\|172.70.85.46]] 09:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)		:The image in the second panel clearly implies that the southern border is moving northwards as well.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.46\|172.70.85.46]] 09:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	"All meetings should be about Minnesota until we resolve this" reminds me of something, maybe another XKCD. Maybe the "but someone is wrong on the Internet!" one. There's a infrequent theme of nerd-sniping or very specific issues hijacking normal business. Anyone remember this? [[User:Laser813\|Laser813]] ([[User talk:Laser813\|talk]]) 16:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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	I think some more detail on the borders of Minnesota as legally defined would be useful, but I'm not sure I have the complete picture. As far as I've been able to research, the northern border (with Canada) is in part defined by geographical features, such as Lake of the Woods, so the rebound would be affecting it, but I'm not sure to what degree. The southern border (with Iowa), on the other hand, is defined as a line		I think some more detail on the borders of Minnesota as legally defined would be useful, but I'm not sure I have the complete picture. As far as I've been able to research, the northern border (with Canada) is in part defined by geographical features, such as Lake of the Woods, so the rebound would be affecting it, but I'm not sure to what degree. The southern border (with Iowa), on the other hand, is defined as a line
	at 43° 30' N, which wouldn't be affected by rebound - in fact, it's plausible that the rebound would be pulling parts of Iowa into Minnesota. I don't think this marks any errors in the comic (which only states that that the northern border is moving towards the southern, not vice-versa), but some of the commentary may need to be tweaked or elaborated on. --[[User:Penguin Zero\|Penguin Zero]] ([[User talk:Penguin Zero\|talk]]) 02:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)		at 43° 30' N, which wouldn't be affected by rebound - in fact, it's plausible that the rebound would be pulling parts of Iowa into Minnesota. I don't think this marks any errors in the comic (which only states that that the northern border is moving towards the southern, not vice-versa), but some of the commentary may need to be tweaked or elaborated on. --[[User:Penguin Zero\|Penguin Zero]] ([[User talk:Penguin Zero\|talk]]) 02:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
		+	:The image in the second panel clearly implies that the southern border is moving northwards as well.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.46\|172.70.85.46]] 09:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Problem with comics like this is that I've now gone from not knowing the word "geodetic" at all to wondering why Alabama is the only one of the 48 contiguous states without [https://geodesy.noaa.gov/SPCS/images/spcs83-legislation-feet.png state plane coordinate system legislation from 1983]. [[User:Davidhbrown\|Davidhbrown]] ([[User talk:Davidhbrown\|talk]]) 16:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)		Problem with comics like this is that I've now gone from not knowing the word "geodetic" at all to wondering why Alabama is the only one of the 48 contiguous states without [https://geodesy.noaa.gov/SPCS/images/spcs83-legislation-feet.png state plane coordinate system legislation from 1983]. [[User:Davidhbrown\|Davidhbrown]] ([[User talk:Davidhbrown\|talk]]) 16:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I think some more detail on the borders of Minnesota as legally defined would be useful, but I'm not sure I have the complete picture. As far as I've been able to research, the northern border (with Canada) is in part defined by geographical features, such as Lake of the Woods, so the rebound would be affecting it, but I'm not sure to what degree. The southern border (with Iowa), on the other hand, is defined as a line
		+	at 43° 30' N, which wouldn't be affected by rebound - in fact, it's plausible that the rebound would be pulling parts of Iowa into Minnesota. I don't think this marks any errors in the comic (which only states that that the northern border is moving towards the southern, not vice-versa), but some of the commentary may need to be tweaked or elaborated on. --[[User:Penguin Zero\|Penguin Zero]] ([[User talk:Penguin Zero\|talk]]) 02:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Probably unrelated, but I've seen several 'scare' articles over the weekend that say the Moon is 'shrivelling', due to its core cooling. Tend to say something like that it has shrunk by 330ft (without indicating over what time period, or relating that distance to the much larger general diameter such that it makes this not exactly a visible difference if you were to stare at any given bit of surface). The 'scare' is that it'll make it impossible to settle the Moon (due to selenological settling, ironically), especially at its (probably valuable) South Pole. Apart from it not being new info (LRO provided "the Moon has been shrinking 150ft over hundreds of millions of years" data, last decade; and that could even be the exact same thing, only quoted as a rough radius change instead of a roughish diameter one), there's also various ways of adding resiliance to reasonable surface changes (e.g. the current Halley Research Base used by the British Antarctic Survey) if you need to. Obviously the recent topical interest in landings (current and nearish-future) could have brought it up as a bit of 'current' news. ''Maybe'' it then filtered through to inspire the comic's premise (after searching for a sort-of-equivalent Earthly effect that was even more ripe for absurdist humour)... Likely not, but still thought it worth a mention, as a footnote. