Talk:2933: Elementary Physics Paths - Revision history

82.132.239.130: Making header into pseudo-header formatting. (In response to apparent wish to TOC the article, which is not advisable anyway.)

2026-03-30T03:31:51Z

Making header into pseudo-header formatting. (In response to apparent wish to TOC the article, which is not advisable anyway.)

PDesbeginner: /* New Category: Syllogism? */ new section

2024-06-21T01:33:25Z

‎New Category: Syllogism?: new section

Psychoticpotato at 23:07, 20 May 2024

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141.101.99.192 at 20:36, 20 May 2024

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ProphetZarquon: Explain Schrödinger

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Explain Schrödinger

ProphetZarquon: AI usage is common & helpful, here; overwriting existing explanations is the problematic thing.

2024-05-20T15:57:26Z

AI usage is common & helpful, here; overwriting existing explanations is the problematic thing.

172.69.194.10 at 12:00, 20 May 2024

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162.158.129.35 at 09:02, 20 May 2024

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172.71.178.60 at 08:05, 20 May 2024

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172.70.162.17 at 08:04, 20 May 2024

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 :Well, it is, but I think it's just legitimate ASCII-art version of the comic arrow (with the ">" appended), so probably not intended to be wikimarkup-like. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.10|172.69.194.10]] 12:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
-== New Category: Syllogism? ==
+;New Category: Syllogism?
 Perhaps we should create a new category for comics that include or reference syllogism, like this one and [[1570: Engineer Syllogism]]. [[User:PDesbeginner|PDesbeginner]] ([[User talk:PDesbeginner|talk]]) 01:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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	I'm surprised no one has mentioned that <nowiki>==COSMOLOGY==</nowiki> is wiki syntax for a section title...--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.129.35\|162.158.129.35]] 09:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)		I'm surprised no one has mentioned that <nowiki>==COSMOLOGY==</nowiki> is wiki syntax for a section title...--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.129.35\|162.158.129.35]] 09:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
	:Well, it is, but I think it's just legitimate ASCII-art version of the comic arrow (with the ">" appended), so probably not intended to be wikimarkup-like. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.10\|172.69.194.10]] 12:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)		:Well, it is, but I think it's just legitimate ASCII-art version of the comic arrow (with the ">" appended), so probably not intended to be wikimarkup-like. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.10\|172.69.194.10]] 12:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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		+	== New Category: Syllogism? ==
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		+	Perhaps we should create a new category for comics that include or reference syllogism, like this one and [[1570: Engineer Syllogism]]. [[User:PDesbeginner\|PDesbeginner]] ([[User talk:PDesbeginner\|talk]]) 01:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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 ::Let me have my first "first" moment, man. [[User:Psychoticpotato|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato|talk]]) 12:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 :::Could this be the last first? Or just the first of the last firsts. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 14:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 I assume the cosmology comment from the alt text is related to the speculative nature of dark matter and dark energy, but I am too ignorant of of cosmology to know if there is something more specific being referenced.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.23.203|172.69.23.203]] 22:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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 :::When I refer to 'AI', I use the term "automation" because it is more properly defined. The transcipt bot is just one of the automation tools used to fill in these explanations. If you look closely at the edit histories, you'll see that 'AI' is used quite frequently, to provide near-instant synopsis of the humorous contradictions present in these comics. The error was not in using AI for an ''initial'' explanation; the error was in overwriting a human-made explanation with a hasty automated one.
 :::[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 :I was reading it, and as 172.68.23.215 said, it looks like Kyrodes put in multiple overriding edits which directly erased the original explaination in lieu of a ChatGPT version (analysis courtesy of gptzero). I'd personally prefer there being more human-made stuff here, and some of the writing isn't exactly coherent... But this isn't up to me to decide, eh? [[User:Eelitee|Eelitee]] ([[User talk:Eelitee|talk]]) 21:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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 ::Specifically, he used the cat in a box analogy to show why we can (with an ever-increasing confidence) say that the Copenhagen interpretation is baloney. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 16:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 :::Shut up and explain.