Talk:2902: Ice Core - Revision history

172.71.241.41 at 08:41, 24 April 2025

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172.70.255.32 at 22:42, 23 April 2025

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These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For: Comics crossover.

2024-03-12T01:24:06Z

Comics crossover.

Sapin: explanation should mention the reference to Claude Lorius

2024-03-06T21:51:01Z

explanation should mention the reference to Claude Lorius

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172.69.150.94 at 13:59, 5 March 2024

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162.158.155.53: I think I have answered my own question

2024-03-05T12:00:02Z

I think I have answered my own question

172.70.230.169: just a question about the volcano

2024-03-05T11:57:26Z

just a question about the volcano

Mathmannix: Ending pun confusing

2024-03-05T11:54:18Z

Ending pun confusing

PRR at 05:23, 5 March 2024

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 Tau is tortuosity in a lot of equations involving porous material (including ice), and also represents time in some engineering disciplines.  It's written as "Ice_τ", and I have no idea what the oddly specific underscore is.  Maybe it's "I x c x e" from some equation that involves τ?   And somehow could be relevant to a sunken island? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.152|172.69.58.152]] 00:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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 :It could be the case that the underscore before the tau is indicating a subscript and that, as you said, the "Ice" could be "I * c * e_τ" but I have no way of being sure. (Quick aside: I originally read the "I x c x e" expression as though it were "Ixcxe" and took it for a word or an acronym or something. Humanity really needs to agree on a universal form of multiplication sign for typing.)[[User:OmniDoom|OmniDoom]] ([[User talk:OmniDoom|talk]]) 00:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Tau is tortuosity in a lot of equations involving porous material (including ice), and also represents time in some engineering disciplines. It's written as "Ice_τ", and I have no idea what the oddly specific underscore is. Maybe it's "I x c x e" from some equation that involves τ? And somehow could be relevant to a sunken island? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.152\|172.69.58.152]] 00:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		Tau is tortuosity in a lot of equations involving porous material (including ice), and also represents time in some engineering disciplines. It's written as "Ice_τ", and I have no idea what the oddly specific underscore is. Maybe it's "I x c x e" from some equation that involves τ? And somehow could be relevant to a sunken island? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.58.152\|172.69.58.152]] 00:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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	:It could be the case that the underscore before the tau is indicating a subscript and that, as you said, the "Ice" could be "I * c * e_τ" but I have no way of being sure. (Quick aside: I originally read the "I x c x e" expression as though it were "Ixcxe" and took it for a word or an acronym or something. Humanity really needs to agree on a universal form of multiplication sign for typing.)[[User:OmniDoom\|OmniDoom]] ([[User talk:OmniDoom\|talk]]) 00:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		:It could be the case that the underscore before the tau is indicating a subscript and that, as you said, the "Ice" could be "I * c * e_τ" but I have no way of being sure. (Quick aside: I originally read the "I x c x e" expression as though it were "Ixcxe" and took it for a word or an acronym or something. Humanity really needs to agree on a universal form of multiplication sign for typing.)[[User:OmniDoom\|OmniDoom]] ([[User talk:OmniDoom\|talk]]) 00:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	I think this is a clear reference to the weel known anecdote in the paleoclimatologist community. Claude Lorius was drinking a glass of Whisky on an Antarctic base when he noticed that air bubles trapped in the ice could provide key information on fomer climatic conditions. After a quick search, here is a reference citing this anecdote [https://images.cnrs.fr/en/archives/claude-lorius-memories-ice]. [[User:Sapin\|Sapin]] ([[User talk:Sapin\|talk]]) 21:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)		I think this is a clear reference to the weel known anecdote in the paleoclimatologist community. Claude Lorius was drinking a glass of Whisky on an Antarctic base when he noticed that air bubles trapped in the ice could provide key information on fomer climatic conditions. After a quick search, here is a reference citing this anecdote [https://images.cnrs.fr/en/archives/claude-lorius-memories-ice]. [[User:Sapin\|Sapin]] ([[User talk:Sapin\|talk]]) 21:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	It would not surprise me if Rat from 'Pearls Before Swine" was on his way over with a baseball bat to have a "word" with Randal about puns. [[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For\|talk]]) 01:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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	About the _τ, some times programs (like Desmos) use underscores to portray subscripts, which may be the intent here --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.155\|172.70.230.155]] 19:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)		About the _τ, some times programs (like Desmos) use underscores to portray subscripts, which may be the intent here --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.155\|172.70.230.155]] 19:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I think this is a clear reference to the weel known anecdote in the paleoclimatologist community. Claude Lorius was drinking a glass of Whisky on an Antarctic base when he noticed that air bubles trapped in the ice could provide key information on fomer climatic conditions. After a quick search, here is a reference citing this anecdote [https://images.cnrs.fr/en/archives/claude-lorius-memories-ice]. [[User:Sapin\|Sapin]] ([[User talk:Sapin\|talk]]) 21:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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	An aside: Though I don't know if it was intentional on Randall's part, there is an additional pun to Ice_τ: In German 'Tau' is not just the Greek letter, but also the word for 'melt' - which does fit the comic's theme. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.150.94\|172.69.150.94]] 13:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		An aside: Though I don't know if it was intentional on Randall's part, there is an additional pun to Ice_τ: In German 'Tau' is not just the Greek letter, but also the word for 'melt' - which does fit the comic's theme. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.150.94\|172.69.150.94]] 13:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	About the _τ, some times programs (like Desmos) use underscores to portray subscripts, which may be the intent here --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.155\|172.70.230.155]] 19:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Has a volcano ever destroyed an island?		Has a volcano ever destroyed an island?