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.68\|172.70.86.68]] 15:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)		Probably unrelated, but I've seen several 'scare' articles over the weekend that say the Moon is 'shrivelling', due to its core cooling. Tend to say something like that it has shrunk by 330ft (without indicating over what time period, or relating that distance to the much larger general diameter such that it makes this not exactly a visible difference if you were to stare at any given bit of surface). The 'scare' is that it'll make it impossible to settle the Moon (due to selenological settling, ironically), especially at its (probably valuable) South Pole. Apart from it not being new info (LRO provided "the Moon has been shrinking 150ft over hundreds of millions of years" data, last decade; and that could even be the exact same thing, only quoted as a rough radius change instead of a roughish diameter one), there's also various ways of adding resiliance to reasonable surface changes (e.g. the current Halley Research Base used by the British Antarctic Survey) if you need to. Obviously the recent topical interest in landings (current and nearish-future) could have brought it up as a bit of 'current' news. ''Maybe'' it then filtered through to inspire the comic's premise (after searching for a sort-of-equivalent Earthly effect that was even more ripe for absurdist humour)... Likely not, but still thought it worth a mention, as a footnote. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.68\|172.70.86.68]] 15:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Problem with comics like this is that I've now gone from not knowing the word "geodetic" at all to wondering why Alabama is the only one of the 48 contiguous states without [https://geodesy.noaa.gov/SPCS/images/spcs83-legislation-feet.png state plane coordinate system legislation from 1983]. [[User:Davidhbrown\|Davidhbrown]] ([[User talk:Davidhbrown\|talk]]) 16:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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	::Not to be pedantic (or, to be self-pedantic, maybe this ''was'' indeed pedantry), but rhubarb is surely the square ''stalk'' of pie. Or you're eating it wrongly. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.137\|172.70.90.137]] 10:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)		::Not to be pedantic (or, to be self-pedantic, maybe this ''was'' indeed pedantry), but rhubarb is surely the square ''stalk'' of pie. Or you're eating it wrongly. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.137\|172.70.90.137]] 10:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

−	Probably unrelated, but I've seen several 'scare' articles over the weekend that say the Moon is 'shrivelling', due to its core cooling. Tend to say something like that it has shrunk by 330ft (without indicating over what time period, or relating that distance to the much larger general diameter such that it makes this not exactly a visible difference if you were to stare at any given bit of surface). The 'scare' is that it'll make it impossible to settle the Moon (due to selenological settling, ironically), especially at its (probably valuable) South Pole. Apart from it not being new info (LRO provided "the Moon has been shrinking 150ft over hundreds of millions of years" data, last decade; and that could even be the exact same thing, only quoted as a rough radius change instead of a roughish diameter one), there's also various ways of adding resiliance to reasonable surface changes (e.g. the current Halley Research Base used by the British Antarctic Survey) if you need to. Obviously the recent topical interest in landings (current and nearish-future) could have brought it up as a bit of 'current' news. ''Maybe'' it then filtered through to inspire the comic's premise (after searching for a sort-of-equivalent Earthly effect that was even more ripe for absurdist humour)... Likely not, but still thought it worth a mention, as a footnote.	+	Probably unrelated, but I've seen several 'scare' articles over the weekend that say the Moon is 'shrivelling', due to its core cooling. Tend to say something like that it has shrunk by 330ft (without indicating over what time period, or relating that distance to the much larger general diameter such that it makes this not exactly a visible difference if you were to stare at any given bit of surface). The 'scare' is that it'll make it impossible to settle the Moon (due to selenological settling, ironically), especially at its (probably valuable) South Pole. Apart from it not being new info (LRO provided "the Moon has been shrinking 150ft over hundreds of millions of years" data, last decade; and that could even be the exact same thing, only quoted as a rough radius change instead of a roughish diameter one), there's also various ways of adding resiliance to reasonable surface changes (e.g. the current Halley Research Base used by the British Antarctic Survey) if you need to. Obviously the recent topical interest in landings (current and nearish-future) could have brought it up as a bit of 'current' news. ''Maybe'' it then filtered through to inspire the comic's premise (after searching for a sort-of-equivalent Earthly effect that was even more ripe for absurdist humour)... Likely not, but still thought it worth a mention, as a footnote. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.86.68\|172.70.86.68]] 15:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)