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.17|172.70.162.17]] 08:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 It feels like Randall has gone down the same Wikipedia rabbit hole that I have (spurred on by another comic). The universe is full of extremely weird things on every level. Even the Copenhagen Interpretation of QM isn't actually one interpretation. Everyone has different ideas because it's all so weird. I remember my physics teacher telling me about the time before QM was discovered when it seemed like we had figured out most of physics and now it seems like we barely know anything. [[User:Brycemw|Brycemw]] ([[User talk:Brycemw|talk]]) 13:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 17:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 ::I believe the point was that 'AI' was used (with or without generous human tweaking to the input to the 'algorithm' and/or post-output selectivity and editing), and this is different from the 'automation' of TheusafBOT/etc which is just a fairly limited (and entirely hand-crafted) "poll, scrape, limited-parse and post" process. As well as going the 'lazy' way of disregarding (or excessively diluting) the initial work in favour of a (mostly?) uncritical adoption of what a hallucination-vulnerable black box process spews out after being trained to just "make something that ''look like'' what a human might write" without every any hope of applying true understanding to the process. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.191|162.158.38.191]] 18:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 :I was reading it, and as 172.68.23.215 said, it looks like Kyrodes put in multiple overriding edits which directly erased the original explaination in lieu of a ChatGPT version (analysis courtesy of gptzero). I'd personally prefer there being more human-made stuff here, and some of the writing isn't exactly coherent... But this isn't up to me to decide, eh? [[User:Eelitee|Eelitee]] ([[User talk:Eelitee|talk]]) 21:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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 Cause and effect don't exist. Even 100% correlation does not have to equal causation. If we combine this theory with Murphy's law and Schrodinger's cat, the universe is destroyed an infinite number of times. Once because every went wrong with the cat in the box but that cataclysm was not caused by the cat it only correlated it so there is no cause for the destruction therefore the universe is destroyed again and again by violating causality by being destroyed in the first place. {{unsigned ip|172.71.30.29|03:04, 19 May 2024}}
-I'm surprised no one has mentioned that <nowiki>==COSMOLOGY==</nowiki> is wiki syntax for a section title...
+I'm surprised no one has mentioned that <nowiki>==COSMOLOGY==</nowiki> is wiki syntax for a section title...--[[Special:Contributions/162.158.129.35|162.158.129.35]] 09:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
---[[Special:Contributions/162.158.129.35|162.158.129.35]] 09:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
+:Well, it is, but I think it's just legitimate ASCII-art version of the comic arrow (with the ">" appended), so probably not intended to be wikimarkup-like. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.10|172.69.194.10]] 12:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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	Cause and effect don't exist. Even 100% correlation does not have to equal causation. If we combine this theory with Murphy's law and Schrodinger's cat, the universe is destroyed an infinite number of times. Once because every went wrong with the cat in the box but that cataclysm was not caused by the cat it only correlated it so there is no cause for the destruction therefore the universe is destroyed again and again by violating causality by being destroyed in the first place. {{unsigned ip\|172.71.30.29\|03:04, 19 May 2024}}		Cause and effect don't exist. Even 100% correlation does not have to equal causation. If we combine this theory with Murphy's law and Schrodinger's cat, the universe is destroyed an infinite number of times. Once because every went wrong with the cat in the box but that cataclysm was not caused by the cat it only correlated it so there is no cause for the destruction therefore the universe is destroyed again and again by violating causality by being destroyed in the first place. {{unsigned ip\|172.71.30.29\|03:04, 19 May 2024}}
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		+	I'm surprised no one has mentioned that <nowiki>==COSMOLOGY==</nowiki> is wiki syntax for a section title...
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 :[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 17:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 ::I believe the point was that 'AI' was used (with or without generous human tweaking to the input to the 'algorithm' and/or post-output selectivity and editing), and this is different from the 'automation' of TheusafBOT/etc which is just a fairly limited (and entirely hand-crafted) "poll, scrape, limited-parse and post" process. As well as going the 'lazy' way of disregarding (or excessively diluting) the initial work in favour of a (mostly?) uncritical adoption of what a hallucination-vulnerable black box process spews out after being trained to just "make something that ''look like'' what a human might write" without every any hope of applying true understanding to the process. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.38.191|162.158.38.191]] 18:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 According to the Copenhagen Interpretation, it's not determined whether a physicist studies Condensed Matter or Quantum Field Theory until we open his box. [[User:Doctorhook|Doctorhook]] ([[User talk:Doctorhook|talk]]) 02:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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 It seems like there should be a third branch for chemistry, leading to biology.  Just putting a bunch of atoms together gives a bunch of new, unrelated properties in the new molecules compared to their constituent atoms.  When you look at organic chemistry, especially the self-perpetuating version (life), then the level of complexity is ''huge''. {unsigned|Nutster|16:04, 17 May 2024}}
 Yesterday I was trying to read a journal article that was trying to model the way water moves through a soil column and has some of its impurities removed.  They were using a system of 12 simultaneous partial differential equations, had dramatically run out of letters for naming variables, constants, and functions, and were nesting equations three deep to try to make the PDEs readable.  And this was AFTER they made a large number of simplifying assumptions.  To top it off, the results aren't even perfectly accurate for already highly purified water running through a column in a super controlled environment.  Reality is complicated, y'all.[[Special:Contributions/172.68.2.100|172.68.2.100]] 14:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)