	The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (Indonesian: Letusan Krakatau 1883) in the Sunda Strait occurred from 20 May until 21 October 1883, peaking in the late morning hours of 27 August when over 70% of the island of Krakatoa and its surrounding archipelago were destroyed as it collapsed into a caldera. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.53\|162.158.155.53]] 12:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (Indonesian: Letusan Krakatau 1883) in the Sunda Strait occurred from 20 May until 21 October 1883, peaking in the late morning hours of 27 August when over 70% of the island of Krakatoa and its surrounding archipelago were destroyed as it collapsed into a caldera. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.53\|162.158.155.53]] 12:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	An aside: Though I don't know if it was intentional on Randall's part, there is an additional pun to Ice_τ: In German 'Tau' is not just the Greek letter, but also the word for 'melt' - which does fit the comic's theme. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.150.94\|172.69.150.94]] 13:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Can anyone identify the specific geological event Randall refers to? When did a Volcano destroy a tea plant producing island? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.169\|172.70.230.169]] 11:57, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		Can anyone identify the specific geological event Randall refers to? When did a Volcano destroy a tea plant producing island? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.169\|172.70.230.169]] 11:57, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	I think I have answered my own question... This is the google search results:
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		+	Has a volcano ever destroyed an island?
		+	The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (Indonesian: Letusan Krakatau 1883) in the Sunda Strait occurred from 20 May until 21 October 1883, peaking in the late morning hours of 27 August when over 70% of the island of Krakatoa and its surrounding archipelago were destroyed as it collapsed into a caldera. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.155.53\|162.158.155.53]] 12:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	While the ending pun on the name of actor/rapper "Ice Cube" is funny (as would be a more elaborate pun also involving Ice-T), I think it detracts from the explanation, actually making things more confusing. [[User:Mathmannix\|Mathmannix]] ([[User talk:Mathmannix\|talk]]) 11:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		While the ending pun on the name of actor/rapper "Ice Cube" is funny (as would be a more elaborate pun also involving Ice-T), I think it detracts from the explanation, actually making things more confusing. [[User:Mathmannix\|Mathmannix]] ([[User talk:Mathmannix\|talk]]) 11:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	Can anyone identify the specific geological event Randall refers to? When did a Volcano destroy a tea plant producing island? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.230.169\|172.70.230.169]] 11:57, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	" '''ice (usually sourced locally)'''.[''citation needed'']"		" '''ice (usually sourced locally)'''.[''citation needed'']"
	Up until just about a hundred years ago, most ice in the eastern US came from Maine. In winter the Mainers sawed-up the ponds, stored ice in sawdust-filled ice-houses, then in summer shipped it as far south as Cuba. --[[User:PRR\|PRR]] ([[User talk:PRR\|talk]]) 05:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		Up until just about a hundred years ago, most ice in the eastern US came from Maine. In winter the Mainers sawed-up the ponds, stored ice in sawdust-filled ice-houses, then in summer shipped it as far south as Cuba. --[[User:PRR\|PRR]] ([[User talk:PRR\|talk]]) 05:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	While the ending pun on the name of actor/rapper "Ice Cube" is funny (as would be a more elaborate pun also involving Ice-T), I think it detracts from the explanation, actually making things more confusing. [[User:Mathmannix\|Mathmannix]] ([[User talk:Mathmannix\|talk]]) 11:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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	Is it really possible to date ice layers to specific years? I assume dating precision is millenia, maybe at best centuries. The explanation should mention how impossible it is to date to a specific birth year, unless there happened to be a specific climatologic event that year (like a big eruption). [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 02:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		Is it really possible to date ice layers to specific years? I assume dating precision is millenia, maybe at best centuries. The explanation should mention how impossible it is to date to a specific birth year, unless there happened to be a specific climatologic event that year (like a big eruption). [[User:Barmar\|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar\|talk]]) 02:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
	:If compressed (centuries or more of snow atop), it might be more difficult, but this is going to be maybe a handful of decades of layers. Depending upon the local buildup method (still snows a bit during the long (ant)arctic night, then (ant)arctic day gentle crisps the surface snow), it might be fairly obvious under visual inspection. Even without key marker deposits from atmospheric dust/soot/etc. But would depend upon both weather and climate patterns. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.242\|172.69.194.242]] 04:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)		:If compressed (centuries or more of snow atop), it might be more difficult, but this is going to be maybe a handful of decades of layers. Depending upon the local buildup method (still snows a bit during the long (ant)arctic night, then (ant)arctic day gentle crisps the surface snow), it might be fairly obvious under visual inspection. Even without key marker deposits from atmospheric dust/soot/etc. But would depend upon both weather and climate patterns. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.242\|172.69.194.242]] 04:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	" '''ice (usually sourced locally)'''.[''citation needed'']"
		+	Up until just about a hundred years ago, most ice in the eastern US came from Maine. In winter the Mainers sawed-up the ponds, stored ice in sawdust-filled ice-houses, then in summer shipped it as far south as Cuba. --[[User:PRR\|PRR]] ([[User talk:PRR\|talk]]) 05:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)